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JCWilkie 09-13-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tomsmom (Post 4030716)
Not doing well at all. I was so excited about starting over but this has proven to be more difficult than expected. My weight is not even budging.

My IBS is acting up which for me means, constipation (sorry I know its gross to talk about but hopefully someone can give me some advise.) Because of this I have been taking my old fibre supplements. Yesterday I discovered my supplements which I take 3 X day have 8 grams of Carbs!!!!! That means I have been taking 24 grams of Carbs in my firbre supplement. This could be the answer as to why I am not dropping any weight.

I assumed I was in Ketosis and that is why I have been feeling fatigued and had a headache. Now I have to wonder if that is the case since I have been basically eating and extra day worth of carbs with my supplements. So off to the drug store to buy some ketostix. Do they still sell those things?

I guess today is the first real day that I am back on the diet. I will be more diligent now about reading my labels. I get my weigh in tomorrow. Hopefully I will be down at least a pound or two.:crossed:

I'm feeling the same way! Could not sleep for the life of me last night! I don't remeber it ever being thi shard the first time around. And I definately have to increase my ruffage :dizzy:

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4030526)
Okay so after a completely miserable week on plan (basically I felt like a teenager stomping and pouting because I couldn't eat anything yummy). I had a great weigh-in...

down 6.4 pounds....2 inches in the chest, 2 inches in the waist, 1.5 inches in the hip, 1/2 inch on each arm, no change in thighs....wow was I carrying some bloat around.

On to week two (this morning I was down another 1.2 pounds). Okay I guess I can keep this up.

I was very grump this weekend, wanted to eat everything!
And I broke! drank 2 beers each night, justifying it because they were "low carb" beers!

Congrats on the SV! We all know the program works, it's just getting back into the mindset of making it work!

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Originally Posted by Journeysend (Post 4029923)
Hi Everyone...

Well I proved it to myself..if I stay on the plan it works!! Lost 8lbs and 8 inches!!!! So excited, in the groove :D
Hope everyone had a good week and this week will be great too:hug:

Gaile

Congrats! That's an amazing amount of loss!
Is this your first week back at it?

darbs7 09-14-2011 08:01 AM

Okay ladies my mind is running wild on me.....here are some thoughts going through it....

1. The hardest part of IP is phase 4 and sticking to it.

2. But sticking to it....really works

3. I am having major body image issues.....when I was 246...I thought I looked "okay".....but now I am my own worst enemy....I tried on at least 10 different designers/brands this week...all in a comfortable size 6 yet....I am unhappy with my progress.

4. When I buy jeans I buy waist 28 or 29 (or at least when I was a size 8 that is the waist size I bought) yet at my clinic my waist measurement is higher (by several inches)....why?

5. I am pleased that 3 months on maintenance I was only up about 5 pounds....but I really want to lose the last 15.....but I am having a harder time loving phase 1 (although I am sticking to it).

6.Will I ever be happy with my progress?

locks 09-14-2011 10:04 AM

I bought the ketostix online, here they were way to expensive, 50$, I paid like 9.99 online, and when I got them, I cut them length wise in half, so that doubled my amount. Its nice to just see if your ketosis, I have learned my body now, when I seem to go in my mouth goes extra dry. Takes me about a day and a half. The headached I get only when I am missing some salt.

Whew week one done, wooott,,,,, was rough I tell you! Not going to the gym today, feel very tired, worked late all this week, so dont want to get run down.

Anyone notice after they eat, that their tummies are very vocal. Last night after my ip shake, my patient was laughing at my tummy making all kinds of noises. She asked me if I needed to eat. I said no.... I had my full 5 mins I managed to sneek in, and suck down my shake. Later had my cucumbers and celery. Woke up at 12.30 starving so had another shake. Last night lost a whole pound. Guess we have to listen to our bodies.

2Balance 09-14-2011 12:24 PM

Restarting IP
 
I am so relieved to restart IP tomorrow. I haven't seen my coach in about six weeks. I gained about 5# being off IP but it feels more like 10#. I just feel icky and can't wait to get my system on track again. I plan to loose about 22# and that should be it. I have lost 40# total on IP and this program rocks. I must admit I enjoyed the break from the food and it was fun. But I am craving copious amounts of vegetables. Good luck to all you restarters. I will be interested to hear how everyone progresses.

2Balance 09-14-2011 12:27 PM

I am inspired...restarting tomorrow. Needed to see success! Thanks.

Aunt Sheshie 09-14-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4030526)
Okay so after a completely miserable week on plan (basically I felt like a teenager stomping and pouting because I couldn't eat anything yummy). I had a great weigh-in...

down 6.4 pounds....2 inches in the chest, 2 inches in the waist, 1.5 inches in the hip, 1/2 inch on each arm, no change in thighs....wow was I carrying some bloat around.

On to week two (this morning I was down another 1.2 pounds). Okay I guess I can keep this up.

