Originally Posted by esammy12:
This is the part of this diet that I find frustrating. When else in your life have you ever gained 13 lbs. in 2 weeks? It's extraordinary. It's bizarre to me. I know we lose weight quickly, but maybe if you don't lose it so fast, it won't come back on so fast??? I don't know. It kind of freaks me out.

Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom:
This bothers me too. I think I'll go over to the maintainers thread and see how everyone is doing there. I just hope when I hit my goal, I will have changed my eating habits and adjusted to eating this style for life.

Originally Posted by amaliayosa:
Freaks me out too, especially since the first week I hardly even ate so I gained most of it the second week. All I could stomach for a week was saltiness and Ginger ale. I am very discouraged. Not sure what I'm going to do, so fed up with this vicious cycle.

Originally Posted by Linden:
I'm really sorry about the gain, and the surgery. But you didn't gain back 13 pounds of fat, right? Did you phase off correctly. Sorry, I can't remember. Still, I really don't think you have a lot of reasons to be discouraged because you're going to lose a lot of fluid once you're back on the program. And when you get back to where you were you'll know that you can't eat "horribly", right?

I guess the broader issue, and what set me off, is that you've opened an opportunity for people to question the effectiveness of the IP Program. The way I see it is that when I screw up, it was I who screwed up, and believe me, I can do that with the best of you. So I speak with authority. :D

I have to agree with Linden here... this program teaches you how to approach food in specific combinations in order to 1) lose weight (phases 1-2), and then 2) maintain a healthy weight (phases 3 and 4). If you ignore all that you have learned, don't blame the diet...

Here is some good info that I picked up from reading the original "maintenance" thread that Novak and others had going a long time ago. This is part of a sticky now, but I think it's good for everyone here to read this...

Originally Posted by :
"I follow the general maintenance (Phase 4) guidance: go out and enjoy your life in your new body. I have the protocol on my refrigerator and the basics in my head, but I don’t stress if I don’t do everything exactly as written on the paper. Rather, I try to eat healthy, eat only until I am satisfied, separate the fat and carbs, get in protein 4 times a day, consume my carbs at dinner rather than lunch, and incorporate a cheat/recovery cycle each week. I consider myself to still be in learning mode, and adjusting to how differently my body responds to food now."

I weigh myself daily now, knowing that I am in the learning phase of maintenance. It's up to ME each and EVERY day to figure out what my body is comfortable with. There are fewer rules, but that is by design. The diet as a way of life would definitely fail if it were as restrictive in maintenace as it is in Phases 1 and 2...

See my signature for how I feel about this diet. This diet is freedom from the weight issues of the past, but you have to follow it (in all phases) and LET IT!

Originally Posted by faith27:
Yea ~~ it's usually a brand new poland spring bottle, or I pour some water into the bottle before the powder because I've had it stick to the bottom of the bottle too many times lol.

What does RTD stand for?? I'm on a tight budget and considering purchasing the alternatives that other members were nice enough to share on the other thread, after I finish up the IP supplies. I've been eating Balance bars in place of the IP bars already and they didn't affect my diet at all the first time around. I was pleased that the Balance bars actually came out with a new caramel nut blaster flavor that tastes exactly like the IP caramel bars.

RTD is Ready to Drink that I buy through IP. The chocolate, vanilla, and mango. I really like the mango. I always keep one in the car just in case I am gone from home too long. Along with a ziplock baggy of single serve packages of Walton Farms salad dressing. Just in case:)

Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom:
RTD is Ready to Drink that I buy through IP. The chocolate, vanilla, and mango. I really like the mango. I always keep one in the car just in case I am gone from home too long. Along with a ziplock baggy of single serve packages of Walton Farms salad dressing. Just in case:)

Oh!! I know!! Like the juice boxes, lol. I liked those, they were really convenient, but I always felt like I was still hungry afterwards, so I thought by using the powdered version, I could stretch out the drinks and fool myself into thinking I was eating more :D :dizzy:

Faith, do you ever use a shaker with a blender ball? It's a little wire ball that acts as a whisk inside the shaker. I don't know how well these packets would mix without it. A lot of us use the one we got when we started the program, but they sell them at Bed, Bath & Beyond and health food stores. Or, as was said, a lot of people put it in a blender or bullet with water and ice.

