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dgramie 02-24-2015 07:46 PM

Not been doing well at all with eating. Started back at it today.

dgramie 02-25-2015 08:07 AM

Ready for day 2! My dr wants me to check fbs weekly. I think Thursday will be my day.
I am determined to get this weight back off.
Hubby is struggling with his glucose. But his eating is far from where it should be.

Wannabehealthy 02-25-2015 09:08 AM

Dgramie, my eating is far from what it should be, too. I'm at the point that I don't know what is right. You hear so many different opinions and how do you decided who's right or wrong? Most of these people are doctors or other medical professions, but they don't agree. They are at totally different ends of the spectrum. You go along thinking you are on track, then someone comes along and then you're doing it all wrong. I am just confused and disgusted with it all.

I am glad you are getting back on track and I hope you lose the weight you want to lose. I want that for all of us.

Trish, I watched the video from Dr Fong. It seemed to lead to more and more videos, some by different people. Then along came this video saying that diabetics should NOT be eating eggs at all. I was ready to take the bridge. I did some further googling and found an article on WebMD saying that eggs are a very good choice for diabetics because they are fat and protein, do not raise blood sugar, and keep you satisfied longer. I have always trusted WebMD and I am going to disregard what the others are saying, since I have never even heard of them.

Although I understand what Dr Fung is saying, I can't find anywhere that the actual program is outlined. He says to do IF, either daily, or fasting on alternate days, but I can find no other instructions as to what exactly he means. IF means different things to different people. And just how low calorie are you supposed to go? He compares it to bariatric surgery, but those people are on extremely low calorie eating plans, due to the small size of their pouch. They lose a lot of weight quickly and their diabetes goes away instantly, but many of them have a lot of issues due to lack of nutrition. They have to take a lot of vitamins and supplements, and that doesn't always help with malnutrition. Eventually the pouch stretches and they are able to eat more. Not all, but many of them gain back a lot of their weight and their diabetes comes back.

Or maybe he means keep your calories up during your eating period, but make sure you have a long fasting period too. I would just like to see something that explains it further.

Am I missing something?

fatmad 02-25-2015 09:10 AM

Dgramie: what plan are you going to use? I think the most important thing is to simply make a plan, then get rid of any food in the house that shouldn't be there. (pitch the ice cream, and cookies etc)

SO had a little whoosh today, and have changed the ticker down. I hope to be below 180 very soon!

I am encouraged that my off days have not gotten me totally off track, and that I have successfully gotten back on plan so I don't gain again.

I have a long teleconference today, and plan to do some of it on the treadmill, even a slow pace is better than sitting right?

Wannabehealthy 02-25-2015 09:53 AM

Mad, I think the treadmill during teleconferencing is a great idea! I do that while I'm watching my soaps, except for when I seem to get away from it for some reason, which has happened often lately. There is a morning radio news show locally where one of the guys walks slowly on a treadmill through the entire 3 hour program. It was started because of the recent trend of some businesses providing treadmill work stations for their employees. I want to turn my home pc desk into a stand-up desk but DH nixed that idea. I am online so much that a treadmill work station would be just the ticket for me.

Good job on the whoosh! This is what we want!!

Sometimes it's hard to purge the house of foods that shouldn't be there, when there is someone else in the household who wants and eats those foods. Like DH. He's not going to give up these foods, since he does not have any visible problems with them. No weight issues, ever, only 1 pill a day....for blood pressure. He doesn't feel that these foods are causing him any problems and has no plan on giving them up. I do a pretty good job of staying away from them. My thinking is, if I can learn to stay away from these foods when they are sitting right there in front of me, I'm ahead of the game. If they are never in the house that is a good thing, but I also don't have a problem when I'm away from home and am faced with those foods. Now I just need to learn how to work with my own food choices. There is no wrong or right with this. Each person has to do what works for them.

