Carol Sue I was taking curcumin because it was supposed to help with the blood sugar and some other things, but I can't remember right now. Since I've learned that the CO was my problem, I just might be able to use it. May try it again in a few days. I've got busy days for the next few days so may try it again when I will have time to handle any discomfort if I have any problems.

I still may follow the ratio of carb to fat to protein, but just not as high as others do. I'm not sure. My lifestyle just seems to have to have a few days to allow for some carby foods once in a while. I'm just not sure how to work that in. If I decide not to go as strict as the lady does, I will just be honest with her that my system just cannot handle it. I'm shooting for lowering my fbs below 120 and I will do what I have to do to do that.

I do know that I can do IF 12 to 16 hr fast everyday. I've done that. I also know that I like to do 3 meals and preferably no snacks. So I might could do a 6 day low carb with the fat a little higher and allow one day for carbs. I just know I have to figure this out so I can do it so that it is something I can live with and that works for me. MFP does help with me being able to see the ratios so that I might can still the carby day, but use the ratios even on those days. I will figure it out.

Good luck with your plan.

I got way off track the past few days. I ate my weight in fingerfoods. My stomach is reminding me that I will pay the price for bad eating.
My fbs was 83 today. I skipped dinner last night because I had grazed all day long.
My goal for today is only drink water, no soft drinks. I can't believe I allowed myself to ever get hooked again.
I am going to really watch processed carbs and portions sizes today.

I have a new grand baby coming in march. All my others live out of town and we just keep them from time to time. Well #6 will live in our town and I will help keep it while mommy works. Mommy is a bouncer and walker. So it's time for this Grammie to get in shape!! My energy is at an all time low and I'm sick of it.
When my first grand baby arrived ( 6yrs ago in oct.)I was 30 lbs lighter than I am today. Time to stop beating myself up for gaining and get off the weight. I have 30 wks.

That's great news and incentive for you!!

I am so off plan. I am going back to my 1000 mg Metformin. I am also going back to Intermittent Fasting. I am going to do the 16/8 daily. The only way that will change is when I get into it again, there are days I will do 19/5 when I'm not all that hungry. I will take the Metformin with the last meal of the day.
I know there are days when I will be eating carbs, because that seems to be my lifestyle, but I will work at keeping them to a minimum. Maybe more of a modified paleo/primal diet.

DH doesn't like a lot of fat and actually now that I've been trying to eat more fat, I know that I don't like it either. I do know I like beans and greens and some fruit. Primal gives room for those minus the beans although as I was researching last night there are those who modify primal and eat some beans and grains. So there must be room to make a plan that can be modified and work for me.

I just decided today that I've tried things a lot of different ways and I need to figure out how to put them together to work for me personally. I caught myself wanting sweets yesterday and I am not going to get on that merry-go-round again. Stopping it in its tracks today. I think that shows me that I'm not being satisfied with what I'm doing and so it is time to change it.

I know I feel better when I don't eat anything until around 11 or 12. I've always been that way. I think getting up and eating right away has become a habit, not hunger. I need to listen to my hunger signals (Intuitive Eating) again like I did on my trip. I seemed to have more control on my trip than I do now. I realize that was because food wasn't available all the time like it is at home. It's kind of like the experience you had Carol Sue the day you and DH went shopping and went so long without eating. You said you didn't get hungry and didn't even think about food. We did the same thing on our trip. And when we did eat we even ate some things that were REALLY NO NOs like the caramel coffee on the way home that you would have thought would have shot our blood sugar to the moon, but it didn't hurt us. In fact, it was so sweet we couldn't drink all of it and with all the things I did eat on the that trip, I came home with a weight loss. FBS was a little high, but not as high as it could have been.

I think it was because I also made a lot of good healthy choices.

Anyway, the first step is to get back on IF/IE again and to go from there. I think my friend and I are going to a Mexican restaurant tonight because she has a coupon. It is one of my favorite places to eat that DH hates. So I have decided that I will either get tacos or taco salad. I won't eat a lot today since I know that is going to be more carby. Might even try to have only a 5 hr eating window today.

Have a good day chickies.

Congratulations!!! Great incentive. What a joy to look forward too. :)

Well girls, I may have blown that magazine article. I got a little po'd with the photo editor in an email yesterday. My 15 seconds of fame may be cancelled, lol!

