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  • Quote: Hi there,
    Yes I am on about the same schedule of waking up and doing it at least 3-4 nights a week.
    The nights I sleep better are the days I get up extra early and expend massive amounts of physical and mental energy and then do not go to bed til 11:00 to midnight.
    Any other thoughts from other people ?
    P.S. I had just sent you a PM, Mary
    Carol
    Look at you almost in the 170's! You rock chicky! Next WI will be so liberating!
  • Quote: Wow! Some familiar names are starting to re-surface!! Its good to see people come back, because let face it - we might gain a few pounds back when life just gets in the way of smart choices (lol. for lack of a better description) But its good to see that people do come back and know what to do about it!

    I also remember seeing some your names from when I first started!! Nice to meet you guys!
    lesley- i so agree. life gets in the way of smart choices. ticks me off but it happens. i figure if i can ride the rail 80% of the time that is maintenance for me. but of course my math is never quite right!!! lol!

    Quote: So sorry for your loss rondar...

    I really enjoy this thread.. It's nice to see all of the seasoned people who I have learned so much from these past 10 weeks or so..

    I am recommitting tonight ( after an unplanned little cheat) Like someone just said...
    Failing to plan, is planning to fail or something like that. So true . I need to really not get relaxed about this or I'm going to gain it all back in maintenance.
    Thanks everyone , I learn so much. I am enjoying this journey and I know one night of a cheat is not going to make me gain 35 lbs back, but I'm just mad that I let myself mentally give up for a few seconds of wonderfulness. Tomorrows a new day!!
    momofive- it causes me alot of anxiety as well, but i do feel myself relaxing and that needs to get put in check! do i eat something just once or not, and what if i gain it back kind of thing all the time. as far as a few seconds of wonderful, not me- i'm going to get a buzz and keep it all evening, heck with a few seconds of fun before i swallow the food. i'd rather have a drink than food. sick isn't it? i am struggling with this hole my dad left in my heart, but i know food and drink won't fill it. i just want a mini mental break somedays.... it'll get better, tho. i just have to tuff it out!



    Quote: There you all are!!! I seriously almost stopped reading/posting because I couldn't figure out why there were only newbies on the boards!!! I guess I thought this was just for "struggling" and didn't think of you guys that way! Imagine my JOY when I clicked her this morning out of struggling with the site (not the diet!) and found my long lost buddies!!! So excited!!! I have to say I see the benefit of being over here in "old fogies" land where we don't have to read the same newbie questions over and over... though I don't mind answering them from time to time. Now I am so behind on everyone's progress and will take a while to catch up... kind of feels like the first day back to school after summer. But so glad to have found you all again! BTW... Officially lost over 50 pounds now! And NSV... went shopping Friday expecting to buy some size 24 stuff and walked out with 22's!!! Couldn't believe it! So exciting! Can't wait to see what is under the rest of the "layers". Anyway... not to go on and on... but seriously... so glad to see you all again! Jen
    mirror- i know! the daily chat thread is not my fave any more! i told colorado dive girl it was just too much of the same ole same ole. and on this thread i don't have to white out when i want to say things like i drank beer, or ate pizza! which i didn't..... eat the pizza at least, but ya, i did drink the beer! lol congrats on your 50!

    Quote: My, my, my....YOU NEED TO EAT!!!!!
    Please start phasing off my love. Your body has had enough. Less of everything will slow your metabolism down to a halt. Anyone disagree with me feel free to chime in, but I've seen this more than a handful of times. Time for food. I promise you the rest of your weight will come off. This is truly a matter of more will equal less.
    Do phase II right away, so you can get to ph. III and start having the larger breakfasts.
    I lost my last 7 lbs AFTER I left ph.1. I've lost most of it in 3 and believe it or not, I lost surprise weight in phase 4.
    Gals and Guys, please chime in here! Good luck and keep in touch please.
    my common sense tells me that the body adapts so easily that we have to throw it a curve ball to keep things confused. staying on a strict schedule has it's benefits, like personal control, but then again, your body knows exactly what to expect and it is going to save itself from your madness! i've read alot about interval eating where you cycle low to high days to keep the metabolism from adjusting. and my experience is after having a cheat or two is i stayed the same weight then lost a couple. different for everyone, but if nothing else works i'd try adding a higher intake day at random intervals.