Ruthxxx 02-25-2015 10:23 AM

Been up a pound and down a pound all month - most frustrating. FBGL is still OK but I'm concerned about my next HA1C. It's been too darned cold to even think of cold meals and all the hot meals seem to include carbs which is what's keeping my weight stable. It doesn't help that I redisocvered my love of fruits while in Cuba. I wonder how an avocado would taste with splenda? ** Sigh **

pattygirl63 02-25-2015 11:29 AM

Carol Sue I had the same problem with Dr. Fung's videos plus when I googled him, he seems to be back in China or Singapore where ever he is from. I have felt the same way you do. I'm just tired of reading all the junk and everyone's idea is different. The problem I have always had with the bariatic surgery is that I know of no one who hasn't gained the weight back and more and had health problems. I think the reason it didn't work for my sister is that she started losing her hair. Plus when they did it they messed up something in her isophagus (sp), so she never went back.

I've decided that the lowcarb woe eating is the way to go. I got up this morning and had eggs with kale and my bacon and cheese. I've always trusted WebMD too. I am impressed with those on the lowcarb site that we have read and then we have JerseyGirl hereon 3fc that have done it for so many years. While I still don't want to count carbs, I honestly think if I just stick to the lowcarb veggies with a reasonable amount of protein that I will be okay. That is what I've decided to do and to heck with any other way. I want to be well and healthy so I can live a quality life for the rest of my life.

I know from experience that it takes me about 6 months if I do it faithfully to get my fbs back down to normal and all my numbers... cholesterol etc were normal. However, I also have to say that the weight loss was extremely slow. But just maybe the one thing I saw from those Fung videos is true, you have to get the insulin under control before you can get the weight coming off. The only way I will know is to do it and see what happens. I like what you learned about the eggs on WebMD. I may start eating eggs for my last meal or snack and see what happens.

Mad So happy for you getting back OP. I think the off times don't bother you when you are faithful to the plan the rest of the time. I always think about Dana Carpandar's book where she said she had planned "special" off meal. I think the key there is AN OFF MEAL not meals. I think when you lowcarb that you can have that one off meal from time to time without it causing a problem.

Ruthie I don't know if you are still doing SBD or not, but I thought avocado was one of those allowed foods. However, I'm not sure I was want any sweetner on it. LOL I like avocados for the way they keep me moving if you know what I mean especially when strictly lowcarbing. My problem is that they are too expensive to purchase individually they ruin before I get them eat when I get them in a bunch.

Dgramie I know it is difficult to get the days built up, but we can do it. Good for you doing day 2.

We are going to Costco today and eating at Sonny's BBQ. I find it easy to stay lowcarb when eating there so I'll do good today unless DH changes his mind or the weather changes our minds. We need to go to Costco in Charlotte and get back before it starts snowing here. Snow storm is supposed to hit us some say at 4 and some say 7 and snow all night. So I have to get some lowcarb friendly groceries in the house before it starts.

I can't believe how this winter has been. February is always worse here, but this has been really crazy weather all winter everywhere.

Have a good day.

Wannabehealthy 02-25-2015 03:29 PM

Trish, I don't remember what part of SC you are in, but I saw on the news that a winter storm is going through the south. Take care, and keep warm and dry. Our 14 day forecast looks pretty good. No snow, and rising temps, into the 40s.

I understand what DR Fung is saying, that fasting lowers insulin, which is what we want, but I wish he gave more details that to just say IF. What I think is IF might not be what he means. I can do LC and IF, and I am adding bacon in the morning and using butter. But I wish I had more details. I will keep searching for more information from him, and I'll let you know what I learn, if anything.

I am making a beef roast for dinner and DH wants mashed potatoes. I will have beef and veggies, and continue to try to keep from picking in the evening. Right now I'm getting hungry, which tells me I've done well today.

I meant to ask you how your DH is feeling with his shingles. I hope he's feeling better.

Ruth, I always heard that FBG is the last one to lower, so if you FBG is good, postprandial should be good also. I'll bet your A1c will be good. I think it takes more than a few carbs here and there to do big damage. The jury is still out on fruit, from what I am reading. It is higher carb, but they say it's handled differently by the body and is OK. But then moderation is the key. I don't think I would like Avacado with Splenda. LOL

Shannonsnail 02-25-2015 11:35 PM

Hi ladies! I have been MIA because my laptop died sometime around Valentine's day and my new one just arrived today. I also have a cell and iPad that get internet but the cell stopped charging properly so I had to get a new one (also arrived today) and my iPad has also stopped charging properly (dreading finding out what is wrong with it but my guess is if it can't be easily fixed, it will not be replaced) so I have not been using it much.

Anyway, all that to say that I am fine! We were trapped in the house all of last week due to ice and this week is the same. It snowed all day Tuesday and has been snowing all evening tonight - they are predicting up to 8 inches which is really crazy for where I live. So, preschool has been closed, bible study, night classes and MOPS have all been cancelled, two weeks now - I'm going nuts!! Mark leaves Sunday for a week in Atlanta, comes back for about three days then leaves again for San Francisco and gets back the evening before I am supposed to leave VERY EARLY the next day for my weekend sewing retreat. Normally I enjoy when he is gone - I don't mean that bad, it's just less laundry, less food to cook, less mess to clean up, etc. and means I can have more "me time" and more sleep at night bc I go to bed earlier and Olivia gets in bed with me if she wakes. But, I do not care for back to back trips especially right before I need to leave to go somewhere but hopefully it will all work out.

From Valentine's to this past weekend I have been more OFF my plan than on it but I am finally back on for 4 days now, though today I was very snacky (but everything I ate was considered on plan). I think I am still losing but very slowly. I will weigh on Friday and let you know my tally for the month. I have been experimenting with lots of meals and am finding some I like a lot. I am still trying to drink the ACV drinks - my new fave is made with frozen strawberries and the juice of one lime - strawberry limeade GGMS (good girl moonshine). I made some peanut butter cookies today from natural PB that is on plan and pretty much binged on them so I will not be making those again for a while. I also binged on roasted cauliflower tonight - that was a first, bingeing on a vegetable!! It was soooo good - definitely a new favorite way of making cauli!

Oh, I must tell you about this - my "baby" is getting her big girl teeth!!! On Valentine's I saw that a big tooth was coming up behind her baby tooth and poking through the gum and two days ago I saw that the same is happening to the tooth next to that one. She still has not lost the baby teeth yet but one is extremely wiggly.

I hope everyone is doing well. I don't know if I will get to go back and read so I will just jump in from here rather than try to go back.

fatmad 02-26-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruthxxx (Post 5136042)
Been up a pound and down a pound all month - most frustrating. FBGL is still OK but I'm concerned about my next HA1C. It's been too darned cold to even think of cold meals and all the hot meals seem to include carbs which is what's keeping my weight stable. It doesn't help that I redisocvered my love of fruits while in Cuba. I wonder how an avocado would taste with splenda? ** Sigh **

RUth: I often have a whole avocado to add fat when I have a higher protein meal, and want to add fat.
Atkins and other LC plans are not really high protein, they recommend fat to replace the carbs. the fat has no effect on our blood sugar.
SO enjoy the avocado, just not with potatoes!

Glad to hear from you, its been a cold winter. Im trying not to hibernate.

Wannabehealthy 02-26-2015 09:27 AM

Yesterday my eating was VERY good. I stayed on plan, stopped eating around 6PM, after dinner and did not have my egg at bedtime. It was an attempt at not breaking my fast. That did not go well. At bedtime, my BG was 136 and this morning it was 161. So I am coming to the conclusion that the egg is doing something good for my blood sugar and will go back to it as long as it is working. My weight was way up this morning for some reason. I'm not going to let it worry me because it feels like bloat and should come back off quickly. It could be the salt from the bacon. I do not usually eat bacon because I don't like the salty taste, but I was eating it because I felt that I should add the fat. I guess my body knows what it's doing by not liking it. I prefer sausage anyway with breakfast.

Shannon, I am glad you're back and doing well. It's not like you to just disappear. I can imagine what it's like to get this stormy winter weather when you're not accustomed to it. I saw on the news that the south was getting it and heard that some areas have lost electricity. I hope that hasn't effected you, Trish, Bonnie or Rennie, and any of our other friends who are in that area.

My 6 year old grandson lost his 2 front teeth just last week. As far as I know there is no sign of the new ones yet.

Trish, I noticed that in the video from Dr Fung that those people were doing the every-other-day fast. But in his blog that I read for hours last night, he has been recommending up to a 10 hour eating window, up to 3 meals, with no eating in between meals, no snacks. He said to allow that time in between to allow your insulin levels to drop. No calorie limit, but low carb. I think you could take a IE approach and eat enough to satisfy and hold you til the next meal, without overeating. I guess there would be no such thing as too short of an eating window. It would be a personal choice and recommended to go shorter. I now understand that I have to quit grabbing things between meals, even if they are low carb. If I want something, like some nuts, I should include them at mealtime. I can do it this way. I did IF long before I even knew what it was, and I was thin and free from diabetes. 2 or 3 meals will depend on when I have breakfast. For so many years I was guilty of grazing, and he said that's one of the worst things you can do for your diabetes. Every time you eat you raise your insulin levels. I guess those people who eat only 1 meal a day have the right idea.

I liked his explanation of breakfast. He says that you don't have to eat as soon as you get up, which has always been tossed back and forth. He said that the first time you eat each day, be in at 9AM or 1PM, you are breaking your fast, and that is breakfast.

I'm so glad you brought Dr Fung to my attention. I had to stop reading last night because it was bedtime. I will continue reading today, and I am bookmarking as I go along. This is probably the only plan I have not tried in the past, and I think it will help me. Even though my FBG has not been optimal, my overall blood sugar readings have not gone over 200 for the past few days and that is such a big improvement for me.

pattygirl63 02-26-2015 11:37 AM

Shannon So glad to hear from you. I tell you when my pc goes down it is like losing my best friend. My pc and my smart phone are my life line to my family who lives so far from me. Glad you got yours back. We didn't get hit as hard as they thought we would, or at least our neighborhood didn't. I have known of others getting snow etc and we didn't. DGS stayed with a friend at school last night in case he has afternoon classes so he could be with friends today if it snowed and wouldn't have to drive if streets were icy. We usually don't have all the equipment others have up north to prepare for these things, but evidently North and South Carolina decided to prepare this time. They already had the streets salted etc when we were out yesterday.

Mad I have been reading so much about lowcarb lately and although I know a lot of the Atkins people don't like the new Atkins plan, I have learned so much more than I understood from the original. I think because Dr. Atkins had 2 audiences.. lay people and the medical people. Since I conversed with a lady to went to the lecture groups given by Dr. Westman at Duke's University who helped write the new book, I understand so much more. I think the reason I've had such a problem with AI was that I wasn't eating enough fat. I just didn't get it. I just read somewhere what you said to Ruthie "Fat replaces carbs". I've decided to give AI another shot now that I understand the plan better. Although I also understand the GI/GL of the veggie carbs that are now allowed, I hesitate to eat carrots which I absolutely love. But I don't think those are on Induction any way and still not sure about them when I get past AI. My problem with some things fall into the same category with Fat vs. LF that I got hung up on for so long.

Carol Sue I tried your idea of eating eggs (I ate 2 scrambled in butter) as a snack around 10ish and it works. My FBS was in 159 yesterday and was 124 this morning. So I will be having 2 or 3 meals and a snack around 10 at night. I did read in the New Atkins book yesterday that you don't have to snack. He said eat when your hungry, but he recommended not going more than 6 hrs between meals.

I agree that this would work so well with IE. As you know, I have also mentioned in the past that I grew up eating only 2 meals a day with an occasional evening cold drink. Right now I think I've been conditioned/brainwashed into believing that I have to eat breakfast that now I think I have to have it. I think an 8 to 9 hour window will work good for me for now. I have also started writing down my plan in advance for the day again and counting my carbs. :?: I know I'm the one who didn't want to do that. Oh, Carol Sue my weight was up about 2 lbs this morning. However, one of the problems is that my eating was not 100% yesterday although it was better. I think when I did Atkins in the past that I did gain a few lbs the 1st few days, but if I remember right it was just the switching from the carbs to the fat and adjusting to it. I'm pretty sure it is a temporary adjustment thing. Mad is more experience with Atkins than I am and she can correct me if I'm wrong. But I do seem to remember my experience that way.

Guess I better get off of here as it is time for my weekly phone visit with my sister. You guys stay warm and have a great day.

Wannabehealthy 02-26-2015 12:39 PM

Trish, I am torn between having that egg at bedtime and keeping my fast, but I feel that the lower FBG is very telling. This morning I was reading more from Dr Fung and he discussed Atkins. He said that one problem people had after being on Atkins for a while was increasing their protein. Too much raises insulin, and he says the problem is insulin, not blood sugar. The blood sugar is a symptom of high insulin levels. The IF lowers insulin levels. I know you have always been on the low side with protein, so that should not be a problem for you.

