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showgirlaz 11-21-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3577465)
I spent about 20-30 minutes yesterday trying to find the shrimp scampi recipe, using I'm Svelting!'s method and the IP one. If anyone could lead me to it, I'd really appreciate it.

I haven't run across a post by I'm Svelting for scampi. I have run across some other scampi recipes in the original recipes thread and references to using the WF scampi sauce. Maybe I'm Svelting can direct you? I will keep looking.

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Originally Posted by FatnFunky (Post 3577594)
I have been on IP for 13 weeks, I have lost 40 pounds and now I am finding that I am always cold. Does anyone else experience this. I thought it was just cause I lost some insulation. I can ususally add another layer and be OK, but my hands are often like ice. Any thoughts?

Congratulations! And, YES! :) we all get there at some point. I don't know if it is the rapid weight loss effecting our insulation or our changes in blood pressure or vascular changes. I have been wondering based on some comments about brown fat others have made if, when they say we burn brown fat, they don't mean we activate brown fat. I wonder that because brown fat is a fat burning "tool" that activates strongly when we are cold. I may be getting this wrong or cause/effect wrong but, it was something I pondered. ANYWAY, to answer the question, YEP, nearly all of us end up feeling cold. :(

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Originally Posted by iowahawkeyemom (Post 3577617)
Good Sunday morning to everyone. It's a overcast, damp cold day here in Iowa. We are suppose to have a high of 22 degrees here by Thanksgiving. Brrr!

For several weeks now, I have been considering changing my goal weight. From 135 up to 145. Well, I officially did it. My deciding factor came about Thursday when I picked my daughter up from the airport. She hadn't seen me since I started this plan. For a couple of weeks, people had been telling me that I had lost enough weight. That my face was really sunken. I thought it was just people not used to seeing me thinner. My daughter took one look at me and said mom, you can't lose 20 more pounds. People will think you are sick. She is very honest with me, I'm sure that if she thought I should go to 135 she would tell me. We talked for sometime about it and decided 145 would be better for me instead of the 135. I overheard her on the phone to a friend telling them that I looked so good now. That they won't believe the change in me. What a great feeling that was for me.

At first I had that 135 number stuck in my head and had to reach it. Then, I realized, it's just a number. It's what I weighed in high school. 33 years ago! After hitting my highest weight of 207 three years ago, I said I would be happy to weigh 160 and wear a size 12. Now I'm 154 and wear a size 10. My body has changed so much and so fast on this plan. I am off all of my medications, blood pressure, cholesterol, and pre diabetes pills. When I hit my new goal of 145, and maintain it, I will rethink it. I may decide to go to a lesser weight. But for now, I have switched to the 145.

The past couple of days have been hard. My back has been giving me problems followed by two trips to the chiro. Now my muscles are hurting and I'm on otc pain meds. I've had back problems off and on for years. They started when I worked at a factory and lifted 50 pound bags for 8 hour shifts. Thank goodness I no longer do this. This weather we're having isn't helping either. Now I sound like a cry baby. Today I think I will keep active and work through the pain instead of laying around the house. I should think positive.....now I have less than 10 pounds to my new goal. Thanks for listening.

I just realized, I hit 30 pounds lost this week. What a great feeling!

Congrats on hitting 30 pounds lost! :) Way to go, Lady! :carrot::carrot:

Definitely go to the 145 goal. You will notice as you phase off and starting eating more like a balanced diet that sunken look changes. I had it and I had dark circles below my eyes (just starting). With in about 2 weeks of moving to a phase 3 approach it was back to normal. Still a more slender face but, I had a more natural look. You can always tackle another 10 later if you feel it is still important at that point in time.

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Originally Posted by CBG (Post 3577665)
Even tho I had a planned cheat day yesterday...I didn't! Lots and lots of food and wine out but stayed totally away from all the off protocol items. Enjoyed the veggies and pickles and stuck to IP. Want to lose a bit more before the Christmas holidays and thought that the cheats weren't worth it. I really do miss the fresh fruits and a good glass or two of wine now and again.

GOOD FOR YOU!!! That took a lot of commitment and will power.

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Originally Posted by Medicmom734 (Post 3577656)
Congrats on your loss!

Well, I am officially off protocol until after my procedure on Wednesday, and I have no regrets, other than my tummy is uncomfortable today. I went on a date last night (first one is a year or so) and had lasagna and a glass of wine. My "fluids only" 3 day fasting starts tomorrow, and I think that the reason I had had some cheats because subconsciously, this 3 day fast was on my mind, so I decided instead of try and stay on protocol and stay in ketosis while doing this, that I would have a couple of good meals, get through the procedure, and start back into it on Thursday after the procedure is over. With 3 days of fasting, its not like I am gonna gain anything anyway. And who says a good colon cleanse isn't good for the waistline! LOL!

I am pretty sure I might starve to death by Thursday, and a packet on Thursday morning will taste like heaven!!!!!

Have a great Sunday everyone, I am going to clean house today!

Well.... The good news is, after 2 days of fasting your body is in ketosis. Starvation always brings on ketosis, so, getting back on plan will be easy if you remember that the fast KEEPS you in ketosis.

The bad news, if you hadn't eaten the pre-fast feast, your body was already in ketosis, would have stayed in ketosis, and would have taken all of the needed calories/energy for the 3 day fast from your fat. You would have lost more and gone back on plan very easily.

More good news, when you finish the procedure and are allowed to eat, go back on plan immediately, use a restricted packet or occasionally veggies right away (more carbs), then stay on plan using an extra packet a day if you need too. You should be in ketosis on day 1! You really don't need to have any other "stuff" and you can't really justify a cheat given that a liquid fast (provided it isn't made of fruit juice) will keep you in ketosis.

Be careful with sugary fluids during your liquid fast. They will cause you to gain some weight because they will replace glucose, glycogen, and add water back to your body. Try to go with sugar free and low carb low sodium chicken broth.

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Originally Posted by Journeysend (Post 3577710)
35 days until :hohoho:


Must tell you all a very hard lesson I learned that past couple of days: My DD & I had an open house for our home based business and of course we had coffee and Dainties there....well didn't get the leftovers back into the freezer fast enough and ate some of them!! Don't know if it was the sugar or the flour or the combination, BUT BOY WAS I SICK.....a lesson learned the very hard way!!!!! PLUS when I weighed myself this morning I had gained :mad: Now I am doubly afraid to go off IP ... I can remember the days when I had to take 10 Imodium a day :( and certainly don't want to have to do that again. So the moral to my story is....NO SUGAR AND FLOUR FOR ME!!!

When you go phase off, you might try treating it as coming off an allergy identifying diet. This plan takes away many foods that people are allergic to in small or large degrees. New science is showing that some forms of inflammation, including weight gain/obesity, may be the result of toxins created from undigestible parts of food. Those toxic food parts actually cause the body to swell when it can't eliminate them through proper processes.

As you phase off slowly add one item then another. Try adding a sugar first and see how it reacts with you. Then try adding a non gluten flour item (rice, oats, etc), then add an ancient wheat like spelt or a rye, try adding a gluten free dessert, and last add a real wheat. It will be a slow process but, it can help you identify if you are allergic to a sugar, a grain, and which grain. Wheat flour is a common food allergy. Also, consider that you may be allergic to dairy food or real eggs. (That assumes you haven't had any real eggs while on this plan.) Any of these allergies can cause you too rapidly hold water,and feel achy, sick to your stomach, or gassy.



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Originally Posted by MaryKate89 (Post 3577873)
On my own tonight for dinner, the boyfriend starts late shifts tonight so I'll be on my own for 4 more nights. I took out some ground beef for me to make anyone have any suggestions on what to do with it? I've looked through the recipe thread I must be over looking maybe?

You could make the "big mac in a bowl" recipe that Jordanna posted in the tips for newbies thread.

Southwest STYLE taco salad. Onion, lettuce, tomato, cucumber, hamburger seasoned with taco seasoning (Jordanna posted one), I have added a few of the bbq chips crumbled or the bbq soy nuts as a treat. I make a cumin, lemon or lime, with chilli pepper vinegar dressing to go with it.

You could make sliders using lettuce leaf or mushroom caps as the buns.

Make hamburger lettuce wraps or lettuce cups. Kind of like chicken lettuce wraps.

You could make a goulash with lightly sauted onion, red pepper flake, ground chili powder, garlic, and ground black pepper with chopped tomato (assumes you have your occasional veggie allotment left), and put it over cauliflower rice. (many modifiable recipes online.. search hamburger goulosh and drop the macaroni from the recipe. make the cauliflower rice and add it toward the end or serve the hamburger mix over the "rice" on the plate.)

You could make a hamburger stew with ground hamburger, turnip or rutabaga, leeks, mushroom, zuchinni, onion, green pepper, or any other mix of acceptable veggies. (my grandmother made something like that when I was a kid.)

