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Joanne D 06-05-2001 09:42 AM

Hello
 
Hi Everyone-- Happy Canuk I don't think I will find any stores or brands mentioned here :( ,But I still have a few stores left. This is Florida and since I have lived here all my life I am aware that only the same markets are available. I would not want to order a case of a product. I think that would be the case by ordering it on the web. :?: I do find that we can find so many really good suggestions here though.
I lurk around a lot of the sites. I get so much good advice that people don't or maybe do realize they are giving . This is like the Ann Landers in the morning paper ,for me. I read her faithfully. Sometimes She and others have a lot to offer. :p
I'll be back another time ,when I have something productive to say. I hope it will not take me so long to find you . I had a devil of a time this time as I forgot where I was last.:o Joanne

Ally0306 06-05-2001 08:06 PM

Hi Everybody. I was just thinking that maybe there is a weight that you are meant to be and no matter how much you try your body will try to maintain it. I haven't been on the scale, and I am trying to not think of myself as Dieting, but my Focus on Fiber has resulted in at least an inch or two off my waist, but I suspect this is it. Unless I start to starve.

I stayed at 130 pounds for quite a while before pregnancy. Then ended at 150 for a while and spent years starving trying to get back to 130. Then I hit Fibro and my 40s and there goes another 20 pounds. Now I am fighting to get back to 150. I think my body likes 170??
Know what I mean?

Joanne D 06-05-2001 08:16 PM

Whole Wheat Pasta
 
Hi Everybody--SMessage SUCCESS I found spaghetti and noodles . :dizzy: . But not the Linguine yet. I feel like I finally accomplished something. I am a person that will not giveup on something until it is done right.:D . I call it persistance,my husband says it is a pain in the neck. Too Bad. I hope it is good , because I am going to make him eat it too. :devil:
We had some good rain today here in central Florida. We sure need all we can get. By you good ladies...Joanne:lol:

Joanne D 06-06-2001 09:28 AM

Weight
 
Ally- I know just what you mean. I weighed over 200lbs. for years. I finally got into WW for the 12+ time and lost 57 lbs. Now I am 152-154 back and forth for 3 yrs and can't seem to get it back down. :( Somebody told me that was because I was at the wt. my body liked. I too wonder if I should be satisfied and stop fighting myself all the time?? I wonder what some of the other ladies think?Do we ask too much of ourselves?It gets very frustrating. Sometimes ,I think that I dwell too much on food and how I should be or not be eating. I seem to be always planning the next meal!!:^: Then I think if I am not ever watchful I will be right back where I started at. :?:
Now I have started my day off as ever worring about my weight. I should look outside and see how nice it is. The sun is shining. I should be Thankful. Joanne:cool:

tootie 06-06-2001 11:36 AM

not born that weight!!keep fighting!!!
 
Hi ladies. Today is a hurt day with one swollen index finger and bad pain in back of the left leg.This is what the new rehmui said she wanted to see to establish if it is uric acid {gout} in the joints.
But too busy helping the new mom to go.
Everybody is helping, even the neighbors watching the kids while I bought the new baby and mom to the doctor.

About the idea that "our bodies like the weight we finaly ended up with"
When I was only 150 # I had been going to a shrink, also because of husband problems. She told me to accept myself and like myself no matter what I weighed.
Well, that was not good advice! and accepting what you weigh now is not good advice!! keep fighting it even if it is only a few pounds. Because had I kept fighting, I would not be almost twice that now.
The weight loss is very slow on sugar busters, but I keep on doing it because, I need to eat and keeping on the program even if I taste something not quite legal, I accept the falling off the wagon and get back on and try again.
It is not so slow for other younger people! I see how wondeful they are doing and all with eating real food.I fall back into the "I;m eating too much," mode and restrick my intake and find, I don't lose any more weight than if I have more protein.
But Alley fight you must, other wise it creaps up wards.
You have to find a way of eating {woe so they like to put it}so that no matter what kind of mood your in, you still keep eating what is allowed.
If you are concentrating on fiber, that's good because all the foods that are good for you have fiber. Beans without sugar, and whole wheat pasta with sugarless tomato sauce is wonderful to eat and not feel deprived all the time. So even though my weight is changing ever so slowly, I still eat the right foods excepting for more protein. Just get tired of eating meat,chicken and fish.
Evey so often I reread the book and start all over again and I find I haven't fallen that far from the program.
So I'm here ladies just been so busy and tired when I come home, all I want to do is flop on the couch and watch something stupid on the tube.
The answer is to find a way to eat that will become normal.Restrict sugar all the time; eat high fiber all the time;eat fresh fruit all the time;drink water all the time, break the soda habit;drink tea; drink ice tea;keep fighting to find a way to eat right! Even weight watches would be find, if you didn't eat all your points on junk food.
Keep fighting. It doesn't feel good to be fat.

