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Recently I have been wanting to get into modeling *for fun* maybe just starting off making a portfolio for myself for fun maybe never going further than that, just to help me get over my body image issues cause I feel uncomfortable with my new body. I'm really into fashion and I have been looking at model profiles and their stats and they all are really healthy looking girls like they do not look thin to me but their stats are like 5'7 108lbs and I'm looking at the girl and I'm like...shes either shorter than she says or heavier than she says, but maybe I am wrong but all the models I have looked at they list their stats way diff than they look. So whats up with that?

Also I have been rethinking my goal weight cause I really do like a certain body type that I can already tell from my current weight I will not have at 135 so I'm thinking 120. I don't want to go below that cause in my head it seems scary but there are girls 5'7 that are under 120 right. I am small framed as well so keep that in mind XD

Edit: Also please don't tell me its insane to be thin or anything about 'curves' and 'real women' lol. If I feel most comfortable at 135, 125, 120, or 115 thats the weight I will choose in the end.

I think if it will be good for you to put together a portfolio, go for it!

As far as the models' stats. . . people fib about their weight all the time. The weight on my driver's lisence has only just become true in the past couple months.

Goal weight is a personal thing. NO one else gets a say in it. You will pick what is right for you when you get there! "Real" women look all different ways, doesn't make them any less real if they have a straight body shape vs. a curvy one!

I don't believe in body shaming ANY size. When people say a women has the body of a boy or some other such comment, it's JUST as rude as an insulting comment about someone being overweight. We all have different bodies, as long as we are healthy and happy, the weight we choose is our decision alone! So I certainly won't tell you it is insane to pick 120 pounds, totally your choice.

I figure there was some fibbing...I guess I don't understand that aspect cause the more weight I lose the more I'm excited to tell my weight! They are all so gorgeous regardless of whether they are actually what weight they say, they are stunning. Whatever weight I choose as to be one where my tummy is flatter thats for sure XD thats my one problem area right now all my weight seems to be there

Well it depends, models aren't known for lifting weights for the most part unless you get into fitness models. Although they aren't as active, we used to have a few shorter women here who wore size 00 and lifted weights, they weighed between 140-160. You get a model who doesn't have a lot of muscle, wears a size 00 and weighing 110 isn't that unusual.

I would say don't worry about a specific number until you get there. Just work towards your goal and re-evaluate the closer you get.

Well these aren't..'fashion' models in the literal sense. They do model clothes, just not the clothes you're gonna find at the mall. They are alternative fashion models. Like goth or pin up.

You have the absolute right to be any size that you want, but personally I am not going to say that it's cool for you to be what is generally accepted as a totally unhealthy weight for your height.

I have never been a model but from everything I have read, it's a TOTALLY messed up industry with extremely sick and unhealthy habits.

I wish you luck!

Jen

XD I don't want to be 108lbs I was just using one models stats cause I thought judging by her normal looking figure she had to be more than that at 5'7. 120 is a healthy weight for 5'7. Nor do I want to work in the modeling industry so much as I want to play around with it for fun

Basically this thread was to ask if thats realistic stats for models because I am wondering if they are in since I was looking at models for inspiration for my own modeling project I want to do to improve my self confidence over my own body issues having never been as small as I am now I am not the least bit confident and feel less confident than I did 140lbs ago and I want that confidence back so I think making my own lil portfolio would help me and I got curious looking at models that I love and their stats. Mouthful run on sentence.

You got me curious. For example, Miranda Kerr (which is, in my opinion, on of the most beautiful woman in the world) is said to be 123 lbs on a website. I guess it really depends of the models..

Edit : I love your new profile picture and hair color, by the way! :)

Thanks. I was originally going to go white blonde but everyones made such a fuss for me to stay strawberry. I googled pics of miranda kerr and if shes 123lbs than the models I was looking at are probably in the 130s or at the lowest 120lbs cause they are a couple inches short but I doubt the 100-108lbs stats they were saying they were XD

CherryQuinn, if modelling is something you're passionate about, go for it! If you think it will make you happy and feel better about yourself, where's the harm?!

As for your goal weight, always go with what you think is good for you. It's a personal choice! By all means take advice on board, but if you don't want too don't let anybody change your mind - I changed mine from 120 to 130 because people kept telling me that 120 was too low, and you know what? I'm going to change it back right now! I am also small framed, and I think that will be a fine weight for both of us :)

Hey, CherryQuinn, I just wanted to poke my head in here & say I think you could totally do modeling of whatever type you want. You are gorgeous, very exotic looking. I have thought that every single time I have seen your profile pic but I have no idea about the stats of models or anything like that...

I like the new hair color as well. I have white blonde hair & freaking love it. I think that would look good on you as well.

I am not a model, but I know some and some photographers.

Models often lie about their weight or height because photographers and agents have a preconceived notion about what a certain weight "looks like".

For instance, if you say you weigh 100-110 (you're automatically a 00), if you weigh 150 you're automatically a plus size model.

Never trust stats on head shots, portfolios, or websites.

Cherry - I think that putting together a modeling portfolio would be a fun project for you, you should totally go for it!

Are you familiar with www.mybodygallery.com? (The site has been mentioned a lot on this forum, so maybe you're already familiar with it). I like to browse it from time to time to get a feel for different weights, it helps me to keep things in perspective.

Thank you :) I am still considering white blonde but I'm not sure yet.

To reply to others, I think the models did indeed fudge their numbers a little bit. They are all 2-6 in size but with their heights they are probably 120s and not 100-110lbs . I think 120 for me is as well a psychological thing since ive always been told it was the number I'd never reach

5'7" and 120lbs? Sounds perfectly reasonable and healthy. To best reach that weight I would advise you to do as little physical activity as possible, and eat a diet very low in protein. This will ensure that you lose as much muscle and bone density as possible.

Good luck.

Oh... my......

Thank you for your very unhelpful comment but I am sure I know my body more than any strange man on the internet. We aren't all built the same , I won't carry 120lbs the same as the next girl and she won't carry it the same as the next girl. Too make sweeping statements is unfair just because you think you're some sort of expert so you think you can judge women who are or want to be smaller.

Nor have I said thats my goal weight but its something I'd consider if I reached my current goal weight and was still chubby which with my frame is quite possible and I was that weight before and still chubby.

To say what you have said is to say women at that height and weight must all be unhealthy and thats simply not true.

I am telling you how to best achieve your goal. It has nothing to do with "sweeping statements" about health, fairness or how you're built. If you are attempting to weigh 120lbs at 5'7" your best bet is to get rid of as much muscle as possible. The best way to do that is to not exercise and reduce protein intake. The simple fact is that you were (according to your stats) 335 lbs at one point and therefore you would have had quite a bit of muscle at one point.

You can take my advice or not. Your choice.

I won't comment on your goal, these things are very personal! That said, I know I personally do better with more flesh than not and leaning down enough to hit 120, with my frame, is a terrible idea. Too much muscle wasting. 130 should be very doable, especially given that I'm not done having children and want something not too challenging to maintain/get back down under when postpartum.

Weight is somewhat irrelevant, really, when it is a look your going for. I'd focus on what you can comfortably maintain with your specific body, and what aesthetic you want to achieve (provided it isn't entirely wacky and unhealthy to try and attempt with your body ;) ).

5'7 and 120lbs is a perfectly reasonable size for a normal person. Yes, overweight people carry more muscle mass just by the fact they are carrying a larger amount of weight all day long, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all overweight women have tons of muscle mass once the weight comes off. Most overweight women are quite disappointed to find the opposite (men get away with this a little easier). OP should just work towards her goal and if she suddenly finds herself with an excess of muscle mass then she can deal with it, but I wouldn't pre-emptive strike it like that.

XD I only said I was considering lowering my goal. The main topic on this thread was whether the models who have the look I'd love to have were fudging their numbers or not because I don't want to have to be 108lbs to get that look. As for if I have excess muscle mass from when I was 335, I doubt that. That was years ago and I wasnt 335 for long, most of my overweight years I spent at 220-240 . I was involved in football (soccer) and cadets but that was when I was a normal weight. I may have gained muscle from just being overweight but being I spend all day researching I doubt itll stick around.

I have seen a lot of really low goal setting around here lately. I never know what to say because in the end, I think most people decide how much time and energy they want to devote to staying a certain weight and they often decide that being able to say, "I'm in the 120s" isn't worth it.

As I understand it, the most conservative estimates (doctors chart and such) say 100 pounds even at 5' and five extra pounds for every inch in height after that. Those standards were set along ago and considered to be the very low end.

Obviously, everyone will do what he or she likes but 120 for a 5'7" inch person is going to be a full time job and IS 15 pounds lower than any doctor I've seen has ever recommended.

My doctors have actually said 120-130 for my body type and height. I have health issues that prevent me from eating pretty much any 'bad' food. I will never again be able to eat like I used too and will have difficulty eating like a normal person. Its hard to even eat what I eat now. So staying in the 120s if thats what I decided to do would not be an issue at all. I lost weight because my liver was not functioning correctly as well as a host of other issues. I didn't lose to be skinny but its a happy byproduct of an otherwise terrible situation.

And again I also never said I was actually going to 120 only its something I'd consider if I was unhappy at 135 but the reality is 135 might be too heavy for me to maintain with my food difficulties anyways unless I ate nuts all day to make calorie numbers.

I honestly did not want to get into my health issues again on this site but the simple fact is food hurts me in various ways and thus is not pleasurably for me, I eat to survive and eat what won't hurt me. Its not my fault I am not doing it cause of some crazy ideas or trends , I used to be able to gorge on whatever I wanted, but now my body rejects almost everything and I am being tested to see whats going on. This is my new normal with food and its something I have to live with. I do not eat like everyone else cause my body does not function like everyone elses. I wish it did. But this is my new normal. I understand its difficult to understand for those who don't have body issues with food.

If you have a very specific diet, why not just focus on staying on that diet and let your weight naturally settle?

Actually one of my best friends is a former model... she did mostly runway... but she would actually lie about her height because she was usually too tall a lot of the time for most jobs... but not for runway... those girls are tall... I have a another good friend in PR so he always invites me to the shows that he handles during Fashion Week here in nyc.... and I'm 5'9" and I feel like a midget around those girls... and I won't even talk about how skinny they are because that's a whole other story...

Now from what I've seen I wouldn't be surprised if models were "fudging" their stats that they might be putting out online, but as far as going for jobs they get weighed and measured and if you're not exactly what they want... well than that's pretty much it...

The other thing too is it really is true that the camera does add 10 to 20lbs... because I also have several friends who are actors and have been on soaps and TV shows... and they are so thin in person, but on TV they just look like they're a normal weight... which still never ceases to amaze me...

I'm sorry, but I must disagree that 5'7 and 120lbs is not realistic or difficult to maintain or takes a lot of work. I think that is projecting weight issues onto the rest of the population. 5'7 and 120lbs is not abnormal.

Well because I need to lose weight for my health issues and I do not want to blindly trust that the few foods I can eat won't be over my calories and cause me not to lose the weight I need to. Though judging by the amount I can eat before getting sick if I let it settle naturally I would be dangerously thin so I also count calories to make sure I am not dangerously low even if that means adding in a high cal cookie or nuts to make sure I am not eating like 500 calories a day. Basically counting calories keeps me safe from being too high or too low. My diet restrictions make the going too high pretty much impossible but I am a very paranoid about it anyways , but I'm mostly at danger of being too low.

If I let my body naturally settle without any hand into it I'd probably end up 90lbs with the way I eat if I do not monitor it. Thats why I have doctors I see that help me with my food issues and weight issues. They aren't afraid of me regaining they are afraid I won't be able to stay above underweight because of my food issues.

Also everyone has a goal weight or body aesthetic they have in their mind. Why should I be different? I'm already abnormal enough , can't I have that little bit of normalcy with having an ideal body image in my head like most other people? Grant me some normalcy.

The actual number is really irrelevant. As long as you're eating a healthy amount of calories, exercising, and taking care of your body, it really doesn't make a difference what the scale reads. You can determine if you need to modify your eating or exercise routine as you get closer to where you want to be.

