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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 5049905)

I do not recommend this.
The restricteds are there so we don't feel so deprived.

They are part of the program & for some people (especially if you're over 200 lbs), cutting them out could SLOW weight loss. Even with a restricted, you're eating less than 1000 calories/day.

The people I've "met" here on this forum who have had great success used the WHOLE program, including the restricteds.

After discovering my soy allergy I was faced with the fact that the only soy free restricted was white cheddar ridges. I absolutely can't stand them. I've asked three coaches and they have all told me a restricted is not required. It is simply meant to make you feel like you are treating yourself. This is my first week without a restricted and my 2nd week on the program. So I doubt I will be able to judge if it really makes a difference like stalling my weight loss.... unless they come out with another soy free restricted.

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Originally Posted by danijo8806 (Post 5049946)

My coach also says restricteds are not required.

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Originally Posted by danijo8806 (Post 5049946)

I'm soy/gluten restricted. I still have restricted. You can use quest bars, simply whey bars, or simply chips. Plus quest just came out with a chip as well.

There may be medical needs for making changes in the protocol (eg allergies). But recommending that someone change the protocol as written at the beginning for no medical reason I just don't agree with

Although restricteds are not "required", they make staying on the plan for long-term much more doable. The plan worked as written, there is no reason to hack it to work better. I've seen many hacks backfire

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Originally Posted by nat1015 (Post 5049925)

Interesting, are you supposed to have 1 every day? I have really only been having 3 or so a week.

I ate a restricted pretty much every day on P1. Very few people are so carb sensitive that it will hamper their losses. So enjoy!

You guys have made my day - I have been having a bar or maple oatmeal everyday... I was concerned that I should not have so many 'restricteds' --- now I can relax and keep on keeping on! ..... :cp:

Everyone's advice is so different! My coach told me I should avoid the restricted products as long as possible.

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Originally Posted by JJTx (Post 5049960)

Everyone's advice is so different! My coach told me I should avoid the restricted products as long as possible.

So many coaches have "house rules" IP used to limit restrictedsfor the first month or so, but now they are on the plan from the beginning. IP found there was more overall compliance to the plan using the restricted's, and also people sticking to the plan to achieve their weight-loss goals

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Originally Posted by JJTx (Post 5049960)

Everyone's advice is so different! My coach told me I should avoid the restricted products as long as possible.

That sounds like "house rules" of your coach. The protocol is for one restricted a day. As low calorie and low carb as IP already is there's really no reason to restrict yourself even further.

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 5049883)

14 lbs in 4 weeks is 3.5 lbs per week average. It is definitely in the 15/month ballpark I got my first few months on IP (before moving to 10/month)

I'll tell ya what? I'll trade you. You can have my 90 lb loss and the ensuing long stall that created a need to maintain for a year before getting to goal. I'll take your 3.5/week average. Heck, I'd even trade for consistent 10/month average. I'd trade because I know how to stick to plan and if I could get to goal without a major stall (defined as 4-6 weeks of no change on scale or measuring tape), I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I don't say that to be a b...what I'm trying to point out is that we need some perspective when losing weight. Every week won't be 10 lbs. It just doesn't work that way & we can't wish it into existence.

I affectionately refer to this perspective needed as "attitude adjustment".

To help with this, I'm quoting from today's daily chat

Weight loss isn't linear. You won't see a straight line. If you chart WIs every week, the data points will be very jagged (my wii fit did that for me). But then if you create a trend line, you'll see that the trend is down! If this is your desire, I say stick with the trend.

We all have timelines we want to meet. We need to shelve those. They only cause discouragement. Instead we should be celebrating not only every lb lost but every increment of a lb lost! How long did it take to get in your current condition?

Do you own The Beck Diet Solution book? If not, go on Amazon and order it RIGHT NOW!!! As we are making changes physically, we also need to make cognitive changes that will result in us learning to maintain this weight we are losing.

We only feel as good as we allow ourselves to feel. So changing a defeatist attitude to one of celebration changes your whole perspective. You lost weight! You are losing weight! What could be bad about that???

In the meantime, I suggest joining the 100% thread and sticking 100% to the sheet. This is the group where I see the most consistent progress and the most people reaching goal.

Also, re cardio: Take a walk! That's all the cardio you need right now. Not even a power walk. Just walk 20 minutes after dinner each nite. It does amazing things for our bodies when done consistently. Have you added an extra (80 calorie) packet after each weight training session? I hope your coach said to do that.

Sure, I'll trade! At 90 lbs I would be done with P1! Unfortunately that can't be done :D I think we all have health issues(or some of us, including myself, so sometimes trading may not be a good deal even if it were possible).

For the cardio, I have been walking every day, I have four schnauzers that I must walk daily. My coach says that doesn't count because it's not putting my heart rate at a high enough rate. And no she didn't tell me to have another packet after the weight training. That's kind of why I was asking about this.

I don't have the BECK diet book, I will go to Barnes and Nobles and look for that today.

Also I do read the 100% thread and several others on the board. It's helped greatly, that's why I came to y'all for advice :) What I get from this is 'be patient' and I will. Thanks for the help!!!

When my coach gave me a tour of the food pantry the first day, she told me to pretend the restricted side didn't exist.

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 5049956)

I'm soy/gluten restricted. I still have restricted. You can use quest bars, simply whey bars, or simply chips. Plus quest just came out with a chip as well.

My clinic is very strict and only allows IP food. That is how they make money. I can understand where they are coming from.

I don't feel deprived so I will see what happens without a restricted. I'm limited to mostly sweet packets so it's like I'm always eating dessert! I'm not doing it in hope the weight will come off faster, I'm simply stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't like the only restricted I can have, I can't get away with alternatives.

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Originally Posted by kathy72 (Post 5049969)

For the cardio, I have been walking every day, I have four schnauzers that I must walk daily. My coach says that doesn't count because it's not putting my heart rate at a high enough rate. And no she didn't tell me to have another packet after the weight training. That's kind of why I was asking about this.

Your coach's advice is very suspect. She does not realize that weight loss is a function of the food we eat, while exercise is very important in MAINTENANCE. If you've ever looked at how many calories are really used up in different exercises (not on MFP which has calorie burns way overblown, by the way) you would notice that it's easy to eat those calories back in no time flat. While on this diet your body cannot be working at a cardio heartrate and still be trying to process the fat that is stored . Make sure you are getting the daily coaching videos sent to you, because this is one of the things dealt with on them. See Dr. Tran Tien Chanh's book Ideal Protein - Because It's Your Life- page 104, "Will physical activity make you lose weight?" Quote, "You'd have to jog for 16 consecutive hours to lose 2 lbs of fat." just an example...
The dog walks are perfect exercise for this stage of your eating plan, remember you WILL add more exercise later.

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Originally Posted by kathy72 (Post 5049969)

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For the cardio, I have been walking every day, I have four schnauzers that I must walk daily.

Hooray for schnauzers!
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psf4428bee.jpg

Edited to add - I do have a restricted every day with little exception.

Your poochie doesn't look too pleased to be in the pic! LOL She looks like she has the world's longest eyelashes tho'... what a cutie pie! (and the dog is cute too! ;)

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Originally Posted by IP43 (Post 5050183)

Your poochie doesn't look too pleased to be in the pic! LOL She looks like she has the world's longest eyelashes tho'... what a cutie pie! (and the dog is cute too! ;)

LOL Thanks :hug: We were out celebrating her 1 year birthday.