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MrsJim 03-31-2004 08:57 PM

Here It Is! My Big Weight Loss Secret!!!
 
Okay, I knew you'd look! :lol:

The truth is, I get PMs asking 'what my secret was to lose the weight' often. I'm sure I'm not the only one...and thus, this post.

"What's your secret?"

"Did you use diet pills?"

"Can you tell me how to do it?"

Well...the big secret is...there is no secret.

I remember watching an Oprah video that she released in conjunction with "Make the Connection" back in 1995 or thereabouts. She said something that stuck with me and RESONATED. Okay, I can't quote it WORD for WORD, but basically she was talking about the Majic Pill. Paraphrasing here: "If there was a magic pill to melt off the fat, I would have it. I would take all my money, I would go to the mountain and buy the potion. I would have it. I would have it."

But as Oprah said...there IS no potion. Proof of that are the many, many famous, fabulously rich people who have everything yet still struggle with their weight. Who comes to mind? Oprah...Anna Nicole Smith...Liz Taylor...Kirstie Alley...et cetera. If there was a majic pill, they would have it. (BTW, I'm sure that ANS' recent weight loss is strictly temporary, based on recent interviews where she claimed not to exercise or eat healthfully - she just 'stopped eating' which means a binge is likely imminent IMO.)

As Dr. Phil so wisely said in his recent best-selling book, obesity and overweight cannot be CURED, they can only be MANAGED. We ALL have the propensity to put on the pounds - it's part of our genetics, since we didn't always sit on our butts in front of a computer, then come home and watch TV and eat pre-prepared food. I'm just one generation away from farmers (Dad's side) and coal miners (Mom's side) who did hard manual labor 12 hours a day, came home, did chores around the house and sat down to dinner. And 'dinner' didn't mean going to the store and picking up something to toss in the microwave or even the electric or gas oven. For both my parents growing up, dinner and other meals meant fattening up and butchering their own meat, planting, growing and gathering their own vegetables and fruits, grinding their wheat and rye into flour, chopping wood for the stove that cooked their food (well in my Dad's case anyway...they were pretty much dirt poor). Preparing a meal was a HUGE job back then. (If you got a chance to see it, or can check it out of the library - PBS did a show called "Frontier House" that shows exactly how much work was involved without electricity or any of the modern conveniences...I'm waiting to see "1940's House" which is coming up soon...)

And the meals were not loaded with sugar either. As my Dad never tires of telling me, sugar was a luxury for them - one of the only things they actually purchased at the store (salt was the other one). Even the desserts such as pies and cakes had relatively little sugar in them in comparision to what we're used to these days.

Anyway...flash forward to the 1950's, the advent of TV, and our GI's back from WWII who were accustomed to eating K-Rations - the early fast food - bland, easy to eat, and with more sugar and fat than 'regular food' to sustain our troops. McDonald's opened their first restaurant in San Bernardino with the bland, cheap, fast food, Ray Kroc stumbled across the store when he was selling milk shake machines, and the rest is history...

Flash forward again to today...2004...most everyone works behind a desk or in a job which requires little manual labor. We're surrounded by cheap, high-calorie food. Thanks to the development of high-fructose corn syrup, it is no longer a luxury to have sweet, sugary food. After work, many of us go and sit in front of the Tee Vee or computer.

And meanwhile, the epidemic of obesity overwhelms us. :(

The secret??? Hard work and persistence kept our grandparents lean...they didn't think about it, work was just part of their day, hard manual labor. Now, we need to do what Dr. Phil calls "Intentional Exercise". And food - our grandparents weren't surrounded by Krispy Kreme donuts and cookies and baskets of candy in their workplaces. It's up to us to be STRONG and resist the temptations placed in our path, and not become The Human Garbage Disposal 'because it's there' to be gobbled up in a few seconds and forgotten a minute later.

Basically, you just have to decide what's more important - a momentary pleasure of sugar and fat or lifelong good health?

I posted the following earlier this week at the Ladies Who Lift forum on our weekly thread in response to a post there:

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[Willingness to do the work] - that's the BIG secret of losing the weight for real. It's not a book or a program or a plan or anything like that, although there are tools that can aid you on your path.

It's WORK. Yup, there's nothing 'easy' or 'effortless' about weight loss, especially when you have a buttload of weight to lose - despite the marketers and advertisers who would have us believe otherwise (as long as you buy their miracle product!). I was there too, so I know, believe me, I remember. It's like someone handing you a teaspoon and a cup, pointing at Mt. Everest, and saying "move this mountain using only this spoon and cup" when you have 100 pounds or more to lose.

I was/am a big fan of Laura Ingalls Wilder and I always remember something her Pa said in one of the Little House Books - I think it was "The Long Winter" when he was digging up the sod for the first time: (paraphrasing here) "Rome wasn't built in a day, nor is anything else worth having".

