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LLV 12-04-2005 10:07 AM

I just can't do the wheat bread thing
 
I've tried. But I can't do it. I just don't like wheat breads. It's the texture that bothers me. I tried switching everything 'bready' I ate to wheat; I went from white pitas to whole wheat pitas, from flour tortillas to whole wheat flour, and regular bread as well. But sorry, I have to go back to white. I know you shouldn't eat too much of the 'white' breads, but that's just too bad, I can't hack this wheat crap any longer.

There, I said it, I got it off my chest, lol!

I eat healthy 99% of the time, I guess white breads will just have to be my downfall.:halfempty

Yogini 12-04-2005 10:12 AM

Well, just be sure you get in your fiber elsewhere ;)

I am the opposit...I can't eat white breads...I imagine that it's just like paste or glue clogging up my insides and providing empty calories with little nutritional benefit :o Must be all the research, studying and indoctrination into whole-foods eating...it's like I've been hypnotised into believing that "white"= poor health :D

ambabs 12-04-2005 10:13 AM

I know it's tough. It took me a while to get used to it and I still can't switch my pastas. I know it's not the best solution but have you checked out sara lee's whole grain white bread? I'm not sure how it is nutritionally I just remember seeing a commercial for it.

lucky_me 12-04-2005 10:25 AM

I hate the wheat bread too... I have been getting the Sara Lee Heart Healthy- it's 100% whole wheat and it actually tastes really good and doesn't have those weird crunchy things in there. :)

Loreebee 12-04-2005 11:52 AM

No one in my family can stand anything BUT pure wholegrain breads.

Even the kids. They have been raised on it, and find the white breads well...tasteless, LOL!

It's probably something you can get used to over time, but start slowly. Go for the soft wheat breads, then to the 100% whole wheat, then the whole grain breads.

LLV 12-04-2005 04:49 PM

Believe me, I've tried them all. The only one I really really like is the Baker's Inn Honey Whole Wheat. At least that one is made with whole grains. And it's really good. I just prefer white breads.

I'm not sure I've had that Sara Lee one yet, though. Thanks, maybe I'll check that out :)

LovesBassets 12-04-2005 05:12 PM

I can sympathize :^: . Aside from giving up my 4 cans of Coke a day, switching over to whole wheat was the hardest thing I had to do. I just suffered through and eventually you get used to it. I can handle it on a tuna sandwich now, but I can't deal with it as toast. So I gave up toast :dizzy: .

I wish I had some advice. Sorry :dizzy: .

LLV 12-04-2005 05:24 PM

Well, what's weird is I used to eat all whole wheat products. But I don't know what happened, I just started getting sick of them, like I burned myself out on them or something. Like last night I made myself a sandwich out of my whole wheat pitas. And I'm telling you, I couldn't finish it. I ate about half and got up and threw the rest of it away.

Now I *do* like my whole wheat tortillas. But I still prefer the white ones.

I started my new lifestyle in June of last year. I went at least a year without touching any white breads at all. Then one day I went bananas. A loaf of white Italian bread sat on the counter and I grabbed it, tore it open, and stood there stuffing it into my mouth, lol! My husband came into the kitchen and saw me and asked me what I was doing and I was like, "White bread! I gotta have white bread!"

He just chuckled at me and said, "Okay, I'll stay out of your way, then."

okie74 12-04-2005 05:45 PM

may I suggest the new Sara Lee whole grain white...it's sooooo good and soft

GeorgiePorgie 12-04-2005 06:05 PM

I used to think that whole wheat bread wasn't good for anything but sanding boat hulls. But...I tried Arnold Health Nut bread and it is pretty tasty! It has little chunks of grains and nuts in it. Give it a try. You might be pleasantly surprised! :)

Amarantha2 12-04-2005 06:41 PM

Orowheat makes a pretty good whole wheat English muffin that you might like. :)

That said, I'd point out that a lot of the "100 percent whole wheat" breads that are now glutting the market are listing "high fructose corn syrup" and other questionable ingredients on the label; these, in my opinion, make these breads worse for you than just going ahead and eating a small amount of old-fashioned white bread. So, there's really no need to feel that just because a product is made from whole wheat it's healthy.

The real reason for choosing whole grain bread over white is that the white can cause a spike in blood glucose because the fiber's been stripped from the grain. Some of us believe that "spike" is harmful and contributes to weight gain and health problems. But it seems to me (not a doctor or anything) that if blood sugar really isn't an issue for you, you could just eat the bread of your choice and as Yogini said, get your fiber somewhere else.

