carol: glad you decided to make the cake anyhow, but maybe have DH take it to her.
It must be hard to stay out of things, and I can guess it all started with her asking for money for "a very good reason".
And that DH doesn't say no, but it affects you too and you felt the need to step up. Maybe you could frame that he is the issue, as much as her. Its very hard when you do not have your own kid issues too. I'm sorry things had to go that way.
In my own marriage, DH not stepping up for me, or for US even has been an issue from time to time over the years.
You are not alone, and hope things will settle out ok.
hugs

Got a really busy day today so will have to make this kind of a quick check in.

I've really been thinking about the "Facelift Friday" thing on the FB Dr. Fung group. I don't really want to do a strict low carb especially keto, but I have decided to do more low carb than not. I really like the way the inches come off when you eat less carbs. Almost make a CAD like woe look good.

mad I found my measuring tape and measured my waist and plan to use that more. It seems like it really doesn't matter whether you eat low carb or low calorie/lowfat, I've noticed the weight seems to come off slow any what, however, I do remember when my size of clothes were smaller than what I thought it would be when compared to my waist when I did Atkins. I wish I could do Atkins again, but just don't think I want to do carbs that low any more. I did join a FB low carb recipe group hoping I might be able to get some new ideas on recipes.

Pipsicle, Carol Sue and others: :wave:

DH is going to be ready to walk out the door in a few minutes so I better close off. Catch y'all later.

Have a great day.

Mad, ours is not a typical step-parent relationship. She lived with us. Her mother was out of the picture so I raised her from a young age.

This started in 1992 when she got married. She and her fiance spent the money they had saved for the wedding and also the money his father had given them toward the wedding. We didn't find out until it was time to pay, so DH and I had to cover it or cancel the wedding. It was not a small sum. She told me that the parents are supposed to pay for the wedding. I did some screaming then, too. LOL It has continued over the years. A few times it was due to unemployment and couldn't be helped, but most times it was irresponsibility. DH is OK with this. He understands what she does. Yesterday her husband called and asked DH what happened because she was crying and couldn't/wouldn't tell him. After DH told him what happened he said "I don't know why she did that. We have money." I won't go into details, but I know her, and I know why she did it. She never listened when I talked calmly to her. I had to scream to get myself heard. She might be mad at me, but she will remember this the next time. The day will come when we will be gone and she will have no one to come to for money. She has to learn to handle it responsibly.

Trish, measuring my waist is not helpful. Because I had those two abdominal surgeries my abdomen is way distended. I look 7 months pregnant. When I lost that 10-12 lbs recently I can see it in my face and around my neck and shoulders, but my waist still protrudes. I don't think that will ever change.

Carol Sue So sorry about the disagreement with your step-daughter. I know my step-daughter that I raised would live closer to me but we get along so much better now than we did when we lived together. I always thought I had become her enabler. I think DH and I both did that with his daughter too. Of course, we don't have the money we once had when we first married and after we sold our house in FL.

Mad When do you leave on your trip? I think you will do very well with your eating. I like the way Dr. Fung says to worry about fasting when on traveling and just get right back to it when you get home. In fact, I think the way Dr. Fung teaches us to do this makes it so easy without a lot of pressure or guilt.

I noticed in the TOC book that one of the samples of fasting was to fast every other day. I would like to work up to doing that someday. I also read where someone on the group had fasted 60 hrs.

I ended up doing a 2MAD today with 6 hrs between the 2 meals because it was after 5 pm before we got home and was able to eat. We stopped and got burgers at Burger King. I got a double burger with onion only so I was able to come home and put my own lettuce, tomato and extra onion with mustard and Light mayo on it. That way I was able to shave off some of the calories with the light mayo and the 2% cheese I put on it.

DH likes eating earlier everyday, but if I could eat later everyday, I could get by with eating only 2 meals. I've thought of things I would like to eat tonight, but I wasn't tempted because I knew it was just a desire not a hunger. Drinking water is really helping to keep me from being hungry. I drink my 2 cups of coffee in the morning and after lunch I have a glass of 2% milk and finish it up with a special cup of TX Pecan coffee. The only think I drink other than that is water.

I'm going to try to go to bed early tonight.

Good night friends.

Trish, we became enablers with my step-daughter but that was because I wanted to let DH make the decision of what to do. I didn't want to appear to be the wicked step mother. But she learned how to manipulate her Dad. For me, it wasn't that I didn't want to help her, but wanted her to learn how to stand on her own two feet and be responsible. For her, she seemed to feel that she could squander her money any way she wanted and it didn't matter because she could always go to Dad and get money. Plus, she only comes around for Holiday dinners or when she wants something. She never even calls her Dad just to see how he's doing. When he was in the hospital, she didn't even go to see him. She called him and said "Do I have to come?" Of course, he told her no. When I see her number come up on the caller ID I start thinking "How much does she want" because it's never anything good. Her husband used to drive a cement truck, and when the weather was rainy or snowy he didn't work, so we had to help them out a lot through that. But now he has a really good job and makes a lot more money. Now that we are retired, we don't have the money we had when we were working. I have money in an IRA but that is for us for emergencies. Since we are older, medical emergencies can arise. It's not a lot of money but we don't touch it. She doesn't know we have that money or she'd be after it. Just because we have extra money doesn't mean we should give it to her.

When my MIL died, my BIL sold the old house. He only got $4,000 for that house. It was over 100 years old and in a bad neighborhood. When she found out he got that money, it sounded like a lot to her. She went to him and asked him to "loan" her money to pay a car payment, but "don't tell my Dad." So the house money was in the bank. He gave her his credit card and say she could make the payment on his credit card. She took the card home and made the car payment, but then she wrote down the number of the card and the next month she used it to pay her electric bill and also the next month's car payment. When he saw that on the bill he called the credit card company and they told him that he would have to file charges against the person who did it or pay the bill, so he didn't want her to go to jail, so he paid it. But then he told DH what she did. DH told him he never should have let her have that card. Plus she never paid him back all that money. DH asked her why she did it and she said he told her she could. What he said to her was "Anytime you need money you can use my card." He meant come and tell me, but she took it to mean she could just use that card number any time she wanted. She swears he told her she could do it, but he is poor. No one in their right mind would give someone their credit card number and tell them to use it whenever they wanted.

Also, she used to work at the fireman's club, and her other uncle was on the board of directors. She took money out of the deposit and used it for a car payment. They found out the money was missing and asked her about it but she said she intended to pay it back. Her uncle covered for her and told her she could pay it back in payments and they wouldn't press charges, but she ended up quitting the job and never paying it back. Her uncle just let it go. He told us all this after the fact, but when DH asked her about it, she denied it. We believe her uncle. He has no reason to lie, and it sounds like something she would do.

So, this is not just me being mean and not helping her. She knows how to manipulate, and you have to be on your toes.

Hi everyone:
Made it through the fast yesterday, feasting starts with lunchtime. I am going out to sing tonight, and will plan to eat at the restaurant there. Its a crepe place, and they have a gluten free crepe, and will do whatever filling I like. yum. That with a nice salad will be great.
I leave Friday night Trish. You are right, I do not plan to be too careful on the trip. I will have to be careful about gluten and citrus like always, and if I stick with some form of 2MAD I should be fine. I always walk a lot while travelling. If you remember, in spite of drinking some wine and eating some desserts while I was in Portugal, I lost a couple of pounds to me great surprise. I will settle for not gaining more than a pound or two, but we shall see. I will be fasting on the travel days each way. I have found it works better than trying to get special food, and airline food is crummy anyhow. I have terrible motion sickness, so being empty is actual easier and the Gravol works better.
Slept fairly well last night, I was awake for a couple of hours in the middle of the night, but that is common when fasting. I slept a little late this morning. But the CPAP is so much better with that adjustment, I am not waking up because of discomfort, and I sleep longer before the first time up to use the washroom. More dreams too.
Carol: I am glad you figured out how to adjust yours. I wish I had posted in a few places about that sooner. I have been held hostage by the sleep lab and their poor business practices. So I am excited to take back control of my sleep. This was the final piece of the insomnia puzzle. I also was not upset or bothered by the slight insomnia last night. It used to get me worried, fearing I would be too tired to get through the day, and that kept me from sleeping well the next night, and into bigger problems. I seem to be over that. Knowing that it happens with fasting will help me time my fasts when working so that I won't fast nights before a busy day etc.
I am sorry about the situation with your step-daughter. Is she the only one? or did she also have older siblings?
My husband's parents had 5 boys, and 2 had a lot of financial help from my in-laws. I get that, some of your kids need more help than others. My younger daughter, for instance, has had more help as an adult and with schooling than the older one got. She does need it, and we can help.
But what my FIL did was list some of the money he gave those two as loans, to be deducted from their final inheritance.
He died first though, and MIL did not agree, and willed even division. My other BIL were pretty steamed and felt it was unfair. But personally, I had no problem. But oddly the widow of one always felt her family did not get a fair share. I stay in touch with her and the other "needy" brother. That brother has real mental health issues, and is close to my younger daughter. His kids are really lovely, and years ago I wanted him in our lives to ensure we could stay close to those kids. We are the only family members they stay in touch with now.
Families are difficult at the best of times. Just like Trish and issues with her younger sister.
I know my younger daughter has difficulty with money, and hope that her treatment will assist her to make that better. Once they are adults, they don't "have to" listen to us as parents.
All this has nothing to do with weight loss support I guess, but our families affect our mood for sure, and that affects our eating. I hope I am getting past stress eating. I am not past the urge to binge on Hallowe'en candy when I smell it at the grocery store. These are difficult days to go shopping.
Ahh well, DH, wants to chat, ttfn

Looks like everybody has someone in their family who needs more help than others and I have no problem helping someone when they need it, however, I think you have to be sure you are helping and not enabling them. Previous DH and I have had people help us when we needed it and we in turn helped others when we had it to help people in need. I really think in some cases it needs to be done more in love because you have it and can.

I remember one time when my baby sister and her hubby were having problems financially and so was my son I had given up for adoption who came around back then. DH#2 and I were making good money and were able to give both a certain amount of money each month to get them through until they got back on their feet. It was never a loan, but just the fact that we could help them like someone had done for us. When we lived in the country a farmer loaned us a big tank that DH pulled behind his truck and put water in it so we could have bath and dish water while our well was being re-dug. When we gave it back and offered to pay for the use of it, he just said "In the country, when a neighbor needs help you meet that need if you can. The way you pay it back is to be there when you see someone in need and you can meet their need, you do it". So that kind of became our way of life.

When I married DH and his DD 1st husband left her, we had just sold our house so we payed for her divorce and payed some of her bills. I told DH not to expect her to pay it back because we knew she couldn't. I felt if it was a loan that it would just cause more problems in the future because she could never pay it back. My parents never helped me with money, but they gave DS the money to pay down on her first house and when her DH left her and the kids Daddy payed for her divorce. He threw that at her for years. Believe me she has more than payed him back a long time ago. She is the one who pays for a lot of things for him now. He gave baby sister everything she wanted and then because he has no money he blames her and her DH for him not having any money. But when she and I met him for the ultrasound, he gave her all the money in his pocket and told her he was sorry he didn't have more to give her. He told me about it and told me not to tell DS. I've never told DS about it because I know it would really hurt her with all that she and BIL spend on him. He wouldn't have a cell phone if it weren't for them. They always joke about BIL being Daddy's and DS sugar daddy. Since baby sister and her DH never payed back money to them it is best I don't tell them. I learned years ago to stay out of all their stuff.

Than God I don't owe him anything. What I buy for him or do for him is strictly out of love as well as the fact that it is the right thing to do out of "respect and honor" for our parents. It is best to do what you can do and forget the rest.

Carol Sue and Mad So glad y'all have got your CPAP's adjusted for better rest. I am learning that getting to bed a little earlier and getting a good nights sleep is a big help. I am sleeping so much better now that I'm not eating snacks at night. I went to bed around 1 am and I didn't wake up to go to the toilet until 5:30 this morning and went back to sleep and got up around 8:30. So I got a good nights sleep and got up ready to go.

I decided to look at the Atkins Diet Made Easy book to see what she recommends to eat for breakfast etc. One of the breakfast samples was 2 eggs, 2 oz bacon, or ham or pork chop and a tomato, or greens like spinach or kale. I remember when tomatoes were not allowed on low carb diets. So I decided that to have 2 eggs, 2 slices of bacon and 1/2 banana wasn't really a bad choice. So that is what I had for breakfast. We are having cod fish for dinner.

I actually enjoyed having just 2 meals yesterday. I like eating brunch at 11ish. Since DH likes to eat dinner at 3ish which would give me a 4:20 ratio so I am going to try to do that more days than not. FBS was back down below 150s and weight back down to 220. Hopefully it will continue to go down. This is probably why I need to think more about using the measuring tape. I hope the weight will continue to come down, but I have to get my brain around this to so I don't get derailed.

Mad, I did not adjust my CPAP. I just found and bookmarked the instructions on how to do it. I'm not even sure I need to, but would like to try and see if there's a difference, then be able to change it back if necessary.