I used to make a clear hamburger gravy with rice (cauliflower rice) and veggies.

You could make stuffed peppers, mushroom, cabbage, or tomatoes. The mix would be with an IP soup or egg white to hold together, onion, bell pepper, finely chopped cauliflower, zucchini shreds.

Those might be some starting ideas.

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Originally Posted by AmyonIP (Post 3577927)
If you think you want to cheat, have someone take a picture of you when you're sitting down from the side, and that should take care of the temptation! lol.
I had the celery root "fries" the other day, not bad at all! I will try these again.
Have a great rest of the day all!

I LOVE THAT!! Honestly, of all my pictures the ones I like the least are the side views. :(

Medicmom734 11-21-2010 04:03 PM

As always, thanks Carla for your expertise! I was thinking the exact same thing, that it would be easy to get back in, but didn't realize that I would stay in ketosis during the fast without the protein. Learning all the time. I think for the most part, I was really wanting to eat because I am going to have to go 3 days without. I had lasagna because its my favorite. Other than that, I have still stayed within limits without the packets.
I will go right into the packets and right at it, as soon as I am allowed to eat. As I am also getting a gastroscopy, am thinking that fluids will be until next morning. Hard to say! I always wake up from surgery STARVING and demand food! LOL!

Talk to you soon!

Susan

showgirlaz 11-21-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coqui (Post 3577953)
Hi Everyone. I just made a batch of zuchini chips, but they are not crispy. I have them sitting out to see if they get less saggy. Has anyone tried doing these chips? I heard they are good, but I'm not sure mine will trun out as they should.

That happens sometimes. Zucchini can be very wet. Try drying them out with a little salt or with paper towels.

Some people make these with dehydrators so they become very crisp.

Another website tips is :Cut the chips and par boil them for about 3 minutes until they are soft. Make sure oven is very hot *(220C or 425F) put on a pre-heated tray at top of oven until golden brown.

Try putting them back in the oven and dry them out some. I can't remember who said this, last week, maybe Mrs. Diettrich??, use a lower heat, maybe 300 or 325 and check on them about every 5 minutes until they seem to be going the direction you want.

showgirlaz 11-21-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Medicmom734 (Post 3577977)
As always, thanks Carla for your expertise! I was thinking the exact same thing, that it would be easy to get back in, but didn't realize that I would stay in ketosis during the fast without the protein. Learning all the time. I think for the most part, I was really wanting to eat because I am going to have to go 3 days without. I had lasagna because its my favorite. Other than that, I have still stayed within limits without the packets.
I will go right into the packets and right at it, as soon as I am allowed to eat. As I am also getting a gastroscopy, am thinking that fluids will be until next morning. Hard to say! I always wake up from surgery STARVING and demand food! LOL!

Talk to you soon!

Susan


Oh wow!

Yes, you do need protein, that can come from a good low sodium or homemade low sodium chicken broth. If you don't get protein, your body will start to burn its own muscle along with fat. That will happen on any liquid fast too.

Sometimes the doctors will be ok with you using a gelatin. As long as they don't say no red, you might be able to use the IP jello. You could ask if they would allow the orange drink, or blueberry drink, or pina colada, or pineapple. I KNOW! :o As I write this, I am thinking too late, maybe next time.

Maybe it will help someone else. We have had several people go through surgeries and pre-procedure care. Maybe we should write a thread about what can be done based on experiences of those who have been there?

Good luck with the procedure. I am sure things will be great. Enjoy your break. You will get back on program very easily when you are ready to start up!

darbs7 11-21-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaryKate89 (Post 3576839)
Happy Weekend to everyone!! Today is only my 3rd day and last night i experienced my very first dining out challenge....my family is in town for the weekend and wanted to go to a local rest. that is mostly bbq. I was so proud of myself I absoluetly love their blue cheese burger but last night i went with 2 small crab cakes and steamed veggies and took the carrots out!! My family was almost in shock I actually ordered this!! I was also the designated driver as i opted to not cheat and not have a drink or 2 and let everyone else I stuck to my ice water! 2 problems I'm having though are getting these huge pills down im so not a pill taker!!! I skipped them last night! whoops! What happens if I cant get them down and do skip them? second of everyone even the dr's office warned me a million times about the big "C" (constipation) Im having the opposite problem! Is that normal? BTW my scale says im down 2.4 pounds!!of course its not as accurate as the dr's but hopefully its not to wrong thats encourgaging!!

I would second that crab cakes are a no-no...even without bread crumbs there has to be mayo or eggs or something holding them together. I am 10 weeks in an only ate out once (I used to eat out 3-4 nights a week...very social) and that is because I can control everything. This is such a strict diet. No sauces or additives in our foods. But I have gotten used to it. With that said I plan on phasing off before goal sometime mid to late January because five months of this will be enough. good luck to you the diet is amazing and works wonderful.

showgirlaz 11-21-2010 04:11 PM

Off to watch some football (49ers) for a little while. I hope you are all enjoy your Sunday.

See you later tonight :)

ladyvrod 11-21-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MaryKate89 (Post 3577873)
On my own tonight for dinner, the boyfriend starts late shifts tonight so I'll be on my own for 4 more nights. I took out some ground beef for me to make anyone have any suggestions on what to do with it? I've looked through the recipe thread I must be over looking maybe?

If you are looking for a seudo taco thing I use chili powder and mix ground meat with grated and cooked cauliflower makes it seem like A LOT more and use lettuce as a wrap mmmmmm I add some pico de gallo to the top too.

Medicmom734 11-21-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3577982)
Oh wow!

Yes, you do need protein, that can come from a good low sodium or homemade low sodium chicken broth. If you don't get protein, your body will start to burn its own muscle along with fat. That will happen on any liquid fast too.

Sometimes the doctors will be ok with you using a gelatin. As long as they don't say no red, you might be able to use the IP jello. You could ask if they would allow the orange drink, or blueberry drink, or pina colada, or pineapple. I KNOW! :o As I write this, I am thinking too late, maybe next time.

Maybe it will help someone else. We have had several people go through surgeries and pre-procedure care. Maybe we should write a thread about what can be done based on experiences of those who have been there?

Good luck with the procedure. I am sure things will be great. Enjoy your break. You will get back on program very easily when you are ready to start up!

Ya, it does say no red or purple dyes, so thats out. I am stocked up on jello though. I bought a tonne of the sugar free stuff. I also have a load of broths, and clear sugar free juices. I am going to sneak in a few of the IP drinks in there, only because I think it will help with the hunger and any weakness. I am working the first day, but then am off for the rest. I plan on going straight back onto protocol on Thursday morning.

I think it would be awesome to have a sticky surgery/procedure thread. We also have a lot of medical people on here that can give great advice!

Off to make more jello!

Susan

Mrs Diettrich 11-21-2010 05:37 PM

My NSV for the day - this morning, I put on my favoritest Gap trouser jeans and they were too big! Big enough that I won't be wearing them anymore... Old man butt, a big old gap in the waistband - it was AWESOME. And a little sad. I loved those jeans. Good thing I bought them on clearance...

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3577978)
Try putting them back in the oven and dry them out some. I can't remember who said this, last week, maybe Mrs. Diettrich??, use a lower heat, maybe 300 or 325 and check on them about every 5 minutes until they seem to be going the direction you want.

It was me that suggested that, but in reference to making the crepe crackers! I suppose it could work with the zucchini - in essence, you're turning your oven into a dehydrator...

Coqui 11-21-2010 05:38 PM

Some people make these with dehydrators so they become very crisp.

Thanks Carla! They truned out better but I think I'm going to get a dehidrator.
Aside from zuchini and trunips, what other vegetables could be good for chips? I love dried fruit but I have never tried veggies.

ginBAM 11-21-2010 05:52 PM

feeling good
 
I have had my first weekend in a long time without the stress of some type of home work or running around like a chicken with my head cut off.

So I took the kids to the YMCA and we walked the track, my DH is a runner so I was feelling good and was able to jog three laps with him talking and smiling hte whole time. It is amazing what jogging feels like when you are 30lbs lighter. After a cool down, we took the kids to open gym and played basket ball, It was also a lot easier to shoot the ball.

This would be enough for and NSV, by my DH was laughing because as I manged to do all this my work out pants kept falling down, guess it is time to go shopping for new workout cloths!:D

JollyCrewzer 11-21-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3577971)
When you go phase off, you might try treating it as coming off an allergy identifying diet. This plan takes away many foods that people are allergic to in small or large degrees. New science is showing that some forms of inflammation, including weight gain/obesity, may be the result of toxins created from undigestible parts of food. Those toxic food parts actually cause the body to swell when it can't eliminate them through proper processes.