Last night I spent 3.5 hours on kitchen organization and finally saw 75% of the counters cleared off and nothing on the floor. I am seriously considering tossing any unopened boxes marked kitchen, lol! I think I am going to stop opening anymore boxes til what is inside is put away.

I keep trying to get back on plan but blow it by afternoon. Eventually I will get there. I'm up to about 182 from a previous low of 176 point something. I was 178 just a few days ago so there might be some water retention in there too. Anyway, I am still, for the most part, maintaining a 30 lb loss so I'm not going to stress too much right now. There are too many other things to think about.

I think I mentioned that we are overseeing the renovation of my MIL's house. It was on the market well over a year, maybe close to two, with no bites. It is being completely gutted inside. It has past termite damage which is all being replaced plus a complete update of floors, walls, fixtures and kitchen. We have picked out appliances, fixtures, etc. and drive over at least once a day to check the progress. Yesterday they dug up a ginormous tree in the front yard with an extensive root system, going to the edges and slightly under the house. They are also clearing the back yard of overgrowth. My MIL refused any updates or repairs to the house that were not critical. She was paranoid about workers. So, this house is dated back to the 70s with all the original carpet, etc. and has a yard (with lots of trees and shrubs) that has not been maintained, other than mowing, for 20 years.

Shannon, it sounds like you MILs house is going to be a big job. I hope she's going to get enough for it to cover the cost of the renovations.

Do NOT throw away boxes marked kitchen. I will give you my address and reimburse you for shipping. LOL (just kidding)

As far as the magazine article, you should have some say-so about it! After all, it's going out to the public for all to see and read.

I have no doubt that you will get back OP. You did so well, and it is understandable that you should have a bit of a setback after all you have been through the past couple months. That's the past, this is now!

Dgramie, the same with you. Forget the bad eating day and move on. It happens to all of us. Congratulations on the new grandbaby. That gives you a goal to look forward to. We will give you encouragement to help you reach that goal!

Trish, as far as what plan you should follow, you did well with the LCHF except for the tummy issues. I think you are trying too hard to find a plan to follow 100%, and you don't have to do that. Do the LCHF on the days you are able to stick to it and don't beat yourself up on the days you don't. No one does 100%. Keep your fat level where you're most comfortable. Don't worry about keeping ratios. Just eat the best you can for you BS and your weight. Enjoy your little splurges and go on. I have found that every diet plan has something that I can't stick with. That's why I have "Carol's Plan." I am not setting any records with BS and weight, but both are improving slowly. I am going to aim for the plan I laid out in my previous post, but I know it will never be 100%. The IE is good and so is the IF. I think whatever food plan you decided on will work for you, but make it "Trish's Plan."

checking in, been awol for the past couple of weeks mostly due to my horrible internet. It seems better now - we'll see though

I'm bouncing from 180 to 177, not too worried as I seem to need to just maintain for awhile. Still walking 5 miles about six days a week and my blood sugar is good.

Always good to hear from you Donna. It sounds like you're doing great. That 5 mile walk is motivating to me. I need to get back to it badly.

Has anyone here ever watched the show The Doctors? I watch it sporatically. It's on at 12 noon and also at 10 PM in our area. One of the doctors has written a diet book. (Who hasn't?) Tomorrow, they are going to feature a diet sure to work for anyone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's his diet. This might be a repeat because his book has been out for a while. According to the description on Amazon, his diet is adaptable to different eating styles, such as meat lovers, etc. I will be watching the show to see what they have to say. I am also going to check his book out of the library. It might not be for me, but reading about different diets gives me pointers and encouragement to you in my own plan.

Just wanted to mention it in case anyone is interested.

Also, I have been trying to buy all 93% lean ground beef, as I really don't like fatty ground meat. It's been hard convincing DH. One time one of the meat cutters at the supermarket told him a fattier meat makes a better tasting burger. I disagree. When I eat out, I will only order an Angus burger. I finally got him to try one and now he likes the Angus beef. Recently when we were shopping he saw Angus hot dogs by Oscar Mayer. We bought a pkg and he's sold on them. They are more than double the price of the hot dogs we normally buy, but they do not contain any nitrates and are much tastier. I compared the nutritional info. They are the same calorie count. The Angus burgers are higher fat, but they are all beef compared to the others that are pork and chicken. They have a 1gm lower carb count and a 2gm higher protein content. So I think that's favorable. We don''t eat a lot of hotdogs, but DH eats them often for his lunch and we do have them occasionally when dinner has to be a quick one. Maybe I can get my DIL to switch to them because I read somewhere that children under 10 should not eat anything that contains nitrates. My DGS eats hot dogs, breakfast sausage and smoked sausage. I wish she wouldn't give them to him. The nitrates are said to contribute to childhood cancers.