.

Ally0306 06-06-2001 05:24 PM

Joanne..................... I spend way too much time thinking about food too. And when I was jumping on the scale everyday, that was my guage as to what my mood would be for the day. And I was constantly disappointed so I got off the scale and am trying to find a healthy eating lifestyle rather than diet.
And Tootie....I hear ya. I am afraid that soon my body will "like" 200 or more pounds and then I won't be able to get that off.
I just feel frustrated though because I am eating healthier than I ever have.
Cause I am obsessive about it, every day I methodically plan out fiber and won't eat a meal without a great percentage of fiber. I bring raw veggies and fruit to work. People laugh at my nuts and twigs and tree bark. I had been eating sunflower seeds with the shell on....talk about fiber. Might as well eat tree trunks. Its a wonder I didn't get splinters on the way out.
And I will say that if I stick to this...I feel a lot better. And, yeah. I lost a little roll of fat around my waist.
But I think if I eat like this I am probably going to stay at about 160.
And If I look at myself compared to my peers, (45 yrs old with kids) I am probably about average.
I just cleaned out all my 10s and 12s from my closet and I didn't have one friend I could give them too. We have all gotten chunky.
But I still WANT to weigh less.
I want to wear jeans again.

Watch out girls. One of my sons got his driver's license today.

Happy Canuk 06-06-2001 05:35 PM

Hello fibropals
 
Tootie - you actually posted more than a dozen words. So good to hear from you. Sorry that you are so tired - that is a big load to heap on yourself, but I am sure you will do it cheerfully:dizzy: I am not sure about all the young people and them NEEDING to have their children see everything that happens to them. Sometimes kids are better off just being kids and that means without worries. When they see things, like childbirth, you have to wonder what goes through their little heads. The same, as when my daughter was in the hospital, hooked up to IV's etc. Don't they thing, for a moment, what effect this might have on the child. All kids are different, but gee! When I was young, you weren't allowed in the hospital until you were 12 to visit anyone; then when my daughter was born, everyone had to wear a cap and gown to come visit; with my son, some of the same, now anyone and their dog is allowed. The babies go home the day after birth, so now I have to wonder, what was the big deal about all this a way back when! Make time and go to the Dr., Phyllis. They may just be able to help you if they find out for sure what it is.

Ally - I don't think that your body thinks it needs to be a certain weight; however, as we age, we can never look the same as we did in our 20'2 even if we weigh exactly the same. I think your body has a set point, but ever notice how that changes each time you go on a diet - and I don't mean it gets lower. If you started out at 170, lose 30 pounds, and start gaining weight again, you will probably end up being 175 lbs. Why can't it reset itself to the lower point! If they knew that, I guess the diet industry would die. We all have to just keep plugging away, but as long as you are eating sensibly and eating enough fruit and vegetable (or is getetables hmmm, must ask Meme) you should be ok. The important thing is to make sure the body is nourished.

Meme - still hanging? It has to do with homones. The hypothalamus is the master gland; It sends hormones to the pituitary gland, which inturn controls the thyroid gland, the adrenal glands and the ovaries in females. The hypothalamus also monitors the levels of the hormones that all these glands make and tells the glands whether to make more or less. The Dr. says, all the glands need to be checked out, including the pineal gland that makes melatonin.