Originally Posted by faith27:
Oh!! I know!! Like the juice boxes, lol. I liked those, they were really convenient, but I always felt like I was still hungry afterwards, so I thought by using the powdered version, I could stretch out the drinks and fool myself into thinking I was eating more :D :dizzy:

I always mix my chocolate RTD with an equal amount of seltzer water. It tastes like a chocolate soda and is much more filling. I know some coaches say no carbonated water but my coach said it was OK. It did not affect my weight loss.

Oh I still believe in the program and am certainly not throwing in the towel! I've already lost 6 of the pounds I gained . No I didn't phase off because I fly intended on staying op, just wasn't prepared for the post surgery nausea to hit so hard and crackers and Ginger ale were my friends. Also wasn't expecting the pain meds to cloud my judgement like they did! I was just shocked by the huge gain! I have tried so many diets over the years and really hope this plan works for me long term. Plugging along here :)

Starting this plan after a huge gain has been difficult for me. I was on this plan for 7 months without one cheat (I lost 120 pounds). When I stalled out from exercising I tried "it" my way and gained 30 pounds back quickly. It has been horrible to try and get back on the plan. I would follow it for a few days, rarely more than 4, lose weight and relapse. I always gained 10 - 12 pounds within the first two days off. The yo-yo of going on and off could not have been very satisfying for my body and certainly not for my mind. I finally figured out that the only thing I was doing differently was not logging in to this forum. Now that I have, I feel like I have got the magic again. I just want to thank everyone for being here with all of the encouragement and information as you have always been. This is only my third day, but I feel totally different from when I was out there "alone". I have a closet full of size 8's that I cannot wear and I plan on being in them again soon. I will do this today and try to remember that I only have to do this one day at a time.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by amaliayosa:
Also wasn't expecting the pain meds to cloud my judgement like they did! I was just shocked by the huge gain! I have tried so many diets over the years and really hope this plan works for me long term. Plugging along here :)

BINGO! Pain killers can be your/my worst enemies. Not only because of the fog, and lowered resistance, but they actually contribute to weight gain in and of themselves, some of them, and the chemistry of others make it very, very difficult to lose. Mode modifying medications ditto. I hope you're feeling a whole lot better. Maybe it's nice to know that you aren't the "fault"?

Originally Posted by rosemary2612:
This is only my third day, but I feel totally different from when I was out there "alone". I have a closet full of size 8's that I cannot wear and I plan on being in them again soon. I will do this today and try to remember that I only have to do this one day at a time.

Hi, it's really nice to see you again, or your avatar rather.

So now that I've gone back to see if you had pictures and that you looked like I remembered. Your before picture cracks me up (again) and the after is pretty d--m good. I hope day three goes really well. It's easy-peasy after that, right? Please pardon my exaggeration -- for effect, you know.

Originally Posted by Linden:
BINGO! Pain killers can be your/my worst enemies. Not only because of the fog, and lowered resistance, but they actually contribute to weight gain in and of themselves, some of them, and the chemistry of others make it very, very difficult to lose. Mode modifying medications ditto. I hope you're feeling a whole lot better. Maybe it's nice to know that you aren't the "fault"?

Hmmm, I'm doing some thinking here.......Would over the counter pain meds like advil slow weight loss too? I can't blame them for my gain since I was eating off plan, but last December I started to have back pain like no other and I was put on celebrex but stopped taking it because of the labels warnings for stoke, but started taking advil for arthritis of the spine. Wondering if I just need to stop taking it and buck up to the pain. It's not horrible but there are days I hurt. I also found out during a MRI of the spine I have two large kidney cysts and I know pain meds can cause kidney problems. After additional ultra sound and kidney function tests, I was told they are simple cysts (which are the good ones if you're going to have them). Also was told over 50 % of people over 50 have them but most don't know it until they have tests done for something else.

Enough about my old body, but thinking maybe I need to just start moving my body more and knock it off with the meds. Yesterday for some reason, I started thinking a lot differently about staying loyal to plan. It was like I finally got my mind wrapped around it again. It didn't seem like punishment to be on plan, but that I actually wanted to do IP and be thin and healthy for life. I've got a list of reasons why I want it, and they all out weigh that fattening food I was putting in my mouth for a moment of statisfaction.

Everyone have a great day.

Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom:
Would over the counter pain meds like advil slow weight loss too?

Enough about my old body, but thinking maybe I need to just start moving my body more and knock it off with the meds.

Well, speaking from an even older body :D it's my understanding that all analgesics/pain medicine/etc. have that effect it's just that OTCs in moderation have a lesser effect. But I'd have to do a lot of Googling to make sure, both here and generally. And my back's starting to spasm so I need to get up and move. :D:D

Seriously, though, when my son read my Living Will several years ago he said Boy, if people don't understand how you feel about pain they don't speak English. But don't go cold turkey, either, and remember that pain medication has an accumulative effect and it takes a while to get the meds out of your system. I actually tried to do without for 2 days early last week, but decided whimpering isn't my style. And I'm sure the stress threw some cortisole into my system. It's a tough juggling act. I wish us luck.

Weighing in on the painkiller discussion. After each of three wrist surgeries, I took vicodin for the massive amounts of pain and gained 10lbs each time. I don't feel like I ate very differently at all during those times... Granted I wasn't very active during these times either, but I definitely think the pain meds contributed...

Originally Posted by pink parrothead:
Faith, do you ever use a shaker with a blender ball? It's a little wire ball that acts as a whisk inside the shaker. I don't know how well these packets would mix without it. A lot of us use the one we got when we started the program, but they sell them at Bed, Bath & Beyond and health food stores. Or, as was said, a lot of people put it in a blender or bullet with water and ice.

Nope, I actually use a shaker that's meant for mixing alcoholic drinks haha. It's always worked very well for me. It still does, for everything BUT the pineapple drink packets (which is why I wonder if they're possibly spoiled). Hm, I might have to check that out, otherwise I guess I'll have to stop being lazy and pull out the blender. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Originally Posted by Linden:
Well, I re-started the program on the 7th of September and I'm down 12.2 pounds.

Ideal Program hasn't taken over my life. At the risk of sounding like Nancy Reagan (please God, no), I've just done it. In the great scheme of things, it's really not a very difficult or complicated program.

:flow2: BRAVA, Linden!!!.. :flow2: 12.2 lbs. is wonderful!.. & you are so right, just doing it is the real secret... I just have to get it anchored in my head that something so simple can lead to so much success & STOP trying to make it more than it is...

Originally Posted by Pxlkitty4:
I weigh myself daily now

It seems that weighing on a regular basis works for most people, so I'm not going to speak against it for anybody else, but it just stresses me out... for the first 9 months I was on IP protocol, I never stepped on the scales (since I didn't have a coach to insist on it) & I got through most of that time staying on protocol just fine... the only reason I finally weighed in Feb. this year was I joined the gym & they had to weigh me for my initial evaluation... since then, I've been stressing about that blankety-blank number on the scales... so, a week ago, I decided that number can go straight to Hades, I don't care what it is!.. how I feel & how my clothes fit & how I look in the mirror after my shower are what's important...

Another realization I had yesterday... back in my "fat days" I always felt like I had to have a full tummy all the time during my waking hours... if it wasn't full, I felt like I was starving... but after I got used to IP, got into ketosis, I got used to having an empty stomach several times a day & kinda enjoyed the feeling... I definitely felt lighter & had more energy when I wasn't being weighed down by a lot of food... but in the past couple of months, I've fallen back into that thinking, that my tummy needs to be full all the time, & I've found myself snacking way too much... so, for the next week, I'm gonna be especially mindful of letting myself "go hungry" between meals... I hope that makes a world of difference...

hugs :hug:

Originally Posted by Linden:
Hi, it's really nice to see you again, or your avatar rather.

So now that I've gone back to see if you had pictures and that you looked like I remembered. Your before picture cracks me up (again) and the after is pretty d--m good. I hope day three goes really well. It's easy-peasy after that, right? Please pardon my exaggeration -- for effect, you know.