Shannon Sorry about the article. I know you will get back OP. Sounds like you still have a lot going on with the sell of your house and your MIL's house. You are one busy lady.:hug:

Donna You are doing great. Good to hear from you.

Carol Sue Of oourse, you are right. It does upset me when I can't do 100%. I think that comes from being raised by perfectionists. :D I have no intention of doing IE per se except that I do need to think about foods that I like. I thin I read in the New Atkins book that there are certain foods that you should not decided that you cannot eat especially if they are important for you. I don't need the bread and can usually do without them. However, I do miss fruit. That is why I think I am not going to forbid them. I will just allow myself a little more carbs as I have no desire to eat only 20 or 30 carbs a day. I will continue to use some healthy fats, but not worry about having higher fat grams than the protein grams. Sometimes it just doesn't calculate. However, I am going to watch the calories.

For example, today I am doing an 16/8 IF day. I am going out for Mexican food with a friend this evening. I planned my eating to be between 2pm and 10pm. I have figured my calories etc already on MFP. My calories for today is less than 1200, net carbs will be 88, fat I think is around 58 and protein 68. I'm not going to worry about it because the calories are low.

I've been reading the IF thread here on 3fc and there is a pretty good group here. I'm learning quite a bit from what I've read so far and may end up joining the group eventually. Right now just reading.

You know, DH and I like the better cut of meats too. I like the Angus cuts and I didn't know about the Angus hot dogs. Thanks for the heads up; I will look for them. I have always loved bacon which I know has nitrates. Eating the way I have decided to eat, I won't be eating it very often any more.

Went shopping because I had to go get meds for DH. I got some zucchini and also some butternut squash. I've never eat it that I know of but decided to try something different. I got a bell pepper to make DGS and me some stuffed bell pepper. DH doesn't like it, but I do so thought I would make it like previous DH grandmother did. Cut the bell pepper in half and fill with meatloaf type meat and share it with DGS. He can take it to work the next day.

Most days will be LCMF, but allow for those days when we eat out. I think I just got upset because I thought my eating out in carby places was done for a few weeks. I go to the doctor in 2 weeks. It won't be a good thing like the last time I went. :( And I know it. But I have 2 weeks and 2 days before I go and while my A1c won't be great, maybe I can get a lb or 2 off by then. I hope.

I had a op day yesterday with 5 bottles of water. I worked in the garden pulling up tomato plants and mowing. I have 5 pepper plants left. I will leave them till frost. I enjoy having them in the freezer to throw in chilli and meatloaf and fajitas.
My goal for today. Water , no dessert at church and only half of a roll. I'm really working on cutting processed carbs. We are having fried chicken so I will not eat the skin. I may ask for extra green beans and no potato casserole. I have lost weight before and got to get my head back in the game. I think I have the same issue as Trish. I have to be 100% or I give up. I have to learn gray areas are ok.
Fbs was 96 today.

dgramie Yes, I too have to learn how to handle the gray areas. However, I also have lost weight before and we can do this. :congrat: YAY :congrat: We both had an OP day yesterday. We are on our way!!! Your FBS is great.

My FBS is coming back down and was 133 this morning. I ended up having a great IF day with an eating window of 5 hrs. My friend ended up working until almost 5 pm so it was about 5:30 before we ate. I even cooked for DH and DGS. I made shrimp scampi (my own lowcarb version). DH eats it with broccoli w/cheese and I made extra and added noodles to a serving for DGS to take to school for lunch today. AND I WAS NOT EVEN TEMPTED TO TASTE ANY OF IT!!! YAY!!! About 3 pm I finally ate some yogurt with a cup of grapes.