As just noted, the pineal, hypothalamus and pituitary glands, located deep within the brain, work together to direct th balance the body's energy (the metabolic system) and defense(the immune system) as well as the part of the nervous system that controls blood flow to the skin, muscles and organs (the autonomic-sympathetic-parasympathetic nervous systems) Current evience suggests that a major portion of the symptoms of CFIDS and FM are manifestations of poorly functioning hypothalamus.

It goes on in great detail about what role each gland plays, and how it affects the body, and what it does it malfunctioning. Each one needs to be checked out and treated as a whole treatment, not bits and pieces. Once this is done, many people, including this Dr., have gotten rid of the pain and symptoms; others have just gotten rid of a lot of the pain and began to function.

In the back of the book, is a section written for Dr., and he asks that you take this book to them so that they can read what he is talking about - treatment wise. Try get it from the library. It has good info. and I think I will take this book into the Dr., and ask him to read it in his spare time(may take a year or two haha). Since the man who wrote it is a medical dr., the Dr. shouldn't think one is being to pushy, right?

Ally, what did you think of this book?

Joanna - glad you found the pasta. Perserverence is a wonderful thing. It really doesn't taste any different. I have been using it for 3 or 4 years, and my husband doesn't know the difference. Just a bit firmer when cooked, I think. Happy cooking!

Mima - Thanks for passing the inform on re: wholewheat pasta. You and Joanna don't seem to have much weight to lose, and that is great. Want to share your secrets with the rest of us? Do you not get the carb cravings when that horrible exhaustion sets in? Candice says, she just rests, but I can't do that. My body just goes nuts and wants sugar. It doesn't happen all the time, but it is often enough to sabatogue a good diet!

When is Candice due back?

Joanne D 06-06-2001 07:35 PM

Hi
 
Happy Canuk- I had some of the Whole Wheat mac. tonight. I misjudged my amount and cooked too much. One cup dry was too much cooked. :o If I could manage to control my cravings I might be able to lose more wt. I made a pig of myself this past week end. And yesterday I pigged out on crunchy peanut butter and jam. Now what kind of secret is that??:mad: I need to get off a least 10-15 more lbs!!!I did real well for awhile. So now I guess It is back to my journal. Got to get my rear in gear. I told my husband I was not buying anymore junk. He doesn't need either. Bye for now.. :) Joanne;)

Mima 06-07-2001 07:12 AM

Secrets?
 
First I bwant to tell Tootie that my aunt-who has food allergies like me-gets something called pseudo-gout-parts of her body swell like gout. She figured out it was from Red Dye 40 which,when you read labels, is in so many things. Luckily I don;t have that allergy because it's in my favorite-red wine.
I guess the secrets to my weight management are partly necessity. I am allergic to wheat and milk and eating them sets off fibro. I also have a problem with cholesterol and I can't take the med. So I watch my fat,sugar, and I exercise.
I am on my fourth day of WW.I am doing well-that stubborn pound came off so I have now lost the 4th pound I gained on the cruise I went on 3 weeks ago. Today will be a test-I am going to a retirement party.
What is the name of that book again?I love it when they say fibro can go away. AS for tired-sometimes drinking water helps but I take a nap every afternoon-while watching soaps-it helps. People laugh at me but they don't have fibro. Going for my monthly massage today!!Talk soon:devil: :devil: :devil:

Mima 06-07-2001 07:14 AM

mistake
 
I tried to put the devils after the red wine!!!!I'l learn

Joanne D 06-07-2001 10:01 AM

Good Morning
 
Good Morning -
Happu Canuk -I just love your little images you add. I'll have to get my daughter to show me how to do that ,when she comes down.
Mima good for you - getting those extra lbs off is a job well done. I have to do the same.
I am starting a new day. I hope with a better attitude. I think that is everything with me . That and not too much exercise of the elbow. :o
Happy Day... Joanne:)

Happy Canuk 06-07-2001 12:10 PM

Hi
 
EXERCISE OF THE ELBOW, like that also, exercise of the jaw. Parts that don't usually hurt, so I have no problem with them. I wish my back would stop hurting so that I could go our and walk. I am really afraid to go very far, for fear of not being able to get back:?:

Mima - good for you. That is so great. I guess that is called weight management then. Up just a few pounds and then get rid of them. Where you tested for allergies? How did you determine what they were? Sometimes I think I have food intolerances to a number of things as well.