I was so happy to see you on here. There are a few people I remember. Day three is ok - I think I am in Ketosis and all I have to do is check in here twice a day and follow the "plan". It does sound easy. I can do it - I hate the thought of losing some of the same pounds I lost before, but I do what I gotta do. I am glad that you are here.:carrot::hug:

Restart, recommit......AGAIN!! Day 1
 

Originally Posted by rosemary2612:
Starting this plan after a huge gain has been difficult for me. I was on this plan for 7 months without one cheat (I lost 120 pounds). When I stalled out from exercising I tried "it" my way and gained 30 pounds back quickly. It has been horrible to try and get back on the plan. I would follow it for a few days, rarely more than 4, lose weight and relapse. I always gained 10 - 12 pounds within the first two days off. The yo-yo of going on and off could not have been very satisfying for my body and certainly not for my mind. I finally figured out that the only thing I was doing differently was not logging in to this forum. Now that I have, I feel like I have got the magic again. I just want to thank everyone for being here with all of the encouragement and information as you have always been. This is only my third day, but I feel totally different from when I was out there "alone". I have a closet full of size 8's that I cannot wear and I plan on being in them again soon. I will do this today and try to remember that I only have to do this one day at a time.

Thank you!

I am so happy that you have decided to rejoin us. I always enjoyed your posts and was so impressed with your weight loss and commitment to the IP program. I agree with you that it is so difficult to do it alone. This past week was living proof.

A week and a half ago I recommitted to IP and was doing fantastic. I felt great and was totally motivated. Having a stressful weekend and no 3FC Forum interaction, I was off on my self indulgent binges. I was so disappointed in myself and my resolve. Instead of wallowing in my carbo coma, I met up with my IP coach, weighed in and purchased IP product (ouch!). It is better to have pain in my purse than in my waistband. I had been doing alternatives, but have decided to return to what had originally worked for me.

I was especially unhappy today when I had to pick an outfit out from my pile of clothes that I had discarded because they were once too big. Tomorrow does not have to be a repeat of yesterday.

Day 1 on program and counting.

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

Originally Posted by amaliayosa:
Freaks me out too, especially since the first week I hardly even ate so I gained most of it the second week. All I could stomach for a week was saltiness and Ginger ale. I am very discouraged. Not sure what I'm going to do, so fed up with this vicious cycle.

When I read this post it really reminded me of when I had a colonoscopy last year, my weigh flucuated wildly for a few weeks. I think any medical procudure is a shock to the body and it takes a while for it to adjust. I saw on your later post that things are coming back to normal for you. Hope you are feeling great soon.


On another note, I think we need a 50+ thread. It sure is tough to lose weight post menopause.

Pat

Originally Posted by patns:
When I read this post it really reminded me of when I had a colonoscopy last year, my weigh flucuated wildly for a few weeks. I think any medical procudure is a shock to the body and it takes a while for it to adjust. I saw on your later post that things are coming back to normal for you. Hope you are feeling great soon.


On another note, I think we need a 50+ thread. It sure is tough to lose weight post menopause.

Pat

bump, bump, BUMP!!!!

Long term weight control
 

I get emails from Unjury whey protein (target market is lapband patients).
I do like their products, especially because they don't buy any Chinese ingredients. Anyway I had concluded last year that because I am "carb sensitive" I will pretty much have to eat like a lapband patient for the rest of my life. I found this interesting from the Unjury email:



1. With or without weight loss surgery (WLS), protein is the foundation of weight loss success.

2. Surgeons are good at surgery, but some of them don't know enough about nutrition and weight loss. When a surgeon says, "get back on solid foods", you have to listen closely. If that means ADD solid foods, that of course makes sense. But if that means get off the protein shakes -- that might be bad advice.

3. Many WLS patients -- some say the majority -- of patients don't reach their goal, and even more experience weight regain. We say that is unfortunate, and unnecessary. We talk to many customers every day, and the ones who use UNJURY 3 to 4 times a day during weight loss, and 2 times a day for weight maintenance, are successful at reaching their weight goal and keeping the weight off.

Weight loss success: It's worth it. You can do it.

First day back on plan......again
 

Today I contacted the our IP office to check what date my last weigh in was and what my weight was. It was 123 on May 13th. Today I weighed in at 130. I need to pull the reigns in before my weight sky rockets again. I am still considered "normal" for my BMI, but my ultimate goal really is to get to 115. The question is do I do it following IP or do it monitoring calories and exercising? IP has been so hard for me to get back on but I know that it works and that I can do it if I have the will power. In the long term it takes less time. Time to focus....what a horrible time of year to try to do this. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas!! I just know I can't go into the holidays without a plan or I'll come out in January being and felling miserable.

