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Kelsey 08-20-2010 09:43 AM

ASK QUESTIONS IN THE DAILY THREAD? or CREATE A NEW THREAD FOR EVERYTHING???
 
I haven't read everything this past week or 2, as you all know, I'm out of it for now. I get why we had to go to the "new daily thread" concept, but what's with every single question getting it's own thread? Is that how it's supposed to be now? We all use to ask our questions in the daily thread, and now with 500 allowed everyday we have the room for sure. Did I miss something?

Novak 08-20-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelsey (Post 3445391)
I haven't read everything this past week or 2, as you all know, I'm out of it for now. I get why we had to go to the "new daily thread" concept, but what's with every single question getting it's own thread? Is that how it's supposed to be now? We all use to ask our questions in the daily thread, and now with 500 allowed everyday we have the room for sure. Did I miss something?

IMHO, we now have far too many threads... so why did you start a new thread to ask this question? :?:

(just kidding) :D :hug:

I think all this should be taken on by the group wanting to make the boards more efficient. We have a lot of new people, and once a few started doing it, everyone did. Some forums operate that way, so if we want to lay out different guidelines, we need to make them known to all.

Leenie 08-20-2010 10:03 AM

I would suggest asking questions in the daily thread. Your question will probably get more attention that way.

We are doing our best to make this board more user friendly, especially for newbies :D

Leenie

Kristiv88 08-20-2010 10:07 AM

I'm just a newbie here but I don't mind if important questions get their own thread. I think it's a little easier to navigate through this forum. I personally haven't read through the entire daily/weekly discussions (yet). I just don't have the time. So for me, I find this helpful to come to see a thread that might pertain to something I'm experiencing.

Just my opinion. ;)

Kelsey 08-20-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445413)
IMHO, we now have far too many threads... so why did you start a new thread to ask this question? :?:

(just kidding) :D :hug:

I think all this should be taken on by the group wanting to make the boards more efficient. We have a lot of new people, and once a few started doing it, everyone did. Some forums operate that way, so if we want to lay out different guidelines, we need to make them known to all.

I had too, as I was afraid I'd missed a meeting. Topic of discussion: every new thought = new thread! LOL ;) (of course it also means there's far less interesting conversations going on)

Novak 08-20-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leenie (Post 3445425)
I would suggest asking questions in the daily thread. Your question will probably get more attention that way.

We are doing our best to make this board more user friendly, especially for newbies :D

Leenie

I agree. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristiv88 (Post 3445435)
I'm just a newbie here but I don't mind if important questions get their own thread. I think it's a little easier to navigate through this forum. I personally haven't read through the entire daily/weekly discussions (yet). I just don't have the time. So for me, I find this helpful to come to see a thread that might pertain to something I'm experiencing.

Just my opinion. ;)

I understand, and agree that some topics merit a dedicated thread... but we get a lot of introductions ("Hi, I'm new here...") or narrow focus subjects ("Can we eat such-and-such on this diet) that require only a brief response, then they roll onto the back pages somewhere. It's easier to keep up with a few threads than dozens at a time, and these would be a perfect fit for the daily thread.

If the folks interested in tidying things up a bit here decide to take this on, all these considerations should be taken into account. :)

I'm svelting! 08-20-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445513)
I understand, and agree that some topics merit a dedicated thread... but we get a lot of introductions ("Hi, I'm new here...") or narrow focus subjects ("Can we eat such-and-such on this diet) that require only a brief response, then they roll onto the back pages somewhere. It's easier to keep up with a few threads than dozens at a time, and these would be a perfect fit for the daily thread.

If the folks interested in tidying things up a bit here decide to take this on, all these considerations should be taken into account. :)

I agree that questions should be asked in the daily threads. Regular longer-term IP forum posters can point new people to useful information and it's difficult for us to stay on top of all the new question threads. Quite frankly, upon seeing all the new topics each and every day in the last few days and I've rolled my eyes and gone to the daily chat and the others I'm interested in.

I don't know how to encourage new folks to post in the daily chat other than suggesting it in the new threads. I've done that and been thoroughly ignored. My hardball solution is don't read, don't post in the new threads other than to provide a link to the main forum and to the current daily chat. I do know that this is a pass-hole aggress-hole move. Surely there probably are more constructive, helpful ways ... suggestions?

Novak 08-20-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lcw32 (Post 3445703)
I agree that questions should be asked in the daily threads. Regular longer-term IP forum posters can point new people to useful information and it's difficult for us to stay on top of all the new question threads. Quite frankly, upon seeing all the new topics each and every day in the last few days and I've rolled my eyes and gone to the daily chat and the others I'm interested in.

I don't know how to encourage new folks to post in the daily chat other than suggesting it in the new threads. I've done that and been thoroughly ignored. My hardball solution is don't read, don't post in the new threads other than to provide a link to the main forum and to the current daily chat. I do know that this is a pass-hole aggress-hole move. Surely there probably are more constructive, helpful ways ... suggestions?

I've done the same, and even moved the question to another location and answered it there, instead. I bumped up the thread discussing how to make the forum more efficient, in hopes that the folks interested in doing that will get us better organized and well-informed about IP board etiquette.

It seems like we've had a growth spurt recently, and just need to regroup and get a handle on it. I fear that having too many threads reduces the amount of useful discussion, and people aren't getting the benefit of having lots of eyes on their posts.

Stacey41 08-20-2010 02:09 PM

This whole thing in the last week of making a new thread for every single question is making me crazy. The thing that really irks me is that rather than taking a few minutes to look through the stickies, a new thread is automatically started with the question. With so much of that to wade through, it makes it very hard provide support as it is difficult to get through everything. I just cannot do it anymore. I'm going to just read the daily thread and the Labor Day challenge thread from now on.

Novak 08-20-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey41 (Post 3445795)
This whole thing in the last week of making a new thread for every single question is making me crazy. The thing that really irks me is that rather than taking a few minutes to look through the stickies, a new thread is automatically started with the question. With so much of that to wade through, it makes it very hard provide support as it is difficult to get through everything. I just cannot do it anymore. I'm going to just read the daily thread and the Labor Day challenge thread from now on.

Hey, what about the Life After Phase 1 thread? :?: (You're practically there!)

Stacey41 08-20-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445829)
Hey, what about the Life After Phase 1 thread? :?: (You're practically there!)

Oh yes, I plan to read that one too! Much information have my wise friends, take their advice I will. :)

Linden 08-20-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445761)
It seems like we've had a growth spurt recently, and just need to regroup and get a handle on it. I fear that having too many threads reduces the amount of useful discussion, and people aren't getting the benefit of having lots of eyes on their posts.

This is a totally unverified and unscientific observation, but I think that while there are many more threads the past week, there are actually fewer posts. Neither is desirable, really.

And I'm not sure new members are totally at fault for seeing the creation of a new thread as the way to communicate. Most probably come to the site by searching for a single topic, or for IP. What they usually get are citations to single threads rather than this site, per se.

If there were some way to redirect them to http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/, as one or two of you have suggested, it might help. Adding more basic information and answers to questions that are asked over and over again to the Tips for Newbies sticky might help, too. But first it has to be chock full of good tips or citations to other threads with a title for each post that makes searching easier.

And finally, but I feel this strongly, new members should gently be encouraged to read more, if nothing else to avoid the embarrassment of showing that they haven't done any research. The one thing I find painful about this new turn of events is that some people have begun to use others as an information-on-call attendant, or as their personal encyclopedia. No matter how encouraging, informed, or patient members are, that's not exactly fair and is a serious infringement on their time.

(Of course, if the search engine really worked. . . .)
:^:

Well that's my penny, for what it's worth.

nitenic 08-20-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445513)
I agree. :)
I understand, and agree that some topics merit a dedicated thread... but we get a lot of introductions ("Hi, I'm new here...") or narrow focus subjects ("Can we eat such-and-such on this diet) that require only a brief response, then they roll onto the back pages somewhere. It's easier to keep up with a few threads than dozens at a time, and these would be a perfect fit for the daily thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcw32 (Post 3445703)
I agree that questions should be asked in the daily threads. Regular longer-term IP forum posters can point new people to useful information and it's difficult for us to stay on top of all the new question threads. Quite frankly, upon seeing all the new topics each and every day in the last few days and I've rolled my eyes and gone to the daily chat and the others I'm interested in.

