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  • Hi Lady Bug and welcome to the board.

    ANNE...YUCK...It's finally beginning to warm up and look "springy" here and then you go and post all that yucky ole snow! Reminds me of my days in Michigan. I remember one snow we had up there that we had to shovel ourselves out of the house. My brother pushed the storm open just enough to get out and finally got to the garage...had a terrible time getting the garage door open about 2 ft....crawled in and got the snow shovel then it took him 3 hrs. to shovel his car out. He was determined to go to work for a 1/2 day. Well...he came back about 2 hrs. later...had only gone around the block! Said he helped 4 other people push their cars back up in their driveways! It is supposed to be rainy here next week but it's going to be in the 70s...I can handle that!

    I went back to the Neurologist yesterday. Yet ANOTHER new medicine. Ever heard of Topamax? It's a seizure med. used to treat migraines. He said with most of his fibro patients who also had migraines it stoped their migraines almost completely! The side effects are horrendous but from everything I can read, they all but disappear after about 8 weeks (if I can take them that long). I read about a lot of studies they did and they said many of the people they tried it on stopped taking it because they couldn't take the side effects. But they said the ones who didn't didn't stop said the side effects were almost all gone at the end of the 8 weeks. If I knew FOR SURE the migrianes would be gone in 8 weeks, too...it would be worth it!!! Here are a few of the side effects: burning, tingling sensation to skin, dizziness, loss of muscle control, blurred vision, slurred speech, excessive sleepiness, can't think, nervousness, fatigue, anxiety, difficulty with concentration or attention, depression, confusion and...almost all patients have abnormal weight loss of about 3 pounds a week. I have already experienced the dizziness, burning and tingling skin, sleepiness and anxiety and I've only been on it 1 day! My Dr. said he went on it for a couple of weeks last year just to lose a few pounds. Said he dropped 8 pounds in 2 weeks! NOW THAT SIDE EFFECT I CAN LIVE WITH!!!!!!!

    I am now on 4 medicines that one of the common side effects is making you sleepy. Looks like I'd get more sleep than what I do, doesn't it!

    Speaking of sleep...I'm sleepy now...and it's only 11:30...so I'm going to bed! 'nite 'nite. I'll let you know how I do on the weight loss! My luck, it will be the only side effect I don't have!!!
  • Hi guys!!!It's spring in New England also-going to be 50 today but we still have a lot of snow left. It sure is great to walk now!!!I am hurting from a yoga video. My muscles are so tight I want to loosen up but.......Went out for Chinese last night and went to see About Schmidt-it was good but not what we expected-thought provoking!!If I had one of my kids move back in at this stage , I would not have the patience. I guess ground rules help. A few years back, I had my stepson and his daughter with me. Wow!!!Going to have one birthday dinner next week-all of our kids are between March 15-he's in FL-and April 25-all 4 of them!!!Then I am inviting their uncle so we can exchange our Christmas gifts because we had a blizzard at Christmas!!!Have a great day everyone!!!!Mima
  • Mima...That movie drove me nuts for days. Put me in a rotten mood. I am not sure Kathy Bates deserves an Oscar for that role...I have seen her in better parts. But she did show her fat nude body, so she deserves something for that...
    Meme...tell me how Topomax works. I have not had a migraine (knock on wood) in a few weeks. They come in waves for me. When I get one, I will have them for weeks.
    Happy..... went hiking today and there is so much melting snow, it was like a river on either side of the trail.
    Joanne....I won't even give you a report on my cream colored carpeting in this muddy weather...
    Anagram, Lady Bug, Candice and all....howdy.
  • Meme Hi again I took Topamax 25 mg to start off but quit cause of allot of those side effects I might get back on them if you lose 2 #'s a week Oh yeah..LOL let me know if side effects happen and leave and if yo lose weight...thanks its nice here in ohio 70°
    I notice Ifeel better Fibro wise on nice days this nasty winter cold was worst than most so Fibro Flares were plenty...not sure about rainy seasons or heat as I am newly diagnosed and in self discovery period of symptoms with this DD But I am determined to lose weight I am on low carb WW program..started period after 4 months w/o as i am also peri menopause alsoi (49 and falling apart LOL) but no hot flashes Anyhoots I lost 8.5 lbs in 2 weeks in spite of meds and PMS Yahoo....we can do it....When I turn 50 in 2/04 I am celebrating retiring from 30 yrs at GM car assembly plant and turning the Big 50 by going on a 8 day Florida vacation with 3 day cruise to Bahama's so I want to be at least 60 lbs lighter . And I will be or else....lol Love to all Ladybugplus
  • Good morning-wish you well with your goal Ladybug-it's going to be gorgeous out today-everything is melting!!!I need motivation to finish 2 projects-stenciling the hall and grouting the bathroom floor.I am in the mood to do other things but.........That movie did not depress me Ally but Kathy Bates wasn't in it long enough to get an award even though she was good. Brda saw her naked in another movie so I guess she doesn't have a problem with disrobing.Pray for peace. Mima
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    Hello Everybody-- Let's all say a extra prayer tonight for our boys in the military.. My G/son is on the Truman. I know my daughter is thinking of nothing else but him tonight. I have been down in the dumps and feeling so tired today . Too much news today. My hubby starts yelling at the T V every now and then. Dashell is getting a piece of his mind right now..
    I am going to bed as soon as the President speaks tonight.
    Bye- Joanne
  • My son is moved in but not unpacked yet. This is his first night here and he says he wants leftovers for breakfast..well that is fine but not when I plan to use all of them for another meal! This is gonna take some getting used to. I do not like my food messed with!