It'd also blunt the "starch" effect (the spike) if you ate the fiber at the same time you ate the white bread, at least that's my opinion, and ate some protein and fat with the bread also.

From time to time, I slip up on this no white thing also and then it takes me weeks to get back on track because the "whites" are addictive for me. I know I feel much, much, much better when I only stick to whole grain products ... but I won't eat that stuff with all the high density fructose.

LLV 12-05-2005 07:56 AM

Thanks for the suggestions and comments, they're much appreciated. I'll look for the Sara Lee bread, but I've never heard of Orowheat. I'm in the United States, it's possible we don't have that here.

As for the "white" equalling poor health, I don't believe any one food group or 'type' of food can cause your health to be poor unless it's the only thing you eat. If you eat healthy 99% of the time and then one day eat a piece of white bread or a bowl of white rice, it's certainly not going to kill you. Some people stay away from the 'white' stuff for their own personal reasons and I think that's great, that's their choice. Never eating white rice again certainly isn't going to cause you to die at an early age, lol. But I personally feel that 'white' foods got a really bad rap (thanks to people like Oprah and Dr. Atkins) that wasn't deserved. Not as harsh as they made it sound, anyway. They're got people brainwashed so badly that they feel they're literally contaminated if they eat pasta.

That's ridiculous.

Now, people with diabetes need to watch those food because of the spikes in blood sugar. My mother had diabetes and I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant. That's definitely the exception. But I don't think 'white' foods hurt, as long as they're eaten in moderation. Nobody is saying you have to chow down on pasta all day long.

Balance is the key ;)

featherz 12-05-2005 09:22 AM

I'm the opposite as well. Even when I was overweight you wouldn't catch me near white bread - to me it's like 'filler fluff' without any taste. The crunchier the better with my breads! We buy nothing but Ezekiel bread now - my husband, a certified junk food addict, won't eat anything else. I guess for some people it's just an acquired taste. Have to say that if I didn't like the whole grain bread I'd probably just skip bread altogether rather than eat wonder bread (UGH!).. :)

PhysDom 12-05-2005 11:54 AM

YOu know what?
Good for you!!

Everyone talks about how this shouldn't be a 'diet' it should be a new way for us to eat for the rest of our lives... so I feel that admitting that WW products are not sustainable for you is a huge accomplishment!

Now that you've recognized this, you can plan the white bread/etc. into whatever plan you're doing.

If you feel like introducing some wheat back later, you can. You can also try other whole- or multi-grain foodss (maybe rye bread, or oatmeal bread) and not feel tied down to the 'wheat.'

I think that this is a good step for you, not a problem at all. Now... moderation. *smile*

Loreebee 12-05-2005 11:59 AM

Just make sure whatever bread you choose, it does not have hydrogentated oils, any thing partially hydroginated or trans fats.

We used to get what we thought was a good clean bread at the grocery store, but you know? There ARE none without that crap in it! So, we get our bread at Wild Oats.

LLV 12-05-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loreebee
Just make sure whatever bread you choose, it does not have hydrogentated oils, any thing partially hydroginated or trans fats.

We used to get what we thought was a good clean bread at the grocery store, but you know? There ARE none without that crap in it!

Yep, hydrogenated oils, high fructose corn syrup, all that junk.

I found one today I'm going to try - the Sara Lee 100% whole wheat with honey. No hydrogenated oils or corn syrup, 5 grams of fiber per 2 slices and only 90 calories (per 2 slices).

We'll see how that one goes.

As far as my pita bread, I picked more up today but I bought the white this time, dammit!

lol

WaterRat 12-05-2005 03:14 PM

We do get Orowheat in the US, at least the western part! I like whole wheat bread myself, but my DH won't eat it. I don't care for the ww tortillas at all, so I just eat less of them. Pasta I get the blended stuff mostly. I agree with whoever it was, moderation is the key! And avoiding the high sugar/trans-fat stuff. If you have a bread maker, or are ambitious enough to make your own bread you could start with mixing ww and white flour and move to more and more whole wheat.

LLV 12-05-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterRat
We do get Orowheat in the US, at least the western part! I like whole wheat bread myself, but my DH won't eat it. I don't care for the ww tortillas at all, so I just eat less of them. Pasta I get the blended stuff mostly. I agree with whoever it was, moderation is the key! And avoiding the high sugar/trans-fat stuff. If you have a bread maker, or are ambitious enough to make your own bread you could start with mixing ww and white flour and move to more and more whole wheat.