I don't know how to encourage new folks to post in the daily chat other than suggesting it in the new threads. I've done that and been thoroughly ignored. My hardball solution is don't read, don't post in the new threads other than to provide a link to the main forum and to the current daily chat. I do know that this is a pass-hole aggress-hole move. Surely there probably are more constructive, helpful ways ... suggestions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3445761)
I fear that having too many threads reduces the amount of useful discussion, and people aren't getting the benefit of having lots of eyes on their posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey41 (Post 3445795)
This whole thing in the last week of making a new thread for every single question is making me crazy. The thing that really irks me is that rather than taking a few minutes to look through the stickies, a new thread is automatically started with the question. With so much of that to wade through, it makes it very hard provide support as it is difficult to get through everything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3445926)
This is a totally unverified and unscientific observation, but I think that while there are many more threads the past week, there are actually fewer posts. Neither is desirable, really.

And I'm not sure new members are totally at fault for seeing the creation of a new thread as the way to communicate. Most probably come to the site by searching for a single topic, or for IP. What they usually get are citations to single threads rather than this site, per se.

If there were some way to redirect them to http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/, as one or two of you have suggested, it might help. Adding more basic information and answers to questions that are asked over and over again to the Tips for Newbies sticky might help, too. But first it has to be chock full of good tips or citations to other threads with a title for each post that makes searching easier.

And finally, but I feel this strongly, new members should gently be encouraged to read more, if nothing else to avoid the embarrassment of showing that they haven't done any research. The one thing I find painful about this new turn of events is that some people have begun to use others as an information-on-call attendant, or as their personal encyclopedia. No matter how encouraging, informed, or patient members are, that's not exactly fair and is a serious infringement on their time.

(Of course, if the search engine really worked. . . .)
:^:

Well that's my penny, for what it's worth.

I'm in the "use the daily thread" camp for all of the reasons stated above. I'm much less inclined to post these days with all of the repetitive threads. I understand it's not anyone's fault but I hope we can get it together so that we don't all get burned out from coming here because it's such a motivational tool and a great source of support when it functions well!

Novak 08-20-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3445926)
The one thing I find painful about this new turn of events is that some people have begun to use others as an information-on-call attendant, or as their personal encyclopedia. No matter how encouraging, informed, or patient members are, that's not exactly fair and is a serious infringement on their time.

AMEN to that, sister!! It's been going on for a while now, I'm afraid, but it seems even more prevalent lately. I know Jordanna got worn out from it when she was still active here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitenic (Post 3445965)
I'm in the "use the daily thread" camp for all of the reasons stated above. I'm much less inclined to post these days with all of the repetitive threads. I understand it's not anyone's fault but I hope we can get it together so that we don't all get burned out from coming here because it's such a motivational tool and a great source of support when it functions well!

Here's what I predict will happen: Carla will swoop in and read every post in every thread that she hasn't already responded to. After posting her replies to those, she will calmly assess the situation and present some completely logical solution that will make everyone happy... and she'll probably decorate it with snazzy graphics. :D

Then we'll all say, "That makes perfect sense, Carla. Thank you for once again speaking with a voice of reason and diplomacy." (Or words to that effect.) And the use of hugging smilies will go into overdrive. :hug:

Novak 08-20-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey41 (Post 3445914)
Oh yes, I plan to read that one too! Much information have my wise friends, take their advice I will. :)

:lol:

nitenic 08-20-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3446046)
Here's what I predict will happen: Carla will swoop in and read every post in every thread that she hasn't already responded to. After posting her replies to those, she will calmly assess the situation and present some completely logical solution that will make everyone happy... and she'll probably decorate it with snazzy graphics. :D

Then we'll all say, "That makes perfect sense, Carla. Thank you for once again speaking with a voice of reason and diplomacy." (Or words to that effect.) And the use of hugging smilies will go into overdrive. :hug:

:rofl:

You're the best Novak. :hug: (yep, you knew it was coming! ;))

I'm svelting! 08-20-2010 08:23 PM

Almost all previous posts would get a "LIKE" button click or an "EXACTLY" click from me.

