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Old 05-23-2013, 09:05 PM   #1  
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Question Grams of Carbs per day

Hi hi everyone. Quick question. What have you all been told about the number of grams, per day, a P1 person can have. I find that if I eat one restricted IP food a day, which I generally do, that I go over my 25-35 grams/day allotment that my coach says is ideal.

Any thoughts would be appreciated as it kind of freaks me out.

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PS: I am logging through MyFitnessPal and not adding back in the fiber I believe another poster mentioned previously... Not even sure how I would find the fiber on MFP.
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My coach told me everyone is different. I can't go over 35g/day. Some people can go up to 45g and be ok. I'm one of those that's always had a hard time losing weight. She said people that are like me usually have to stay lower than people who seem to lose easily.
I had mentioned it on a previous post, but someone poo-poo'd me. Truth is, you're just going to have to track everything you eat and weigh in. I like to weigh in in the a.m. before I've had anything to eat. My weight fluctuates up to 5 lbs (!!!) through the day. She said I should see a loss close to everyday if I've stayed in ketosis.
We found out fast I can't have the bars. They have between 15 and 20 carbs each! That many at one time causes me to bump out. Not to mention trying to stay under 35 after that is difficult with everything else. She has no issue with bars though. (I LOVE that my coach is an IP user as well. She's lost almost 80 lbs I think.)
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I asked her for a complete list of every product/nutritional info. She was able to print it up for me in minutes. It's helped me be aware of what I'm eating (drinking really). Ask your coach for a list. Planning out everyday has been awesome in keeping me OP.
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The majority of people do just fine just following the sheet without tracking so intensely. However, there are a few who are THAT carb sensitive.

After a previous stint on Atkins, I thought I'd be one but I decided to just relax and let the plan work. I turned out not as carb sensitive as I thought I'd be.

To track fiber on MFP, you have to do it on the web, not on an app.

My coach told me IP is approx 50% protein, 30 fat, 20 carbs. I have my cals set at 950 max but I rarely get that high. And my NET carbs are under 40/day, which is on the info my coach gave me (I guess that is usually 25-35, sometimes closer to 40).
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I have a question. I know some people who have phased off have mentioned newly discovered food sensitivities wrt foods they hadn't been eating while on IP. Has anyone ever become more carb-sensitive due to being on IP (whether they've phased off or even are still in the program)? I'm thinking along the lines that their blood sugar spikes more quickly because their body isn't used to handling carbs.

I've noticed twice this week, after eating a restricted Peanut Butter bar, my body doesn't seem to handle the carb well (and I just had my annual with no sugar/diabetes issues). I have been eating the PB bars since the beginning, so I guess it could be that my body is getting sensitized (possibly) to that item??
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Thank you all. She said the 1st week I could exceed but now that I am in Week 2, I am struggling a bit more. We are meeting Tuesday so I will check in with her then again. Until then, I am going to keep focused on staying as low as possible.
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When I just relaxed and followed the sheet without trying to tweak it and stay as low as possible, THAT was when the plan really became easy to follow.

This is a VERY low carb/cal plan all by itself, without needing to try to tweak it lower.
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I was told that counting carbs was not necessary since I am not planning on deviating from the plan. If you follow the guidelines - 2 unlimited plus 1 limited, 2 cups veggies with lunch, 2 with dinner, 6-8 oz. lean protein and 2 tsp olive oil, why would it be necessary to count carbs?????

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Thank you all. She said the 1st week I could exceed but now that I am in Week 2, I am struggling a bit more. We are meeting Tuesday so I will check in with her then again. Until then, I am going to keep focused on staying as low as possible.
Make sure you play around with recipes....depending on what you craved in your past diet...you can learn to love turnip/ rutabaga fries, chocolate cake in a cup...rhubarb crisp ( and it counts a vegetable), as a few examples. I found this really helps me not to feel deprived! I also struggled with low energy for about 3 weeks but since then it has been great and being and staying in ketosis curbs cravings and appetite! You can do this!
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I was told that counting carbs was not necessary since I am not planning on deviating from the plan. If you follow the guidelines - 2 unlimited plus 1 limited, 2 cups veggies with lunch, 2 with dinner, 6-8 oz. lean protein and 2 tsp olive oil, why would it be necessary to count carbs?????

Exactly, when you start trying to cut things out from the plan as outlined that is when I found weight stalled. Biggest problem with cutting things down is you are getting less fibre and less good fat than is necessary to lose weight. The body rebels and holds on to the fat because it thinks famine is on the way.

I am amazed how many coaches complicate the program by putting in extra counting.
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Exactly, when you start trying to cut things out from the plan as outlined that is when I found weight stalled. Biggest problem with cutting things down is you are getting less fibre and less good fat than is necessary to lose weight. The body rebels and holds on to the fat because it thinks famine is on the way.
Nothing about this is true. Nothing. Can your body stop your heart from beating? What do you think your heart runs on?

The body can slow down the metabolism only a small amount. This is not something that is up for debate, nor is anyone a special case.

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After a previous stint on Atkins, I thought I'd be one but I decided to just relax and let the plan work. I turned out not as carb sensitive as I thought I'd be.
When you're on Atkins induction the reason that carbs matter is because you can eat as much food as you want so you track carbs as a food limiting mechanism. If you don't lose weight in Atkins you're supposed to keep lowering carbs until you do. At a certain point, there are only so many food choices you can make and keep carbs at a miniscule level.
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Make sure you play around with recipes....depending on what you craved in your past diet...you can learn to love turnip/ rutabaga fries, chocolate cake in a cup...rhubarb crisp ( and it counts a vegetable), as a few examples. I found this really helps me not to feel deprived! I also struggled with low energy for about 3 weeks but since then it has been great and being and staying in ketosis curbs cravings and appetite! You can do this!
What is this chocolate cake in a cup?
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What is this chocolate cake in a cup?
Take a chocolate drink pak, mix with enough water to make a slightly runny pudding consistency, add a teaspoon of olive oil, tsp of baking powder, dash of vanilla extract, one egg white, sweetener if you want....I don't use it. Put in microwave for 2-3 minutes....I find it works better in a bowl than cup as it gets quite bubbly. I might put a little WF maple syrup on it. You could make a delicious parfait using the cake, walden farms marshmallow cream and caramel sauce!! I haven't been given the new phase one sheet so I am operating under the premise that 0/0/0 foods like walden farms can still be used!
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Soooooo awesome! Going to try this weekend! Thanks!
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My weight was stalling for 3-4 weeks even though some measurements dropped. In this context, a few days after a visit w/ my coach, I felt really bad and don't know if I was in starvation mode or not. With weekend coming up, I decided to research this for a little for myself. After reading on this site about people going to phase 3 for a week, I decided to eat some healthy carbs for two days only (did not change scale). And then I did a version of boot camp where I ate only the lowest carb IP products every 3 hrs, to make a total of 5 per day with one drink containing the olive oil (ate nothing else, no veggies). Tried for 100 oz of water, but ended up around 80s. So I did this nutritional count intensely for 3 days, my daily calories were between 600-740 and protein was 83-110, and carbs were 28-31 TOTAL carbs off the back of the package (not net). And finally, the scale has started moving....

Yes, the IP protocol is intended to free us from intense counts. But you know your own body, and when you don't feel right, when your scale isn't moving, when you are out of energy and you have been on ideal protein successfully, my personal recommendation is to do a count and see if you can pinpoint the cause of your body's changed response to IP. One of the reasons I did no veggies or salads, just to check how my body responded, is that I am skeptical that we can really use unlimited Walden farms dressings and sauces. There has GOT to be calories in them regardless of what the label says!

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