Originally Posted by Alaskaipjourney:
Today I contacted the our IP office to check what date my last weigh in was and what my weight was. It was 123 on May 13th. Today I weighed in at 130. I need to pull the reigns in before my weight sky rockets again. I am still considered "normal" for my BMI, but my ultimate goal really is to get to 115. The question is do I do it following IP or do it monitoring calories and exercising? IP has been so hard for me to get back on but I know that it works and that I can do it if I have the will power. In the long term it takes less time. Time to focus....what a horrible time of year to try to do this. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas!! I just know I can't go into the holidays without a plan or I'll come out in January being and felling miserable.

Feel like a little time travel? I'll bet if you go back to around the 11th of October 2010, to the Daily Chat (many, many fewer posters) you'll find people wary of the same timing. And succeeding. And I wish you great luck. You've already done so very well.

EDIT: On reflection I checked. IP daily chat 11 oct :3fatchick.com = what I Googled. So I was off a few days. But it was really interesting seeing what people were talking about. Maybe you could live in two worlds?

My day was on the "plan" and I had a mouth that tasted like something died in it, so I can safely say that I am in Ketosis. I weighed this morning, finally, and I weigh more than I thought. Just numbers, I say, and I need to keep focus. I don't think I care what I weigh as long as I can fit back into my size 8 clothes. I almost have nothing to wear and I am not buying anything. I was fanatical about getting rid of clothes that became to large. I loved packing them up and giving them away. Now that I have gained some weight back I am about naked. I bought two pairs of jeans at a garage sale last week. The End (of feeling helpless - because I am not)!

Originally Posted by patns:

On another note, I think we need a 50+ thread. It sure is tough to lose weight post menopause.

I've thought about this, too. Wondering if people would be willing to admit that they were over 50? :^::^:

But the more I thought about it the more I realized how individualized we become after 30 or 40. History of childhood diseases (especially measles = shingles, etc., etc.); trauma, both mental and physical; heredity kicking in; accidents that seemed minor at the time; degenerative and autoimmune problems; or temporal things that just happen and then have consequences. (I got hit by a bike tonight but thank goodness the puppy was OK except if he doesn't leave the nineteen year old cat alone I may cream him.)

I guess what I'm saying is that I've come to realize that as we age we become more individual then we ever (thought we) were when we were young, no matter how special and how unique we might have though ourselves or, in fact, were. :D

Still. I think it's a good idea, if it's helpful to us over 50 or more and, let's be honest, those who will get here eventually -- if they're interested.

Originally Posted by Linden:
I've thought about this, too. Wondering if people would be willing to admit that they were over 50? :^::^:

But the more I thought about it the more I realized how individualized we become after 30 or 40. History of childhood diseases (especially measles = shingles, etc., etc.); trauma, both mental and physical; heredity kicking in; accidents that seemed minor at the time; degenerative and autoimmune problems; or temporal things that just happen and then have consequences. (I got hit by a bike tonight but thank goodness the puppy was OK except if he doesn't leave the nineteen year old cat alone I may cream him.)

I guess what I'm saying is that I've come to realize that as we age we become more individual then we ever (thought we) were when we were young, no matter how special and how unique we might have though ourselves or, in fact, were. :D

Still. I think it's a good idea, if it's helpful to us over 50 or more and, let's be honest, those who will get here eventually -- if they're interested.

Count me in.

So glad you and the pup survived the bike encounter!

Day 2
 

Well, I'm checking in after another day. Today is my long day at work...about 12 hours and I always find it difficult at the end of the day when I have a ton of paperwork to catch up on. The worst part is that my office is also our lunch room so I am surrounded by food. I told everyone that I was baaaaaaaaaaack on IP and they need to hide anything they value. They have moved the "candy" drawer on me 4 times so they know when I am on the prowl, I mean business. Tired and hungry can be a pretty ugly combination, but I made it through Day 2 and am feeling very committed to IP.

It is comforting to know that you are all out there with me struggling with similar issues. Here's to our success

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

Originally Posted by Linden:
I've thought about this, too. Wondering if people would be willing to admit that they were over 50? :^::^:

But the more I thought about it the more I realized how individualized we become after 30 or 40. History of childhood diseases (especially measles = shingles, etc., etc.); trauma, both mental and physical; heredity kicking in; accidents that seemed minor at the time; degenerative and autoimmune problems; or temporal things that just happen and then have consequences. (I got hit by a bike tonight but thank goodness the puppy was OK except if he doesn't leave the nineteen year old cat alone I may cream him.)