Here's my default text to put in as a reply to the question threads:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcw32 (Post 3446223)
There are experienced IP followers who are willing to answer your questions. They have lost 50, 80 pounds and more -- they've walked the path you're on and have reached the destination. Trust me, you want their insight.

If you post in the daily chat thread, you're more likely to get an answer from them. It may feel a little uncomfortable just jumping in. But, it will be worth it. Come join us.:hug:

How to find the daily chat thread
  1. Navigate to the IP main forum
  2. Look for a thread called IP Daily Chat with the current day's date in numbers, e.g. IP Daily Chat 8/20/2010
  3. Click on the thread, read or just click to the last page
  4. Post your message
  5. Wait for replies!
Here's a link to the main forum
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/

Off to figure out how to automate it!

Novak 08-20-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcw32 (Post 3446227)
Almost all previous posts would get a "LIKE" button click or an "EXACTLY" click from me. Here's my default text to put in as a reply to the question threads: Off to figure out how to automate it!

Hey, you're not Carla!! :D

I'm svelting! 08-20-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3446230)
Hey, you're not Carla!! :D

Hey you're right, I'm not Carla. :D I'll take it as a compliment that my comment might be as sensible as one of Carla's.

Novak 08-20-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcw32 (Post 3446244)
Hey you're right, I'm not Carla. :D I'll take it as a compliment that my comment might be as sensible as one of Carla's.

Oh, absolutely! The highest of compliments, indeed! :D

Rocky Monarch 08-20-2010 10:40 PM

LMAO
I love you guys...so glad I found IP so I could get to know you all!

pumpkyparry 08-20-2010 11:31 PM

Way to go people!!!!! Whatever happens, the people here are the very best....so helpful.

I had an epiphany today....always thought I had no shoulders and preferred clothes with shoulder pads (which you know have been out of style for the past few years) WELL...all of a sudden I notice I'm starting to look like the hanger is still in my clothes. !! Whoot Whoot Whoot

My guess is when the weight started to leave my outer arms, my shoulders just became more pronounced. Every day it's something new with Ideal Protein!!! Gotta love it.....and I feel so healthy too. As the French would say "Vive la Difference"

6710 08-20-2010 11:39 PM

I'm out
 
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...ml#post3446457

Kelsey 08-21-2010 09:49 AM

my apologies...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6710 (Post 3446461)

A big apology to 6710 aka Rosie, and anyone else that feels their efforts have been lost on organizing the thread. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I was merely sharing an opinion on how things were for me when I come to the boards these days. I did not mean to be malicious or insensitive. Again, I'm sorry. I will continue to read the DAILY thread, and ignore all the rest unless there is something that really catches my eye. I guess that's the point, aye?

Novak 08-21-2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelsey (Post 3446770)
I did not mean to be malicious or insensitive. I will continue to read the DAILY thread, and ignore all the rest unless there is something that really catches my eye. I guess that's the point, aye?

Being mean is MY job, so cut it out. :club:

But yes, the quick personal fix is to ignore threads you don't want to read, and they will quickly scroll down. And bump up anything you want to put back on the front page. Kind of like when you get a magazine and have to pull out all the inserts before you read it, so it doesn't keep opening to the pages you're not interested in... :D

(I assume other people "prune" their magazines before reading, but maybe it's just me :?:)

Kelsey 08-21-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novak (Post 3446834)
Being mean is MY job, so cut it out. :club:

But yes, the quick personal fix is to ignore threads you don't want to read, and they will quickly scroll down. And bump up anything you want to put back on the front page. Kind of like when you get a magazine and have to pull out all the inserts before you read it, so it doesn't keep opening to the pages you're not interested in... :D

(I assume other people "prune" their magazines before reading, but maybe it's just me :?:)

LOL, yes, you're correct, madam being mean is your job! You can have it. ;)

(and yes, I prune my magazines too, but then for whatever reason I still seem to always look at them from back to front)


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