Originally Posted by Loreebee:
Just make sure whatever bread you choose, it does not have hydrogentated oils, any thing partially hydroginated or trans fats.

We used to get what we thought was a good clean bread at the grocery store, but you know? There ARE none without that crap in it!

Yep, hydrogenated oils, high fructose corn syrup, all that junk.

I found one today I'm going to try - the Sara Lee 100% whole wheat with honey. No hydrogenated oils or corn syrup, 5 grams of fiber per 2 slices and only 90 calories (per 2 slices).

We'll see how that one goes.

As far as my pita bread, I picked more up today but I bought the white this time, dammit!

lol

We do get Orowheat in the US, at least the western part! I like whole wheat bread myself, but my DH won't eat it. I don't care for the ww tortillas at all, so I just eat less of them. Pasta I get the blended stuff mostly. I agree with whoever it was, moderation is the key! And avoiding the high sugar/trans-fat stuff. If you have a bread maker, or are ambitious enough to make your own bread you could start with mixing ww and white flour and move to more and more whole wheat.

Originally Posted by WaterRat:
We do get Orowheat in the US, at least the western part! I like whole wheat bread myself, but my DH won't eat it. I don't care for the ww tortillas at all, so I just eat less of them. Pasta I get the blended stuff mostly. I agree with whoever it was, moderation is the key! And avoiding the high sugar/trans-fat stuff. If you have a bread maker, or are ambitious enough to make your own bread you could start with mixing ww and white flour and move to more and more whole wheat.

I love homemade bread. Unfortunately I don't have the energy for that, lol.

Another point on white bread - it's not much higher on the GI scale than wheat.

A little clip from a nutritional website about breads:

Most nutrition experts advise eating a diet rich in whole grains, vegetables and fruit. But if you look at foods such as whole wheat bread compared to white bread, they are both high glycemic foods.

Eating whole grains and fiber doesn't ensure a low GI, nor does it keep you from getting hungry. The research out there shows that foods high in fiber promote weight loss, NOT the fiber itself. Foods high in fiber also tend to be bulky foods that have lower calorie densities.

I agree that wheat breads made from whole grains are much much better for you than white. More fiber, more vitamins and minerals, more nutritionally complete. But white bread, contrary to popular belief, is not an evil food. Again, as with any food, moderation is the key.

You could always try eating sourdough bread, it is lower on the GI scale than regular white bread.

Actually, that Sara Lee 100% Whole Wheat w/ Honey is really good and I like it.

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions :goodvibes

I haven't been able to move to wheat bread yet, but I eat oatmeal bread. It has a little fiber in it anyway, and I buy the low cal stuff...

As for pasta, we've been really happy with the new Barilla "Plus" line of pasta (in the yellow box). It's not a wheat pasta, but made from things like chick pea flour. It is not however, cheap (around here, like 1.69/box!) -- I figure we eat a lot less than we used to, so it's worth it for us.

Here are the stats per 56 g (2 oz):

Calories 200
Calories From Fat 9
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 1g
Saturated Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 25mg
Total Carbohydrate 38g
Dietary Fiber 4g
Sugars 1g

Protein 10g

Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 2% Iron 10%

Originally Posted by wyllenn:
As for pasta, we've been really happy with the new Barilla "Plus" line of pasta (in the yellow box). It's not a wheat pasta, but made from things like chick pea flour.

I just bought some of this earlier in the week, but I haven't tried it yet (I've been trying first to clear leftovers and things from the fridge!

I'm glad that you like it, I was excited when I saw it.

I haven't seen the Barilla Plus, but Barilla is usually the brand I buy. I also buy wheat pasta, the Ronzoni brand.

You know, white bread is made out of wheat so I guess you won't be having any bread...you could learn to like wheat. I love it's nutty flavor. White bread has not taste and is just like eating a pillow for me. But if that is your only vice and you are only have one or two servings a day, get more fiber somewhere else. My bread has 5 gram of fiber per serving so I don't have to eat a peck of broccoli (the thing I hate)!

Originally Posted by QuilterInVA:
You know, white bread is made out of wheat

Well, all bread is made out of wheat. But the wheat used for white breads is refined, removing the hull of the wheat, which in turn removes the fibrous content.

For example, if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour.

Wheat bread is just too spongey to me. Like this Sara Lee I just bought. It's okay tastewise. It's just a tad sweet from the honey. But dammit, it still has that spongey texture and it grosses me out. I'm forcing myself to eat it, but I'm not having any fun here.

lol

if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour

I DID NOT KNOW THIS !!!....Thank you for the information

Originally Posted by okie74:
if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour

I DID NOT KNOW THIS !!!....Thank you for the information

You're welcome :)

I always read the ingredients. Make sure it says "whole" in there somewhere. Whole wheat flour, whole grain flour, etc.

WHOLE is the key ;)

I was raised on dark rye bread lol the good finnish kind with like 10g fiber per slice.:dizzy: But I like white bread too, actually I like them all except ww tortillas and plain white sandwhich bread.
But if you only like white bread then eat it, you're not going overboard with it anyway.

Originally Posted by LLV:
Thanks for the suggestions and comments, they're much appreciated. I'll look for the Sara Lee bread, but I've never heard of Orowheat. I'm in the United States, it's possible we don't have that here.

As for the "white" equalling poor health, I don't believe any one food group or 'type' of food can cause your health to be poor unless it's the only thing you eat. If you eat healthy 99% of the time and then one day eat a piece of white bread or a bowl of white rice, it's certainly not going to kill you. Some people stay away from the 'white' stuff for their own personal reasons and I think that's great, that's their choice. Never eating white rice again certainly isn't going to cause you to die at an early age, lol. But I personally feel that 'white' foods got a really bad rap (thanks to people like Oprah and Dr. Atkins) that wasn't deserved. Not as harsh as they made it sound, anyway. They're got people brainwashed so badly that they feel they're literally contaminated if they eat pasta.

That's ridiculous.

Now, people with diabetes need to watch those food because of the spikes in blood sugar. My mother had diabetes and I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant. That's definitely the exception. But I don't think 'white' foods hurt, as long as they're eaten in moderation. Nobody is saying you have to chow down on pasta all day long.

Balance is the key ;)

Orowheat is definitely to be found in the United States, as I live in Arizona.

I guess I hold the opposite view from you: I don't find it "ridiculous" to be concerned with the effects of high glycemic carbohydrates, such as white bread, white rice, white flour, in my diet. :) I don't think these are healthy for anyone and they certainly don't contribute anything positive to my weight management program or my health.

If you wish to eat white bread and feel it doesn't harm you, then enjoy. :)