DH has a son who is 2 years older. The only time we had to help him was after his first wife left and left him with all the bills. He was able to watch his pennies and get all his bills paid, but we helped him with food. When his wife left, she told him he could have the house and everything, she just wanted out. We told him "Run, don't walk to the attorney and get this in writing before she realizes what she did." He listened and she didn't get anything. She had a rich boyfriend waiting in the wings and didn't need it.

There were times that I struggled, and also times that DH and I struggled, but we just had to scrimp. We had no one to turn to. Everyone was maxed out back then. The thing that saved us was when I lost my job in 2000. I got a big severance package for 33 years of service, plus all the vacation time I didn't use. I paid off our house, cars and credit cards. Every time we struggled something came up. God has always taken care of us. Now on SS we have enough to get by, but we're far from rich.

My weight is coming back down again. I wish it would stop fluctuating and just come down, but I can't expect to get more than I give.

Yay! I finally made it down into my exercise room for a 30 minute session. It was a mixture of the Pilates Chair, The Ab Doer, the recumbent bike and the treadmill. DH put a light up in the beams above the treadmill, but the readout on this treadmill is in a different location from the old treadmill so he is going to move the light for me so I can better see the numbers. It's now in a shadow.

I forgot to put my knee brace on. It's ok now, but might be achy tomorrow. I also have to take another pair of shoes down there to wear when I use the recumbent bike. The shoes I wear are wider across the front and don't want to fit in the pedal. The shoes I wear on the bike don't have to be hard supportive shoes. I'm into this!!

Carol Sue Great you are getting into the exercise room. I'm also did some exercise this morning too. This makes 2 days this week although I only did 15 minutes instead of 20, but at least I did it. Hopefully the housework I did makes up for the 5 minutes or I might just do the bike later just to get the 5 minutes done.

My plan is to fast now until brunch or dinner tomorrow. I'm kind of learning to take it one day at a time and decided each day whether I want to do OMAD, 2MAD or 3 meals or 2 and a snack. It seems to go easier that way because if I plan it, I mess up and have to deal with feeling like a failure.

Mad I forgot to wish you a safe trip. Have a great time with DD.

Carol: congrats on getting back to your exercises. That sounds like a good variety of exercises, and a good start.
Trish: sounds like a good way to do IF, and if you are sleeping better, its all around a better life. I am enjoying it. I had very little insomnia and didn't feel to bad last night, but also not worried since I could sleep a little late. The CBT says not to do that, but it eased my mind. My sleep cycle will be screwed up for the next couple of weeks with travel and jet lag, so I am not going to sweat it for now.
Had my counselling session today, and went to hot yoga afterward. I haven't been to that yoga studio much for the last 2 years, because my brother-in-law and SIL went there. They mostly go mornings. I will be avoiding them the rest of my life, I'm sure, but I do enjoy yoga, I have a lot of paid classes there, and I feel ready to just enjoy and go.
I get to go out for supper and go sing and enjoy live music with my jamming friends, so this will be fun.

I had a little help from my parents when I bought my first car for midwifery school. Same with DH, he had a little help for some school stuff. But since we finished our education, we have been on our own, and helping out if needed. Same with my sister. My Dad always worried the last few year about us both, as we paid off mortgages and cars, and got debt free, and had pensions, he was still worried. We just encouraged him to use up the savings, but he wasn't well enough to travel the last while. I guess if he hadn't been in assisted living he could have saved up his pension money, but that place was so good for him and his health, it was worth every penny. I am a little sad to have the inheritance I do, he and Mum worked so hard to save it. Most of it went into pension savings for me and DH so we will not be poor in old age. But we have worked for it all, and saved in many ways to have what we do. I hope our youngest will be ok with money as she gets older. He boyfriend that she is living with now is a good saver, so that helps. But he is crazy about her, so there is a chance she can get around his saving ways if they are not careful!

In any case, have a good evening friends

No scale movement this morning. I am a little achy today but I don't think it's from exercise except for a bit of a back ache. I might have to get rid of the ab doer. If you've ever seen one, it's a lot of waist twisting and bending. I have a history of back problems but haven't had any issue for years. This ab doer might bring them back.

I will soon be starting making the birthday cake. Hope it turns out good. I haven't made this scratch cake for years. After that's done, I have to go to Walmart to pick up an order. We ordered an ink cartridge for our printer. It is a recycled cartridge for $10. We are going to try it to see if it's any good. If not, we will buy a new one. It's a black cartridge. Right now we are using the color cartridge only. I know some people do that all the time because the color cartridge will print just black. We don't print anything important, unless step-daughter uses our computer for resumes and such.

Mad, I have no problem with helping kids when they need help. It doesn't sound as though you took advantage of your father's generosity.

Trish, I also do not plan my eating, but just take it as it comes. I never know ahead of time when I will be fasting. If dinner time comes and I'm not hungry, that day turns into a longer fast than usual. Then if I happen to get hungry later on I will eat something. It depends on the hunger. Hunger doesn't bother me if it's just a bit of stomach growling, but if I get what I call sick hunger, then I eat something. Last night I got hungry. I had a piece of my low cal/carb bread toasted with peanut butter. That might be why FBG was 167 this morning and I didn't show a loss on the scale. I probably could have made a better choice.

good morning: slept ok, I think the new CPAP setting is much better for me. I sleep a bit longer before waking for the bathroom, and thats in spite of drinking plenty of water last night while out. certainly more fluid in the evening than I would normally have. I also got out for a good walk yesterday, using my "urban poles". I had been avoiding them because of the arm injury, but I want to take them to Scotland for the hill walking. They also transfer some weight to the arms, so gives me a little weight-bearing exercise for the upper body while I walk, and its supposed to help take some of the weight off the hips and reduce wear and tear there. I have used them somewhat in the past, but want to increase that this year. I helps me get ready for cross-county skiing when we get snow. (no I am no where near Calgary that just got a huge dump of snow). I also went to yoga class yesterday after my counselling, since the two places were in the same neighbourhood. I haven't been to a class there in about 2 years, since the falling out with BIL and SIL. They used to go there too. But by going in the afternoon, I think I avoided them, and not sure if they even still go there. We have barely spoken in that time, other than saying hello at parties and such when it would be more awkward to say nothing. We try to be civil, but thats it.
So this is the next fasting day. I am mentally in a good place to accomplish this. I followed the advice from the support group to eat plenty of fat in my meals, and I have some plans to help if I start to feel crummy, and some preventative measures.
Mostly when I have fasted, I have stuck to tea and water. This time I will add broth with plenty of salt, will take extra magnesium,. I am going to start ACV, and even take some pickle juice. I have tried it, its like liquid pickles, and I love pickles so that should be ok. These are some of the strategies suggested, so I am hoping this will help me power through this 2nd fast this week.
I am trying to do this challenging fasting protocol both to jump start a weight loss again, so I don't plateau here at 159. I also hope that this will give me a grounding to having some longer fasts, like 3-5 days, in time. The big benefit I am hoping for is something called "autophagy". So please don't think I'm nuts. I get a little boost of autophagy after about 24 hours of fasting, when I switch from a glucose based fuel burning system, to fat burning systems. But longer fasts will increase this. Its one of the ways to prevent a lot of loose skin when losing weight, but it also really great for regenerating the liver and helping it heal. As you may remember, my CT scans and ultrasounds showed a pretty severe fatty liver. So that is what I really need to get rid of. When I check my own belly, I think it is a little smaller than it was in the spring, instead of so enlarged, so I hope I am helping it heal already, and want to help that along the way.
I think I am feeling better by far, in many ways, but it has been gradual so sometimes hard to tell, and of course sleep issues affect all of that too.

