Originally Posted by slow2lose (Post 4515800)

And just to play devil's advocate - there are many many people like me on IP - that had 20 pounds or less to lose. Do you think IP should be setting a limit to who can do the program - like only those over a certain BMI or bodyfat??

Originally Posted by EPAPRN (Post 4516197)

Hi,

My 2 cents - I am a Nurse Practitioner/cardiology: DO NOT do a salt water flush. You don't want to mess with your sodium levels in such an extreme way, especially when you are on such a restricted diet.

Have you had your BP checked?

Do you take any medications, any medical history, how old are you?

Extreme headaches could be your sodium level too high or too low, dehydration OR too much water.

You should phase off asap and see your MD - you should not screw around with your head.

Originally Posted by Kate1188 (Post 4516438)

I would check with your doc. Like other posters mentioned you are probably getting rebound headaches with the constant dosing of codeine and Advil. Your doctor should be able to give you a shot to get rid of it.

I hope you feel better soon! I truly don't think this diet is worth it to be in so much pain.

Ps- are you using mio? I was drinking it over the summer and couldn't get rid of an awful headache for over a week and it ended up being the fakey sugar in the mio.

Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 4516164)

When John said "not designed for someone like you" I believe he meant that IP is really designed for people with Metabolic Syndrome (sometimes called syndrome x). This is a different need than people who need to shed 10-20 lbs, with different associated medical problems.

I can see how it sounded hurtful but I saw where he was coming from when it was said. I'm sorry you felt mistreated at Weight Watchers. That program is EXACTLY for people who want to shed 10-20 lbs and who have not gotten themselves into the Metabolic Syndrome predicament.

Patns makes some good points, as well.

It really is time to talk to a doctor

Originally Posted by patns (Post 4516133)

This is something I have been wondering about.

First, I will say I am not commenting out of jealousy but out of curiosity.

I am in my 60s, at 5ft 1 inch I weigh 130 which is what my doctor does not want me to go below. This is would be a high weight for me if I was 18 but as a woman gets older the ideal weight goes up which is not the case for men.

You mentioned you wanted to meet your goal for your upcoming 50th birthday. So for your height, weight and age I would guess your body is at an ideal weight right now. I say guess because I didn't go to the calculators to check.

So the Ideal Protein plan is very heavy duty artillery to be using on a body which is desperately trying to stay at an ideal weight.

It must sense that it is under attack and is preparing for upcoming starvation.

So I wonder why your coach doesn't point out your weight is excellent where it is.

As for the nasty comments you said were directed at you at WW. I would want to ask the same thing too but would never cross the boundary to your personal business in real life just online :o.

But the reason I would want to ask is because when I went to WW way back in the day they had a rule that you couldn't join if you didn't have more than 10 pounds to lose by their calculation, not by the individuals.

So for me the question about people who just have 20 pounds to lose would depend on if the 20 pounds was a reasonable goal for the person's height % of body fat and age.

I would really watch the codeine with the headaches though. I hope you get rid of them very quickly.
Pat

Originally Posted by slow2lose (Post 4516678)

So, to answer your question about my goal weight - I don't really think 110 is low for me. WW actually would have let me go down to 102! Besides that, my life revolves mostly around healthy people in great shape. At my gym I always felt like one of the bigger women there - and I'm talking women my age and older. A lot of then work out with trainers like I did before IP and had amazing bodies - and I'm talking mostly women in their 40s and some in their 50s. That was my normal.

A lot of the women at my gym did IP and/or IP type diets, it was my trainer who gave me the idea when I wasn't getting the results I wanted with WW.

I used to be a fitness instructor myself years ago so I'm used to being on the low side of normal for weight and being in good shape. However I got lazy, let myself get out of shape and became a couch potato and started eating lots of crap and gained 20 pounds, I finally got scared of what was happening and went back to the gym.

And as far as WW is concerned I even got attitude from some of the leaders. At least I knew with my size 0 IP Coach she understood where I was coming from - and she is only a few years younger than me with 3 kids.

Originally Posted by healthyangie (Post 4516804)

I went on IP because other diets weren't working for me, including WW. My goal weight was one I decided and is much higher than the charts would have me. According to WW I should be 120, which honestly is WAY to small for me. Those charts never take muscle mass and frame into account. My IP coach would have like me at 125-130 which is also way too small. I'm at 147 now, in a size 6 and comfortable. This is a weight I can maintain and my body is at ease with.

I agree with you on so many points except for the idea of going to a 0 at age 50. It's not that I don't think it's attainable, but is it healthy and maintable. Remember, being skinny is not the same as being athletic and healthy. I'm in my mid 40's so I know that as we get older, maintaining a super lean body simply doesn't work, unless you have 8 hours a day to dedicate to that (like maybe Madonna - which let's be honest, she's a bit overboard also IMO).

Go by what you look like, how you feel and what your body is telling you. Not what the other ladies at the gym look like :)

Originally Posted by slow2lose (Post 4516649)

Mio isn't even available in Canada and my Coach said no Crystal Light - so just plain water for me. Wondering about the Splenda though - I never used that before IP. But I only have 1-2 packets a day.

I'm really beginning to think it's the sodium though - I'm going to start measuring that today.

Originally Posted by slow2lose (Post 4516658)

So again, I was welcomed into the program wth open arms, so you can see my frustration as people start to tell me it's not the program for me. :?: