Thanks for the tip, Jo. You don't have to be a kid to love water slides. ha! We have dozens of them near here in Wisconsin Dells.

Jo, I just googled them and found out you can get them on Amazon. Every once in awhile I order Wasa Crisp bread there and I always need something else to get it up to $20 so that I can get free shipping. This should be perfect!

That should have been $25!

Just received a new book called Un-Dieting...can't remember the author. There is an e-book by that name that I would really like to read but I just don't like sitting at the computer that long. I think the author of that one is Nancy Hill. Has anyone read the e-book by that name? She has a website I think because I have received some info from her a long time ago but not recently. She seems really inspirational.

I had a rough day IE wise yesterday. I had a good breakfast and a half a banana snack and then we went shopping. My daughter took longer than ususal in one store so that by the time we finished with grocery shopping we were really hungry......about 3:30pm. We always go to McDonald's drive threw........I love hamburgers and it's only once a week.......my one time not to cook. We got happy meals and a cone to split. By the time we finished the cone we were about 5 mi. away and I realized that they had given me nuggets instead of a hamburger. When we got home I just kept searching for something to satisfy my hunger......pretzels, a couple bites of stir fry, a couple oreos.........just couldn't find what I wanted and felt awful. Then I ate a really small dinner and woke at 4am and couldn't go back to sleep because of hunger. I think maybe the prednisone isn't helping again (just recently had to up it again) but I'm trying to get around it. I do a lot of cooking for a lot of people so my one time out a week was kind of disappointing. Hope today is better. It's my youngest daugher's 17th bday and my son is bringing up his boat to take her and the family on the Mississippi.

Sorry to hear about the rough time Carol. I am completely with you. I have learned I want what I want and substitutes just don't do it. :hug: I chalk that up to life...would it have been ok to maybe make one at home or was it the whole eating something you didn't have to cook?

Ok, so normally I am not pressed about goals and making a certain wait by a certain time, but I realize I have a patten of about 3 weeks on and a week to a week and a half off. so my goal for july is to stick to my "plan" for a whole month. Exercise when I am supposed to and stick to my IE.

I think I needed to type that to make it more real

Went shopping for my trip and I am ok in the 22/24. Nothing was too small or tight. I didn't buy much since I am still trying to lose more weight.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Originally Posted by carolr3639:
I had a rough day IE wise yesterday. I had a good breakfast and a half a banana snack and then we went shopping. My daughter took longer than ususal in one store so that by the time we finished with grocery shopping we were really hungry......about 3:30pm. We always go to McDonald's drive threw........I love hamburgers and it's only once a week.......my one time not to cook. We got happy meals and a cone to split. By the time we finished the cone we were about 5 mi. away and I realized that they had given me nuggets instead of a hamburger. When we got home I just kept searching for something to satisfy my hunger......pretzels, a couple bites of stir fry, a couple oreos.........just couldn't find what I wanted and felt awful. Then I ate a really small dinner and woke at 4am and couldn't go back to sleep because of hunger. I think maybe the prednisone isn't helping again (just recently had to up it again) but I'm trying to get around it. I do a lot of cooking for a lot of people so my one time out a week was kind of disappointing. Hope today is better. It's my youngest daugher's 17th bday and my son is bringing up his boat to take her and the family on the Mississippi.

Yeah, Obie, it was the whole thing of not having to cook. ha! I felt really bad for reacting that way but now I know I am just letting myself get too hungry. The Un-Dieting book by Jackie Jaye Brandt is good. I'm rereading The Overfed Head, too, just to remind myself that dieting doesn't work....I mean after 30 yr you'd think I wouldn't have to keep reminding myself, right? I was talking today to my DIL who was really skinny before kids. We were saying if we could just bottle that before kids what ever it was that kept us skinny we'd be very well off in more ways than one.