    My other son has not found another job yet so we are footing his bill too! I told DH if he keeps handing out the money they will never be on there own! (especially money we do not have any extra of!)

    I think maybe I ate too little all week cause I am super weak..still not losing either but not gaining.

    Hurting so bad today and rain all week! At least the snow is gone for now!
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    Candice - Hope things get to be 'normal' in your household soon. My son always liked to eat leftovers for breakfast as well. It worked out ok, because I didn't usually have enough leftovers for 3 of us. That works well for just the two of us. I hope you are not trying to eat less so you can continue to lose. I thought you were already at your goal? Don't get obsessed.

    Ladybug - I forgot to welcome you to our little corner of the world. Congrats on that weightloss. It will be nice for you to retire - it helps if you DON'T have to push yourself to go to work, especially if you have fatigue. I couldn't do that now that is for sure.

    Joanne - yelling at the TV? Well, whatever helps. The news is so very depressing right now. The world is in a turmoil and it seems that we have no way out. I think we have backed ourselves into a corner and I sure don't like that. I can sure understand how your family is feeling right now.

    Meme - How are ya doin? I hope that your new meds are working and that you aren't experiencing to many side effects.

    Mima , Ally and Anagram - Hi. Hope you are all well.

    Well it was terrible out on Sunday, raining and snowing and blowing! Monday, it was 48 above and today, it will only be in the 30's. It is like huge wading pools everywhere you go! Well, spring is just a few days away now. Let's all pray that with spring, come new beginings as well.
  • Need for 8 glasses of water a myth: nutrition experts
    Last Updated Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:59:11
    VANCOUVER - We may not need to drink eight glasses of water a day after all, Canadian and American experts say.

    Since the end of the Second World War, many people assumed they should drink at least eight glasses or two litres of water per day to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Countless weight loss and fitness magazines have reinforced the idea.



    Scientists are rethinking whether we need eight glasses of water a day

    University of British Columbia nutrition Prof. Susan Barr is part of a joint Canadian and American team of doctors and nutritionists who are looking at how much water people actually need.
    Barr said they couldn't find any scientific evidence to support the eight to 10 glass recommendation.

    The confusion may have arisen because a typical adult's energy requirements call for two to three litres of fluid – but it doesn't all have to be in the form of glasses of water. All foods and non-alcoholic drinks count toward the goal.

    For example, Barr said:

    broccoli is about 90 per cent water
    bread is about 35 per cent water
    meat, fish and poultry contain 50 to 60 per cent water
    As for drinking water to lose weight, Barr said, "If you drink a lot of water, right at the moment you will feel full. But half an hour later, your stomach will be empty and you'll be hungry."
    So far, the researchers say it seems most North Americans are getting the necessary amount of water from their diet.