I also have the book The New Atkins for a New You and I also like it. To me, it is basically the same as the original. I think the reason Jerseygirl doesn't like it is because it was not written by Dr Atkins, but it does use his same principals.

Today DH wanted mac and cheese for lunch. I made it for him from scratch. Lucky for me, he likes it made stove-top and I like it baked. I made too much and I put it in a container and froze it. Right now I am sticking to low carb very well, but one of these days I am going to have an off day and want some carbs, and I will get it out and bake it. It will be a planned, controlled cheat, and will be something I know I really like. One serving, and then I will move on. Also, sometimes I freeze things and then forget about them. Maybe I will not find it for months, then just toss it.

I am working very hard at not eating or snacking between meals, to let my insulin levels go down. Yesterday I only had 1/2 of a glymiperide tablet, half a gram, and none so far today. It increases insulin, and I don't want to take it anymore.

pattygirl63 02-26-2015 01:44 PM

Carol Sue I went to MFP and put in the amounts of protein for my heighth and the 20 g carbs in the custom percentages plan. The lowest carbs they allow is 5% and then it jumps to 10% no in between so I put in the 5% which allows 19 g, but when I track the exercise it works out fine when I go over the 19 g. I remember in the New Atkins, it said not to worry if you go a little over just not to go more than about 23 g in one day. My protein is set at 30% which comes to about 117 I think it was and the rest is fat g percentages.

My first goal is what they show on 5 weeks for me is 208 so my mini goal is going to be 208. Using MFP makes it easy to plan ahead and to get the right percentage ratio of protein, fat and carbs. I know there will be times when I will have a cheat meal, but I hope to make those very few. I get tired of the ACV right now so I got some White and Red Wine vinegar to sprinkle over salads and I thought I could also use it in the greens I eat.

dgramie 02-26-2015 06:27 PM

Fbs was 96 today.
Mad- I am counting calories and watching carbs and trying to eat clean for the most part.

pattygirl63 02-26-2015 07:00 PM

Dgramie Great job with the 96 fbs. You obviously have what is working for you.

Couldn't get in touch with my sister this morning which was strange. Stranger was that she didn't return my call. I decided to check on her this afternoon when I went to ride the recumbent bike and she answered with "I'm kind of down right now". When I asked what was wrong, she said "My doctor told me today that I'm diabetic". I think she felt better when we hung up. I tell you this makes me more determined to get this under control so I can help her and inspire her. He was putting her on some medication that is supposed to help her lose weight, but she couldn't remember what it was. She was waiting for him to call her to tell her what he wants her to do. I am the oldest and have to be an example for her.

I've had a pretty good day. I ate breakfast and had lunch about 6 hrs later which means that I won't be having dinner. I will have the scrambled eggs for a snack in a couple of hours before I go to bed. Wasn't AI, but was still lowcarb. I even got my 30 min on the recumbent bike. I'm pleased.

Wannabehealthy 02-26-2015 07:24 PM

Trish, I'm sorry to hear that your sister has diabetes, but with all you have learned, you can help her. She's lucky to have you.

We went out for dinner and I got the soup and salad bar. They had red wine vinegar and I put some on my salad and it was sooo good. I got a cup of chili instead of soup because I wanted the beans. Two hours post prandial is 170. I was going to take a half of a glimiperide but I decided to wait until bedtime and have the scrambled egg and see what that does. I am so glad I am no longer getting those 200s.

fatmad 02-27-2015 06:16 AM

new article, should convince you to avoid prepared foods and stick to real food!

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and...d-obesity-mice

soy lecithin is a common emulsifier.

fatmad 02-27-2015 06:33 AM

HI all:

Welcome back Shannon, and happy to hear from you.

Re the new atkins books. I don't have a problem with the information per se, but the "diet plan" uses a lot of atkins products. They have numbers of net carbs that make no sense to me, or anyone who practises atkins.
many people use the plan in DANDR (dr atkins new diet revolution) the original book. if you understand better from the new book though, thats great. Just avoid the prepared foods. bars and shakes should be emergency food (I take some with me when working. If I am stuck somewhere for long periods and the only foods around are not on plan, I will have a shake or bar) .