Obie the IE scientist continues. So I got up worked out. It was 60 min of pilates and I did the beginner part since I am just starting...anyway I wasn't that hungry afterwards so I decided I wasn't ready to eat and needed to do some stuff out and about. I got hungry mid way through, but there was nothing near by I wanted so I waited...and waited. I think I got up to about to a 5 or 6. By the time I ate and I was ok. I had a foot long subway sandwich since I had another 2 hours before I went home and I wasn't stuffed just satisfied. I doubt I will do more then snack for the rest of the day...one of those holds me for a long while. In the old days I could have had 2-3 a day :faint:

Anyway, Day One of being on plan.

I like that scientist idea. Let me know what you discover!!! Great day today. Of course, I'm at home and able to eat when hungry. That makes a big difference. We're going to Alaska to visit our son next Mon., Lord willing. He's got all sorts of things planned. I think he feels a little lonely up there. He has committed to 3 yr. in the Army Corps of Engineers there. He's been working for them for about 4 yr. It's a six hr. plane trip. But to drive there would take a week. Hope the garden survives while we're gone. You're trip is coming up right, Obie?

May I join you all? I first read "Overcoming Overeating" when it came out in the late 80's. I have played with IE occasionally, but never really committed to it fully. I'm in my 60's and have been "dieting" since I was 9 yrs old. I have been so miserable last 18 months trying to lose weight, binging, and generally making myself sick at heart with it all. I work with a therapist on my eating issues, and I said to her that I think I'm ready to stop dieting and go to IE. She said "do it", so I got my book out again and am working on it. At my age, I decided I don't care any more whether I'm thin or not. I just want to like myself, not feel restricted, and enjoy life. I tossed my scale (well really just had my grandkids hide it somewhere in the garage), I don't even know what my weight is at this point. I will only weigh when I go to dr. Went to the store and got some of my "comfort" foods, and am working hard at doing it. I live alone for the first time in my life, so I don't have to conform to anyone else's eating habits, and don't have to explain myself to anyone. I would love to have someone to talk to who understands the concept.

Welcome Jerie, There are a lot of good books on IE and each seems to address a different aspect of the idea. It is really hard after years of dieting. If you read all the posts here and in the 4 other threads that came before you will get the idea. We all have different things to work on and like to share ideas. I'm 58 so not far behind you but I have a DH and 10 kids.....only 2 at home this summer.......to cook for. Seems like someone is always coming for a meal. Lately, I've been impressed with the fact that even though I might want to start another diet, when I read what they want you to do I think, "I just can't do that." ha!

Hi Jerie -
I'm looking forward to getting to know you!
I like what you said about not having to explain yourself to anyone! As a loner I can identify with that full blast! It is one of the advantages of being alone, and as far as food is concerned that can definitely be a big advantage. You can just be independent and listen to your inner self, instead of thinking it's time for steak for Theobold or whoever. I like your Buddhist expression too.
I'm 50, single, no kids, hermitizing.
Welcome!
jo

Welcome jerie, hope you stay a while. :hug:

I am a little sleepy no deep thought. Ex is visiting......no idea what we are doing these days. When to see Transformers last night so ate a little more than I planned, but was satisfied. Skipping workout today...its a holiday dang it.

Hope everyone has a wonderful 4th.

Hey , Jo. Can you believe that deep down I'm really a loner, too, and with a DH and 10 kids? How did that happen? ha! Well, I've always really loved kids and still do but I have a special bond with my own kids. When it comes to talking, I'd rather listen but if I know someone is a real gabber I'll try to sneak away. I know, I'm wierd. We had a huge storm last night with tennis ball size hail. Didn't last long but put a few dents in some of the vehicles. Only one vehicle is in the garage right now because the old hot tub (waiting to be picked up by DS) is still sitting on one side. UGH! My one son tried to move some of the cars under trees to get them out of the hail but one slipped out of gear and started to go over a hill! He managed to save it before it was to late. Sure scared everyone.

Originally Posted by carolr3639:
and 10 kids? How did that happen?