Nope, losing a lot of weight and (more importantly) keeping it off for good isn't easy, but believe me, it CAN be done - through hard work and (oh yeah) PERSISTENCE! Jeez, I almost forgot about PERSISTENCE...ai yi yi.

And as any of us who have lost a great deal of weight and kept it off can tell you - it's hard work, it takes effort (especially with all the temptations surrounding us these days!) but dang - the rewards are SO RICH. Kind of reminds me of the women I know who've had kids. They've gone through the pain of childbirth (Bill Cosby quoting Carol Burnett on childbirth pain: "Take your lower lip and pull it over your forehead" ), but once their tender new bundle is delivered safe in their arms, the pain is forgotten (I haven't ever given birth myself, but I have three sisters who are all moms plus dozens of friends who are also moms).

I'd also like to recommend (if I haven't already) a little paperback book titled "Diary of a Fat Housewife" by Rosemary Green. (get the paperback rather than the hardcover - it's much more up to date - you should be able to find it pretty cheap at half.com) Rosemary went through the same sort of fat **** and wrote about it at length in her diary. She did eventually get to her goal weight of 135 (and I've heard that she's still at her goal weight after 8 years of maintaining!) and had some terrific insights at the end of the book (I do admit that sometimes during the diary itself she drives me nuts...). Just a must read, IMO - although keep in mind that it is NOT a diet book.

Just don't give up - keep learning and reading and WORKING HARD and you CAN do this! It's not an insurmoutable goal!
A friend of mine, Kristi Larsen, is a certified personal instructor and has done a heckuva lot of research on nutrition and exercise in weight training. (If you don't know who she is, she has a website at www.kristilarsen.com with a ton of info and her journal - you can also subscribe to her e-newsletter as well).

This article is from her latest newsletter...

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The Importance of NUTRITION For Looking Your Best
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Take a look around next time you are in the gym. How many people are pushing huge amounts of weight or running like mad on the treadmills and their bodies seem to always stay the same? The reason a lot of them have not seen a change is because they have not realized how important proper diet is. It's difficult to believe (especially considering the media's influence on diet and exercise) that fat loss is 80% your eating and 20% exercise- give or take a little either way.

Don't make the mistake of thinking there is a diet plan made for you out there and all you have to do is find it. Stop buying bodybuilding, health and fitness magazines looking for the secret diet or training program that will change your life forever.

Those who strive for a stellar physique are continually experimenting with their bodies. Each and every body is different and will respond (or fail to respond) to training and diet in a unique way. What is overtraining for one, is not for another. One may have phenomenal success with a low-carb diet, whereas, another might have minimal results. One person may be able to attain 7% bodyfat with little to no cardio training, when his friend might require two cardio sessions per day to achieve that same body composition. No one said it was fair. But that is reality. In fact, two people with the exact same body composition will not necessarily respond the same to diet and training protocols, and supplementation the same way. To get the results you desire, you MUST customize your program to your body.

"99 percent of the human population are lazy *******s! And 99 percent of the fitness industry plays to this strength." ~Jacob Wilson

Honestly, if you are tired of being overweight and "soft," or if you desperately just want to develop your "six pack," then you must educate yourself and get serious about changing your body. It has to become a priority in your life (at least until you reach your goal). There are no quick fixes, however if you use the right information, you will be able to make dramatic changes to your physical appearance in a very short period of time.

One of the best suggestions for customizing YOUR nutritional approach is to log every morsel you consume. Sounds like a hassle- and maybe it is- but if it got you to the body you desire, would it be worth the trouble? Logging your intake keeps you honest. The New England Journal of Medicine found that when people wrote down what they ate, they had UNDERESTIMATED on average by 1053 kcal/day. That is MAJOR!!!

Logging makes you aware of what you are putting into your mouth over the days/weeks/months (and it all adds up over time) and it just may clearly illustrate why you are not getting the results you expect. Your dietary log can be later used as a concrete tool to seek out professional dietary help.

You can start by logging all foods in Fitday (www.fitday.com) or Excel- especially in the beginning until you know everything by memory. By using a computer program to log your diet helps make sure you are getting the proper ratios of fat/carbs/protein.

Americans are fatter now than ever, even though more Americans are dieting now than ever and over 30 billion dollars per year is being spent on fat loss.

You can't buy fat loss with money. Only with hard work! Quite simply put, there is no easy way out!


"There should be nothing standing between you and your goal. Until you reach your desired body, you should be living, breathing and eating fat loss."
~Anthony Ellis

Summing up...finally... :) Nope, there's no Majic Pill or Potion out there. What magic there is is within each one of us. We ALL have the power inside us to lose the weight - it's in there waiting for us. There truly IS a lean person inside us waiting patiently to be released! Now it's up to each one of you to find her! (and nope, you don't have to pay $153 for it either!)

Wisertime 03-31-2004 10:02 PM

Thank you Mrs Jim, I really enjoy reading your posts!

Lynn

diphthong 04-01-2004 05:35 AM

I don't get it. JUST KIDDING! :lol:

You nailed it, Mrs. Jim. Thanks for the thought provoking message.

dip

Domina 04-01-2004 04:35 PM

Thanks, Mrs. Jim. Those are some great points.

I think the TV has really hurt a lot of Americans because they are absolutely addicted to it. I gave up on TV years ago;it's all a bunch of junk. What happened? A friend asked me to go out with her and do something fun. I told her I couldn't because one of "my shows" was on the boob tube. Later I regretted not going with her and turned the stupid tube off!

Along with the TV comes junk food. For many people, TV-watching goes with eating (mostly foods that aren't good for you.)

I happen to enjoy food which caused me to have a weight problem several years ago. Now I'm approaching two years keeping my weight loss off. I feel so much better. I continue to watch my intake and I continue to exercise.

Thanks again for explaining that there's no magic pill!!

Jennifer 3FC 04-01-2004 09:12 PM

Great Post!! Wonderful reading, ALL so true, and very uplifting. Thanks for sharing!!

GreatBigMonsterMomma 04-04-2004 03:44 PM

It's always good to be reminded of what it really takes.

One of my favorite moments came during a prenatal appointment with my second daughter, when I mentioned to the doctor that I had lost 30 pounds between pregnancies. She asked me how I had done it. That moment is equalled only by the time, in my first pregnancy, when a doctor asked me how I'd gotten pregnant. ;) In both cases, I thought the answer was pretty obvious.

You know, there are magic pills. They are advertised online, in magazines, on the radio, & on TV. Of course, none of them actually work. I have found for myself that exercise feels good (I never really hated myself for being fat, but God I hated myself for being out of shape!) and "real" food tastes better anyway.

MissDiana72 04-15-2004 02:17 AM

Great Thread! Wanna share my story too
 
MrsJim, you are, for lack of a better word, *amazing!*

Thanks for such a great, inspirational piece--my eyes welled up with tears by its end. I joined the message board about 2 mos. ago and wanted to chime in with my own advice to the rest of the Board People.

In a way, I feel sorry for Anna Nicole Smith, because she seems so lost, attention-starved, and I can't even imagine the nutritional catastrophe going on inside her body at the moment. Someone with her kind of money could afford efficient personal trainers, access to state-of-the-art exercise equipment and the best, healthiest foods.

If there's one thing I'll recommend for 'quick weight loss' is RUNNING. 5 years ago I lost 50 lbs in about 3 1/2 mos. by eating low-fat foods, loads of protein and running 6x a week for about 30 min. Though I was never an athletic person, I started by walking around my Company's huge parking lot during breaks, then PowerWalking, gradually increasing the amount of time and speed. By the end of the 1st month I'd lost 10 full lbs. and was running 4 mi. in 40 min. By month #3, I was doing 5Ks.

I moved to Manhattan 2 yrs. ago and most of the weight came back, due to overeating stemming from anxiety and lack of places to run outside. Yes, I got lazy. I refused to run on a treadmill, because doing so was SO boring to me! There's just *something* about running out in the open air!
Anyhow, I am proud to say I have started running again, on a gym's treadmills and am regaining control of my weight. The weather's clearing up, Spring is here, and I'll be running out in a local park very soon. I've already dropped 8 lbs. in a month.

Thanks for your great message to everyone out there!

Diana

Leenie 04-15-2004 01:19 PM

Okay so tell us your secret?

MrsJim 04-15-2004 01:30 PM

Aw jeez youse guys! :)

I wanted to add this from our Meg. I came across this post she wrote this morning on the Support forum in a thread titled "Oh, I Wish This Was Easier...": http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39446

Meg's post is copied here for your reference...

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Originally Posted by Meg
If there’s anyone who can relate to what you’re saying, it’s probably me. :) I walked the same road myself back in 2001 and 2002 and experienced all the same feelings that you talk about in your post. You’re not kidding when you say that losing weight is hard work, but I want to tell you that it’s so so worth it. From where you are now, you have a vision of what your life’s going to be like at goal, right? A dream about how you’re going to look and how you’re going to feel?

OK, I want you to step into my skin for today and feel what it’s like to be me. You with me? You see, I used to think it was all about how I’d look when I got to 135 pounds. I never realized that the pay-off is how good I FEEL. So if you can walk around in my (sweaty gym) shoes for one day, I guarantee that nothing in this world will stop you from losing the rest of the weight.

Here we go!

It’s 4:30 AM and I wake up before the alarm, bursting with energy. I need a lot less sleep now than I did 122 pounds ago. I never dreamed that I could feel so good! The first thing that goes through my mind every day is — woo hoo! I did it! I’m not fat anymore! To me now, every morning is Christmas morning; every day is the best day of my life. :D

I jump out of bed, make coffee, and throw on my gym clothes. That’s a huge change from before, when I was allergic to exercise. :lol: I’m at the gym when it opens and do my cardio for the day, listening to music with a great beat. I notice how much faster and more intensely I can go now than when I was heavy and every day I try to do a little more than the day before. That endorphin rush is a great way to start the day — I’m always so jazzed when I walk out of the gym. :hyper:

Back home to breakfast: oatmeal and chocolate protein powder. The way I eat now and the way I used to eat are like night and day. No more sugar highs and crashes, no more feeling bloated, no more hating myself and feeling controlled by food. I plan my meals for the day and enter them into Fitday.

Then the usual Mom stuff and household stuff. It’s so cool to fly up and down the stairs without having to stop and catch my breath or having my knees and feet hurt. I get my chores done in about half the time it used to take. I love the feeling of being strong just while doing the everyday tasks of life: taking out the trash, carrying the laundry upstairs, hefting the 20# box of kitty litter. :strong:

And then the highlight of my day: back to the gym for weights. The gym was the scariest, most alien place in the world for me when I was heavy and now it’s home. I love lifting weights and love the muscles and the look they give me. I used to be afraid to look in the mirrors at the gym (you know how the walls are lined with mirrors) - now I catch a glimpse of myself and marvel at the stranger who’s looking back at me. How could this be me? I spent all my life as the fat girl and now I have toned arms and little hips. I walk out of the gym on :cloud9: , knowing that I've pushed myself to my limits as I worked to build my best body. Lifting weights has taught me that I have strength and endurance and discipline that I never imagined and it carries over to all other aspects of my life. I know that I’m capable of anything that I set my mind to doing.

Let’s stop and do some clothes shopping on the way home, OK? :) I walk in and bypass the plus sizes and head for all the pretty clothes in the regular sizes. I don’t have to shop for camouflage anymore — no more big T-shirts to hide the butt or long sleeves to cover the jiggle. No more elastic waists or towels strategically covering up my bathing suit. I can look at crop tops and low-rise pants, beautiful (and sexy) lingerie, and tank tops. I see something that I want to try on and look for it in a 4 or a small(which can be hard to find). Now stand in my shoes with me in the dressing room and hold up a pair of jeans in size 4. They’ll never fit, right? They’re WAY too tiny — I used to look at small sizes and think that no one could have a butt small enough to fit in those. :lol: But they slide right up over my hips and fit perfectly (no sucking in the gut). The problem with clothes shopping when I was fat was that nothing looked good. The problem now is that too much looks good — hard on the old budget. :D

Back home, normal life. My dinner’s different from the rest of my family’s but it doesn’t bother me or them a bit. And then to bed, knowing that I physically feel better than I ever have in my life. But more than just how good I feel is the knowledge that I did it! It took me 47 years, but I finally got rid of the fat that weighed down every aspect of my life. There’s no better feeling in the world.

Losing weight — and more importantly — keeping it off is hard work and it’s a job that we’ll have to do for the rest of our lives. It takes sweat, hard work, planning, and self-discipline. You know what to do; like you said, the elements are habit now. But trust me, the pay-off at the end of road is far, far better than you can imagine.

Keep going — you’ve come so far now. When you think about the alternative — going back to being fat and unhappy — really, what choice is there? I guarantee that when you reach your goal (and you will, I’m sure) you’ll agree with me that it was the hardest and, at the same time, the best thing that you ever did in your life.


Sweetmel 04-15-2004 03:24 PM

Wow! I can't wait to feel like that! I 'm just so happy now that I'm in a size 12(14 in some ) and that the smallest size in Avenue it too big for me now makes me really happy. The smallest I've been was a size 7 went I was dancing almost everynight in a dance company. Actually I did get to a size 5 once but it was unhealthy( I couldn't eat because I was scared out of my mind I was pregnant) I didn't grow up with bad eating habits my mother always made for the most part healthy foods for us and gave us fruit for snacks and only made desserts on weekends. We hardly ever had fast food because we were poor! We had pizza once every 2 weeks, the same with KFC or McDonalds It was a treat for us because it cost a lot to feed 5 kids for a struggling family but they did want to give us a treat once in a while and thats what I grew up thinking of it as.
I didn't start gaining weight until after I moved out and had my our money, I kinda went wild with all the choices I had and ate out alot out of boredom too so I never had a
weight problem as a kid because I was always running around playing and when I was a teenager I was busy with my swimteam and dance classes so it wasn't until I got
a desk job and started having afterwork drinks with co-workers and going to all-you-can-eat buffets.

I really like what you said about how there's no "magic bullet" or we would all be thin! But I tkind of makes me mad that It seems that I put this weight in what seems to be such a short time and It's taking a such a long time to get rid of it.

It's not fair! Oh well. thats again for sharing your inspiring story!


Melodie

findingmyself 04-20-2004 05:29 PM

Thank you Mrs. Jim!!!! I have been looking for a miracle even though I know the only miracle that is going to happen is for me to stop eating junk!! Tee Hee. Just kidding. I will stop eating junk. I started exercising and I do well on diet 50 percent of the time. Unfortunately the other 50 percent I spend searching for some easy way out of this bod. I know what it takes yet I am still trying to find some hidden secret. Very catching title.

Thanks again

rochemist 04-21-2004 12:55 PM

Perfect, just perfect Karen and Meg. Also knowing everything about nutrition,dieting, and excercise doesn't work as well as actual application. For some reason I always thought my vast amount of knowledge and research and trying everything would put me a step ahead of the game. I think a wise woman on the LWL board once wrote, "Abs are made in the kitchen". I have not found words that have been more true to my weightloss. Thank goodness Meg said 47 years to get it, at 32 I was beginning to believe I am the worlds slowest learner. :D

Chris

Daisynyc 04-22-2004 11:44 AM

I always love your posts, Mrs. Jim.

You know, for me, it's not trying to find out someone's "secret," as in the Magic Bullet.

Recently, I have started asking people (who, like me, are insulin resistant or diabetic) on this board what eating plan they used or are using simply in an effort to find a place to begin.

So, when I have asked people on this board "how they did it," I guess I don't see the answer as obvious. When I ask "how", I don't mean "did you reduce calorie intake and increase exercise." I mean: did you journal? Did you do a low carb diet? Did you focus on cardio or a mix of training? Did you count calories? Weigh portions? Get group support? What else? Which of these factors helped *you* and why?

I'm just lookin' for ideas. Inspiration. A nudge in the right direction. It is quite possible to work hard at losing weight, restrict calories and not have success.

Maybe when your Dr. asked how you did it, she was just wondering how you overcame the obstacles that throw so many of the rest of us off course. That's really what I mean.

In any event, you're an inspiration. Thanks for the great post.

SHIRLEYQ27 04-22-2004 03:26 PM

Hi I Am New To This Sight My Doctor Has Recently Put Me On Glucophage 500 Mg A Day I Have Lost 11 Pounds In 21 Days. Has Anyone Else Tried This Way Before Please Let Me Know Thank You Chrissy

cathyxxx 04-22-2004 03:35 PM

Hi Shirley! congrats on the weightloss!

I have never heard of Glucophage so I looked it up and it seems to be for "Type 2 Diabetes Control". Do you have sugar diabetes?

SHIRLEYQ27 04-30-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cathyxxx
Hi Shirley! congrats on the weightloss!

I have never heard of Glucophage so I looked it up and it seems to be for "Type 2 Diabetes Control". Do you have sugar diabetes?

HI AGAIN NO I DONT HAVE TYPE 2 DIABETES. THEY STARTED USING GLUCOPHAGE AS A WAY TO ALTER PCOS SYMTOMS. WHEN U HAVE PCOS YOUR BODY RELEASES WAY TO MUCH INSULIN WHEN YOU EAT AND WHAT YOUR BODY DOESNT USE GETS TURNED INTO FAT. SO AFTER 3 YRS OF STUDIES THEY NOW SEE THIS MEDICINE HELPS THE ONLY SIDE AFFECT IS BATHROOM VISITS WICH TO ME DOESNT MATTER AS LONG AS I LOSE WEIGHT. YEAH THERE IS ANOTHER GIRL ON IT AND SHE HAS LOST 60 POUNDS IN 6 MONTHS JUST FROM TAKING A PILL AND FOLLOWING A 1600 DIET. WRITE AGAIN PLEASE LOVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE. CHRISSY

SeekInnerThinChick 04-30-2004 08:24 PM

I just wanted to add something... While losing weight and getting fit is certainly a lot of hard work, it's also a lot of fun, at least for me. Throughout this process, I've met lots of new people, tried out new activities, learned new things, experimented with new foods, and just generally expanded by life and experience in many different directions. I've also improved my health greatly, and become much more relaxed and happy as a result of my new habits. Even the struggles are gratifying, like winning a hard-fought game. So the rewards of a fitter way of life aren't just at the end of the process-- they happen all along the road. It's actually fun! :dizzy:

rochemist 05-21-2004 09:37 PM

Someone quick get this to the top of the posts! Start with page 1, and one day at a time.

Chris

Simplyme 05-27-2004 01:21 PM

I have a question...
I don't really eat unhealthy, and I do keep a food log... On a daily basis I burn more then what I eat.
I typically have a Lite Yogurt for breakfast occassionally accompied with a 'Special K' breakfast bar.
For lunch I either eat a salad or a small portion from the night befores dinner.
For dinner I normally bake chicken or tuna and accompany it with a vegatable.
I drink lots of water, hardly ever any pop, and a couple cups of coffee in the morning (sweetened by 'Sweet n' Low' only).
The worst thing that I do is have a beer or two everyweek.
I rarely snack, and when I do it's normally chips and salsa or a pickle.
All of this maintains my weight at what it is (220lb).

Is there anything else that I can do to help myself lose weight.
Any suggestions?? :?: :?:

MrsJim 05-27-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplyme
I have a question...
I don't really eat unhealthy, and I do keep a food log... On a daily basis I burn more then what I eat.
I typically have a Lite Yogurt for breakfast occassionally accompied with a 'Special K' breakfast bar.
For lunch I either eat a salad or a small portion from the night befores dinner.
For dinner I normally bake chicken or tuna and accompany it with a vegatable.
I drink lots of water, hardly ever any pop, and a couple cups of coffee in the morning (sweetened by 'Sweet n' Low' only).
The worst thing that I do is have a beer or two everyweek.
I rarely snack, and when I do it's normally chips and salsa or a pickle.
All of this maintains my weight at what it is (220lb).

Is there anything else that I can do to help myself lose weight.
Any suggestions?? :?: :?:

Well, first thing I'd ask is...how about exercise? You didn't mention it...

Also, you might want to subsitute something with protein in it for breakfast instead of that Special K Bar, which I would bet has a significant amount of sugar.

This might sound totally loony, but you probably need to be eating more often. (note that I didn't say "eating MORE" - rather than three big meals a day, space out your calories in 5-6 smaller meals. Here's an example (using 'real food', not protein shakes or anything like that).

Breakfast: Hot oatmeal, 2 eggs (or 1 egg + 4 eggwhites) (I generally scramble the egg and whites together or make an omelette - feel free to add veggies such as baby spinach, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc. The more veggies, the merrier! :lol: )

Midmorning snack - piece of fruit (such as an apple or peach) or a "light" yogurt (100 calories or less)

Lunch - Chicken-breast sandwich in a whole-wheat pita with lots of veggies and mustard (no mayo!)

Afternoon snack - piece of fruit (if you're really hungry, add some protein like cottage cheese or a hardboiled egg).

Dinner - lean protein (chicken, fish, lean meat) with lots of veggies, maybe a small yam or baked potato (no sour cream or use the fat-free kind - or try salsa!)

Oh and don't forget portion control - with the exception of vegetables, make sure your portions aren't huge.

Hope that helps :)

Obviously, if you're eating like you posted and maintaining, all you need to do is 'nudge' the caloric intake/outtake a bit to start losing!

Simplyme 05-27-2004 04:28 PM

The only real thing I do for excersising is I walk, at a faster pace then normal but not power walk, about 1 1/2 to 2 miles per day (it's the dog factor). Plus I go out dancing one night a week for about 4 hours. Also, on either Saturday or Sunday, I take my dog to the local canal and power walk for about an hour or two.

What you listed seems like a lot of food to me. I do only eat 3 times a day, but it isn't large portions. I've just always thought that the more u eat, the more u gain weight. Normally I don't get hungry in the evenings, so it's a little hard for me to eat then. But I do live by the golden rule 'don't eat past eight or before bedtime'.

I've just been getting frustrated lately because a coworker of mine, not to mention several others, is loosing weight. However, she as well as my roommate had 'the surgery' to lose it. She has lost about 35lbs in the past two months, and it just makes me feel down and fatter when I'm with here and people talk about it. I have done several things in the past year, but I have stayed the same size - never gaining or losing. I personally want to lose the weight the 'old fashion' way, but it becomes frustrating when you never see any results. This is why I have joined this forum, for help and guidance. The bottom is, I don't know how to lose the weight. I have always suffered with it since I was a child, and I am ready to be thin- I want to go down to at least a 14 (currently I am and 18/20). I understand that I am not going to be thin overnight, but to start seeing some results would be wonderful. I don't want to sound desperate, but sometimes I feel that way...

MrsJim 05-27-2004 05:40 PM

It might *seem* like a lot of food, but it's what Dr. Phil calls "High-Response foods", mostly low calorie and high in nutritients. As a rule, the more unprocessed 'natural' foods you eat, the better for weight loss. And portion control is ESSENTIAL. A 'serving size' of protein (chicken, fish, lean meat) should only be about 3-4 oz. (the size of a deck of cards). A lot of times, I've found it's PORTIONING that is skewed.

I just entered my sample menu in Fitday (without the veggies, since they add so few calories) and came up with 1,045 calories, which is actually pretty low...