    Quote: I am scheduled to have my knee replaced on June 1st. I do not want to go off program for my recovery. Has anyone had major surgery and remained on the program during the recovery?
    wouldn't you guys think the extra protein, especially if your product has a good amino acid profile would promote healing? i would certainly supplement with a quality whey product even if i upped my calories.

    Quote: Ok..I have not read the entire thread..so this may already be answered.

    My question is...Does this diet have an end? I read a few ppl say that they are going off plan, etc. and a few others that say they are in maintenance, but sounds like they are still spending the money and such to keep up the high protein.

    So, if I were to choose to do the IP plan, and I get to my goal weight, do I ever get to go back to a more average diet? Or to maintain do you continue eating the same Protien with Minimal carbs?
    my life maintenance plan is low carb most of the month with my protein breakfast drink (nectar by syntrax which is only about a buck a serving) a mostly meat lunch and meat and veggie supper. 1 or 2 times a month i expect to let myself have a more carbohydrate type meal or some social drinking. we'll see how it works out..... it seems similar to what darbs and some others seem to be doing and maintaining just fine.
  • i'm taking a poll!
    i'm taking a poll! i want to know how many of you have ever decided you just had to have a bite of something seriously OP.... maybe a cinnamon roll, brownie, whatever..... so you chomped into it, chewed and felt it all in your mouth, tasting the wonderful delight.... then suddenly realized you felt like some kind of weird perverted mad woman and spit it out like poison in the garbage?

    anyone?

    (please dear lord let someone be in as bad of shape as i am! ) could it possibly be like when bill clinton said ya, but i didn't inhale?
  • Bra
    The best way to look great is to purchase a new bra that fits, lifts, and separates. Often times we neglect this all important implement. Always try your clothes on over a new bra to make sure you're not doing the sausage roll jog bra look.
    Mary
  • Quote: i'm taking a poll! i want to know how many of you have ever decided you just had to have a bite of something seriously OP.... maybe a cinnamon roll, brownie, whatever..... so you chomped into it, chewed and felt it all in your mouth, tasting the wonderful delight.... then suddenly realized you felt like some kind of weird perverted mad woman and spit it out like poison in the garbage?

    anyone?

    (please dear lord let someone be in as bad of shape as i am! ) could it possibly be like when bill clinton said ya, but i didn't inhale?
    Well, uh, I remember feeding the cat then, without thinking, licked my fingers. Yech! Splat! Does that count?
  • Quote: The best way to look great is to purchase a new bra that fits, lifts, and separates. Often times we neglect this all important implement. Always try your clothes on over a new bra to make sure you're not doing the sausage roll jog bra look.
    Mary
    OMG yes.

    Buying a bra that fit me properly was the best new clothing purchase I made on this diet.

    And that's saying something, as clothes that fit really make a difference in how you look. It's expensive to replace your wardrobe, especially when you're losing multiple sizes, but, I strongly recommend buying at least a few pieces that fit at every stage.

    Especially a bra that fits. :-)
  • Losing Weight in Phase 2 and 3
    For those of you who have gone into Phase 2 and 3, and continued to lose weight - how long did you stay in those phases? I assumed it was only two weeks in each, but I reread the docs and realized that that's the minimum. So, when you say you've lost weight in Phase 2 or 3, do you mean during those minimum two weeks, or are you staying there longer?
  • The Crazies
    Another "is it just me?" question:

    Do you find you make yourself crazy over whether or not the scale is moving? My mood and general state of mind these days is so dependent on what that number says. I drive myself and the people around me crazy when things are not progressing as fast as I'd like.

    I know I need to stop (I'm trying to start transitioning off asap, because I can't do this anymore) but I'm wondering if it's just me, or if this whole weight-loss process is as maddening to everyone else as it is to me.