Carol - someday when you are a little older, we will tell you about the Birds and the Bees. ;)

Thanks ladies for the welcome. I already feel at home here. I didn't used to be a loner, this is a relatively recent concept for me. I'm divorced, & I have 2 sons, and 5 granddaughters that I see a lot of. I took care of my mom in my home for many many years & she died 18 mos ago. That was really the first time I had ever lived alone in all my life. It was unimaginably hard to get used to being alone. But now I mostly love it. :)

Jo - I know what you mean by hermitizing. I do that too, but it's more a weather thing. I live in the desert & It's in the 100-teens every day now. I don't poke my head out for much and never in the daytime. Good thing I'm retired and don't HAVE to go out unless I want to. Carol - sounds like a wicked storm. Glad you didn't have any more damage than that.

Have a wonderful 4th everyone. I, for one, will be staying in where it's cool.

Jo, I've heard that line before. ha! Jerie, my mom lived with me for about a year and a half before she died last Aug. She was nearly 91. She took care of herself in an apt. near me until then. I never realized how much I would miss her. Today I had an epiphany......or whatever you call it. When I go grocery shopping I can't help but notice all those magazines that say things like "lose 20lb in a week" or "lose 100 lb in 90 days". Why do I still kind of believe it might happen, after 30 yr. of trying no less? I guess it sells magazines. I didn't buy one!

Morning all. I didn't do too well at letting myself get hungry yesterday - I was busy feeling sorry for myself. :) That's my biggest problem, eating emotions. Do any of you have that problem? How do you get back to waiting for hunger when you are in the midst of that? I did pretty well about not dumping on myself for doing it, so I guess that's progress.

Carol, I hear you on those magazines. I am the same way about wanting to believe it will happen. I have to keep telling myself 'diets don't work'. Well...they do work for me - I always GAIN weight with them. Where in AK are you going to visit your son? I love Alaska, it's such a beautiful place. I had a cousin who taught school and lived there from the early 60's. She was married to a native so it was nice to visit them and get to go to "non-tourist" places.

Hope everyone has a good day.

Jerie, My son lives in AK but we are renting an RV for 8 days and going all over. I'm not much of a traveler and I saw on Accuweather that it is to rain there for a lot of the time we'll be there. Should be really interesting.

Sorry about that..........should have been Anchorage, AK.

Just wanted you to know that here is a lady who has a website on IE and she will personally email you with any question you might have. She is really nice.
http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/

Hey ladies, 4th of july and visit with the ex went ok. Eating wasn't horrible and I enjoyed myself, still 2lbs over my lwest weight but thinking that will drop off since I am back to my routine. Amazing how much routine matters.

Ok, no other deep thoughts here.:hug: Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Just wanted to say we will be leaving for Alaska tomorrow, Lord willing, for a 2 week vacation. It's really hot here right now so I know it will be a drastic difference in climate. Might be a nice change. It's always harder to stick to IE when away from home because you are eating other peoples food which you may or may not care for. I'll let you know how it goes.

ok Carol won't see this, but hope you have a safe and fun trip. I actually had to turn on the A/C today while working out because it was just too much. Back to my low weight again...Eating at home is just so much easier...Really curious to see what happens when I am away for a week.:D

Sounds like everyone is getting away this summer. I envy you guys your trips. Especially alaska - it just sounds cooler saying the word. I had a good weekend, eating-wise, and was busy with grands & yard work which helped. Hope everyone has a good week.

Still doing fairly well with my eating. Still am having trouble deciding what full is, but I think I'm getting closer to it. I guess all the ie people are on vacation these days. Oh well, living alone, I'm used to talking to myself. :)

Hi Jerie, I'm in AK now and using my DS computer. I think it's pretty hard to keep at IE when away from home but that's just my opinion. I can't get my normal eliptical session in every day either. So I'm plugging along and praying. I'm enjoying my grandson but you can have the bears and moose. ha! I know how hard it is to get the full thing right. I've been at this for a year and finally noticing a difference in my clothes and a few pictures seem better, too. So the progress is slow but ever so much more bearable than starving. Keep up the good work.