I love homemade bread. Unfortunately I don't have the energy for that, lol.

LLV 12-06-2005 05:20 PM

Another point on white bread - it's not much higher on the GI scale than wheat.

A little clip from a nutritional website about breads:

Most nutrition experts advise eating a diet rich in whole grains, vegetables and fruit. But if you look at foods such as whole wheat bread compared to white bread, they are both high glycemic foods.

Eating whole grains and fiber doesn't ensure a low GI, nor does it keep you from getting hungry. The research out there shows that foods high in fiber promote weight loss, NOT the fiber itself. Foods high in fiber also tend to be bulky foods that have lower calorie densities.


I agree that wheat breads made from whole grains are much much better for you than white. More fiber, more vitamins and minerals, more nutritionally complete. But white bread, contrary to popular belief, is not an evil food. Again, as with any food, moderation is the key.

Goose2 12-07-2005 03:00 PM

You could always try eating sourdough bread, it is lower on the GI scale than regular white bread.

LLV 12-07-2005 10:03 PM

Actually, that Sara Lee 100% Whole Wheat w/ Honey is really good and I like it.

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions :goodvibes

Heather 12-07-2005 11:29 PM

I haven't been able to move to wheat bread yet, but I eat oatmeal bread. It has a little fiber in it anyway, and I buy the low cal stuff...

As for pasta, we've been really happy with the new Barilla "Plus" line of pasta (in the yellow box). It's not a wheat pasta, but made from things like chick pea flour. It is not however, cheap (around here, like 1.69/box!) -- I figure we eat a lot less than we used to, so it's worth it for us.

Here are the stats per 56 g (2 oz):

Calories 200
Calories From Fat 9
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 1g
Saturated Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 25mg
Total Carbohydrate 38g
Dietary Fiber 4g
Sugars 1g

Protein 10g

Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 2% Iron 10%

PhysDom 12-08-2005 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyllenn
As for pasta, we've been really happy with the new Barilla "Plus" line of pasta (in the yellow box). It's not a wheat pasta, but made from things like chick pea flour.

I just bought some of this earlier in the week, but I haven't tried it yet (I've been trying first to clear leftovers and things from the fridge!

I'm glad that you like it, I was excited when I saw it.

LLV 12-08-2005 09:38 AM

I haven't seen the Barilla Plus, but Barilla is usually the brand I buy. I also buy wheat pasta, the Ronzoni brand.

QuilterInVA 12-08-2005 02:34 PM

You know, white bread is made out of wheat so I guess you won't be having any bread...you could learn to like wheat. I love it's nutty flavor. White bread has not taste and is just like eating a pillow for me. But if that is your only vice and you are only have one or two servings a day, get more fiber somewhere else. My bread has 5 gram of fiber per serving so I don't have to eat a peck of broccoli (the thing I hate)!

LLV 12-08-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuilterInVA
You know, white bread is made out of wheat

Well, all bread is made out of wheat. But the wheat used for white breads is refined, removing the hull of the wheat, which in turn removes the fibrous content.

For example, if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour.

Wheat bread is just too spongey to me. Like this Sara Lee I just bought. It's okay tastewise. It's just a tad sweet from the honey. But dammit, it still has that spongey texture and it grosses me out. I'm forcing myself to eat it, but I'm not having any fun here.

lol

okie74 12-08-2005 05:06 PM

if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour

I DID NOT KNOW THIS !!!....Thank you for the information

LLV 12-08-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie74
if you pick up a loaf of "wheat" bread and look at the ingredients and it says "enriched wheat flour", it's white bread that's MADE to look like wheat bread. That's where they trick you. All bread is made from wheat flour. But true blue wholesome wheat bread is made from whole grain flour. Not refined or "enriched" flour

I DID NOT KNOW THIS !!!....Thank you for the information

You're welcome :)

I always read the ingredients. Make sure it says "whole" in there somewhere. Whole wheat flour, whole grain flour, etc.

WHOLE is the key ;)

kookiemonster 12-25-2005 08:22 PM

I was raised on dark rye bread lol the good finnish kind with like 10g fiber per slice.:dizzy: But I like white bread too, actually I like them all except ww tortillas and plain white sandwhich bread.
But if you only like white bread then eat it, you're not going overboard with it anyway.

