Alternative Phase 1 Plan
 

Hi Everyone - I am starting the IP Alternative Phase 1 program tomorrow and I am wondering if anyone has been successful doing this plan? Also, it doesn't specify on the protocol page if we are allowed to have a restricted IP as one of our 3 proteins in the day. Any thoughts or comments on this alternative program is greatly appreciated!!

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I've been doing it. The first week I had 4 packets and most days ate all the food that it called for and lost 7.8 lbs. And, yes, you can have one restricted food choice per day. After the first week I cut back on the additional allowance of foods, and for example, I would just eat one slice of toast instead of 2, went down to 3 packets per day, lost 3 pounds, the following week I kept my fruit in the morning and ate some dairy, yogurt for lunch and lost 3.8 pounds.

Mmmmm... fruit and dairy. I miss those.

I'm not on the modified protocol, but am starting Phase 1 Protocol 2 from the good Dr's website. The only difference is I have only 2 packets a day, and have real food for lunch and dinner. No fruit or dairy, though.

Just got some restricted items this week, so I have no opinion on those yet.

what do you all think of this?
it is almost exactly like ideal protein pudding

http://www.dietdirect.com/wonderslim...ingshakes.html

I"m on the Alternative plan because I"m type 1 diabetic. I was also curious about this. I have 3 packets a day and Dinner. Day 4 and I'm going to try and not do the Dairy, Grain, Fruit.
We will see if I can!
I weigh in on Monday, will let you know how it goes.

I just started the Alternative Phase 1 Plan also. They said you dont lose as much weight so I've been skeptical. I tried the regular IP plan and got very sick from the lack of sugar and carbs. I have my first weigh in on Tuesday. I am soo nervous!! Also, do any of you cheat every once in awhile? I had a little bowl of ice cream (fat free and no sugar added) last night...I feel like I need to go to confession or something!!

I have to say the first 2 days I did the alternative but my blood sugars have been fine so now I'm just on the regular. I've lost 5 pounds in 5 days.

Curious if there is anyone now doing the alternative phase 1 and if so how long did u do it. How much did you loose.

I just switched to the Alternative Phase 1 Plan on Saturday. I was having a lot of problems on the regular plan including being extremely hungry and tired, headaches and I almost fainted a few times. My coach suggested I try this Plan instead although I am not diabetic. I must say I do enjoy being allowed to have a carb, fruit and milk product daily. Even if I do not lose at the same rate at least I will still be losing and feel better too. Good luck to you on the Alternative Plan. I hope it works well for you. :hug:

I know I am not doing this right but only when I feel bad I will have brown rice or bannana. I also have been to the passing out point and having heart palpitations. Have u weighed in yet? I think we ate the only ones doing this.

I have not weighed in yet. I go Friday. I think you need to be consistant on the Alternative Plan. You are either on it or your not. I am concerned about your symptoms. Have you talked to your coach? Do you need a copy of the Alternative plan sheet so you can follow it?

Could you post a copy of the alternative plan protocol sheet??

I weigh Thursday my first weigh in will let you know. I have the sheet. Let me know how you do. Today I feel better

Here you go. Now these are the Alternative sheets that Diabetics use. If you are wanting Alternative sheets for the use of using the alternative products, there are not any. Just follow the regular IP plan but just use the alternative products.

I weigh in Friday. I will let you know how it goes. Please tell me how you do and I;m glad you are feeling better :D

Thank you for posting the Alternative Sheet. I have so busy with work that this is the first chance I have had to log in.

Even on the alternative plan you need to stick to it and not cheat if you want it to work.

Sugar and carbs are definitely not good for you as your detox shows. You will very quickly adapt to the structure of phase 1 and will feel better!

Thanks, this is what I wanted. My mother in law is diabetic and had questions about the alternative plan for diabetics!! You rock!! :hug::hug:

I had my first WI since starting the Alternative Phase 1 Plan last week. Down 5.4lbs :flow1: I am anxious to hear how anyone else on the Alternative Plan is doing. Have a happy OP day!

Weird, I dont see the attached sheet :( Could you please repost?

I am so glad to see this thread. I have been on IP for 10 weeks now and am down 21 lbs. I am having a tough time because I feel like I want a cheese stick or a greek yogert or some berries. I no longer crave sweets just dairy and occassionally fruit. I had a heart to heart with my coach and we decided that I would go on the alternative plan. She has started phasing me off the regular plan. I am now on phase 2 and have been all this week. Then she wants me to go to phase 3 for 2 weeks and then start the alternative plan. I am concerned I will gain weight on phase three. My coach said I could gain 3-5 lbs but would be able to take it right off on the alternative plan. I go back on Friday and I am going to ask if I have to go to phase 3 before doing this. I am kind of concerned after seeing how much food one can have on phase 3.