Hi Carol - I'm glad you made it to alaska ok. Is it nice and cool? Are you enjoying the 20 hrs of daylight? Now I'm just the opposite of you, I do best when I'm not at home. I get more interested in the people etc. that I do with the food. Enjoy your grandson - grandkids are just the best thing about getting older. Have a wonderful rest of your vacation.

Yep Jerie it is cool. I like that but not the 20 hr. of daylight. I'm a real routine type of person so when I'm out of my routine I get frustrated and then I eat for pleasure rather than hunger. I live in the beautiful hills of the Mississippi River in WI and you just can't beat them for beauty . Some people like mts better, however. Have a great day!

Just thought I'd let you know, Jerie, that we're going camping out in the boonies so I might not be on here for a week or so. I'm not much of a camper so this should be really interesting. ha! After being a stay at home mom for nearly 40 yr it's hard to break routine. ha! Everyone else is excited about seeing the bears!!

Have had kids and grandkids all week. They all left yesterday, and I know it sounds awful, but I'm so glad to have a quiet house again. Carol, I'll be interested to hear about your camping trip. It's probably been that long since I did it too. Hope everyone is having great fun on their summer get aways. Can't wait till you all get back to hear about them.

We're in between RV trips today but heading out again soon. Eating hasn't been the best because of driving and boredom. Hope the damage isn't too bad. I have the hardest time with laptop computers so this will be really short.

Hey ladies sorry I haven't posted in a while, but been in vacation mode and trying to get ready for that. Well for all my talk of being focused I didn't excercise, but still stuck to IE for the most part and managed to come down a little more. I agree with you Carol, nervous about my routine changing and sticking to IE while I'm away. We'll see. This will probably be my last post till I get back. see ya later.:hug:

Hi -
Obi and Carol - hope you enjoy your vacations! Of course you will, no need to hope, right?
I usually end up dropping a couple pounds on vacation; so maybe it's time I took one!! (Probably I drop because I'm not sitting all day.) But I haven't had a full blown vacation in ages; I just piddle away a day here and there.

Hi Obie and Jo, I'm still in the boonies but I wasn't feeling well yesterday.......dizzy for some reason. I'm a little better today. I think that straightened out my eating because now I'm not as hungry or snacking as much. I think I may have been dehydrated. Hope you have a great time, Obie. I think most people gain on vacation, Jo, so you are somewhat of a rarity.

Carol - I hope you are feeling lots better soon!
I am more than somewhat of a rarity; I am a weirdo! I usually also don't enjoy most vacations! I am toying with the idea of taking a vacation to a retreat center where people go to classes and yoga and they fast (well they eat exclusively a liquid - herbal/juice stuff I presume - diet all week.) Hey, it sounds more suitable to my weirdness than the more typical vacation things I have tried in the past!

Carol - hope you're feeling much better by now. Good to see you Obi & jo. I like the idea of a retreat. I have friends that go to them quite often. Most of them don't make you fast, but most do have only veggie food. A lot of them are silent too. Don't know if I could stop flapping my yap for a week, with people around. Even at home alone, I'm talking all the time. I am reading "When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies" (written by the same 2 women who wrote 'Overcoming Overeating"). It's pretty good. I've been at it several weeks now, and honestly think I starting to see a difference in the way I'm thinking and talking about myself. That's the thing that distresses me more than my weight - the way I talk trash about myself. On a scale of 1-10, my self-self esteem has never been more than -99. As I get older, things like that are becoming more important to me than how much I weigh and how I look. Yikes - I'm philosophical this a.m. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend doing just what you want to do.