In terms of modeling for fun, I'd do it! Go ahead and take pics and create the portfolio! It sounds like fun :)

Thank you. I started this thread out of curiousity if the girls that had the look I'd loveee to have fudged their numbers cause I was curious at too what ballpark I'd have to aim for to have a chance at all of getting where I'd love to be. I offhandedly said I was reconsidering my goal weight cause I have so much chunk left on me and I'm small framed and 120 is lowest I'd ever go and boom it blew up into this omg 120lbs is unhealthy thread!!!! I sort of expected it cause I have noticed that on this site there is quite a bit of paranoia surrounding slimmer weights. I'm not talking underweight numbers, but if a number is 5 or 10lbs below the 'norm' and 'average' people tend to go on these tangents about it. I don't imagine this a fun environment for people on the slimmer side of the weight scale. I imagine its partly culture and for people used to being large it can be difficult to imagine being healthy at the lower end of the norm for a height. Thats my ideas about why this thread turned the way it did lol.

My ex is a professional photographer. This is true.

I say, keep doing what your doing weight loss wise and get to where you want to be. Everyone here is going to jump down your throat if you mention a goal that is not the "norm" or "healthy" weight they think it should be. That's just the way this forum is as most here want to promote health rather than "trying to get super skinny". It comes from a good place, but gets a little much sometimes.

As for your modeling passion, you should always pursue your passion! Look for a photographer in your area that you love the work of and contact them for a shoot. You can definitely get a photographer that is just starting out and wants to build their own portfolio and get them done for free. Don't pay.

One of the most important things about being a model, besides looking great in photos obviously, is to be professional about it. Even if you are just starting out, don't be flaky. Show up, show up on time, with everything the photographer asks you to bring. Be versatile, bring tons of outfit changes, if you can do your own makeup that's a bonus. Have your own photoshoot ideas but be willing to work with the photographer creatively, don't just stand there hoping to look good. Be up front with what you will and will not do.

If you know good locations for a shoot, let the photographer know. Me and my ex were always looking for good locations and while some are obvious, some are tough to find. We found abandoned shipping buildings with brightly colored garage doors, an old sunken boat with an old cabin beside it that the owner let us shoot in front of (and even inside!), etc. If it's a male photographer, bring a friend. Don't go alone with anyone to an abandoned warehouse LOL!!!

Good luck! :-)

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This - I was thinking about this the other day and wondered WTH ? Why Why Why !!! Why DOES the camera put on extra poundage ?

Also, good luck with your pursuits. I have learned, albiet a little later in life, that I need to find out what is purposeful in my life and if it makes me (you) happy and doesn't hurt anyone else ---- Do what makes you happy !

I always find it funny how quick people are to jump all over someone with a lower (but still healthy) goal weight, often siting BMI saying that puts you at or near underweight (BTW as an example 5'7" and 120 pounds is still in NORMAL range). Yet when people want to "settle" for a weight that is still considered overweight all of a sudden BMI is outdated and useless and doesn't take body frame into account.

GOAL WEIGHTS ARE PERSONAL. No one derseves to be judged for them, especially when they don't have a goal of being unhealthy. If you're healthy at a higher BMI, that is GREAT!!!! If you are healthy at the lowest end or even a teeny bit into the underweight end, SUPER! Sometimes this site is only supportive as long as you don't want to be too small. UG! Just as some people have (or claim to have) very large frames, believe it or not some people have very small ones too. I ALWAYS thought I had a large frame and was "big boned". Turns out it was fat. GO figure. I actually have a very small frame, and have adjusted my goal weight several times according to this. Honestly, I will probably drop it again once I get to 130. This is uncharted territory for me so I have no idea where I'll end up. /rant


ANYWAY!!!!!!!!

This thread got me thinking yesterday so I started googling different models and actresses measurements and heights and weights. They vary so much depending on what site you find. I tend to think that any info out there on any model or actress is not accurate. Either the height is off or the weight is off or both. I wouldn't believe any of it unless I saw the person weighed and measured in front of me.

If you find out the answer to this please let me know... Because this really p***** me off too... Lol... :)

I have an answer for this. Optical flattening (it has to do with parallax). The way a camera lens operates, especially with flash, takes a three dimensions object and makes it, essentially, two dimensional to the eye. So much of the contouring of a real body is let, even if we can 'see' the curves and shadows as recorded, they don't register in our brains the same way.

This explains it quite well :)
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...en-pounds-plus

Thanks... I knew there had to be a reasonable explanation... makes sense... But I swear I still think the camera makes me look "extra" bigger than other people... lol... :D