DK- Thanks for the inspiring post. The only nerve you struck with me is the one that wants me to feel sorry for myself. Not anymore, focus, focus, focus, and WIN!:D
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For all those wondering about summer squash/yellow squash/crooked neck being allowed on the plan: summer squash all varities – yellow, banana, crookneck, straightneck http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2749/2 1cup cooked is 8g carb 3g fiber NET CARB 5g Zucchini squash (another summer squash variety) http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2640/2 1 cup cooked is 7g carb 3g fiber NET CARB 4g There is a very negligible difference in the summer squash. There is NO difference in sugar content when cooked. According to my regional, there are too many veggies (thousands) to put on a handout. If it is like zucchini in nutrition and glycemic level (they are the same) then, either type is usable. I have used it from the beginning. And, I have even had several weeks with 6 or 8 pound losses on the same week I included it in my plan. I eat about 1 to 1-1/2 c a week. Quote:
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It might look something like: up 6am within .5 to 1.5 hrs eat breakfast wait 2 hrs eats veggies, wait 2 - 3 hrs eat salad and lunch protein, wait 3 hours eat veggies, wait 3 hours eat dinner protein and salad, wait 3 hours have pm protein snack, wait 4 to 5 hours have another protein shake, 3 hours have veggies, 2 -3 hrs have lunch protein and salad/veggies, 3 hours have salad, 2 -3 hours have dinner protein and veggies, wait 1.5 to 3 hours have your pm snack and GO HOME TO SLEEP! :) Get plenty of water, stay well hydrate when you are up so long. The eating times are like this if you started in the am and ran a 30 hour shift. (730a, 930a, 1230p, 4p, 7p, 10p, 2a -3a, 6a, 8 - 9a, 12noon, 2-3 pm, 330p -6pm.) Make the modification to the start time if it is and afternoon or pm start time and then adjust everything down line accordingly. We eat the way we do to keep the metabolism running. We fast at night because we sleep and are inactive but, we have the snack late to prevent us from falling out of the metabolic state overnight. If you are constantly working, MY OPINION, is adjust your food to fit your day. When you sleep you won't eat and you will shift your schedule accordingly for those days. Quote:
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Realize you are learning how to do this. Become aware of how you use food in all its ways. Changing what you eat is a part of our battle but you must also change how you manage your body's response to stress. Eating tackles that stress from a chemical angle. Not bad short term but AWFUL long term. Basically, your body needs more serotonin or testosterone to combat the adrenal push or the brain chemistry change you experienced. Another option is your cortisol gets pushed in a stress situation, is balanced by insulin which skyrockets, you have too not enough blood sugar, or too little to work with, you are hyperinsulinemic, you crave a food (carb or fat likely) to balance the insulin and the craving cycle has begun. DID YOU KNOW that when you exercise your body will break down the insulin without the added available sugar? Did you know when you exercise your testosterone is slightly increased and will balance adrenal hormone activity? DID you know that with exercise cortisol is more efficiently broken down in the body? DID you know that with exercise serotonin goes up? EXERCISE when you feel stressed. ALSO, grab a glass of water and a teaspoon of omega oil or olive oil. The oil will satisfy the brain chemistry fairly quickly and water has been proven to stop cravings EVEN in mid binge. It won't be perfect at first. You have to retrain your habits. Even if the next time you must stop yourself in mid craving it is better than doing what you really will not like looking back at. Keep trying, you have been doing well! Quote:
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[QUOTE=BlueMermaid;3267093WELCOME TO ALL THE NEWBIES. This is a great forum and someone will usually give you some great advice. If we are slow to offer advice, go searching on some of our previous weeks. You will learn lots if you can read as many of the threads as possible. :welcome:[/QUOTE] HEY THERE!!! How have you been this past week? I have been wondering as I haven't seen you as much. YOU ARE MISSED BY ME! :) Quote:
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I stuck close to IP for quite a while on the diet mainly so i could get the protocol down pat. The Ideal Protein foods and protein packets are based on the science developed by Dr. Tran Tien Chan - it's called the Unbalanced Diet. Check it out on his website and download his book but don't stare at his hair too long or you'll fall into a fit of the giggles. He mentions the option of using bulk protein products but does say that using protein packets will lessen boredom and therefore tend to increase success - as i recall he doesn't specifically talk about Ideal Protein products. Both Ideal Protein and Matol have Dr Tran as their diet guru. After I had the Unbalanced diet protocol down, I did switch a couple of things around - I used liquid eggs for breakfast - substantially cheaper - 3/4 of a cup (1/2 of flavored or plain plus 1/4 of liquid egg white) vs. 1/2 cup of IP eggs gives you the same carbs, calories and protein. Cholesterol and fat free too. I still use the liquid eggs. I bought and tried some vanilla and unflavored protein powders - i used these a bit but had to work at developing meals a bit more - IP is just so darn convenient. Others have used various products with lots of success - Lindora, Newlifestyle diet, EAS shakes, all products that people have mentioned here. If you're concerned about money, i suggest you start with IP and once you have the diet figured out - look around and figure out what works for you. To me it's the Ideal Protein way of dieting that's important - not the ideal protein packets. |
Mom22, thanks for your kind and speedy response. It would be nice to be able to discuss alternative products on this thread. I totally agree that it's not so much the IP packets, especially if Dr. Tran T. Chan himself has discussed bulk protein as an option. I understand the "fixing of the pancreas" and following the IP way. Again, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!