Carol, I think if you are feeling some back pain that isn't just stiff muscles, avoiding a thing that uses twisting motions may not be a good idea. If you can do planks, or even modified planks, they are been shown to be more effective for ab work without the back problems that crunches and such can cause. I found the planks very hard to do at yoga yesterday, I have clearly not been doing enough of that. Time to get back to that, much more regularly.
Good for you to get into your exercise room.
Trish, congrats on doing better with your eating regimen. I hope you are starting to feel some benefits. Even feeling better is worth it, weight loss and inch loss will follow with time.
Pipsicle, hope you have been doing ok learning to get on this WOE if thats right for you too.

Mad, I couldn't do a plank if my life depended on it. :D I will continue to use the abdoer but gently, and if it still causes a problem I'll just get rid of it. It cost me $15 and I've wasted more than that in my lifetime. I wanted this because it was something that could be done sitting down.

Her is a video of how it's used. I only did some side to side and back to front motions. It's not as easy as they make it look. It could be easy to lose your balance on some of those moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8tM7fRwmOo

The cake is in the oven. I won't get to try it beforehand, but the batter tasted the way it should. I found out Grandma's secret. It is a very heavy cake, and everyone liked it because of that. It is a Red Velvet Cake but she called it Red Village Inn Cake. Rather than dig out her recipe, I found one online and it actually calls for sifted cake flour and she only used regular flour, so that is why it was so heavy. I used regular flour too, because I wanted it to turn out like hers that eveyone loved. The recipe might have been handed down through the family, and that's the way she got it. I bought a qt of buttermilk 2 days ago, but when I opened it up it was bad. Dated Oct 20. It would not pour out of the carton, and you had to shake it to get it to plop out. I sent DH back to the store. The one he bought had the same date, but it poured. I should have had him take it back with him, but I don't usually return food. I just dump it out and take the loss. With something like milk, they could think you didn't refrigerate it properly even though I know I did and it's not hot here right now.

Yesterday was not best eating day as I caved in last night and snacked. I was just so hungry and I didn't make good choices either, Carol Sue. My FBS was 162. I am learning that there are certain foods that are even ok snacks (my choices weren't all on that list) do raise my FBS the next day. I do so much better not to have any night snacks. My weight wasn't really a gain since it was up .6 lbs. I think the successful fasting days probably saved me there. Back OP today.

Carol Sue The cake sounds so good, but I don't make them any more since DH doesn't like cake. If I really want a piece of cake, I can have it when out at a buffet, but we don't even do that much any more. In fact, I don't do any baking any more. I do get hungry for a piece of pie once in a while and now that they have those frozen ones that have desserts for 2 people, I will buy those, but haven't been hungry enough for it to buy them in almost a year.

Mad I just learned a while back that my Daddy's grandfather's family was probably from Scotland. I have a cousin that has been doing our genealogy on my Mama's grandfather's ancestry and every once in a while the name of my Daddy's grandfather comes up from Scotland. I find it interesting to see way back in my ancestry that my Daddy and Mama's family may have connected.

There is no way that I could do planks and I don't know if I ever will be able to. I think I'm too fat and probably too old for that at this time any way.

Don't have any idea what we will eat today. I'm not really hungry for anything in particular but have to cook something for DH. Funny thing is last night I was so hungry but never could decide what I wanted which is a bad thing because that is how I get in trouble with eating anything and everything. I need to learn how to deal with that type of situation because I reverted back to old ways of snacking of chips. I think maybe eating them with humus may have been what saved me. I just hope it works out for me this time like it sometimes does so that me getting right back OP, I will see a good loss by the end of the week.

Y'all have a good day.

Carol, the ab thing looks great, but the hard part is doing the moves with only the abs and not using back and neck muscles to move yourself using it, same as for all ab exercises. I think I read that crunches would be ok if people did them properly without using the back and neck muscles. I hope the cake turns out well and everyone enjoys it. I think you are right to make it like grandma's recipe because thats what they want, that trip down memory lane.

Trish, sorry you had problems last night. If you get back to IF, make sure you get enough fat with those meals. Maybe not as much as I take, but enough to feel well satisfied.

I went walking on the trail with the urban poles, and was interested to see how many more steps I did using it, in the time frame. Usually in 45 minutes, I'm about 3800 but this was 4500. my pulse went up well too. was good for the hilly trail I went to today. I woke up in a funk. I don't know if I mentioned that I had a difficult counselling session. I am working to accept that I need to do this work to help me heal the anxiety and PTSD issues that have cropped up this year, but it was tough. I went to yoga afterward, and had the nice night out last night to help. But I felt kind of down when I got up. Tried to be positive, but am having a tough day, took a while to get dressed, really had to work on myself to go for that walk. It didn't hurt anything, but didn't help the mood either. But better than sitting around all day.

Trish, DH likes cake, but it's really a waste for me to make them for him because there's so much and after a couple days he doesn't want any more. Since the box cake mixes only cost $1.29 it's not really that much of a waste to throw it away. They now sell mixes for a smaller pan, but they include a small baking pan with it, so the cost is more than the cost of a bigger cake mix. He usually just buys coffee cake and such in the grocery store bakery, or buys those small pies they sell in Walmart.