Tootie -:^:

Meme -:dizzy: Are you feeling better or what? I sure hope so. come write more that 3 words and let us know what is up with you. When is Candice due back?

Ally - Hey, they were showing shots of people walking down the street on the news the other night, telling us Canadians and Americans are way to fat - I looked pretty good:lol: But I don't WANT to be one of them anymore. I would be happy if I could drop 30 pounds. Even 20 would make me happy. My daughter is on weightwatchers for almost a year, and she has lost over 50 pounds. She has also taken up running during that year, going to the Running Room program. I think she has done so well and I can't seem to stick to anything.

Anyway Ally, eating healthy is the main thing. I love nuts, just irritate my stomach and seem to bring on IBS. Eat them anyway!

Well everybody, hope you have a great day.

Joanne D 06-07-2001 08:16 PM

Hey
 
Hey All --- Happy Canuk-- I sure hope you feel better soon:) ..Your image reminds me of my daughters dogs and cats. They are pit bulls ,full grown. Very often you will find one of them sleeping in the garage with one of the cats snuggled up against it. These dogs would not let a stranger on the place but are gentle with a cat!
Do you have a treadmil ? I have one that I use now and then. I go out to walk every day. I started with a half mile and thought I was doing something big. Now I walk 3 and half or mor miles a day. I rarely miss more than a couple days a month.. Bye for now. Hope everyone has a good night...Joanne:wave:

Ally0306 06-07-2001 09:56 PM

Happy.....I read that book almost two years ago now and I did bring it to my Doc and what is funny about Docs is that they "appear" interested and do a lot of "hmmmmmms", but in the end they hand the book back unread. I can't remember all the parts of that book, but I do believe finding your boundary was in there too. That is a phrase my Doc used a lot....he would always advise me to stay within my boundaries and I would try and tell him that that was pretty tough seeing as how I have.....A Life.
And speaking of that......trouble on the home front. The beloved is in the dog house and I am not sure I will ever be able to forgive my kids for the things they said to me tonight. My Ex has a collection of junk cars occupying his yard which I'm sure pleases his neighbors, but tonight he followed my son home with one and they tried to convince me to let him have a car.
I said that the Driver's license was Step One.'
A "real" job and pay check is Step Two.
And a passing report card is Step Three......... and I am not skipping steps.
Both my kids went bonkers...they thought I would not be able to say no. They threatened to move out and I wouldn't let them play that card arbitrarily and I opted for them to go. Well, they ended up staying but after their father left they told me that they only stay here because I have a better house and more money and that they will drive the cars to their hearts content on the weekend and I will not have jurisdiction.
They talked about ME and things about me personally that they hate and right now they are going to bed peaceably after pacing outside the room I am in pleading with me to forget the things they said.....
I know this is teenage stuff and I know we have finally hit that one thing (car) that is ultra important, but I can't tell you how hurt I am.
I feel like I am living with people I don't even know.

Happy Canuk 06-07-2001 11:46 PM

Oh boy Ally, those teen years can be he**. Don't take it to heart; I know that some of the things they say cut like a knife, but remember that they just wanted something and you told them know. As much as they are growing up, parts of them are still the little boys you always knew - It is just a bigger temper tantrum. Stick to your guns. I agree that they should buy their own cars. Easy come-easy go. DON'T SIT AND CRY!, because I know that is what you are doing. Just let it out, forgive them and get on with your life. They still love their mommy!

MEME - I AM SCREAMING AT YOU. WHERE THE HECK ARE YOU:s: I THOUGHT CANDICE WAS THE ONE GOING AWAY, NOT YOU. YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOLIDAY FROM US. COME BACK HERE!!!!:lol:

Joanna - No I don't have a treadmill. I was walking lots during the winter - about 3-4 miles every other day. I have a lot of trouble with my knees and legs when that fm flares up, and then I am lucky to walk a block. Can't manage the stairs then either. Just bending my knee kills me, but they aren't swollen, just feel that way.

Phyllis - Hope you are catching up on some rest, and that you got back to the Dr., or at least an appointment to do so - SOON:dizzy:


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