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ALSO, about the ketosis, dark sticks?? Are you hydrated enough? Dark is usually not the goal you want. It can indicate you are becoming a little acidic too. Just think because of what you say being a fast oxidizer. Ok, I am making a huge leap/assumption here, based on your back gound in personal training and your knowledge of your health conditions, and thinking when you say "fast oxidizer" you are talking about your inner biochemical metabolic state also know as a "sugar burner" or "glucogenic metabolizer". Am I right?? If so, you probably should NOT be doing the boot camp. If you truly are a fast oxidizer, my understanding is, you are burning up your carbs/glucose stores very fast and your diet should have more calories & a large amount of healthy fat and oil and, proteins to balance that oxidation rate. (most fast oxidizers are recommended approx 40% pro/30% fat or more/ 30% or less carbs) When not properly balanced the body, which is prone to being acidic, can go into acidosis. In a state of acidosis the body no longer effectively burns and begins to crave again. The fat is needed to help slow the metabolism down a little bit. Problems are caused by all carbs including complex ones because your body type burns them too quickly so it means watching which you choose. Best choices are asparagus, cauliflower, celery, mushroom, and spinach. Because your body NEEDS fat and protein it will crave it to balance digestion. Best choices, for now, are olive oil, sunflower oil, a good mega 3/6/9 like UDOS or Barleans, COCONUT OIL in moderation, flax oil. You are likely craving the peanut butter because, of all the oils and nuts out their for fast oxidizers, PEANUT is the number 3 best choice for the balance of Proteins and Fats (walnut and pumpkin are better). Also, fast oxidizers need more choline, inositol, selenium, zince, copper, magnesium, and calcium. Ironically, those are all high in nuts. Best meat choices are lamb and beef because of the fat and they will break down more slowly by a fast oxidizer. My understanding is you should avoid caffeine, alcohol, onion, tomato, peppers as they all increase the metabolism/oxidation process and increase the acid state of the body. I am wondering if, given your metabolism, you are losing more slowly because your carb level is too low?? Also, have you mapped out how much you eat, the ratios and all? What about the bootcamp? it appears that roughly 25% of calories are from fat, 25% from carbs, and around 50% from protein if I do a sample day, picking the IP packets and foods that are highest in fat and protein and calories. That really means you are limited to the choc, vanilla, strawberry, and butterscotch puddings. Choc drink mix, pina colada, ready made vanilla or chocolate drink, and maybe the mango drink but it has no fat. You might try increasing your UDOS oil or Omega oil, maybe add some coconut oil if you want to control the hunger or fat craving. Maybe, not having that 5th IP Pkt of Protein. I have an idea that you burn food so fast that you are slowed down by 1: not enough fat and 2: not enough calories 3: protein above 45% of caloric intake. What are your thoughts?? Here is the sample day foods I worked from: item / portion calories fat grams carb grams protein grams choc pudding/1 pkt 110 1 3 20 milk 1oz 11 0 1 1 chicken soup 1 pkt 100 1 3 18 omelette 1pkt 110 1 3 20 choc drink mix1 crton 100 4 4 15 vanilla pudding 1 pkt 90 1 2 18 olive oil 2tsp 80 10 0 0 lemon juice 1tbsp 7 0 2 0 romaine 1cup 8 0 2 1 asparagus 1cup 40 0 8 4 spinach 1cup 41 0 7 5 broccoli 1cup 54 0 12 4 kale 1/4c 18 .5 3.5 1 cauliflower 1/4c 7 0 1.35 .5 mushroom 1/4c 22 .5 2 1.25 gr. Pepper 1/4c 9.5 0 2.25 .25 zucchini 1/4c 7.25 0 1.75 .25 egg 1 whole lrg 77 5 1 6 3 egg white large 48 0 0 12 TOTALS 939.75 24 58.85 127.25 Sorry, I can't get the column formatting to show in the post... grr. PM me if you want the spreadsheet or, quote this and view it that way. columns should be easier to read then! |