Mad, all I really wanted from the abdoer was to be able to sit and bend my waist in various directions. I think I am really beyond ab exercises. I would not attempt crunches etc. My belly protrudes so much it doesn't bend.

carol, maybe you have talked about the surgery that left you with an enlarged belly, but I don't remember. What is that about?
I hope you can keep moving and stay healthy that way. Whatever it takes.
Today is mostly a write off except for my walk. I understand better why DD had days like this after her sessions. I really wasn't thinking about anything, I just couldn't move, Didn't even read. ugh

I actually made my 8 hr eating window. I didn't eat a lot of protein today. I'm dealing with a rash and where I always thought it was the carbs, I didn't have a problem since starting 8:16 IF until I tried to switch to more low carb. So I think it comes from trying to cut back on the carbs and eat more protein. I'm back to eating the way I was doing with a little more carb.

I wanted cheese toast and pb toast this morning instead of eggs etc. So that along with the 1/2 banana and coffee is all I ate for breakfast. We had DH fave SOS and a salad. I always take just a 1/2 cup of the chipped beef. I ended the meal with 70% dark chocolate and a few nuts with my pecan coffee. I decided to eat supper to keep from snacking so I had steel cut oats with yogurt and blueberries and a small glass of red wine. I decided I need to start drinking some of resevarol so I can drink it with the last meal of the day. Having the steel cut oats worked as I've been satisfied all night.

I hope everyone has a good night sleep tonight.

an ok sleep, but not the best. Still feeling a little low. I am not sure if its the back to back fasting or the counselling. DD was always low after this form of counselling, so will let that take the blame. I cannot afford to do nothing today, we leave tomorrow night. We have most stuff done now, and today I am having lunch and later supper with some friends I wanted to be sure to see before I go. Bestie and I out for lunch, haven't seen her for over a month, though we have touched base by email and text. The other is a colleague and former student who has a brain tumour so is off work. I haven't seen her since her diagnosis, and don't know what the update is, so wanted to check in on her while she is doing well, in that she can still drive.

Arm is a little sore from the poling yesterday, but I hope to get out again today for a bit, getting ready for the trip.
Trish, what kind of fat to you add to things? Olive oil? butter? mayo? avocado? You are too high carb to be getting the Keto rash, and that usually doesn't happen until you have been on it for a while. So I am wondering about an allergy to something. It is certainly odd. Well, the wine certainly gave you some nice carbs.
Have a lovely day everyone

I forgot to weigh before coffee and food today, so scale was back up to 197, but I know it's because of the food and liquid, so I'm ok with it.

Blood sugar was way up too. After DH gave the cake to his daughter he wanted some, so I made another one. I ate a piece of it, and it was way not worth it. Now I remember way back when I first met DH, everyone used to rave about this cake she made, and I, not really being a sweet lover, couldn't understand what the fuss was all about. To me, it was just OK, and it's just OK now. It is basically a red velvet cake. If I never have it again, I will be just fine.

Mad, what is it about the counseling that gets you so down, if you don't mind discussing it. One time my doctor asked if I think I'm depressed but I don't think I know the difference between depression and the normal highs and lows of life.

Trish, I remember clearly that you used to get that rash and said it was from eating too many carbs. So I don't think it's from not enough carbs, this time. If it's from protein, maybe it's a particular protein. Maybe Mad is right, that you have an allergy to something. Maybe you could keep close tabs on what you're eating to see if you can notice a pattern. Not necessarily track calories or carbs, but just which foods might cause the rash. Or maybe it's something else, like stress, or a soap or chemical you're using. Is it the same rash each time?

Mad, in 2011 I woke up with bad abdominal pain. It was the day after I used the Torso Track. By 4PM I was in the ER. They did a Cat Scan and by 8PM I was being prepped for surgery. I was not aware that I had diverticulitis. It perforated and the contents of my bowel went all through my abdomen causing severe peritonitis. They removed part of my bowel and I had a colostomy bag. To do this surgery, they cut my abdomen open vertically, cutting through my ab muscles. 6 months later they reversed the colostomy, cutting through the abdominal muscles again. Repairing the muscle is not part of the reversal. The muscles no longer hold anything in. I have bulges where the contents of my abdomen are poking through weakened abdominal wall. Everything is pulled toward the left, including my belly button. It is no longer in the middle of my belly, but a few inches off to the side. The bulging is bigger on the left side than the right. I don't know if all people who have that surgery end up like this or if it was because I started out with a good bit of abdominal fat. I also don't know if the doctor did not have me wear the binder long enough. I don't know what the result would be if I could lose the belly fat. The abdominal muscle would still be damaged and wouldn't hold the organs in place like it's supposed to. Years ago I worked with a woman who had a big protruding belly like me but I don't know what her's was from.

Yes, the rash is always the same. I haven't had it since I added the oats, lentils and small amount of grains. It came back when I decided to take those foods out of my diet and try to start Atkins again. One day back on Atkins and no grains and the rash was back. I actually believe I just need a small amount of them. Even though I had added some back into my diet plan, I was not eating all that much. FBS was back down to 144 this morning so I will not worry about them.

I read a book once that women do not need a lot of protein and I think I am one of those people at least for now. I know a man who was a low carber for years just because he loved eating meat and not harldy any starches if at all. I was shocked when my DS told me years later that he was diabetic and had stopped going out to eat with their church group because he had to go home and eat what his wife call mush which is oatmeal. It was the only way he could control the diabetes.

I'm not going to eat a lot of carbs, but just eat like I was before when things were working for me. The only fat I use is EVOO and butter although I don't eat a lot of either.

Weight is leveled off at one point so something is working since I'm not gaining. I will continue with IF as that seems to work in my favor so well. I won't make any big changes for now. I did so well with the oats in the evening and it gets a lot of other good foods in that I need for now so I will continue to eat it for a while. I'm keeping my other meals lower carb as I always eat. I still don't want to do high carb or keto low carb.

I've had 2 days back on 8:16 so all is good. It really is getting easier to pretty much stay within the 8 hr eating window. I'm just going to go with that for a while and see how that goes. Although I don't eat extremely low carb, I'm not going really low fat either. I actually am eating a little more butter and EVOO which seems to be making me more satisfied. At the same time I do use some FF products like FF half n half and nonfat yogurt. I use Pam type spray mainly because it makes for easier clean up.

Early day tomorrow going to beauty shop and going to see Daddy. I will run by the store after seeing him before I come home since I will over by the store that has the best fruit. I need to go to Walmart too sometime before Sunday when I do our meds for next week.

I'm headed to bed a little earlier tonight since I have to get up early. Hope we all are able to have a good nights sleep.