    -Lisa
  • Quote: For those of you who have gone into Phase 2 and 3, and continued to lose weight - how long did you stay in those phases? I assumed it was only two weeks in each, but I reread the docs and realized that that's the minimum. So, when you say you've lost weight in Phase 2 or 3, do you mean during those minimum two weeks, or are you staying there longer?
    I lost weight in both phases. I went into Phase 2 way too early to stay only 2 weeks, so I stayed for at least 6 weeks. I broke through a bad plateau and continued to loose. IMHO, anyone can handle PH 2 for as long as they need it. I worked PH 3 for the recommended two weeks, but I still eat the PH 3 breakfasts in maintenance.
  • Quote: i'm taking a poll! i want to know how many of you have ever decided you just had to have a bite of something seriously OP.... maybe a cinnamon roll, brownie, whatever..... so you chomped into it, chewed and felt it all in your mouth, tasting the wonderful delight.... then suddenly realized you felt like some kind of weird perverted mad woman and spit it out like poison in the garbage?
    When I was first starting this diet, a friend pointed out to me that this is not the kind of diet you can cheat on. With a ketosis-based diet, either you're on it or you're not. I took that idea and ran with it, and managed to convince myself that if I DID have carbs, I would make myself sick, either in the moment, or in three days when my body kicked back into ketosis. Using that, I managed not to cheat with anything carb-like. I've had things like cheese or nuts, which are probably just as bad, and definitely set me back, but no carbs or sugars.

    That said, the best advice I ever got from my doc/councilor was, "Don't make yourself crazy."
  • Quote: I still eat the PH 3 breakfasts in maintenance.
    People have mentioned the phase 3 breakfasts, but, I don't have the docs on phase 3 yet. Are they posted anywhere online, or would I have to get them from my center?
  • Quote: People have mentioned the phase 3 breakfasts, but, I don't have the docs on phase 3 yet. Are they posted anywhere online, or would I have to get them from my center?
    Hi Lisa, Look in the "Phases" Sticky at the top of the main page. I think its one of Jordanna's posts that has the pdf files for each of the phases.
  • Quote: i'm taking a poll! i want to know how many of you have ever decided you just had to have a bite of something seriously OP.... maybe a cinnamon roll, brownie, whatever..... so you chomped into it, chewed and felt it all in your mouth, tasting the wonderful delight.... then suddenly realized you felt like some kind of weird perverted mad woman and spit it out like poison in the garbage?

    anyone?

    (please dear lord let someone be in as bad of shape as i am! ) could it possibly be like when bill clinton said ya, but i didn't inhale?
    HI Rondar,

    I have done that, with cheese, or a 1/2 tsp of peanut butter, and NOT spit it out... and have no gain the following days.... just stay strict the next day, it works for me... and still in ketosis
  • Quote: i'm taking a poll! i want to know how many of you have ever decided you just had to have a bite of something seriously OP.... maybe a cinnamon roll, brownie, whatever..... so you chomped into it, chewed and felt it all in your mouth, tasting the wonderful delight.... then suddenly realized you felt like some kind of weird perverted mad woman and spit it out like poison in the garbage?

    anyone?

    (please dear lord let someone be in as bad of shape as i am! ) could it possibly be like when bill clinton said ya, but i didn't inhale?
    Not just you....

    Quote: When I was first starting this diet, a friend pointed out to me that this is not the kind of diet you can cheat on. With a ketosis-based diet, either you're on it or you're not. I took that idea and ran with it, and managed to convince myself that if I DID have carbs, I would make myself sick, either in the moment, or in three days when my body kicked back into ketosis. Using that, I managed not to cheat with anything carb-like. I've had things like cheese or nuts, which are probably just as bad, and definitely set me back, but no carbs or sugars.

    That said, the best advice I ever got from my doc/councilor was, "Don't make yourself crazy."
    I figure this is going to take me a while and I have to make it liveable... It may slow me down a bit, but if a little cheese or nuts gets me through and prevents a serious cheat, it was worth it. I agree with Tim on Project Runway... "Make it work people!"
  • Quote: Morning everyone. Back on plan. Have a super day

    How did your conference go? How is the plan? Where you at? NO cheats until goal for me!


    Quote: Hey everyone!


    Any advice and encouragement you can send would be very, very appreciated.

    I agree with the other recommendations...I think you need to go to phase II. Great job BTW!


    Quote: There you all are!!! Anyway... not to go on and on... but seriously... so glad to see you all again! Jen
    Good job and keep up the good work!


    Quote: I am scheduled to have my knee replaced on June 1st. I do not want to go off program for my recovery. Has anyone had major surgery and remained on the program during the recovery?
    Kaarin did...she is not on site anymore, but I am Facebook friends with her...I will get you some advice.