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can you share how long you did the IP protocol with IP before switching to an alternate "products" approach? Did you notice any change in the amount of weight you were losing per week? Was it any more challenging or difficult? Did you still go to an IP coach for weigh-in? Did you notice any other changes in your body after the switch? Were you still using IP supplements? Thanks! |
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HEY THERE!!! How have you been this past week? I have been wondering as I haven't seen you as much. YOU ARE MISSED BY ME! :)[/QUOTE] Hey Carla, I have been around. It is hard to keep up just reading let alone trying to post. I know I can count on you as well as others to inspire and advise the newbies. I think this site is so helpful to everyone especially the new visitors who have many questions. I recommend this site to anyone I know doing IP. I know they can find great support and wonderful information from people like you. I took a break from the diet 2 weeks ago and tried to be strong last week but still fell apart late in the week. I had my weigh in last night and still lost 4 pounds. I was pleasantly surprised but the 2 weeks before when I weighed I had only lost .6 lbs and had expected to lose at least 2 lbs. I think part of the 4 lbs was from before. Oh well, I will take any loss and I am oficially down 40 lbs now. Have a wonderful day everyone!:D |
Carla - thanks for the info! I have my WI tomorrow and will talk with the coach. I think I am going to lay out your suggestion on a spreadsheet and see what she thinks. I am a very visual person!
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I believe I should already fit in it, just want to fit better and maybe even have them take it in a bit LOL Quote:
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Dr. Watson found that certain foods and nutrients were good for each group and that the diet and nutrients that helped one group made the other group worse. Fast-oxidizers felt better on a diet that was high in fatty meats and low in simple carbohydrates. This diet provides fats and purines (a part of RNA and DNA) that are helpful in the processing of fats. Furthermore, fast-oxidizers functioned better using certain vitamins and minerals that are essential for the oxidation of fats. The overall result of using the diet and nutrients for fast-oxidizers is that the processing of fats is speeded up. Foods and nutrients for fast-oxidizers are shown in Table 1. Table 1. Foods and Nutrients for Fast-Oxidizers 1. Proteins: protein foods with a high purine content such as liver, kidney and other organ meats, meat gravies and soups, herring, sardines, mussels and caviar, protein foods with a moderate purine content such as other cuts of meat, chicken, turkey, other fish and seafood, mushrooms, yeast and legumes such as lentils, beans and peanuts 2. Vegetables: purine containing vegetables such as avocado, artichoke hearts, beans, peas, lentils, cauliflower, spinach, asparagus additional vegetables such as carrots and celery 3. Starches: purine containing starches such as whole-grain breads and cereals 4. Sweets: pastries high in fat and low in flour, such as cheese cake, tortes, Danish pastries, etc. 5. Fats: lard and butter 6. Miscellaneous: avoid catchup, spicy sauces, soft drinks, coffee, tea, beer, wine, or other alcoholic beverages 7. Nutrients: Vitamin A, vitamin E, vitamin B12, niacinamide, pantothenic acid, choline, inositol, citrus bioflavonoids, calcium, iodine, phosphorus, sodium and zinc Quote:
I am losing but slowly, I also have purposely backed off from working out but decided to ramp it up again... lets see if that kick starts it too. Your body gets used to anything you do and stops responding so we need to kind of shock it a bit by changing things up ...that's what I am trying to do here. The ZONE type of diet worked quite nicely before with me... but the hormonal thing kind of messed it all up and stalled me... so I'm thinking this is moving it again and hopefully helping me rid my body of that extra Estrogen as well. |
One of the nicest "perks" from losing weight: Being able to shop for bras at Victoria's Secret again. :D Yes, it doesn't take much to make me happy. LOL
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