I will find it again for you and re-attach them. For now here is a typed up one for phase one:


Alternative Plan - Phase 1 - To Be Followed Until 90% Of Your Wieght Goal Is Achieved
Breakfast
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed

lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce

dinner

7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies

snack

1 IP packet

Compulsory

64 oz water

1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil

regular IP supplements

IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.

GROUP 1

2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn


Group 2

fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.

group 3

1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese


Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
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Found them, here is the link:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...-phases-4.html

My sheet shows 8 oz for protein. What is the date of your sheet?

I LOVE the Alternative Phase 1 Plan. I don't feel as deprived and I have lost more weight per week. I break up my Group foods and eat them as snacks throughout the day. Be careful with the milk choice though. Milk has 10 grams of sugar in 6oz and may kick you out of ketosis. I switched to Weight Watcher's string cheese and dropped back in ketosis. The sweet potato may be a problem too because of the sugar and scallops have sugar as well. I track all my food through myfitnesspal.com so I can see if my sugar is going to be too high for the food choices I plan to make that day and if they are I readjust. These are just some observations I have made while on the Alternative Plan. Good luck!

Hi! I'm a newbie! I have been on the alternative plan for Ideal Protein for 3 days. I can't tell if anything is working just yet. I had a slight headache this morning but nothing too bad. I am a type 1 diabetic so the diet is actually good for my sugar levels!! Keep posting!!

In the first sticky, post #4, there are .pdf for the phase 1 and 2 of alternative plan (posted by Lisa). How fresh are they? For example in protein it says "2 whole eggs" only, and in vegetables the pepperrs are occasional veggies...so I'm just wondering if this is the most "current" sheet for alternative plan.

Also, does anyone have, or knows a link to the sheets for alternative phases 3 and 4?

Hi Everyone,
My coach suggested I switch to the alternative plan because I was having a difficult time sticking to the regular plan without any slip ups. I'm concerned about switching and either gaining weight or just not losing any, although with all my cheats the past few months I haven't lost much anyways.

Just wondering how everyone is doing on this. Has anyone else had to switch part way through and did they notice a significant decrease in their weight loss?

My biggest concern is that I only have about 8 more pounds to go and to get rid of those pounds I might have to stick to the regular plan which is a lot more strict than allowing myself all of those extras we get on the alternative plan. Thoughts?

About to start...question on group choices
 

The RN who is coaching me did not say anything about ensuring that when making a group choice, it had to be one item from each group per meal. Is this still the case? I am a type 1 diabetic about the alternative plan and I'm wondering if I can have two pieces of toast twice a day or only once? Should I have been told I must pick from one of the three groups for each meal so that I cover all three group choices in one day?

Did she give you the alternative plan sheet? The sheet should say that only 1 from each group is allowed. You shouldn't substitute one for another, because each has a different carb, sugar and calorie counts.

I can't seem to find the sheet. Is there a link? If so, it's not showing up on my computer.
Thanks, I'm real curious what it looks like.

So my question for you ladies is are you all diabetic or just do the plan this way as its easier to stick to long term? I love IP however switch to alterative products to save on $. I did IP last winter and lost all the weight phased off correctly didn’t change my eating habits and gain all the weight back fast! So I’m starting over again. I guess I’m not concerned about taking the weight off as fast as I want it to stay off long term and would like to adapt ‘phase 1’ into a continuous lifestyle form, however I’m missing some dairy and fruit here and there.

The PDFs of the Alt plan are in the FAQ
Here is a link to the post: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/4349574-post4.html

Question- are all of you who are doing this plan diabetic? Or did it just work better for you?

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Wrong kind of alternatives - this thread is regarding the diabetic Phase 1 plan (also known as the Alternative Phase 1 Protocol) :)

I'm a newbie to this site and have found it very helpful while on the IP diet. I'm going into my third week of phase 1 and have had plenty of symptoms along the way but the most troubling recently is the side, back and groin pain I've experienced in the last three days. These are all indications of kidney probs and at 71 years young, i may have reduced kidney function. Since it's the weekend and can't reach my coach, have decided to start alternative plan and see if this helps with pain. I'll get a urinalysis next week.
This is a very helpful community and I thank all of you.

Jac: Did you find the link for the plan? Let me know if you need any support finding it.

You'll do great on IP, whether regular or alternative. My mom did it last year at 72. She dropped 35 lbs between May and October and has kept 30 of it off.

Thanks Lisa for your reply. I don't see my coach until Thursday but started the alternative plan yesterday, less restrictive and less
harsh on kidneys...will see how it goes. If your mom can do it, i can too. Really appreciate the support from this community.

i dont see the alternate phase one. did you post it? is this the one for people who want to exercise? can you re-attach the sheet?

Alternative IP for Phase 1 --
 

is this the plan if you want to exercise?

Alternative for exercise?
 

is the alternative plan for phase one for people who want to exercise?
how much should i exercise to be on this plan? should i wait a while before starting this version (meaning do the reg diet for a while first?) Does it interfere with ketosis? and by the way, how long is the ketosis process last, should i go on the alternative plan after ketosis?