Amarantha2 12-25-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLV
Thanks for the suggestions and comments, they're much appreciated. I'll look for the Sara Lee bread, but I've never heard of Orowheat. I'm in the United States, it's possible we don't have that here.

As for the "white" equalling poor health, I don't believe any one food group or 'type' of food can cause your health to be poor unless it's the only thing you eat. If you eat healthy 99% of the time and then one day eat a piece of white bread or a bowl of white rice, it's certainly not going to kill you. Some people stay away from the 'white' stuff for their own personal reasons and I think that's great, that's their choice. Never eating white rice again certainly isn't going to cause you to die at an early age, lol. But I personally feel that 'white' foods got a really bad rap (thanks to people like Oprah and Dr. Atkins) that wasn't deserved. Not as harsh as they made it sound, anyway. They're got people brainwashed so badly that they feel they're literally contaminated if they eat pasta.

That's ridiculous.

Now, people with diabetes need to watch those food because of the spikes in blood sugar. My mother had diabetes and I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant. That's definitely the exception. But I don't think 'white' foods hurt, as long as they're eaten in moderation. Nobody is saying you have to chow down on pasta all day long.

Balance is the key ;)

Orowheat is definitely to be found in the United States, as I live in Arizona.

I guess I hold the opposite view from you: I don't find it "ridiculous" to be concerned with the effects of high glycemic carbohydrates, such as white bread, white rice, white flour, in my diet. :) I don't think these are healthy for anyone and they certainly don't contribute anything positive to my weight management program or my health.

If you wish to eat white bread and feel it doesn't harm you, then enjoy. :)

dietcokeaddict 12-26-2005 05:36 AM

when my brother and I were picky eaters and we wouldn't eat wheat bread, my mom made us sandwiches which had one slice of white and one slice of wheat... maybe you could try that, or with pasta... just mixing in half and half?

Mina 12-26-2005 09:53 AM

I'm in the US too, and we have Orowheat.

On my diet, Core in WW, we're not supposed to eat bread unless we count points for it, even whole wheat bread. And all our other grains have to be whole grains. And only once a day, unless it's a grain other than wheat or brown rice or potatoes (which is not a grain, but a carb).

I did badly the last week and ate too much of the forbidden foods. I've gained about 5 lbs.

Today is a new day. Trying Curves, going back to my 100% Core and vegan diet. And we'll see, eh?

:tread: :goodscale

Amarantha2 12-26-2005 11:48 AM

Mina, the Sugar Busters WOE, which I am back on as I feel wonderful on it and lose weight, also says to generally "limit" bread, even the 100 percent stone ground whole wheat or other whole grain bread it recommends sticking to. The recommendations are more general ... no "forbidding" ... but for weight loss it suggests having only two slices of bread a day, three for weight maintenance.

This isn't a low carb plan, though, it's a "good carb" plan, carbs are not limited, it just suggests there are better carbs.

The reason white bread is SO not-helpful relates to the fact that it is so quickly digested, being stripped of the nutritious fiber ... so all that's left is "starch" ... starch is just another name for a great big SUGAR molecule ... starch quickly converts to sugar in the body and causes insulin spikes, not only to sensitive or diabetic people, but to most people ... the GI theory re weight control, which Sugar Busters (in my opinion) explains so well is generally that excess levels of insulin in the body not only lead to the inability to lose weight, but contribute to the rampant epidemic of diabetes and insulin resistance. It's not so much a question anymore of whether we ARE a diabetic ... it's likely we'll become one if we go on eating these empty carbs ... the CORE program seems remarkably similar to Sugar Busters ... except I'm not sure if CORE calls for white potatoes ... these are a complete no-no on Sugar Busters ... and these DO make me sick (probably the insulin spikes), so that's good.

Anyhow, not meaning to ramble. Just wanted to comment that I think it's great you're going back on your good program ... enjoy Curves. :)

Miaka 02-08-2006 03:40 PM

Have you tried the white wheat bread? Taste and look just like white bread, except it is wheat. Maybe someone mentioned it already.

AquaWarlock 02-08-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loreebee
We used to get what we thought was a good clean bread at the grocery store, but you know? There ARE none without that crap in it! So, we get our bread at Wild Oats.

I go to Wild Oats for my bread too--but mainly because they sell half-sized "bachelor's loaves" (I don't eat enough bread for a full-size loaf to go w/o growing molds :( )

Anyways, I think Sara Lee makes white whole wheat bread -- haven't taste it yet but worth giving a try.

There are also lots of other ways you can work in whole grains--pastas, cereals, etc.


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