I couldn't find the food values on the food at the restaurant I went to. I know that I love Mexican food and don't get it very often. Didn't eat it while in TX like I usually do. So I planned ahead of time. I knew on IF that I could have what I wanted within reason. So I found the menu online and planned in advance. I ordered the cheese dip to eat with the chips and sauce that always comes with the meal. And I ordered the chicken taco salad instead of the beef taco salad that I usually would order. I could only go by Taco Bell food values and there the chicken taco salad had at least 200 calories if not more less than the beef. The only problem I found with the chicken t salad was it was too watery so I didn't eat all of it and I didn't like their taco bowl. Either it wasn't as good as it used to be or my tastes had changed. I brought 3/4 of the cheese dip and chips home for DGS to eat. Came home and just before 8 pm I ate a couple slices of sandwich meat with a slice of cheese so I could take the 1000 mg Metformin.

Today, we go to Sam's and DH said we will go to Cracker Barrel. I will be able to have the catfish (it is farm raised but with IF it will be okay. I'll have greens and maybe coleslaw and 1 corn muffin. I always drink water with lemon. I'm actually eating 2 snacks and 1 meal each day. Today may be just 1 meal and a snack.

Carol Sue You said something about using IF. I found this link that you might like reading.
http://www.theiflife.com/intermitten...-start-part-i/

He tells that there are many different ways to do IF and I noticed that to be true on the 3fc thread. I don't know if you have read their thread. I didn't purchase his book because I can read a lot online.

I told the lady on MFP that I was not going to do LCHF. Seems her DH is having the diarrhea problems with so much fat too. She did say that she often does IF along with LCHF. I told her that I was going to do more of a LCMF. However, I'm not going to make it a written in stone day to day rule. I know there are times that like today and yesterday that I am going to want to eat a little more carbs. (I guess that is the gray area dgramie was talking about.) On most days, I can do more LCMF than others. I think I have to allow myself that leeway in order to not feel like I've done a bad thing. And the weight is coming back down and hopefully I will finally get back down to that 219. I don't know if I'll get there by the time I go to see doc in 2 weeks, but I think this will give me a better chance because we know stress is a BIG enemy of diabetics. If I eliminate the stress and can relax with my plan, then that will help the bs to come down as well.

My system is something else lately... age maybe. I tried the curcumin again and sure enough had to run to the potty. Can't have that especially when out somewhere. Turmeric is in mustard so evidently the curcumin is too strong for me so I'll just have to get mine from mustard or adding a little bit of turmeric as seasoning.

Guess I rambled enough. Again, wordy today.

Shannon, Donna and others:wave:

Have a great day Chickies.:)

I got the Doctor's Diet book from the library and started reading it yesterday. It's interesting. He includes all food groups as I expected, but in the weight loss stage there are no potatoes, pasta, or rice. You are permitted 1 grain selection per day, choosing from 1 sl of wheat bread, 1/2 C of Oatmeal 1/2 C of sweet potatoes or 1 C cold whole grain cereal. That is not very much carb. The portions of everything are smaller than most people eat on the standard American diet. He tells you to get rid of the sugar totally. He says that sat fat is not bad, but monounsatured or polyunsaturated is better, but fats are still limited. There's an extensive list of fruits and vegetables permitted. Nothing is unlimited, however. He says that even if you're eating healthy choices, you will gain if you take in more calories than you are burning. That's a big part of my problem. He explains what each food group does for you body and why they are necessary. I think it's based on 1400 calories for women. He doesn't take the one-size-does-not-fit all theory which we have found to be true. I guess you could tweak the calories to your own level. No weird unusual foods. He says at times they come out and say that a certain food is bad for you, so it's better to not eat any one food excessively so as not to over do it on something that turns out to be harmful. While I am glad I got to read the book, I wouldn't recommend going out and buying it. If you can get it from the library or borrow from someone, it's a good read.

Dgramie, I always have gray areas and I will say that my weight loss is extremely slow. If I did 100% I know it would be better, but I just don't think I'm programed to do 100%. DH's attitude is he wants to enjoy what he eats for whatever time he has left on this earth. I somewhat agree with that, but he doesn't have a weight problem or diabetes, and I do, and should be a little more stringent.

Trish, my husband didn't like stuffed peppers until I started making them with red and yellow peppers instead of green. They are a little sweeter and have a better taste. I don't know if it's the pepper or the filling that your DH doesn't like. I know some people only eat the filling because they don't like the peppers. We like stuffed cabbage a lot better, but that is a lot more work and time consuming.

Trish, we must be eating the same thing! LOL I checked my tracking for the past several days and I am averaging carb grams in the 80s, fat in the high 50s and protein in the high 60s.