Carol: sounds like you had surgeons who left you with post-op herniations, which is not ok. That would really contribute to your back pain, if the abs can't work well. It may ben late to really bring them together, but surely there should be a repair in there. That kind of thing really depresses me. One of my clients who had a large umbilical hernia, had to have a c-section. I spoke with OB about it, and it was arranged to have another surgeon come to the section and since she was also getting her tubes tied, they put in an appliance to repair the hernia at the same time. Happy results for all.
I don't want to imply all is well with Canadian health care, but it was definitely one of the good moments.
Trish, this rash is a mystery, hope you can figure it out.

This was an eating day, may have had a little much today. I did a little comfort eating this evening. I had supper with my friend, colleague, former student who has a brain tumour. I guess I should say brain cancer, the tumour was (mostly) removed. Found out this cancer was pretty advanced, and she will likely never work again, and not many more years to live. Her daughters are 17-20-23, and Dad has hardly been in the picture for years. So her priority is to help them prepare to live their lives without her.
SO I was a little bummed.
However, the comfort food was steel cut oats cooked in milk, with some frozen cherries, and a little maple syrup. Not so terrible really.

My daughter also came to see us today before we leave for our trip. She has been having this EMDR therapy for a while, and after sessions often had very quiet days with no motivation. With PTSD the memory gets locked into a part of the brain instead of diffusing in the way most of our memories do. (this was a plain language explanation given to me years ago, my neurology courses are too long ago for me to be competent to do a better explanation) The EMDR therapy is an electrical stimulation on both sides of the body (the EM stood for eye movement, but now they often use hand held devices, which is what I did) in order to stimulate both sides of the brain to deal with the memory. Its a pretty intense time, unpacking old traumatic memories, looking at them, reliving them for most of an hour, then repacking them and putting them away.
I expected a tough time that day, but not so much the day after. I wasn't dwelling on anything, not really thinking about anything, If I am depressed or anxious, I am dwelling on events or sadness all day.
As DD explained, after the therapy, we are building new neural pathways, and that is exhausting.
Made me feel better about my day. I was pretty normal today. Still not terribly motivated, but able to get myself moving, and once moving, I had momentum and kept going.

Tomorrow we finish packing and leave 7 pm!

Woot! Woot! FBS 85
Boo! Boo! The scale is teasing me
Up, down, up, down, up
Woot! Woot! Sleeping better

Happy Friday!

Great FBS Popsicle! The scale might need a little more coaxing!

Mad I had seromas after my surgery and had 6 months of home care after the surgery then the surgeon left the hospital and moved out of state. He instructed me to follow up with the surgery team if I had problems which I did not. I was just sick of doctors and hospitals at that point. I figured I could live with a fat misshapen belly. So maybe my fault. My problem also includes a lot of fat on my belly. I would like to get rid of that and that might help the issue.

I don't have back pain. It hurt a little after doing the twisting exercise but was fine the next day. My pain is feet, knees, hands.

Pipsicle, don't worry too much about the scale, but a blood sugar like that is worth celebrating!
Have you tried waist measurements, just once a week in the am. Even when the scale doesn't budge much, that seems to steadily improve.
my own weight is up a bit after a big eating day yesterday. Unfortunately, I even ate during the night when I couldn't sleep. That was not on plan, and didn't help me sleep either. Oh well, I expect I'm just excited and maybe I will sleep a bit on the plan. I downloaded some meditation audio files for me to listen to on the flight.
I will likely check in from time to time, since we will have internet. otherwise, will chat when I return.
Have a good weekend everyone

I can't get my blood sugar down to save my soul. I believe it is carb creep and I'm letting more in than I think .Today I will eat to my meter. No eating unless it's below 120 or so. I'll fit a big salad in somewhere. I'm in a salad mood.

Weight and blood sugar both down today. Low carb saves the day again!

I've been kind of busy yesterday and today. Next week will be a busy week so not much to report. I am working at trying to spend more time living without thinking about food all the time as I'm so tired of reading books on food etc.

Weigh has leveled off no gain or loss and FBS is 152 this morning. Sleep is good and energy is fair not where I want it. Learning to relax and de-stress. I have been feeling myself becoming anxious and jittery a lot because I feel overwhelmed by everything in my life.

Mad sharing about the things she has been going through with dealing with trauma in her life made me realize this is what I'm going through with dealing with my Daddy. I am blessed to have my DH and DS to talk to and I realize those things are why I have lived my whole life locked in "anxiety" state. My sisters deal with depression and take meds for it. Baby sister takes or has taken meds for anxiety. I never thought about me experiencing those things. I don't want to use meds. I would rather deal with it and get past it without them. I suddenly realize that is what I'm doing. I had a great talk with DH and how it affects my relationship with him. He has been a great help. My prayer life is helping me with it as well and I'm beginning to let it all go and feeling totally free from the things that have caused it. May even help me to get my eating straightened out.

SC doctor once told me "You've been doing this long enough that you should know what to do". I think he was right. I get all messed up when I read about new diets etc. I've read a lot lately about certain nutrients that are good for me and just might help with some of the things I'm feeling lately. I've corrected things in the past by eating certain foods etc and I want to do that now. I've got info on what they call super foods especially for diabetes so I need to just work with those.

I used to play a game with myself where I chose certain foods by what it was good for. Example high cholesterol runs in my Mama's family so I learned from her to eat oatmeal. Berries are good for keeping the arteries clean, etc. I think I'm going to start doing that again. I'm a person likes to know why I can or can't do something and use what I need that helpful for me. It has worked many times in the past and will see how it works for me now.

I really think WW has a great plan when it comes to eating more fruits and veggies to get nutrition and antioxidents so I want to start eating more of those types of foods although I do think I need to limit some of the fruit which will fit very nicely in a good breakfast of oat or steel cut oats. Veggies with hummus makes a good evening snack. NO I am not going to do WW, but it doesn't hurt to take the good ideas they have and use them to create a healthy way of eating for me. So just working to get myself more organized.

I guess Mad left for her trip last night and pray for her a safe and great trip.

Carol Sue Glad your FBS was better today.

Pipsicle Glad things are going good for you too. Be patient with the scale and it is a good idea to use the measuring tape to help encourage you.

Y'all have a great weekend.

Back on track this morning using the things I've learned that I want or need to use in my diet plan and tracked it on MFP. The amazing thing is that I've had breakfast with the steel cut oats and fruit and Greek yogurt and have a planned lunch for today and with 2 meals I will have a little over 1000 calories and can actually stop with a 5 hr eating window with no problems. My hope is that if I eat enough for breakfast and lunch that I will not need anything the rest of the day. The amazing thing is that my carbs are within the amount allowed for the day with some left over.