Trish, I am fudging with atkins and LC to some degree. I eat a carrot from time to time. Maybe what I do is more like level 2 instead of induction.
but I am making sure I really get enough fat. It makes a huge difference in satisfaction. The advantage of eating an avocado or something, is that it is such a "good" fat. and its yummy

I had blood work done yesterday, so by Monday I should have results.
blessings to everyone, and hope we all stay warm.

pattygirl63 02-27-2015 09:13 AM

Mad I have found that the Atkin bars give me diarrhea because of the sugar alcohols and I've got a few of the diet meals, but haven't found one that I like yet. I have those and the shakes for emergency meals or a quick meal without cooking. However, I have to say that I will not be buying the bars and won't be replacing the dinners either. I actually got the dinners for ideas on what to eat, but my problem is that I don't like the way they are seasoned.

I read more of the Dr. Fung materials and I am going to go back to eating 3 meals a day with no snacks. Even the New Atkins book says to eat only when you are hungry. However, they suggest not going more than 6 hrs without eating. Dr. Fung material says when you eat 6 meals that your bs is never allowed to go back down which causes our body to resist insulin more and cause us to gain weight. I thought of the Diabetic Miracle book that says wait 5 hrs. This gives our body time to bring the insulin down and stay down for a few hrs. I do like the eat within 10 hrs and fast for 14 hrs.

Carol Sue I agree with you that this fits within the guidelines of my IE/IF woe. In fact, he talked about how we could go back to eating the way our mothers and grandmothers told us to eat in the 50s and we would be fine. They taught us not to eat snacks or sweets. Well, most Mothers did, mine was a chocoholic so we did eat sweets. Strangely thing about me is I grew up not wanting sweets. I've always said that once I experienced blood sugar problems, I seemed to crave the stuff.

Any way, it makes sense to me and it is the way I ate when left alone to eat my own way, so I'm going to go for it. I remember a doctor I had years ago before I ever diabetes who asked me "Have you ever had a diet or eat when you were thin?" I told him that I did. He said "Go back to eating that way again." That is what I'm going to do. I'm just going to eat the way I did when I was "naturally" thin and never ever thought of "dieting".

Have a great day.

pattygirl63 02-27-2015 02:31 PM

I talked to my sister this morning and she sounded good. I've shared a lot of info with her and she is reading and feeling more optimistic. I'm still reading and sharing from what I read in the Dr. Fung articles. It kind of takes all I've been reading and learning recently in other books and seems to bring it all together so that I am understanding more and more. I feel like I finally have what I've been looking for. A way to eat healthy without thinking about food/diet all the time. I am tracking things on MFP for now until I get used to how I'm eating so I can make it a lifestyle rather than just another diet.

Y'all have a great weekend.

fatmad 02-27-2015 07:39 PM

Trish: LOL, if I ate the way I did when I was young and "naturally thin" I would weigh 300 pounds. I overate and had lots of sweets and candy.
I snacked constantly. I know there were times I didn't eat but I did go overboard.
For whatever reason I didn't gain then, it all changed when I started working nights. The messing with the my schedule has affected me permanently, so I have no illusions that going back is going to happen for me.
I am very interested in the research going on about gut bacteria and weight.

Shannonsnail 02-28-2015 02:05 AM

Trish I'm sorry to hear about your sister but I think it's a real blessing that she has someone so close to talk to about it. I'm sure you will be a great source of information, encouragement and inspiration for her!

Happy Friday! (well, it's Saturday now)
I stupidly drank a diet soda at dinner tonight and it's 2 am and I not even the slightest bit tired and I have already taken my melatonin!! The past two weeks with everything being cancelled, we have really gotten out of our normal sleeping schedule. We have been going to bed later and later and getting up later, it's real mess! I do much better when we get up earlier and go to bed earlier. (I am referring to Olivia and myself, there is NO helping the DH, he stays up watching TV everynight til all hours no matter what).