I guess what I'm saying is that I've come to realize that as we age we become more individual then we ever (thought we) were when we were young, no matter how special and how unique we might have though ourselves or, in fact, were. :D

Still. I think it's a good idea, if it's helpful to us over 50 or more and, let's be honest, those who will get here eventually -- if they're interested.

Ditto your thoughts Linden:) I'll admit to being over 50 and you know what? I kinda like it! Sort of like that movie Fried Green Tomatoes. Towanda! I love this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU (sorry if we aren't suppose to post things like this)

Also hope your pup is OK and you too!

I'll admit to being 50! I'm in!

Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom:
Ditto your thoughts Linden:) I'll admit to being over 50 and you know what? I kinda like it! Sort of like that movie Fried Green Tomatoes. Towanda! I love this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU (sorry if we aren't suppose to post things like this)

Also hope your pup is OK and you too!

I turned 60 this year - I love it. I know that I am retiring in 2 years because I want to have a few years traveling and just being alive. I don't take prescription medicine (I use to be on insulin and a multitude of other drugs) and I feel good. I do not have the delusion that my body will ever be able to eat what it wants. It just isn't going to happen that way. The best part of being 60 is that when I forget something I can always say, "I am 60 and just don't remember things the way I use to". I love it. Here is to another great day on the "plan".:D:carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

Are all the restarters over 50? LOL I can pretend since I'm getting close at 45.:^:

If you didn't read my other message, I'm starting over on Monday. I did really well the first time through but phased out for some time for mental adjustment to my new shape, regained some weight during some medical issues and I'm not going to let it get out of control. I've put my goal lower than I had initially and I'm ready to buckle down again. It probably won't hurt that I'm having oral surgery next Thursday and won't feel like any solid food!

I'm looking forward to chatting with you.

Day 3
 

Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom:
Ditto your thoughts Linden:) I'll admit to being over 50 and you know what? I kinda like it! Sort of like that movie Fried Green Tomatoes. Towanda! I love this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU (sorry if we aren't suppose to post things like this)

Thanks for digging up that clip. Laughed all over again. Great reminder that aging has its privileges! Kathy Bates is the best and obvious someone who feels very comfortable with her body and has not let her shape limit her success. How are you doing????

Originally Posted by Marionm:
Are all the restarters over 50? LOL I can pretend since I'm getting close at 45.:^:

If you didn't read my other message, I'm starting over on Monday. I did really well the first time through but phased out for some time for mental adjustment to my new shape, regained some weight during some medical issues and I'm not going to let it get out of control. I've put my goal lower than I had initially and I'm ready to buckle down again. It probably won't hurt that I'm having oral surgery next Thursday and won't feel like any solid food!

I'm looking forward to chatting with you.

It is wonderful to have you back. I love your avatar picture with your daughter. I watched your showcase clip. You were terrific. As one who has avoided dancing at all costs, I am so impressed with anyone who can get up on a dance floor. You go girl! It sounds like you have a full plate (perhaps I should have used another word, huh?), but I think IP really helps to keep life manageable. You were so successful before that I know you will do great, again. Glad you are on board!

Originally Posted by Alaskaipjourney:
Today I contacted the our IP office to check what date my last weigh in was and what my weight was. It was 123 on May 13th. Today I weighed in at 130. I need to pull the reigns in before my weight sky rockets again. I am still considered "normal" for my BMI, but my ultimate goal really is to get to 115. The question is do I do it following IP or do it monitoring calories and exercising? IP has been so hard for me to get back on but I know that it works and that I can do it if I have the will power. In the long term it takes less time. Time to focus....what a horrible time of year to try to do this. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas!! I just know I can't go into the holidays without a plan or I'll come out in January being and felling miserable.