I've been so caught up in the low carb eat more protein and everyone is going with keto or eating mostly meat for their protein. I suddenly realized the other day I don't have to have eggs or meat all the time to get protein. Greek yogurt in my steel cut oats is protein. Fruits and veggies are carbs as well as is the starchy carbs. I remember the book I have of Low Carb for Dummies which brings this out and show how you really don't have to count the carbs in fruit and veggies. The only fruit she didn't allow to be a freebie is banana because she said that was the only fruit some people would ever eat.

Then I've been thinking about Fuhrman's book on reversing diabetes and it being more of a vegetarian diet. The foods in his book are carbs. I read yesterday in a nutrition article I got on line that research showed that grapefruit juice softens stiff arteries for women after drinking it for a number of months. I think it was like 6 months. I'm saying all this to say that there are a lot of good foods out there that are good healthy foods that we seem to think we have to write off. I don't think I could eat or drink grapefruit all the time although I actually went through a time that I craved it. LOL Can you imagine craving grapefruit?

I am so sure that IF is key to a chance of being successful at either reversing or controlling blood sugar that I will always do IF. My goal is to get back to my 2MAD. I just don't think I have to give up some of the foods that I like. I believe they can be included in a healthy eating plan. It all goes back to learning what works for each of us individually. I have a niece who keeps her bs controlled and she is a vegetarian and eats very little if any meat. Baby sister maintains eating mostly keto/low carb, but she lost the weight on lowfat diet. It is just as my SC doctor said, you have to learn what you can live with. I honestly believe that.

Have a great day.

Trish, I agree that this plan you are following is very good for you. I see great things in your future, healthwise.

I love grapefruit and grapefruit juice, but unfortunately I can't have it because it interferes with statins. When I worked at the pharmacy, I read something on their pharmacy notes that said that if you are taking statins you should avoid large quantities of grapefruit juice, as in a quart or more a day. I would never have that much. I like to buy those grapefruit sections that have the juice with them, and it's just a small amount. But the pharmacist argued with me and told me I should not have any. I don't know what to believe. All other sites seem to say don't have any.

I am about ready to dump all my meds and just live whatever's left of my life the way I want. I eat healthy. I'm just so sick of meds. The doctors want me to take these meds so they can see certain numbers on my blood test results. But what about my quality of life? I have had a lot of pain the past couple days. I did cut back on my Turmeric to see if maybe I didn't need it anymore, so I don't know if that's why I have the pain. I got tired of it today and took Tylenol Arthritis and the pain med the doctor gave me. I feel much better now.

A woman on the LC forum has lupus and she talks about the diet she has to follow to ease her symptoms, which include pain. Today I was reading about the Autoimmume Paleo diet which she follows. I was shocked to see that eggs, particularly egg whites are not included. So of all the things I've tried to eliminate my pain, eggs could be the culprit. I think that's why I'm so depressed today. I love eggs, and they are a big part of my diet. I can't imagine in my wildest dreams not have eggs every day. I did start eating more of them in the past year, and that's when this pain flared up. Coffee is another culprit, but I could give up coffee before eggs. Maybe I will see if my doctor will continue to prescribe the pain meds for me and to heck with trying to find a natural way to handle all this.

Carol Sue I wondered if you were okay since I haven't seen you here much the past few days. I actually thought maybe you had gone to the casino yesterday.

I know how you feel about the meds and everything, but when I think of the alternatives, I really want to live as much of a good quality life as I can. I didn't know about the grapefruit and statins. Thanks for letting me know. I did find frozen cherry berry blend at Walmart that I am using in my oats hoping it will help me relieve some problems I have been experiencing. I probably won't be adding grapefruit to my woe.

Are you still taking the Tart Cherry extract? I thought that with the turmeric was helping relieve you pain. I know it is frustrating when it flares up and you don't really know why. I pray you will find the answer.

I'm beginning to wonder if the statin has taken affect with me and might be preventing me from lowering my FBS. I will do my best to do 2MAD to see how things go. I am finding that the bs reading is lower before my second meal when I eat the oats combo than it is when I eat the eggs and bacon with or without toast. So I decided to eat the oats each day for breakfast. I decided that I could save the eggs and have them for a 3rd meal/snack if I need it. However, I'm hoping I won't need it.

DH likes BLT minus the lettuce once in a while and I figure I can get my bacon then. As for my eggs and bacon, I just don't think I would like knowing I could never have them again. So I feel your pain/frustration with it. You might try taking the cherry extract and turmeric the way you were when you had stopped the pain and then experiment with the eggs to see if it is a problem for you.

I've got pork tenderloin in the crockpot that I cooked all night. I'm hoping to get 2 servings for DH and my meal today and then have some pulled pork out of it for him to have for lunch tomorrow since I have to go meet Daddy and DS for his nerve test right at the time we usually eat. I will eat something when I get home. Baby sister has canceled going with us and I'm not sure if I'm still taking her to the beauty shop Tuesday morning or not.

Hope you get to feeling better Carol Sue and please go ahead and take your meds. You are feeling pretty much the way I did last week. It will pass so just keep doing what you know to do and you will get through it. Remember you also exercised last week so that may be part of the problem. You may have to pull back and not do so much at one time. We don't like to admit it but we are older and the weather changes things too for us. Oh how I hate admitting that one. LOL

HI friends: I am having a great time so far, and So happy to see older DD today when she arrived.
We have been going out to pubs for the best things in life, live music and people. However, i am way off plan in that I am drinking cider, and plenty of it. Because people are very chatty here, and want to buy a round for the Canadians, then we buy a round for them, and next thing i know I have had three pretty large drinks.
We are having a great time. Mostly eating ok, buying food at the grocers, though I did have a roast beef dinner, minus the gravy and Yorkshire pudding (very bread like thing, not sweet or pudding at all)
We have walked most places, but our airbnb is so close to everything we are doing, that doesn't add up to much walking.
In the morning we leave for Inverness and start being more adventurous, DD and I are planning a "walk" that sounds pretty strenuous in the Cairngorms.
I hope I can keep up. Had a little trouble with the dancing tonight, got out of breath sooner than I would like. Must get into better shape, and now!