I'm slowly getting all my technology issues fixed. The new laptop has Windows 8 and it is totally different from whatever I had before, I am really struggling to get used to the differences. I do all our bill paying online and need to get up to speed quick bc I've got bills due in the next week! DH set up my new cell phone tonight. He claims it is "just like your old phone" but I disagree - another thing to get used to! I am GRATEFUL though!! With the phone, we were going to buy a new one (the charging port stopped working on the actual phone) but when he called to cancel our account the provider offered to overnight a new phone. I was pretty impressed with that considering I have NO CONTRACT with them! I have been with them month to month since I left my job in 2012 so I guess they are rewarding me for being a good customer :-) The iPad is still not charging right - no idea, could be the charger. I might have to buy a cheap replacement to see.

I had my weekly weigh in today and was happy to see a loss, last week I actually gained (so many cheat days that week). So, for February I lost almost 8 lbs! Yay!

I wanted to tell ya'll about my Dreamfields experiment. This new plan allows the use of Dreamfields. I had never had it bc it was strongly discouraged in my LCHF groups last year. I had been eating my homemade spaghetti sauce just by itself and I was fine with that but decided to try the Dreamfields since it was allowed. I cooked exactly one serving of the angel hair variety and had it with my meat sauce, shredded cheese and a salad with ranch. I tested at the 1 and 2 hour marks and got 130 and 110. I was very happy with that so I may continue to enjoy it - will test again the next time just to confirm. I have to cook mine separate from the other but it only takes 5 min so it's really not a big deal. I don't know if I can get DH to switch, frankly I think it tastes the same but he is like a master taster when it comes to any changes I make.

I sat down tonight to review my goals for the year and how I've been doing and I'm pretty happy so far but I did make a thorough list of things to work on in March including EARLIER BEDTIMES!! I also need to work more on meal planning. This new plan has actually helped me in that area in that I do have to have some kind of plan in order to follow the foundation of the plan - separating carbs from fats. So, I've been trying to have at least 3 meal ideas for the week and then when I make them is flexible. Also, last week I actually prepped breakfast for 3 days on Sunday night. I made these yummy breakfast burritos with eggs, bacon, cheese, salsa and low carb tortillas that you freeze and then reheat. DH actually liked those (I made his with sausage). It was kind of funny though to be scrambling a dozen eggs at one time!

I have more to say but better get myself into bed, even though I'm not tired. I'm hoping it will lull me to sleep!

Wannabehealthy 02-28-2015 10:58 AM

I have stayed low carb for 4 days now. I say low carb as I have not had any starch...bread, potatoes, rice or pasta. I know that veggies contain carbs. My blood sugar is better than it was, but still not good. Since I am trying to lower my insulin levels I have only been taking half a gm of glimiperide when absolutely needed, and yesterday I took none. My blood sugar would be lower if I took it, but it increases insulin secretion and I don't want that. I have never had my insulin levels checked so I might look into that with my doctor. I hope I don't have to go back to taking it regularly. According to DR Fung, nothing between meals and a longer IF period will lower insulin secretions, so I am trying to make this work. I have tried so many other things, and this is one I have not tried before.

The past 2 days I have had nothing between meals, except for the scrambled egg at bedtime. 2 eggs doesn't work. It has to be only 1 egg. I might even cut my breakfast back to only 1 egg. I am eating smaller portions, and noticing hunger as real hunger, not just appetite. Hunger is uncomfortable, but not life threatening. I have been having mostly 2 meals a day in 8 hours. I will add the egg at bedtime as long as it is lowering my FBG.

I have lived a life of grazing, thinking that as long as it's low carb it's OK. Now I'm learning that I should not be eating between meals at all, as any food you eat, even if it's low carb, causes an insulin response. When I was growing up, there wasn't anything to eat between meals. My mother had just enough money to buy food for our meals. Cake was a treat for someone's birthday. 5 family members, 5 birthday cakes a year. Once a month she went downtown and always brought us a treat of candy. A bag of gum drops usually, and when that was gone, that was it until next month. It wasn't until I was old enough to go out and get a job that I started to eat differently. Buying snacks whenever I wanted them, eating socially with friend without regard to hunger or mealtime. I want to go back to the way I ate when I was a kid and my mother was providing the meals.

Mad, I also believe there is something to the gut bacteria theory.

