Opinions needed please

  • Hey girls
    ok. I need all of your wise opinions please.
    So , we all now i've been off the wagon for a bit...(feminine issues taking over my life)
    But now that i'm mentally better, I need to get back on my low carb train. SO. I've been contemplating doing the Fat Flush also....what do we all think? should i try it? or stick to just low carb?
    or both??
  • I have never done the fat flush so i can not voice here.
  • There are several people doing the Fat Flush that post on the forum at lowcarbing.com. You might check out their opinions.
  • princess dear. i was wondering why your plea for opinions only got TWO responses... we're FAMOUS for putting our two cents in, even when we're not asked. but then i read your question.

    and i have nothing to contribute!!! except that it's great that you're getting back on the wagon. whatever program you decide on.
  • Princess, can you describe the fat flush? I am not familiar with it.

    thanks and best of luck
  • Princess, I'd stick with Atkins IF it was working for you. I am reading Fat Flush now - it seems like it has more carbs than Atkins and the Long Life Cocktail seems like a good idea. However, keep it simple and go back to Atkins for a while.

    Just my opinion.
  • here's what i think
    So, ok. the fat flush is this kind of low carb/cleansing thing that a bunch of girls are doing on this site, and seem to be doing well....so i was going to try it.

    What i think is this. I have ordered the book...so i'm going to read it. while this is going on, i am going to stay with the atkins, as it seems to be working (even though i fell of the wagon and have been having that "TOM" for about a month now, i'm only up 2 lbs still) so i think that's good, being that bf and i have eaten like little piggies lately.
    SO. After i read the book then i may try it. I like to read the plan first.....so. that's the plan.
    why am i so indecisive????
  • DITTO !!!!!

    Don't know the fat flush so I can't comment. I just wanted to join the group.

    Stick with what you know, because after a while they all get so darn confusing you won't know which one to do.

    Love, Leenie
  • Ok, I have a couple of cents to add in here! PJ, my very close and dear friend who I have known all my life (trust me, we have baby pics together!) was ALWAYS overweight. She was always the biggest girl in the class and grew to be an adult with weight problems. I NEVER cared what she looked like on the outside, I always knew what a sweet and wonderful person she really is, even if she didn't think so at the time. Well, after her second child, she decided to take control of her life. She started eating low carb (not a specific plan really) and the pounds melted off. I was marvelled at the change in her and so happy for her. I asked her what the keys to success were and this is what she had to say: Whenever she felt like she wanted something, evenif it was a carb, she ate it. Simply because you would deny yourself that one thing, you would eat everything else in the house first and then eventually eat it! And she would not limit herself to following a plan during her period or on special holidays like Christmas, BUT, when it was over, she had to go back to her plan no matter what. She said the pounds came off slowly at first as she was adjusting herself to this new way fo eating but they came off faster when she started to see and feel real success. She felt more confident and felt less likely to snack, and less likely to stray from her plan during TOM and holidays! She lost a grand total of 90 pounds and she looked fabulous. So what I'm saying is, cut yourself a break during TOM and other times--it doesn't mean you are less committed or you don't want to succeed, just that the hormones in your body are making it very hard. Please do give Atkins a fair chance--stay on it for a whole month and overall look back and see how it is working for you. I hope my advice helps you in some way--good luck!
  • POOKY! Thank you for the insight. that is really wonderful advice. you are so wise.
  • OK, here's my 2 cents: I would stick to a low carb way of eating. It doesn't have to be as strict as Atkins. Work towards eating healthy, low carb choices all day and drink your water and get some kind of exercise . This is what i had been doing lately and it does work. I found that Atkins was too strict on fruit for me. I like to have a piece of fruit now and then, without feeling that I've gone off program. Besides fruit is good fiber. I try to eat between 40-60 gms of carbs a day.
    The only reason that I started the Fat Flush plan was because of the cleansing and detoxifying of the body, especially the liver. I recently began taking a type of chemotherapy drug for my psoriatic arthritis & psoriasis. Because it can be very damageing to the liver, i thought that some of the things in the FFplan would be benefitial for me. I will still do some of them, such as the LLC , flax seed oil and supplements but i am basically a low carb lady.
    What do think about us low-carbers having our own 3 week challenge (like they are doing over at Body for Life). It won't matter what plan we do, as long as we are accountable each day for clean eating, water intake, and exercise. I'll post this question as a separate topic. We won't count weight, just accountability.
    ~~~Sil
  • Here is a link to a very informative Fat Flush Plan website. There are lots of success stories going on there and people who are claiming that this woe has changed their health and their lives for the better.
    http://boards1.ivillage.com/messages...tflush174.html

    I'm just finishing my second week of Phase I which, like the Atkins Induction, can continue beyond two weeks. It's very strict though and I'm having a very hard time without salt. Food has no flavour, no matter how many herbs and spices you add to it without salt. Unfortunately, even in Phase II, (ongoing weight loss) salt is not permitted and it's really restricted in Phase III, which is like Maintenance. People say I will get used to it. I'm thinking that one of the reasons people lose weight on this woe is that the food tastes so bland they lose their appetities. LOL But, you'd be amazed at how many of the folks posting at that website are claiming that they're enjoying their food more now and especially veggies. Go figure. To me, the only food that doesn't taste better with salt is fruit.
    Still, I have to say that I'm feeling very good and my clothes are beginning to feel very loose in places they haven't felt loose before so I'm going to hang in and continue. I can see myself modifying it to a certain extent though. I don't think a LITTLE bit of salt is that harmful.
    One nice thing about the plan is that it allows 2 fruit per day. I'm really enjoying my Okanagan peaches which I certainly couldn't on Atkins. This diet claims to be a higher fat (healthy fat) plan but the only fat that is allowed is flaxseed oil and you can't cook with it. No dairy is permitted so no butter, cream, cheese, milk, etc. I have just bought a loaf of Spelt bread which is the only kind allowed beginning in Phase II and I think I will be enjoying it very much.
    If you have done well on Atkins, I think I'd stick with it. I was on a continual plateau though, even on Induction. Something had to change. I don't know if I'll do FFP for life but certainly until I lose a lot more weight.
  • ok, good advice, thanks everyone!
  • You're more than welcome PJ, good luck!