I rarely buy bacon, but recently I was talking to someone on another thread, saying that I miss eating a BLT now that my tomatoes are ripening so fast, and she said she makes a BLT salad...lettuce with chopped tomatoes and bacon, so I might buy some bacon and try that. I can't eat straight bacon because it is too salty for me.

Carol sue I make BLT salads. I love them!!

Carol Sue Thanks for sharing from Diet Doctor's book. I guess he believes in eating more variety of foods than most lowcarb diets allow. I think he must be more Primal with a few carbs. I like the idea of allowing 1 grain a day although I would tweak and allow myself corn and maybe the sweet potato on occasion. Perhaps a couple of days a week. Today, I plan to have the corn muffin. I think eating IF will make it doable for me. With his plan tweaked, I would not need gray areas to worry about, as it would just be part of my plan. I'm not a 100% person either so I guess that is why I need a more flexible plan.

As for the peppers, Dear Mr. Picky eater isn't willing to try any color pepper and he doesn't like meatloaf either so he won't even eat the stuffing. It is a mind thing. DH #2 who would eat almost anything didn't like bell peppers either, but he would scoop out the filling and eat it and give me the pepper. he didn't like cucumbers but loved pickles and he always told me "Don't ever buy zucchini because you won't like it. It tastes awful". When he died, I bought a zucchini and cooked it. I stood in the middle of my kitchen and said, "Well Bill, you were wrong, I love zucchini". LOL My 1st husband would eat anything. I've never made stuffed cabbage. I don't really know how to do that. I will have to google it to see how. Might be another healthy thing DH may not like, but I could probably make it for DGS to take to school for lunch.

I think since I'm trying to keep from becoming bored with the food I eat or getting in a rut, I will try making DGS and me stuffed ones with the other colors of peppers sometime. Thanks for the heads up on that. As for DH, he does love a BLT once in a while and I will put that on the menu for him in the future and make mine as a salad. I think that would work beautifully.

I wanted to get an egg plant to cook for my dinner sometime, but they are so big. I want to pan fry them in some olive oil, but I don't know how long they will last in the fridge cooked or uncooked and don't know if I would like them after freezing.

Trish, I don't think the DR Diet is Primal. I thought Primal was a lot of meat.

I had typed a big paragraph about the Dr Diet and then I found a site online that gives all the information if you want to read it.!!

http://www.chewfo.com/diets/the-doct...oods-to-avoid/

I am going to stay on my current plan because I want to continue to eat a late breakfast/lunch and then dinner. But I am going to try to eat the portions he suggests instead of what I'm used to eating.

I bought a small eggplant and grilled slices on my grill pan. I just started eating it recently. DH won't eat it.

Guess I'll have to buy some bacon for BLT salads since you and Dgramie gave it the thumbs up!

My ticker is finally true again, but my fbs is up again today, however, I know what I did so at least I know NOT to do that again. I can eat fruit in the morning or 1st part of my 8 hr eating window, but not at the end. So fbs was back up to 145. I'll get that back down.

Carol Sue The website you gave was Doctor's diet, but the Swedish doctor's site is dietdoctor.com. It is a different. But it got me searching some more on lowcarb dieting and I found this site called the Dr. Chase Diet. I thought you might be interested. I printed out the foods he allows which isn't really paleo/primal either because it allows more carbs although he does say the more carbs you eat the slower you will lose. However, the thing I liked about his site is that he shows 3 body types and how many carbs, protein and fat you should be eating. I am the Endomorph body type. I used his formula for eating for normal body weight. Had to have Tony help me because I'm not at working with grams and kg. Carbs for my normal size should be between 30 to 59 g. My protein should be between 50 -56 g and Fat around 84 to 100g. He said for weight loss everyone should keep their ranges Protein between 60 to 100 g, fats 120 to 200 g and carbs at 30 g for the 1st month or 2 until your body starts burning fat.

http://www.drchasewebber.com/diet-nutrition/lchf-diet

So I'm trying to figure that out on MFP, but still don't have it right. Right now I've got mine set on there at carb g 53, protein 88 g, and fat 95 g. But then I guess it is hard enough. It is difficult to get them right because MFP goes by percentages evidently rounded off.