Breakfast: 1 egg + 6 eggwhites, 1/2 cup dry oatmeal - 318 calories, 7g fat, 28g carbs, 33g protein

Snack: 1 medium apple - 81 calories, 0 g fat, 21 g carbs, 0 g protein

Lunch: 3.5 oz boneless skinless chicken breast - 160 cal, 3 g fat, 0 g carbs, 30 g protein
1 medium wheat pita bread - 123 cal, 1g fat, 25g carbs, 5 g protein

Snack - 1 medium apple - 81 calories, 0 g fat, 21 g carbs, 0 g protein

Dinner - 4 oz steamed or poached salmon - 164 cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 28g protein
1 medium sweetpotato - 116 cal, 0 g fat, 27g carbs, 2g protein

You just need to get out of the 'diet mindset' and into the 'lifestyle mindset'. Losing weight ain't easy - it takes hard work and PERSISTENCE - but it's DOABLE and the rewards are RICH. (I'd recommend reading the Dr. Phil 7 Keys to Weight Control book - QUITE good and it's one of the very few that go into the 'head issues' which is the main part of losing weight permanently IMO :) )

Simplyme 05-27-2004 05:59 PM

THANKS....
I will pick that book up this weekend and give it a shot.
Also, I will try out the meal plan that you described and then go from there...
Thank you very much!

MrsJim 05-27-2004 07:23 PM

No problem! :)

If the Dr Phil show is available in your area, you might want to tune in over the summer - I'm hoping they rerun the Weight Loss Challenge shows. They were EXCELLENT. However, if you aren't able to catch the show, no fear - there are very good synopses of the shows on the Dr. Phil website.

He's got a seven-day sample menu plan here: http://images.drphil.com/weightloss/7day/

And you can look up all the WLC shows here ==> http://www.drphil.com/weightloss/wei...Weight%20Shows

girly 03-09-2005 04:53 PM

I read this a long time ago. I wasn't quite ready. Now I am. I came looking for it because I want to pass it on to someone else. What a great post you made that I still remember it!!! Thanks

marbleflys 03-10-2005 09:53 AM

Great Post Mrs. Jim !!! and so very true, I've watched Operah's video too, it was what first helped me make a real decision

......when i was a child (40 million years ago), we never had processed sugary foods,(my mother was a big advocate for preventing tooth decay) we were NOT allowed to watch TV during the day, (the soap operas were sinful to my young impressionable mind)....we walked to and from school unless the weather was bad, we were sent outside to play, build tents, forts, ride bikes, climb trees (to make my mother scream that I'd break my arm).... I guess it was the early version of aerobic exercise....at night we washed dishes by hand and got up off our butts to change the TV channel.

I take immense satisfaction from my daily exercise lately and being able to shut my mouth when I'm full....it's getting easier each day, and I am thrilled with every small positive change in my body....hopefully it will continue!

MrsJim 03-10-2005 12:46 PM

Thanks EVERYONE! :)

I'm REALLY happy that I can help in any way possible.

Believe me...if I can do this...YOU can. I'm not Superwoman by a long long loooooong shot. I really believe that a positive attitude, willingness to work on permanent changes and concentrating on overall HEALTH are absolutely essential towards success!

luvmyboys82 03-13-2005 12:04 PM

Awesome thread! Lasting, healthy weight loss truly does result only from a healthy lifestyle that you enjoy maintaining, not a fad diet or dependency on diet pills or other *iffy* weight loss methods. :dizzy: (I <3 Dr.Phil's advice as well...)

aphil 03-17-2005 03:43 PM

MrsJim-caught the thread title and I just HAD to respond... :lol:

At my husband's company Christmas party a couple months ago-I wore a pretty smashing new dress. Now, we attend this Christmas party every single year-and I see these same people every time. Well, over the past year I have only lost about 7-8 pounds in scale weight (the rest came off quicker the year before) but because of my increased exercise the past year (in duration and intensity) things are "shaping up" a lot, you know?
Well, my hair has grown out some as well over the past year, and one of Jason's co-workers wives came up sort of ticked off-because she thought Jason came to the party with another woman. :lol: Well, that made my day-and then she said:

"What's your secret?"

Now-what I have noticed from people who notice your weight loss, is that they ask this question with keen interest. They want to know what pill you took, what crash diet you went on, or that you have been doing herbal body wraps at the new dayspa-but the minute you start telling them that you have diligently reduced the amount that you eat, eat better quality foods, and work your tail off with the exercise-THEY LOSE INTEREST. :shrug:

MrsJim 03-17-2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aphil
Now-what I have noticed from people who notice your weight loss, is that they ask this question with keen interest. They want to know what pill you took, what crash diet you went on, or that you have been doing herbal body wraps at the new dayspa-but the minute you start telling them that you have diligently reduced the amount that you eat, eat better quality foods, and work your tail off with the exercise-THEY LOSE INTEREST. :shrug:

Yup...I've found that to be true myself. :(

jillybean720 03-24-2005 09:54 AM

Simplyme,

It sounds like maybe you aren't eating enough calories. I have read in magazines, online, books, heard on tv, you name it, that you should NEVER go below 1200 calories a day without the strict supervision of a physician. This puts your body in starvation mode and makes it more difficult for you to lose weight because your body is trying to conserve the weight rather than let it go. For those of us who are very overweight, even 1200 a day may be too low (since our bodies are larger and require more caloreis simply to function even if you are not very active). I was eating 1800-2000 calories a day and not exercising regularly and was still losing weight because it all comes down to calories in vs. calories out, but WITHOUT depriving your body of the essential amount of calories it needs to function. I know, it doesn't really follow common sense (if I eat less, I should weigh less, right?), but it is true and has been proven time and time again, not only by experts, but by real people on these boards who gained or maintained weight at 1200 calories then lost weight when they upped it to, say, 1500-1600 calories a day.

If you think you ARE getting enough caloris, then maybe all you need to do is shake it up a bit. Your body gets used to eating the same things every day and settles into a pattern of satisfaction that does not include weight loss. Try varying your diet a little more or having 3 high-calorie days and 4 low-calorie days a week (to average out to your desired number of calories per day). Often, this will wake your body up and keep it on its toes instead of being contently settled into a pattern, therefore jump starting the weight loss again.

I agree with MrsJim that you may want to eat more frequently, also. Eating every 3-4 hours throughout the day is much better for your metabolism, for it's not so stop-and-go, it's a consistent pattern of working and burning and processing.

I know it's hard to hear "eat more" or "eat more often" when you're dieting because it just doesn't seem to make sense to our minds, but it does to our bodies, and after all, that's what you're after is a better body
:)

PURPLEPANSY 03-24-2005 10:16 PM

well said mrs jim

sreschaib 03-25-2005 08:03 PM

WoW I am very touched and very moved by what you ladies had to say.THANK YOU!!! I have struggled with my weight all my life and no one has ever had such an impact on me like you have. I guess I have always known how important it was to watch what you eat and exercise, but for me growing up my parents idea of watching what you eat was to watch it go in your mouth. Not exactly right, huh? Any way I just wanted to thank you for inspiring me to pay more attention to my body, and what I am doing to it. Stacey :)

rubyblushu 03-29-2005 05:18 PM

Are you kidding? I do have a secret to losing weight-it's called getting off my lazy butt and exercising! I tell you, it's a miracle solution.

I think I'm one of the lucky ones, though. I was raised to believe exactly what you said. Whenever I see a new diet or pill, I think, "I'll believe it when I see it."

PURPLEPANSY 05-21-2005 12:19 PM

:)

slimcharm 05-31-2005 12:18 PM

I read Diary of a Fat Housewife..it was great..but Rosemary either had her mouth wired shut or stomach stapling..I know she had some type of surgery so its not exactly like losing it through diet and exercise

Ineedtolose 05-31-2005 12:24 PM

Did you follow a certain diet then to lose your weight? What kind of exercise did you do?

MrsJim 07-01-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimcharm
I read Diary of a Fat Housewife..it was great..but Rosemary either had her mouth wired shut or stomach stapling..I know she had some type of surgery so its not exactly like losing it through diet and exercise

Actually...Rosemary did *not* have her jaws wired shut or WLS.

There are two editions of the book...the 1992 hardcover and the 1996 paperback. The hardcover version ends with Rosemary at around 209 lb, just having had another baby, went to Disneyland with her family and was still dieting.

The paperback contains an epilogue chapter by Ms. Green, which states she lost the last 40 or so pounds (if memory serves) by working with her doctor and using a medically-supervised liquid diet program (sounded like Optifast although she never mentioned the name of the program). The most recent news I've heard, around 2003, is that she was maintaining her weight and hosting a radio program.

Xuzi 07-01-2005 04:56 PM

Great thread!! What really inspired me to keep working towards achieving a healthier me was a Dr. Phil quote I heard a long time ago when he was still just a weekly guest on Oprah and it's stuck with me all these years until I finally got fed up with being fat. The quote was (paraphrasing here): "Time is going to pass whether you exercise or not. Six months from now you're either going to be thinner than you are today, or the same fat blob you are today," It really struck me that you can't wait for the miracle "loose all your weight in one day without any effort" plan. There are no quick fixes to obesity. Sure it can take you a year to loose 50 pounds, but that year is going to pass no matter what so you might as well make the most of it and DO THE WORK. Otherwise you'll just spend another miserable year being fat.

slimcharm 07-17-2005 10:24 PM

Hmm why did I think she had her jaw wired shut or surgery? It seems to me that something wasnt right about the way she lost her weight. Is she the one that her hubby LOCKED the fridge door? I remember the book as a powerful one..but I guess I dont remember what happened as its been so long since I read it.
I wonder if she has kept the weight off today?


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