Way to go, Darbs!.. I knew you could do it...

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Originally Posted by AmyonIP (Post 4030083)
Aunt Shesie, we all notice you! You've been such an inspiration to so many of us. It's not goofy at all, I think everyone learns and grows (or shrinks) as we get older.

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4031919)
Okay ladies my mind is running wild on me.....here are some thoughts going through it....

1. The hardest part of IP is phase 4 and sticking to it.

2. But sticking to it....really works

3. I am having major body image issues.....when I was 246...I thought I looked "okay".....but now I am my own worst enemy....I tried on at least 10 different designers/brands this week...all in a comfortable size 6 yet....I am unhappy with my progress.

4. When I buy jeans I buy waist 28 or 29 (or at least when I was a size 8 that is the waist size I bought) yet at my clinic my waist measurement is higher (by several inches)....why?

5. I am pleased that 3 months on maintenance I was only up about 5 pounds....but I really want to lose the last 15.....but I am having a harder time loving phase 1 (although I am sticking to it).

6.Will I ever be happy with my progress?

Thanks, Amy... I think I'm slowly recovering from my recent self-underappreciated state... I recently came across an absolutely brilliant blog post that helped a lot &, in light of Darbs's #6 thought, I'll quote a little bit of it:

~~~~~~~~~
What Are You Afraid Of?
by Caroline Radway

Do you find that no matter how ‘good’ your intentions are to get healthy and fit, that you can’t seem to prevent yourself from messing it all up at a critical moment?

Do you seem on autopilot when it comes to some of your less productive habits, resulting in self-sabotage that stop you from reaching those goals you were so dedicated to just a short while earlier?

There are always deeper things involved, so rather than getting further into that cycle of self-sabotage – guilt – denial – self sabotage why not think about things a little differently?

Our sabotaging behaviours, the mindset that triggers them and the overweightness that result can all stem from fear.

The patterns of behaviour are a comfort to us in times of need, they serve a purpose, even if its a misguided one, there are positives to be seen and recognised rather than just blaming. Subconsciously we are protecting ourselves from perceived threat – whatever that may be.

The resulting layer of unwanted fat is also protection – from unwanted attention perhaps, if there has been history of traumatic experience, but also it is often more universal and self-propagating – it is a way of hiding the light we have to shine, for fear that we are not good enough to shine it!
~~~~~~~~~

To read the rest of this inspiring post, go to FitBodyFix...

hugs :hug:

carlasherea 09-14-2011 01:55 PM

Great thread. I would agree that Phase 4 is the hardest Darbs7! I gained a few lbs after being on Maintenance for 1 yr. 3 mo. I started on Phase 1 last week and took 6 of those lbs off right away. I only have 4 lbs to go to be back at goal.

I'm still overall convinced that this program works. The problem comes when you stop weighing yourself and consider "ignorance is bliss!" I still have never maintained a goal weight for a year or worn the same clothes for over a year. I usually would have been back to where I started already,but instead I am making sure I can get 10 lbs off instead of 45!

I did realize that I am a stress eater though. I had a hard day at work yesterday and went home and cheated :( and not with any good food either. That makes me mad. Anyway, back on track today and ready to lose those pesky few lbs.

Alaskaipjourney 09-14-2011 02:06 PM

Yesterday was my first day back on phase 1, it was a success. Cheers to day two, hope I can keep it up this time.

I am looking for a good protein powder, can anyone tell me what there favorite is?

hellenaHandbasket 09-14-2011 07:15 PM

I was on Ideal Protein for 8 months and lost 60lbs. The last three months of that stint I was pregnant, unknowingly, and didn't know why I couldn't loose any weight! I was just a few pounds from a goal I thought i would never hit. I really am not complaining about getting pregnant. Honestly I didn't think I could get pregnant. Now my girl is 9 months old and I gained EVERYTHING back and then some. I'm trying to get on the diet again but there is always something going on or some reason to cheat. Plus a 400 dollar electric bill for 3 months running makes the diet out of reach. I want to loose the weight again to keep up with my kiddo. It just seems like my will power vanished. I feel weak! HELP! :?:

Purrfect 09-14-2011 09:40 PM

I think this is a more common problem when you've had alot of issues in life you have used food to solve.
I am back op after three weeks off, and it's hard. But, the payoff from hard work has always been worth it, no matter what you do. the honesty here is beautiful and supportive.
I like the thought of keeping mindset that you are more or less, always "oP" for life. Not so bad, phase four is pretty yummy.

Linden 09-15-2011 05:51 AM

I so much wanted to check in here but my internet connection has been down for 3 1/2 days. That added to a borrowed 6-year old Mac with a German key board = frustration personified. So I got my IP substitute whey powder on the 6th and started back on the 7th. Down 8.2 pounds. Life is sweet. Ur, sorry for the tasteless choice of words. It has to be attributable to the walking, four to seven miles a day. The latter, though was unintentional. I just didn't realize until I got home how far I'd gone on our third walk of the day. And maybe I should qualify "walk". Some of it was more like an intermittent stroll governed by the pace of the pup who's turning into a scent hound who has to test the odor of every new fall leaf plus other unmentionables.

How's your new puppy doing, Carla?

janedocmom 09-15-2011 10:19 AM

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from Aunt Shesie[INDENT]What Are You Afraid Of?
by Caroline Radway

Do you find that no matter how ‘good’ your intentions are to get healthy and fit, that you can’t seem to prevent yourself from messing it all up at a critical moment?

Do you seem on autopilot when it comes to some of your less productive habits, resulting in self-sabotage that stop you from reaching those goals you were so dedicated to just a short while earlier?

There are always deeper things involved, so rather than getting further into that cycle of self-sabotage – guilt – denial – self sabotage why not think about things a little differently?

Our sabotaging behaviours, the mindset that triggers them and the overweightness that result can all stem from fear.

The patterns of behaviour are a comfort to us in times of need, they serve a purpose, even if its a misguided one, there are positives to be seen and recognised rather than just blaming. Subconsciously we are protecting ourselves from perceived threat – whatever that may be.

The resulting layer of unwanted fat is also protection – from unwanted attention perhaps, if there has been history of traumatic experience, but also it is often more universal and self-propagating – it is a way of hiding the light we have to shine, for fear that we are not good enough to shine it!
Thank you so much Aunt Shesie. This was exactly what I needed to read today. I had recommitted to restarting last Monday and was doing great and feeling great being back on Phase 1 until yesterday. With long work hours and a dinner meeting on Tuesday followed by an all day conference (with delicious food!) and only 5 hours sleep, I stayed on program until last night. I was exhausted and grabbed for the old familiar "comfort" foods and totally binged, yet again! This morning I was feeling "eaters" remorse.......again and was totally discouraged, but your quote really helped me drop the remorse and recommit. As a binge eater, I do believe that eating is an emotional crutch and is preventing me for being all that I can be. Thank you for always providing such insightful and thought provoking exerpts. Today is a new day and my past does not have to permanently predict my future. Thank you, Aunt Shesie!

Also, Darbs, I totally agree with you regarding body image and the difficulty of Phase 4. This is truly a journey of self discovery. The journey is complicated because of how integral food is in our socializing. We are constantly challenged and tempted by our environment and we have to keep our eyes on the prize.

For all of you who have restarted, I wish you the stregth to continue to make the appropriate choices. It truly is a meal by meal commitment.

For all of you who are slightly "derailed", you can do it, you have done it in the past and today is a new day to recommit. Do not let your past define your future.

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

esammy12 09-16-2011 02:34 AM

Well, I'm officially no longer a lurker. I've been back OP for a week and am down 6 lbs. Yay. I was on the program for 2 months back in January, February then left my coach because she was intolerable. I had a hard time staying on program and trying to get my products online, anyway, I managed to maintain for a while then my best friend was killed in a boating accident and two days later I had to put my dog to sleep. It's been a very difficult summer and I simply did not want to deny myself. So I didn't. I packed all of the weight back plus 10 lbs. I have to say that I gained that weight back so fast it was astonishing. I absolutely freaked out - I have never gained weight so fast. So - I am finally recommitted and the first week is behind me. Not too bad, headache the first day, some fatigue today, but I've been on my treadmill every night and I am back in the groove that I found before. I'm a diabetic, so in some ways, having food that I don't have to worry about - that just fuels me and doesn't stress my vascular system - is such a luxury. I can have salty crispy flavors, and chocolate flavors and they're all safe to eat. I'm truly grateful for the peace of mind that gives me. This time, I'm going to follow it through. This time I'm focusing on my BMI - not my weight, and I'm not counting the weeks shooting for "on this day I'll weigh THIS". I'm just doing the program every day, finding as much enjoyment from the lack of heartburn, and lowered blood sugar levels and that's enough. I'm so glad to be back among you all.

esammy12 09-16-2011 02:36 AM

I have GOT to figure out how to make my picture SMALLER!!

darbs7 09-16-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by esammy12 (Post 4034787)
Well, I'm officially no longer a lurker. I've been back OP for a week and am down 6 lbs. Yay. I was on the program for 2 months back in January, February then left my coach because she was intolerable. I had a hard time staying on program and trying to get my products online, anyway, I managed to maintain for a while then my best friend was killed in a boating accident and two days later I had to put my dog to sleep. It's been a very difficult summer and I simply did not want to deny myself. So I didn't. I packed all of the weight back plus 10 lbs. I have to say that I gained that weight back so fast it was astonishing. I absolutely freaked out - I have never gained weight so fast. So - I am finally recommitted and the first week is behind me. Not too bad, headache the first day, some fatigue today, but I've been on my treadmill every night and I am back in the groove that I found before. I'm a diabetic, so in some ways, having food that I don't have to worry about - that just fuels me and doesn't stress my vascular system - is such a luxury. I can have salty crispy flavors, and chocolate flavors and they're all safe to eat. I'm truly grateful for the peace of mind that gives me. This time, I'm going to follow it through. This time I'm focusing on my BMI - not my weight, and I'm not counting the weeks shooting for "on this day I'll weigh THIS". I'm just doing the program every day, finding as much enjoyment from the lack of heartburn, and lowered blood sugar levels and that's enough. I'm so glad to be back among you all.


Don't worry about making the picture smaller....it is a lovely picture.

So sorry about your losses....dust yourself off and grab your bootstraps and get this done.

darbs7 09-16-2011 08:09 AM

Okay so I have 12 days gone and no cheating. I am down 9 pounds...yippppeee.

Fridays are tough....I want to go out to a nice dinner and have a glass of wine....but I will fight this urge....3 more weekends of will-power...then back to maintenance until January....this is a journey.

Pxlkitty4 09-16-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4034949)
Okay so I have 12 days gone and no cheating. I am down 9 pounds...yippppeee.

Fridays are tough....I want to go out to a nice dinner and have a glass of wine....but I will fight this urge....3 more weekends of will-power...then back to maintenance until January....this is a journey.

You can do it, Darbs!! Still go out for a nice dinner, but skip the wine and tell yourself that you'll be a much nicer glass in a month. I used to do that all the time and it helped me get through. I "saved" my money and then we got a great bottle of champagne for our anniversary (well, 1/2 bottle)... I had a whopping 1/2 glass, but enjoyed every sip.

darbs7 09-16-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pxlkitty4 (Post 4035000)
You can do it, Darbs!! Still go out for a nice dinner, but skip the wine and tell yourself that you'll be a much nicer glass in a month. I used to do that all the time and it helped me get through. I "saved" my money and then we got a great bottle of champagne for our anniversary (well, 1/2 bottle)... I had a whopping 1/2 glass, but enjoyed every sip.

I definately know that...but it is HARD...especially after 3 months on maintenance and now that I am wearing a size 6 in every designer I have tried on.....if the scale was just a better number I could be happier. Love the size though....this morning size 6 pants...size 0 top from Chico's and a small cardigan from NY and Company....alll loosey goosey....wow this is great! That is what will stop me from having that glass of wine.

Pxlkitty4 09-16-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4035041)
I definately know that...but it is HARD...especially after 3 months on maintenance and now that I am wearing a size 6 in every designer I have tried on.....if the scale was just a better number I could be happier. Love the size though....this morning size 6 pants...size 0 top from Chico's and a small cardigan from NY and Company....alll loosey goosey....wow this is great! That is what will stop me from having that glass of wine.

Are you still exercising? I know you were. I think you've got a lot of muscle mass (more than me, for sure!) and that is part of what the scale is reflecting... Try not to focus completely on the scale. I know that is harder said than done, and I also know that you aren't fixated on it.

I wish I were a small in cardigans. I'm a 6 in most sizes on the bottom, but 8 in some still and M or L in tops because of my chest. I'll take it, though.

Speaking of the scale, I stepped on this morning and it said 145.0... I really can't believe it. It's completely surreal... I still have some fat to lose around my abs and love handles and inner thighs, but hopefully that will even out on the scale when I keep building muscle.

Momto2cs 09-16-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4035041)
I definately know that...but it is HARD...especially after 3 months on maintenance and now that I am wearing a size 6 in every designer I have tried on.....if the scale was just a better number I could be happier. Love the size though....this morning size 6 pants...size 0 top from Chico's and a small cardigan from NY and Company....alll loosey goosey....wow this is great! That is what will stop me from having that glass of wine.

I hear you! I really want to get down 5 more pounds, but clothes size-wise I am pretty satisfied. I have a lot of muscle mass...but I don't want to use that as an excuse not to get back to where I was!

ash825 09-16-2011 11:19 AM

I've enjoyed reading all the re-starters. Who knew there were so many "issues" outside of just losing the weight. I have a lot of mental things that hold me back, I believe. I'm a big emotional and fatigue eater. My coach told me that I need to put myself to bed like a kid, even if I don't want to. I didn't listen last night and had a low carb tortilla with melted jack cheese, a large spoon of peanut butter and a string cheese. Not world stoppers but definitely not phase 1. I'm happy that, since Monday, I'm down 5 lbs. My personal goal today (sometimes I can only take it a day at a time!) is to drink loads of water and a perfect phase 1. My lowest was 172 in July, I heffed up to 187 and now back to 182. Can't wait to see "17_" again. This weekend, I hope. Which, can I echo Darbs, Fridays and weekends are HARD. Here's to iron clad willpower.

iowahawkeyemom 09-16-2011 12:28 PM

Eye opener today. I have been trying to get my health insurance cost down. I was on a special policy with high rates because of blood pressure, weight, and high blood sugar. My agent had me reapply since I no longer take any medications and all are within normal limits since losing some weight. Insurance company denied me normal coverage again. I am so mad. My premium for myself is 650.00 a month with a 2000. deductible per year. NOW I am focused to lose more weight and keep it off just so I can show that darn insurance company!

amaliayosa 09-16-2011 06:11 PM

I lost the seven pounds i gained last week while on holiday PLUS lost one more :) 9 to go!

jupiter 09-16-2011 09:17 PM

Just wondering - do the people that are restarting to lose 10 lbs have to go through all the phases?

LAShutterbug 09-17-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by darbs7 (Post 4035194)
I have always been dense....even as a tiny cheerleader in high school I weighed in the 140's....not an ounce of fat anywhere then. I am shooting for around 150-155 and then I will take a break and see how I feel.

Congrats on the 145...awesome...that would be the ultimate weight goal for me....maybe I will try again in January for around 142 or so.

Bottoms I am 100% in size 6 at this point...tops....either a small or medium (depending on the cut)....dresses size 6 or 8 unless it is a zip up fitted dress and then I need an 8 or a 10 even (weird). It is all about where we carry our weight or how we are structured.

I have small hips and broader shoulders...my chest is the smallest it has been in my adult life but still a C cup (with a little space in the cups)

I am amazed with size 6. I am around same height and weight and can't get below a 12. Hoping if I get 10 lbs off I can do size 10 but I'm sure that might be a low for me. Shoulders are broad as well as hips. My main thing is a healthy BMI and lower fat.

Momto2cs 09-17-2011 09:58 AM

I am 5'8" and hovering around 150

I wear a 6 pant and a small top. 34b

Although I will never fit skinny jeans/pants as I carry most of my weight in my legs!!!!

I can sometimes wear a gap 4, but I would need to be closer to 145 to be comfortable...

I exercise regularly and at my clinic my bf is under 20%, but those scales can be inaccurate...

Linden 09-17-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jupiter (Post 4035807)
Just wondering - do the people that are restarting to lose 10 lbs have to go through all the phases?

Yes.

kbkwright 09-18-2011 05:47 PM

Thank you!
 
Thank you for this thread! I started IP last January. I was on it for three months and lost almost 30 pounds. I got off becauase I kept making excuse after excuse and where have those excuses got me? Weighing two pounds more then when I started IP in the first place. That is what eating whatever you feel like and not exercising will do you.....who knew, right?! Ha! I feel so discusting and I am ready to make the change. I am starting tomorrow morning! Veggies....check, IP/Lindora Product.....check, Online Motivation....check, Optimistic Attitude.....double check!! I am looking forward to hearing everyones continued advice and motivation. :)

Linden 09-19-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kbkwright (Post 4037594)
Thank you for this thread! I started IP last January. I was on it for three months and lost almost 30 pounds. I got off becauase I kept making excuse after excuse and where have those excuses got me? Weighing two pounds more then when I started IP in the first place. That is what eating whatever you feel like and not exercising will do you.....who knew, right?! Ha! I feel so discusting and I am ready to make the change. I am starting tomorrow morning! Veggies....check, IP/Lindora Product.....check, Online Motivation....check, Optimistic Attitude.....double check!! I am looking forward to hearing everyones continued advice and motivation. :)

I don't have any advice and it sounds as though you have the motivation, but an observation? I'm finding this easier than the first time, and less pressured,
a bit more natural. I hope that helps.

Edit: I realize I should also have mentioned that I'm walking 3-5 or a little more miles a day.

kaarin 09-19-2011 09:19 AM

Well, I'm happy that it's the start of a new week and we can put last week into the history books and forget about it! The first couple of days went well, but then I fell of the band wagon with a thud! :( Oh well, no more events, parties or other distractions planned for several weeks, so I am starting again. I did manage to lose 2 lbs last week regardless, so looking forward to what I can achieve this week. Wish me luck! :D

iowahawkeyemom 09-19-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kaarin (Post 4038389)
Well, I'm happy that it's the start of a new week and we can put last week into the history books and forget about it! The first couple of days went well, but then I fell of the band wagon with a thud! :( Oh well, no more events, parties or other distractions planned for several weeks, so I am starting again. I did manage to lose 2 lbs last week regardless, so looking forward to what I can achieve this week. Wish me luck! :D

Same thing here Kaarin. I've got to learn to forget about last week and keep plugging away at this. I just can't get into IP this time around like I did the first time. Some days I'm so positive about it and others I'm like who cares.

Yesterday I went shopping for some dress clothes. I had to go up a size from last winter and got so mad at myself for allowing the extra pounds to creep back on. I was in such a bad mood by the time I got home, I think my husband was scared to talk to me. I feel so fat right now it's all I can think about. I wish there was a switch on my brain to put me in the diet zone, but there isn't. I've got to want it bad enough to actually get it done. I really think it's all a mind thing. I thought of a saying the other day. Maybe I read it on here. "Eat to live, not live to eat."

janedocmom 09-19-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kaarin (Post 4038389)
Well, I'm happy that it's the start of a new week and we can put last week into the history books and forget about it! The first couple of days went well, but then I fell of the band wagon with a thud! :( Oh well, no more events, parties or other distractions planned for several weeks, so I am starting again. I did manage to lose 2 lbs last week regardless, so looking forward to what I can achieve this week. Wish me luck! :D

Oh kaarin I am exactly where you are at. I was so committed for the beginning of the week and lost my resolve by the weekend that I didn't even care what I was eating and was in total abandoment eating everything that I have been depriving myself. On Thursday I am leaving for California for a much needed vacation and I can't get into any of my new clothes. I am recommitting to a new IP week. It is total craziness when I know that the program works yet choose to sabotage myself. I wish you and everyone else who wants it luck. :hug:

darbs7 09-19-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kaarin (Post 4038389)
Well, I'm happy that it's the start of a new week and we can put last week into the history books and forget about it! The first couple of days went well, but then I fell of the band wagon with a thud! :( Oh well, no more events, parties or other distractions planned for several weeks, so I am starting again. I did manage to lose 2 lbs last week regardless, so looking forward to what I can achieve this week. Wish me luck! :D

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Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom (Post 4038644)
Same thing here Kaarin. I've got to learn to forget about last week and keep plugging away at this. I just can't get into IP this time around like I did the first time. Some days I'm so positive about it and others I'm like who cares.

Yesterday I went shopping for some dress clothes. I had to go up a size from last winter and got so mad at myself for allowing the extra pounds to creep back on. I was in such a bad mood by the time I got home, I think my husband was scared to talk to me. I feel so fat right now it's all I can think about. I wish there was a switch on my brain to put me in the diet zone, but there isn't. I've got to want it bad enough to actually get it done. I really think it's all a mind thing. I thought of a saying the other day. Maybe I read it on here. "Eat to live, not live to eat."

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Originally Posted by janedocmom (Post 4038814)
Oh kaarin I am exactly where you are at. I was so committed for the beginning of the week and lost my resolve by the weekend that I didn't even care what I was eating and was in total abandoment eating everything that I have been depriving myself. On Thursday I am leaving for California for a much needed vacation and I can't get into any of my new clothes. I am recommitting to a new IP week. It is total craziness when I know that the program works yet choose to sabotage myself. I wish you and everyone else who wants it luck. :hug:

I know this sounds nuts, but I am in the same boat and here is the plan I have devised:

I will be 100% IP phase 1 Sunday-Saturday at noon. I will take Saturday from 2pm to 10pm off in moderation....I will eat more Atkins for the afternoon and night and I will treat myself to some wine or martinis. I know this isn't perfect and it will slow me down, but I feel like if I have a plan in place that I won't make quick last minute destroying decisions. It is all I can do at this point and I hope it helps me lose at least a pound a week. Good luck to all of us.

jorae 09-20-2011 06:59 PM

Hello everyone! I just went to the spa and bought my IP products for the week. I was OP from may-aug and lost about 25 lbs. I went off because I needed a change, but when I went off I went straight back to how I had been eating before now here I am about 5lbs up, headaches and stomach aches all the time, feeling tired and just icky. I miss how I felt on plan so here I go again. I can't wait to feel as great as I did op. Good luck to everyone on our journeys... Again.

esammy12 09-21-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kbkwright (Post 4037594)
Thank you for this thread! I started IP last January. I was on it for three months and lost almost 30 pounds. I got off becauase I kept making excuse after excuse and where have those excuses got me? Weighing two pounds more then when I started IP in the first place. That is what eating whatever you feel like and not exercising will do you.....who knew, right?! Ha! I feel so discusting and I am ready to make the change. I am starting tomorrow morning! Veggies....check, IP/Lindora Product.....check, Online Motivation....check, Optimistic Attitude.....double check!! I am looking forward to hearing everyones continued advice and motivation. :)

This is almost exactly my story. I'm finding it harder to lose weight this time though and the thing that frightens me about this program is how quickly I gain weight back. I lost 20 lbs in 2 months and gained 30 lbs back in 6 weeks - just eating normally. I'm a diabetic so I don't drink, or eat many carbohydrates anyway, so by just going back to a regular diet, not binging by any means, I could gain that much weight back so quickly - scares me. I lost 6 lbs last week, and then had 2 salads w/ cheese on Monday, and 4 cookies yesterday (definitely off program but I was on jury duty and stressed a bit) and today I've gained back almost all 6 lbs. In two days. That part just truly frightens me. Now, I'm hypothyroid, have no gallbladder and am Type II diabetic, so I am a little bit more complicated and metabolically/insulin challenged, but still. Oh well. Back to square on today.
When will I learn this lesson for the last time...

Aunt Sheshie 09-21-2011 06:49 PM

I came across this post in the Exercise Forum of 3FC (not our Exercise thread) & thought it made some good points... she starts out talking about exercise, but the part that impressed me was what she said about bingeing... I can so identify with that blaze of glory!.. obviously, she's not doing IP, but I think her wisdom is worth sharing...

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Originally Posted by kaplods (Post 4039242)
Most people can't lose weight from exercise alone, because increasing exercise tends to also increase hunger. Without conscious effort, most people end up adding enough extra calories to compensate for the extra exercise.

That doesn't mean you can't do it, just that it's not likely.

My husband was very opposed to dieting for weight loss. When we were first married, he thought he could exercise his weight off. We joined the gym, and he was doing 3 hour workouts (and he had a very strenuous job).

He got fitter, but no weight came off. He was extremely discouraged, but once he started counting calories, he started realizing why the exercise alone wasn't working. Some of his favorite healthy, after-exercise snacks (like sunflower seeds) were the calorie equivalent of a huge meal.


When I started this particular journey (that has since netted me about 94 lbs lost), I didn't have a food plan. My plan was to make better food choices, and add in activity (I was so disabled, calling it exercise would be misleading).

I did make some important health strides, but I didn't lose weight. In fact, two years of healthy changes and I didn't lose a single pound during that time. Now weight loss wasn't my only or even primary goal. In fact, I decided that I was going to make changes that I was willing to commit to and continue with even if no weight loss resulted. And for two years, no weight loss resulted (I did get stronger and fitter, but I did not get thinner).

To lose weight, I had to have a food plan. Even so, I didn't look at it as a written-in-stone, do or binge diet (we're taught to diet this way, so when we follow the ineffective pattern it's not because we're stupid, it's because it's how we've seen it done - often the only way we've seen it done).

To lose weight, we need to break the traditional pattern, we have to find a new way.

That doesn't mean you have to have a formal diet plan, but you also don't have to decide that followng a plan less than perfectly is justification or trigger for a binge.

It's a hard habit to break, because it's practically diet-law. It's how dieting is done in our culture - perfection or dismal failure. If you're going to make a mistake, make it a big blaze-of-glory disaster.

As I've said many times, if dieting were mountain climbing, we wouldn't survive it, because the "appropriate response" to a stumble would be throwing ourselves off the nearest cliff so we could "start fresh tomorrow."

Many of us are killing ourselves because of our need to turn small mistakes into blazing-glory disasters.

I've dieted for 40 years, since kindergarten, and most of my life, I would have a very difficult time sticking to a food plan without all of the feelings you - getting discouraged and frustrated and ending up bingeing.

But it wasn't because I was stupid, it's how we're taught to diet. We're just doing what we see being done (we all know that "do as I say, not as I do" doesn't work. People learn to do what they see being done - even if everyone's lips are saying "don't do it this way.")

We have to find a different way to act and usually think (and that's not so easy).

I learned that the problem wasn't with my food plan, it was my reaction to it, and that mistakes didn't have to be become flaming disasters.

When I realized there was no blowing it. That being imperfect didn't mean that I should really screw it up as badly as I possibly could in order to "start fresh."

I still make huge mistakes with my food plan, I just don't stress about it. I'm much more ok with "good enough." I don't have to be perfect, I just have to do better. I remind there is no starting over, there's only moving on.

I also have declared dieting a no-guilt zone. I remind myself that short of becoming a cannibal, there's no way that food can make me "bad." Food can make me fatter, but it can't make me useless, worthless, or evil.

Having a food plan isn't bad either (and not being able to stick perfectly to it, isn't bad either). It's like a grocery list or to do list - a tool to make your life easier, not a test of your worth as a human being. And as long as you see and use it as a tool - there is no reason to punish or console yourself if you don't adhere to it perfectly.

I follow an exchange plan, but I don't see it as "written-in-stone" law". It's a guideline, and if I'm hungrier I'll eat a little more and write it down (reminding myself that eating more isn't "failure" it's just reality some times). Some days I eat all my exchanges in the quantities I've set as my goals, sometimes I'll eat less, sometimes I'll eat more. Some times I'll get in all my dairy servings, sometimes I won't.

They're guidelines, and nothing more. I don't have to stress over imperfection - that's something I chose to do. And choosing it was counterproductive. I didn't have to change the food plan, I had to change what the food plan meant to me. I had to change my reaction to it.

I'm not "bad" if I'm not perfectly on plan, but having a plan (even if I'm a little off) works better than having no plan. When I have no plan, I tend to go on food (and calorie) binges. If I have a plan that I feel must be done perfectly (and if it can't be done perfectly, should be done perfectly horribly by going on a binge so extreme it would more truly described as a bender).


I truly believe that guilt in response to perceived imperfection is enemy #1 to weight loss. If you can banish the guilt and the need for perfection, you will have cut your work and stress by 90%.

hugs :hug:

iowahawkeyemom 09-22-2011 09:44 AM

Great article AuntSheshie. I think we can all relate to it. I know I let a small slip turn into a giant fall. Then I beat myself up and feel like throwing in the towel. It's a marathon for life, not a 100 meter race for today isn't it?

ESammy, I had wondered how you were doing. Nice to see you back but wish we were all in the maintainers chat instead of this one.

I keep restarting and making it a few days then wham, I'm off again. Maybe we all need a kick in the fanny so we can all get back into focus for IP. Where's Novak when we need her? She was so good about telling us how it is.

We all know that if we follow the plan, we will lose the weight and if we accept the lifestyle of eating changes, we will keep it off. That's something I need to say over and over again to myself. Do I want this or not? Am I tired of being over weight? Do I like being over weight? Am I tired of my pants being so tight around the waist that I unbutton them while in the car? Well then, what am I gonna do about it. Cry in my coffee or get my butt going? I'm tired of the weight. I'm tired of having food control me. I'm tired of being tired.

I'm challenging myself and anyone else who wants to join me, starting Monday (so I can get my mind into this), that I will stay on program to the bitter end. I will check in everyday starting Monday and post my loyalty to IP and hope others will join me. I know that together we WILL DO THIS! My pledge to myself is to be at goal by Christmas. I know I can do this. IP does work. One day at a time soon turns into a lifetime pattern.

Who's joining me? Who's also tired of being tired? Let's pump each other up and do this!

deelee10 09-22-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom (Post 4042737)
Great article AuntSheshie. I think we can all relate to it. I know I let a small slip turn into a giant fall. Then I beat myself up and feel like throwing in the towel. It's a marathon for life, not a 100 meter race for today isn't it?

ESammy, I had wondered how you were doing. Nice to see you back but wish we were all in the maintainers chat instead of this one.

I keep restarting and making it a few days then wham, I'm off again. Maybe we all need a kick in the fanny so we can all get back into focus for IP. Where's Novak when we need her? She was so good about telling us how it is.

We all know that if we follow the plan, we will lose the weight and if we accept the lifestyle of eating changes, we will keep it off. That's something I need to say over and over again to myself. Do I want this or not? Am I tired of being over weight? Do I like being over weight? Am I tired of my pants being so tight around the waist that I unbutton them while in the car? Well then, what am I gonna do about it. Cry in my coffee or get my butt going? I'm tired of the weight. I'm tired of having food control me. I'm tired of being tired.

I'm challenging myself and anyone else who wants to join me, starting Monday (so I can get my mind into this), that I will stay on program to the bitter end. I will check in everyday starting Monday and post my loyalty to IP and hope others will join me. I know that together we WILL DO THIS! My pledge to myself is to be at goal by Christmas. I know I can do this. IP does work. One day at a time soon turns into a lifetime pattern.

Who's joining me? Who's also tired of being tired? Let's pump each other up and do this!

I'm with you! I need major pumping. You are so right - we know it works when we can stick to it. I've regained 10 lbs. I'm going on a cruise on October 15. It is not tropical (Boston to Canada) so at least I don't have to put on a swim suit. I've been doing exactly what you have - except I can't even manage to stay on for 2 days. Honestly, I can't even make it through a full day. It's that night time treat that I want. And I want a lot of it. So let's do it! You've got me excited! Question, if we're doing Phase I - do we go back to no exercise?

FinnSteven 09-22-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by deelee10 (Post 4043114)
Honestly, I can't even make it through a full day. It's that night time treat that I want. And I want a lot of it.

I've found that my most horrible cravings come after 9pm. (I can push them back with hot and iced tea til then.) So if I go to bed 9-9.30 I am fine. If I stay up later, its much harder. (Munching on Dill Pickles also helps fight off obsessive thoughts of hunger)

So maybe the solution is to give up on nighttime tv, internet, reading, etc and force yourself to go to bed early for a full week to retrain your body and break old habits.

deelee10 09-22-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnSteven (Post 4043139)
I've found that my most horrible cravings come after 9pm. (I can push them back with hot and iced tea til then.) So if I go to bed 9-9.30 I am fine. If I stay up later, its much harder. (Munching on Dill Pickles also helps fight off obsessive thoughts of hunger)

So maybe the solution is to give up on nighttime tv, internet, reading, etc and force yourself to go to bed early for a full week to retrain your body and break old habits.

Thanks for tip Finn. I forgot about the dill pickles. They are very helpful. I have to make a more concerted effort. Perhaps when I am feeling that craving I'll grab a dill pickle, come on 3fc and read some inspiring posts! I remember when I was OP in April I was at a great party, confronted by amazing goodies. I had my I phone so I went on line, wrote a post to 3fc. Just composing the post helped me through. I have to plan on how I'm going to get through those tough times. Think I've got one now.


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