Is there an online recipe builder somewhere ...other than ww because I can't get that...where you can put the recipe in and it will give you the calories, fat and fiber so that you can figure out the points? TIA!

These are the two non-WW ones I know of:

http://www.calorie-count.com/calorie...e_analysis.php
and
http://www.fitwatch.com/database/analyzer.php

Both are incredibly flawed, that is, they have limitations. The first one is far easier because you just copy/paste your recipe in the box and it does everything for you, BUT it isn't always able to find the exact ingredient you used. The second one is more comprehensive, but the method of selecting each ingredient is kind of a pain imho.

That'll give you nutritional info, then just plug that into a WW points calculator.