I can definitely relate. My BMI is 24.9 yet I am up 1-2 clothing sizes and feel like someone pumped me up with air. I got to goal on Dec 3, 2010 at 118 and have been struggling ever since and now weigh 136. I am a compulsive overeater and have tried everything since including WW, OA, alternatives, etc and decided 3 days ago to try IP again, but I am using their products. For some reason I feel more satisfied with the "real" stuff. It is difficult when I am so close to goal because as I start losing weight, I physically feel better and then start to slack off. This time I am committing like I did the first time when I never cheated and got to goal and Phased through the way I should. My problem was dealing with maintenance. Since I am a on or off type of individual, I couldn't get it together. Let me get to goal, again, and I will address the maintenance issues. Welcome

Originally Posted by Linden:
I've thought about this, too. Wondering if people would be willing to admit that they were over 50? :^::^:

But the more I thought about it the more I realized how individualized we become after 30 or 40. History of childhood diseases (especially measles = shingles, etc., etc.); trauma, both mental and physical; heredity kicking in; accidents that seemed minor at the time; degenerative and autoimmune problems; or temporal things that just happen and then have consequences. (I got hit by a bike tonight but thank goodness the puppy was OK except if he doesn't leave the nineteen year old cat alone I may cream him.)

I guess what I'm saying is that I've come to realize that as we age we become more individual then we ever (thought we) were when we were young, no matter how special and how unique we might have though ourselves or, in fact, were. :D

Still. I think it's a good idea, if it's helpful to us over 50 or more and, let's be honest, those who will get here eventually -- if they're interested.

I'm 58, but I purchased the scale (Omron) that Novak had recommended and it tells me everything about me except my horoscope. It includes BMI, Fat %, Muscle %, Resting Metabolism, Visceral Fat and best of all Age! On my scale this am it said that I was 53!!! Either way real or scale, I'm in the 50 group!

Glad to hear that your puppy is okay. Hope you are, too! You can't afford anymore physical challenges.

Welcome everyone!

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Originally Posted by janedocmom:
Thanks for digging up that clip. Laughed all over again. Great reminder that aging has its privileges! Kathy Bates is the best and obvious someone who feels very comfortable with her body and has not let her shape limit her success. How are you doing????



It is wonderful to have you back. I love your avatar picture with your daughter. I watched your showcase clip. You were terrific. As one who has avoided dancing at all costs, I am so impressed with anyone who can get up on a dance floor. You go girl! It sounds like you have a full plate (perhaps I should have used another word, huh?), but I think IP really helps to keep life manageable. You were so successful before that I know you will do great, again. Glad you are on board!



I can definitely relate. My BMI is 24.9 yet I am up 1-2 clothing sizes and feel like someone pumped me up with air. I got to goal on Dec 3, 2010 at 118 and have been struggling ever since and now weigh 136. I am a compulsive overeater and have tried everything since including WW, OA, alternatives, etc and decided 3 days ago to try IP again, but I am using their products. For some reason I feel more satisfied with the "real" stuff. It is difficult when I am so close to goal because as I start losing weight, I physically feel better and then start to slack off. This time I am committing like I did the first time when I never cheated and got to goal and Phased through the way I should. My problem was dealing with maintenance. Since I am a on or off type of individual, I couldn't get it together. Let me get to goal, again, and I will address the maintenance issues. Welcome



I'm 58, but I purchased the scale (Omron) that Novak had recommended and it tells me everything about me except my horoscope. It includes BMI, Fat %, Muscle %, Resting Metabolism, Visceral Fat and best of all Age! On my scale this am it said that I was 53!!! Either way real or scale, I'm in the 50 group!

Glad to hear that your puppy is okay. Hope you are, too! You can't afford anymore physical challenges.

Welcome everyone!

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Hi, I was wondering what the model # of your Omron scale is and did you buy it in a store or online. I am from Canada, it sounds like a good scale and I would like to try and find it. I have a WW scale that does a few of those things, but would like to have the other features yours has.

This is my first post. I'm brand new to 3FC and IP. I haven't even met with my coach yet. My appointment is tentatively scheduled for next week! I came across this thread and so glad I did. It's a great reminder that everyone has struggles and it truly is a lifestyle change, and also a reminder as to just how important the 4 Phases really are! Thanks for sharing!

[QUOTE=Marionm;4067900]Are all the restarters over 50? LOL I can pretend since I'm getting close at 45.:^:

I'm 37! So no, and I am restarting today :)

Originally Posted by janedocmom:
I'm 58, but I purchased the scale (Omron) that Novak had recommended and it tells me everything about me except my horoscope. It includes BMI, Fat %, Muscle %, Resting Metabolism, Visceral Fat and best of all Age! On my scale this am it said that I was 53!!! Either way real or scale, I'm in the 50 group!