As you phase off slowly add one item then another. Try adding a sugar first and see how it reacts with you. Then try adding a non gluten flour item (rice, oats, etc), then add an ancient wheat like spelt or a rye, try adding a gluten free dessert, and last add a real wheat. It will be a slow process but, it can help you identify if you are allergic to a sugar, a grain, and which grain. Wheat flour is a common food allergy. Also, consider that you may be allergic to dairy food or real eggs. (That assumes you haven't had any real eggs while on this plan.) Any of these allergies can cause you too rapidly hold water,and feel achy, sick to your stomach, or gassy.

I love your idea about treating phasing off as an allergy identifying diet. I used to get migraines quite frequently. When I last charted them, I had 22 migraine days in one month. Since starting IP, 15 weeks ago, I haven't had 1.
I don't eat many eggs because they upset my stomach and I also avoid most dairy because it causes my acid reflux to act up. I am wondering if Gluten was causing the migraines. I am definitely going to add only one thing at a time. I LOVE BEING MIGRAINE-FREE!!


Linden I ran across a Shrimp Scampi recipe from Ogdog in the original recipe thread post # 483 (page 33 for me). Don't know if that was the one you were looking for.

I am also in the Freezing-All-The-Time club. Like some of you have mentioned, I too wear my coat at work, have a space heater on and cover my legs with a blanket! Such a professional look! I love my bed though, I added a down comforter and turn my heated mattress pad to high!

I've really thought about eating a 'Normal' Thanksgiving meal on Thursday, since my coach recommended it. But, honestly, there is nothing that I really want as much as I want to get to goal. I'm only going to have turkey, mashed cauliflower, veggies and a salad. I may take a vanilla RTD with pumpkin pie spice for a treat!! I can't believe how all of my cravings for the 'sweets' have gone!

Have a great IP week! Good luck everyone at your weigh -ins!!

sunnymae 11-21-2010 07:48 PM

Week 5 hits a wall
 
:mad:I'm still keepin the program, yessirree....but I have to say that today...I am sick sick sick of lemons, vinegar and mustard. WI disgusting Mayo. I loved the ketchup 2 weeks ago. Thought I'd gone to Heaven. Today it just tasted gross.
Can't finish my salad. It's on the table and I'm hoping I can go back and take just a few more bites.
All my food is boring me. I have to change it up from the turkey, chicken monotony. Mrs Dash can take a hike. I've squeezed enough garlic to wilt fresh flowers and have everything free chicken stock coming out of my arse.
Thank you for letting me vent. I'm stickin' with it...just hitting a wall today.
Thank you for listening and sharing. That helps the most. Have a great evening and a wonderful upcoming week.

Medicmom734 11-21-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnymae (Post 3578183)
:mad:I'm still keepin the program, yessirree....but I have to say that today...I am sick sick sick of lemons, vinegar and mustard. WI disgusting Mayo. I loved the ketchup 2 weeks ago. Thought I'd gone to Heaven. Today it just tasted gross.
Can't finish my salad. It's on the table and I'm hoping I can go back and take just a few more bites.
All my food is boring me. I have to change it up from the turkey, chicken monotony. Mrs Dash can take a hike. I've squeezed enough garlic to wilt fresh flowers and have everything free chicken stock coming out of my arse.
Thank you for letting me vent. I'm stickin' with it...just hitting a wall today.
Thank you for listening and sharing. That helps the most. Have a great evening and a wonderful upcoming week.

HUGS :hug:

I hit that wall too, but when it passed, it was wonderful. I hit that wall again last week, but am motivated to keep trucking this week.

Good Luck!

CBG 11-21-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnymae (Post 3578183)
:mad:I'm still keepin the program, yessirree....but I have to say that today...I am sick sick sick of lemons, vinegar and mustard. WI disgusting Mayo. I loved the ketchup 2 weeks ago. Thought I'd gone to Heaven. Today it just tasted gross.
Can't finish my salad. It's on the table and I'm hoping I can go back and take just a few more bites.
All my food is boring me. I have to change it up from the turkey, chicken monotony. Mrs Dash can take a hike. I've squeezed enough garlic to wilt fresh flowers and have everything free chicken stock coming out of my arse.
Thank you for letting me vent. I'm stickin' with it...just hitting a wall today.
Thank you for listening and sharing. That helps the most. Have a great evening and a wonderful upcoming week.

Hitting those walls aren't fun. I hit one about the 5 week mark too! It wasn't much fun and I mostly felt angry at everything including the diet. Hang in there. Your venting rant is encouraging and helps with my resolve too. Thanks.


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