Hi Jerrie and Jo, Finally back from the boonies and pretty sure my trouble was dehydration. I didn't use the bathroom that night for about 9 hr. and I haven't done that in years and years. I was ok the next day, thank the Lord. Vacations are the pits for eating. Snack food everywhere in the RV. I don't think I was hungry all week. But I did have the best veggie gyros twice at a Greek place. Now I have to learn how to make them. ha! My big trouble was little exercise although yesterday we did walk 4 mi. We were on a bus trip and a dinner cruise that I was not really impressed with. You were supposed to see lots of wildlife but we didn't see much. But the last few days have been really beautiful and it's nice just to enjoy the scenery. I'll be glad to get home to my own bed, though and my eliptical. I haven't done very well staying out of the sun. I know what you mean about talking down to yourself. I'm like that, too. Ah well. Have a great weekend all.

Hi group! :)

I'm joining you...if I can! ;) I posted my comment on the intuitive eating number 4 to introduce myself and to answer "Meg on a Mission" about books on intuitive eating and the ways to recognize our hunger. Thanks Spinymouse for orienting me here! I took the initiative to post my message again so I can reintroduce myself.

I'm a 37 yr old single woman from montreal, no kids, never been maried. I speak english but my native tongue is french so forgive me if I make a mistake once in a while! :)

I've just discovered this thread and I love it! I've known this approach for many years but was always looking for something else... a diet who would help me shed the pounds faster! After all this effort, all those years of searching, I realise I knew what to do all along! I've just started using this approach but I know it's the thing for me. I feel liberated from the obsession of food, the counting, the search for a quick fix! This is long term for me!

Meg, I don't know if anyone has suggested this author already...Geneen Roth. She's been writing books for 15 yrs on the subject of eating until satisfied. She talks about her obsession with foods and diets and her recovery. She discusses the ways to recognize real hunger and the emotion underneath our need to eat. She's just amazing!

Good luck everyone on this great journey!

Obsession--how did you escape it?
 

Hello Everyone! You all have the right idea. Intuitive Eating--what a simple concept. On Thursday, I ate a bit much. I felt guilty, as I had been doing fine and I "ruined it." The next thing I know, I'm at the grocery store, buying some low-carb staples. I'M VEGETARIAN. So there I was with a basket full of eggs, peanuts, tofu, cheese, some broccoli and green beans. I spent the weekend with my girlfriend, so this was something I'd start Monday (today). After some eggs and cheese for breakfast, nuts and a protein shake for lunch, and a lot of tofu/green beans for dinner, I found myself staring at a bag of peanut butter-filled pretzels from Trader Joe's. Four servings later, I decided that a "diet" that won't allow me to have a handful of pretzels is not for me. Oh, how foolish we can be sometimes when we get caught in those moments. I'm really going to try to focus on the whole concept of intuitive eating. I mean, that IS what I did all weekend long. I've been between 155-165 for as long as I can remember. I'm right around 160 now. I'm 5'5" and muscular and while I realize that's not TERRIBLE, I know I could afford to lose some weight. Right now I'm freaking out slightly because I have a half-marathon in a month (august 19th--san diego half-marathon) and I wouldn't mind dropping a few pounds before then. I have a decent base as far as mileage and I did run 6 miles on Saturday. I just feel like I have much more work to do to prepare. I have an 8-miler scheduled for next Saturday, followed by a 10 each of the following two weeks, THEN 13.1 at the race. For those of you who run, you know that the less fat you have to haul around, the easier it becomes. "Diets" don't work for me. I definitely believe THIS is the way. My question is for those of you who follow the Intuitive Eating approach to weight loss/health, HOW do you get over the obsession? I've been an obsessive calorie-counter off and on since I was 15. I'm 24 now. Even if I'm NOT counting calories as a way of "dieting," I ALWAYS make a mental note. I know calories of everything I eat and I can't get over that. What's the secret? Oh, and I count servings, too. For instance, if I grab a handful of pretzels and 11 is the serving size and I only grab 8. I'll eat 3 more just to make it an even serving. I am so brainwashed. Anyone have inspiring stories to share or suggestions? I'm sorry to have rambled on and on, but I really just want to be over it. Thanks in advance.
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