    There have been cases of people drinking too much water. Confusion, headache and cramps are symptoms of drinking too much water. A few deaths have been linked to excessive water intake while taking the party drug, ecstasy.

    On the other hand, people who are exercising and sweating more than normal need to replenish the vital liquid to avoid dehydration.

    Recommendations on exactly how many glasses people should try to drink are expected in the fall.



    Written by CBC News Online staff
  • Interesting on the water, Happy. I know dh must count pudding, jello, ice cream, fruit, etc. toward the limited amount of water he's allowed each day.

    Had a great day Sunday at my daughter's. As older gd says "our WHOLE family" was there. That's eight of us which seems so small to me to be a whole family but she's thrilled to pieces when we're all together (well, so is Mimi but I let her express it). We ate lunch on the deck because it was so warm (70 degrees). It was a shock to my winter bogged mind. It was about 66 here yesterday. Won't stay that warm but it was sure a jump start to spring thinking.

    Joanne, I share your concerns but of course for you and your family it's much more difficult. I know my sister was really a wreck when her 18 year old was in the Gulf War. We all were concerned but he was her baby.

    Hope at least the headaches are gone, Meme, and that the side effects are only the mild ones.

    How are the projects coming, Mima. Wish I only had two - I'm so backed up (story of my life).

    I'm not looking too closely at my cream colored carpet right now either, Ally. That's the trouble with bright sunny days - I see too much.

    Oh, Lordy, Candice - I'm with you. I've gotten so used to just the two of us that it takes me a week to adjust when they leave after just a visit.

    Welcome Ladybug - Hope you bring us all good luck!

    Results of thyroid test didn't change my dosage any. I think I'd feel much better if I could just get it back on track. Stomach bug the other week seems to have changed something.

    Went to pool yesterday, have been getting in some nice outdoor walks, drinking water (moderately, Anne), etc. Someone should remind me "It's the Food, Stupid". DH is down to 162 lbs and we've been trying to get enough calories into him so he stops losing and it's tough to remember I'm on the other side of that fence.

    Off I go to face the world - Good one, all.
  • Hi guys-I don't just have 2 projects, I have 2 projects that I started and didn't finish and I don't want to start anymore til they are done-got the stenciling two thirds done and noticed that one wa;; didn't get a second coat of paint-guess we'll have to live with it. And am I sore today!!!I got really bummed out yesterday brcause one of my friends died-only 60 and too close to my age. She had lung cancer and never smoked and ended up with a stroke.I worked with her for many years and the group still gets together. Funeral tomorrow.But today I am waliking with my aunt and we are going to lunch. Bye for now-love this weather!Mima
  • Mima...I visited my favorite uncle in the hospital last week who has small cell lung cancer. He quit smoking 40 years ago and has always been healthy. Was shoveling his neighbor's drive just a month ago, now is on morphine. Amazing.
    Do you all have a Chili's near you??? I had their Broccoli and Cheese soup today. Have never had better soup.
  • Hi-went for a great walk with Auntie-we had so much fun.Today I am going to the funeral-am anxious about that-it will be sad-she was well loved-also anxious about war-going to a missionary pot luck supper tonight-I'm going to make a pie with sugar free pudding and light cherries!Be good everyone! Mima
  • Hey There
    Memi- I usually have a couple projects going at the same time.. If I get bored or tired with one I switch and do something else.
    It is so hot here now. We were in the 80's today. I can see a long hot summer coming.
    Anagram - Thank You for your thoughts . We will be watching the news very carefully for the next few days. I just hope that crazy guy doesn't start using some of his hidden bad stuff. It is expected.
    Hello Happy, Meme, Candice,Ally... I hope your winter is coming to an end..
    Bye for now..Joanne
  • I am thinking of you Joanne-hope he stays safe-went to the funeral of my friend-what a tribut to her-saw a lot if my friends too.And then went to lunch but I was emotionally drained-then when Brad told me the war started-I tossed and turned all night. Hope it's over quick and I will go on record to say that I don't think we should have attacked. Going to the dentist today for my teeth cleaning-and it's going to be warm today-saw my tulips coming up. Going to get the leaves out. Bye for now-Mima