Agreed. And for me, it helps to have this information. I know it's an extra 'thing' to do, but it helps me. If others don't want the hassle of it then that's fine too. We're all individuals. Whatever works best for each of us within the scope of the overall protocol of the program. And since I'm using alternative products, I somehow find it reassuring to see my daily nutritional totals and be able to go back and compare them.

I think the trick is to make the tracking as easy as possible. Though I measured my 2 cups religiously and wrote down what vegees I had, I didn't pay attention to individual vegee quantities. They were probably the same ones over and over, so it might have been easy to estimate and enter the values on a spreadsheet. We are all so dedicated to doing the right thing by our bodies and our health. It is a fair point that we can become a bit too obsessed with this level of detail, but also I think it is admirable to be exploring and learning about these things, and look forward to seeing how your experiments work. After awhile, you'll know what your triggers are and you won't have to be so detailed oriented.

My phase 1 sheet doesn't show that but I just checked the phase 2 sheet Wuv posted and that's what it says on it.

Didn't mean to stir up any hornet's nest by posting carb values, for goodness sake! I always appreciate all the knowledge others share on this site and soak up that information like a sponge. So, I figured posting the different carb values of the veggies would, if nothing else, just be interesting to see. Knowledge is power after all! Do with it what you may!

Though I might agree I have a somewhat obsessive personality , I feel neither stressed nor obsessed - I just feel......curious! All I know is, I got fat, and I want to do whatever I can to not BE fat or GET fat again! It would be completely typical of my old eating patterns to gravitate toward high carb foods. The fact that even on IP I chose to have rutabaga and red pepper nearly every day as my veggies, along with a sweet restricted item, kind of shows I am subconsciously continuing that pattern. Since I didn't know the carb content of those veggies before - my selections would not have been intentional - it is just the types of foods I am drawn to, and something I feel I need to watch because I know my triggers and see it as a continuation of the same pattern.

Also intentionally or not, it's just a fact that those who stick to eating mostly lower carb veggies - broccoli, cauliflower, etc, are getting fewer carbs than what I have been taking in. And from what I can see of those who have said this is what they mostly stick to, they seem to be losing at a faster rate and have been more successful with the weight loss. So isn't it POSSIBLE that there is a connection here?

For me, I just thought it would be interesting to explore this theory. It's only for myself and I'm not suggesting it for anyone else. I think we all just want to do the best we can, in the way that works best for us.

PS - and remember that this information about carb limits and possible reasons for slower losses first came to me from the physician in the videos. So actually, that IS coming from the IP Program, yet it's not something I heard in orientation.

LOL - I'm with ya 3sisters.

PS - and remember that this information about carb limits and possible reasons for slower losses first came to me from the physician in the videos. So actually, that IS coming from the IP Program, yet it's not something I heard in orientation.[/QUOTE]

I am with you, my thoughts exactly.....well said.

Thanks for the info! I try to generally steer toward the lower carb choices and this is nice to have on hand!

This information is helpful and could clearly make a huge difference for those who are super carb sensitive, whether it be a veggie carb, or carby carb... right??? LOL!!! Power is knowledge and I myself am always intellectually curious so the more information I read about the more questions I have! TY!!!

I too have been eating red peppers every day but I probably eat 1/2 as I put a fourth of a pepper cut up in my salad. I remember saying to my coach how excited I was to be able to keep them in my diet as I figured they would be too much like fruit they're so sweet! I seem to be dropping so guess I won't worry about it until the weight loss stalls.

We can all retreat to our corners and we'll all take up such little space in our corners 'cause we all losing so MUCH WEIGHT!!! WOO HOO!!!

It's just all been such a struggle for so long, ya know? I know you all do. Wuv, please keep your advice and opinions coming - they are and always will be welcome! The information I've gotten, from all points of view, continues to be invaluable and can only help me in my journey. I so respect you and all of you 'seniors' who have done such an awesome job - you've all been an incredible source of continued motivation and knowledge. This forum is really terrific and I thank my lucky stars I have found this 3fc family!

LizRR, we started at almost exactly the same weight and only 2 wks apart and I am in awe of your success! Might I even say jealous?? I want to be YOU! LOL! I'm going back to your post and studying your typical daily meals and take some tips!

Thanks for clearing that up. Im keeping it simple as I was instructed. Not doing any counting, if I wanted to count I would of stayed with WW. Im not even going to look at the video. Im new on this program and to keep myself mentally ready I will follow my coach. I just dont have time to stress or worry. Thanks for all the information.

Anyone else use zucchini a lot? My staples are zucchini, broccoli, rhubarb and cauliflower. I didn't see it on your list though.