I also have heard about those who could eat whatever they wanted and it had no effect, until they got older, or had lifestyle changes such as your schedule changes, that made it catch-up with them later in life. I now believe that it WAS having an effect on their bodies, but it could not be seen in the form of weight gain. It was gradually changing their bodies over time until it got to the point that the body could no longer fight it and they gained weight.

I do eat carrots, ever since DrFurhman said that the nutritional value of carrots far outweighs the carb count. I mostly eat a combo of broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts and baby carrots, so I'm getting 3 or 4 baby carrots at a time. It's not the carrots that are hurting my weight loss. I have many more serious food issues.

Shannon, I'm glad to hear that this new plan is working for you. I think maybe DH would eat Dreamfields. He is not big on regular pasta, so the change might be to his liking.

EDIT: I just googled the nutrition info on Dreamfields angel hair. The only difference there is between that and the angel hair I buy now is 3 gm of fiber per 2 oz portion. I don't know if it would be worth it for us since we only have it about once a month. I don't doubt the blood sugar results you had. It doesn't really spike my blood sugar either, but mine is a lot higher than yours overall.

Trish, I have been tracking, too, and paying more attention to my nutrient percentages.

pattygirl63 02-28-2015 09:59 PM

Quick flyby. Staying on "my plan" eating only 3 meals a day giving my insulin time to come back down in between meals so staying away from snacks. Not going to use the nighttime egg unless I have to. Going to try this without it for now. I am back to eating with guidelines from the dummies book on lowcarbing. This is day 2 OP. Weight is starting to slowly inch down again a fraction each day on the scales and fbs is coming down too. I check before I eat breakfast and since I usually go 5 to 6 hrs between breakfast and lunch, I check before lunch and bs has been even lower before lunch. I haven't checked before dinner but will start doing that tomorrow. I'm happy with the way things are going.

Today when we had our usual Saturday pizza, I was making my salad with oil and vinegar per Magic Foods book to keep the pizza meal carb friendly. DH came in and saw the wine vinegars sitting on the island where I was working and asked me if that was the vinegar that I use with the olive oil. I told him yes and made the statement that I always make my salad with it because it helps keep my blood sugar a balanced meal. He said "I think I'll try that next time I have a salad". Shocker. Hope he will go for it and like it.

I think we are all doing good. Practice, practice and it will get better.

Wannabehealthy 03-01-2015 07:15 AM

I wanted to mention a new product I tasted in WalMart. FlatOut Flatbreads. They had spread them with a cream cheese type spread and rolled them up and sliced them for an appetizer. It was good. I looked at the package and they have a lower net carb count. They are big, oval shaped, about 12 inches long and 7 inches across and come in different flavors, such as whole grain, italian, etc. It showed a picture of using them as a pizza crust that looked interesting. I think the net carbs were about 8 or 9 and also protein around 7-9 gms. They are big enough that you could probably cut them in half and make 2 wraps with one if you wanted to. I didn't buy them because DH wouldn't eat them and I don't eat a lot of sandwich type meals, but I might buy them to make appetizers the next time I have a get-together. They were sold on a separate display near the deli. Google them.

Yesterday was not a good day for me. I did well all day until dinner. I tried a new recipe. I put some plain greek yogurt on boneless skinless chicken breasts, then a mixture of panko bread crumbs mixed with parmesan cheese and spices, and baked it in the oven. I ate it, but I didn't like the taste of the coating. I think it needed more spices. And I didn't like the texture of the chicken. Other than that I just had vegetables with butter. I didn't feel satisfied. My hunger was satisfied, but because I didn't enjoy the meal I kept craving something else. In the evening I ate some cheese crackers and sunflower seeds. Then I had my egg at bedtime but my FBS still went up, and I think that was because I didn't fast between dinner and bedtime. I know that we both enjoy our meat cooked plain, without any coatings, sauces or gravies and I should have known better than to try it. I know that eating something I really enjoy is satisfying and something I don't enjoy is not. Hunger has nothing to do with it.

Nothing else I have been reading online mentions IF for Insulin Resistance the way DR Fung does. I have requested a couple books on Insulin Resistance from the library to see if they have any other good information. After last night, I really see the difference between the fasting and not fasting.

Just looked at the calendar and realized that March has come in like a lion! I've started the new thread for March.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/diab...ml#post5137530


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