Carol and Trish: I think there comes a time when you say "I'm managing ok with what I am doing, and I'm enjoying how things are" and there's a time when you double down and work through things. Where we each are in our lives at different points, we will do what is right. I often say to the people I care for: "I will give you information about the risks and benefits of this and that, and its up to you to make the decision about it that suits your family" as we are all different with different needs and expectations. And I marvel at how well and at peace people are with those decisions. If I check back with them later, they are still resolved usually to their original decision. If they dither, I ask them what they need to know that will help with deciding, and usually its that knowledge they need, and then can make the decision final.
Perhaps thats what we need. Its hard to balance all the multiple issues we may have to deal with at any one time.
In one of Dr. Fung's books, they tackle that. If you can't concentrate on diabetes and lowering blood sugar or losing weight, because of other health issues that are more pressing, then deal with them first. Or deal with blood sugar, and don't worry about all the other studies and new super foods, etc. DOn't always confuse the issues.
I have been very much able to stick with the blood sugar issue, although I have been able to CBT, EMDR and deal with my insomnia and CPAP at the same time, because they do not take me away from the eating plan.
I think this vacation may be a problem, so I will work on resetting myself tonight. I have certainly had a great time for two days, but tomorrow I can start the holiday planned with DD with all the hiking etc and forget the pubs.
Hi to Pipsicle and all the lurkers


Have a good night, tomorrow will be Thanksgiving Day in Canada, I am thankful for this group and your presence here.

Mad, it sounds like you are having a great time. I wouldn't worry much about being on plan while on vacation. It's just a short time. Just enjoy yourself and get back down to business when you get home. You are doing great, and I doubt that you are really doing all that bad on vacation.

Trish, I will continue to take my meds, but my point is, they may be keeping me healthier as far as the blood work goes, but if I still have pain, I still have limited mobility, cannot do stairs without fear of falling, then that's what I mean by quality of life. I feel that I caused this by allowing myself to gain this weight that I can't seem to get off, and by discontinuing my exercise that I did so diligently when I was younger.

I took the Tylenol Arthritis and also the RX pain med today and I feel pretty good now. I still take the Tart Cherry but I think that's for gout, and I don't know if I have gout. DH thinks I do. I'm still taking the other supplements but cut back to 1 a day. Pain returned, so I guess I need to continue with 2 a day. I really don't think I'm going to discontinue the eggs, but when they are fried, I will only eat the yolk. If DH makes scrambled, the whites will be included.

From what I read online, statins do raise blood sugar, but not a lot, and the good effects of the statins outweigh the blood sugar issues. That's easy to say when you are not the one with the blood sugar issues.

When I see people who haven't seen me for a while, they tell me I look so good, but they don't realize how terrible I feel. I think I would rather feel great and look terrible. LOL

We went to Bob Evans for dinner. I got a chicken, cranberry pecan salad. It's very good. They sell a similar salad at Wendys that also contains apples. Wendy's salad is better than Bob Evans. I think from now on when we go out to eat I will always get a salad. It's usually a safe choice carb wise.

I haven't been sleeping well the past few days. I've also been falling asleep in my recliner a few times, and one time I fell asleep sitting at the computer. It's a wonder I didn't fall out of my chair. LOL

Carol- I am sorry to hear the pain is worse again. Maybe just cutting back on the amount of eggs would be enough? Of course, that is assuming it is the eggs that are the problem. Personally, I think eggs are ok.

Patty- Totally understandable on not wanting to continue to read everything out there on dieting and eating well. There is so much information. That's why I've taken to asking so many questions. It is hard to pull out the nugget I need from all that is out there.

Mad- Glad your trip is going well! Happy Thanksgiving!

This morning my FBS was 99 -normal for the first time in a long time. The 86 I got recently was after a longer fast. This 99 is from first thing in the morning. It seems the dawn phenomena that I had been seeing has run its course. Of course, I'd like to understand why. Do you think this means my liver is done releasing excess glucose?

The other things that could contribute are new set of testing strips (could they be off some how), better sleep (taking a med earlier instead of later seems to be helping me fall asleep sooner), and my doctor increased my thyroid hormone. Maybe it is a little bit of all of them. The drop in FBS seemed to happen nearly over night. Super glad and hope it stays that way. Now I can focus more on the BP which seems to have jumped up recently. I'm going to look into grapefruit and grapefruit juice.

Also, I've seen a couple of mentions to measure with a tape measure. Ultimately, I wear a tape measure at least once a week (pants that fit but are not supper comfortable). They are showing there is no change in measurement. Last week, I wore a pair that were really tight but ok. Ok that is until about lunch time and they got really, really tight. I must have been starting to bloat for some reason and I was very happy I was on my way home from work.

With regard to tart cherry juice, there was a study not too long ago that showed it helped people stay asleep longer. It helps my husband do that. When I tried it, I had trouble getting going the next day. I seem to be sensitive that way. Melatonin and OTC sleep aids do the same thing to me.

Pipsicle, when I first started taking the Tart Cherry Extract I seemed to sleep better, but not this past week. Could be something else. And the Tart Cherry Extract could be what has been making me fall asleep in my recliner and at the computer.

All the things you mentioned could be contributing to the lower FBG. Hard to pinpoint which one it is. I hope the trend continues for you.

I can't remember exactly what it said about eggs. Something about something in the whites that shuts off some enzyme in the body. When I first read the list of foods to avoid for the Autoimmune Paleo Diet and saw eggs on the list I was in disbelief. I googled further and found the information on several sites, not just one, so I'm believing it's true. I might cut back a bit and see what happens. I recently started buying extra large eggs, too, because they are cheaper in a local store, believe it or not!! So that is contributing to me eating more.

Weight 195 FBG 135. Both going in the right direction, finally. I wore my wrist support to bed and it really worked. It keeps the wrist from moving and compresses it and stops the pain. I got that thing at Goodwill, new, still in the package, for 99 cents. At the time I bought it, I was having occasional wrist pain. DH gets wrist pain too but he won't use it. Stubborn. I still woke up early and couldn't fall back to sleep. One time I got up to go to the bathroom and when I was getting back into bed, DH rolled over somehow and we butted heads. Neither of us got hurt, but I don't know why he couldn't stay put until I got back into bed. He got up before me and I was able to fall back to sleep until 9AM. I needed that.

As the day went on my pain got to be less and less. I'm walking pretty steady, and I only got one sharp pain in my right knee that almost brought me to the floor. My wrist still hurts, just on the bone that sticks out on the side. I will wear the support to bed again. I didn't wear it all day.

I had eggs and toast this morning but didn't eat the whites. That was so hard, throwing them down the disposal. No butter on the 35cal toast. At lunch time DH made french fries and I ate 10, along with a stick of celery with cream cheese. For dinner, DH wanted tacos from Taco Bell. I didn't, so I grilled some calf liver. I only get to make that when there's something else for him to eat. He is mad because Taco Bell doesn't have french fries. :lol: I didn't have any vegetables today, so maybe later on I will make a salad. I could really go for some ice cream but luckily we don't have any.