Glad to hear that your puppy is okay. Hope you are, too! You can't afford anymore physical challenges.

I'm OK, thanks. But I'm rethinking wearing a black coat and black knee socks at night when idiots without bike light are afield.

I, too, bought an Omron on Novak's recommendation and have yet to figure out how it works. I can't get any reading but weight. And I've always sort of prided myself on being pretty mechanical. :o

It's been one of those days today.......nobody better cross me, if they know what's good for them.....had to leave the office early and my cell phone hasn't quit ringing. I know it's not PMS cause I'm way past that.

Sitting here drinking a large glass of water and wishing it was straight vodka. But then if it was vodka, tomorrow would be a worse day. Maybe a nap is in order.

Originally Posted by 2011weightbegone:
Hi, I was wondering what the model # of your Omron scale is and did you buy it in a store or online. I am from Canada, it sounds like a good scale and I would like to try and find it. I have a WW scale that does a few of those things, but would like to have the other features yours has.

I use Omron "Full Body Sensor Body Composition Monitor and Scale" Model HBF-514 - from recommendation on this board. It monitors, weight, BMI, Body Fat, Muscle, Resting Metabolism, Body Age, and Visceral Fat. I bought it on amazon.com - I think about $65.00. I use the weight(scale) every morning, and do the other measurements once a week. Keeps me on my toes!

Wii fit just told me that they my real age is 47. I'm 39. Stupid video game... It also told me that I need to lose weight, right after telling me I have a healthy BMI...

Originally Posted by rubyh:
I use Omron "Full Body Sensor Body Composition Monitor and Scale" Model HBF-514 - from recommendation on this board. It monitors, weight, BMI, Body Fat, Muscle, Resting Metabolism, Body Age, and Visceral Fat. I bought it on amazon.com - I think about $65.00. I use the weight(scale) every morning, and do the other measurements once a week. Keeps me on my toes!

Thanks for the info I am going to try amazon and see if I can get it here in Canada. My WW scale is very accurate but would like to have all the other measurements calculated as well

Originally Posted by 2011weightbegone:
Thanks for the info I am going to try amazon and see if I can get it here in Canada. My WW scale is very accurate but would like to have all the other measurements calculated as well

I have a tanita scale. I really like it. I forget what it cost as I've had it for over a decade, and it's never done me wrong. It also does the body fat percentage stuff, but get one with memory if you get one so that you don't have to constantly remind it of female/height/etc.

Originally Posted by Linden:
I'm OK, thanks. But I'm rethinking wearing a black coat and black knee socks at night when idiots without bike light are afield.

I, too, bought an Omron on Novak's recommendation and have yet to figure out how it works. I can't get any reading but weight. And I've always sort of prided myself on being pretty mechanical. :o

All black is definitely a wardrobe malfunction if you are doing nighttime walking. The only way I would wear that outfit is if you accesssorize with a flashing arm band or head light. Adds a whole new meaning to flashing, huh?

My only suggestion for the scale is that after you turn on the scale, perhaps you are not waiting (as opposed to weighing) for the flashing numbers to zero out before you press the #1 button or wherever you stored your stats. Were you able to put in your stats in terms of height, sex, etc? Tell me more if that doesn't solve the problem. :?:

Originally Posted by 2011weightbegone:
Hi, I was wondering what the model # of your Omron scale is and did you buy it in a store or online. I am from Canada, it sounds like a good scale and I would like to try and find it. I have a WW scale that does a few of those things, but would like to have the other features yours has.

It's really unfortunate that I am so computer illiterate. I tried to copy the post and paste it here, but alas, I failed miserably. The scale is an Omron 514. I purchased mine through Amazon for $65. I love it for its accuracy and memory. You can program up to 4 people's profiles. It comes with a weight tracker form that I fill in everytime I weigh myself. Unfortunately, due to my OCD, is every day although I try to guess my weight before I see the number and I am usually right on. My only wish is that it had LED lights. It is digital, but the LCD numbers don't allow for the sneak weigh in during the night unless I want to turn on the bathroom light. How sick is that????

If you want to check out the post, look in Life After Phase 1, page 3, post #34 and look at Novak's post. Ironically, Novak is posting to Linden who is asking her about her fancy schmancy scale. Hope that helps.

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