I'm still going to do the IF and combine it with the LCHF. It does help with the fbs and hopefully my body will catch up and adjust to it. I can live without potatoes, bread, pasta and rice on a daily basis and of course sweets. After a while I won't even miss the bread. I do like veggies and I notice that while some LCHF do not recommend eating fruit, some do say use fruits to satisfy the sweet taste. I do plan to have some kind of grain at lunch like beans or corn just count the carbs. My second meal will be more of a protein salad. Today is going to be egg salad.

Still alive over here just bogged down in the daily ins and outs of unpacking/organizing while also dealing with the old house. Going this afternoon to drop off more paint and get a key to the realtor. We have to replace carpet and counter tops there so dealing with that too. Sigh..... House goes on market Sept 11 and we go on vacation Sept 14.....can't wait to finally be done in the old house and leave the selling to God! Still not on plan....some meals are, most are not....someday....lol! Here in the new house I attended preschool orientation and it seems ok enough, it's hard getting used to a smaller community sometimes but I remind myself regularly that I grew up with simple and turned out fine, lol. Then yesterday I went to the local MOPS meeting. Being a smaller community, it's a small group, around 50 moms (versus 150+ at my last MOPS), they seem nice so hopefully I will make some friends. We still need to start checking out churches.

Trish, the Doctor's Diet I was referencing was the book I'm reading, by Dr Travis Stork from the Doctor's TV show. The more I read that book the more optomistic I feel about my own weight loss. He thinks like me. I bookmarked the site you posted and will check it out later. Thanks!

My weight was up yesterday but back down today. This is why I don't weigh every day. The fluctuations annoy me and give me false information. I know that numbers don't lie, but a higher weight does not necessarily mean you ate too much. There are so many things that cause these fluctuations. My highs are getting lower and my lows are getting lower. That's all I care about. My BS was better today. I finally bought the Bragg Vinegar. I started drinking it in my water yesterday. DH came to bed last night and said "What were you doing in the kitchen? It smells like you ate a salad." LOL I think I spilled a "little" vinegar on the counter!

Shannon, it sounds like things are working out fine for you. You will make new friends and eventually get used to the smaller community. I think you made a good move. Hopefully your old house will sell quickly.

I wouldn't worry about being OP right now. Halfway is better than nothing. You'll be fine!

Carol Sue I'm having trouble with too much fat. I ordered the Doctor's Diet book. I would like to read why we should eat from all the food groups. I noticed from what I read online even interview he did with Prevention that you should start by making small changes and he says it r.eally isn't a diet. I also read about it on WebMD and he stresses eating more veggies and fruits than the usual 5 servings a day. Any way, I think I can learn from him and perhaps tweak my plan so that I don't have such drastic reactions to the LCHF. Maybe I will learn how to eat more balanced.

I am continuing with lowcarb dieting until I get the book and then make any adjustments I might feel I need to make after reading the book. While I feel sure more fat has its place, I just don't think I can eat high fat the way LCHF diets recommend. So I look forward to seeing what he has to say. And perhaps it will be something DH and I can do together.

I am impressed with what you shared about how he has us eat smaller portions. When I was doing Weight Watchers, I ate smaller portions than they recommended and I was told by someone that you had to eat the whole portion size. I always did better when I did it on my own and lost weight as long as I did it my way. Strange, huh?

Trish, I hope you like this diet. I thought about you when he mentioned eating fruit. There are carbs, but not a lot of them and I think the small portions would be good for a diabetic. I am glad I found that website I posted because I will be able to refer back to that after I have to return the book to the library. I can go online and renew it up to 4 times. I still haven't finished it, but I keep reading parts of it over and over. He says not to be afraid of fat because the body needs it, but he does not promote high fat. I am on the fence about fat. I do not eat low fat, but I don't go out of my way to add extra fat. I think anyone could do this diet. It seems to me that it's just normal food.

When I went to WW they stressed eating all your points, but there were other members who said they did not eat all their points every day, and some days ate more. I am trying to cut back a bit on calories by reducing my portions. We went out today and I had a hamburger with lettuce and tomato without the bun and a cup of vegetables soup. I will always do my own plan, but I'm taking pointers from Dr Stork's diet.

Carol Sue I went back to the site you shared and like it better than the other sites I found of his. So I deleted the other one I had found and bookmarked the one you shared. I think what I'm going to like about his book is that he allows the grains like beans and I assume that means I can have my corn too. I think I read where he said eat the carbs earlier in the day. So yesterday I decided to make a steak, corn and broccoli for our main meal and I had grapes for dessert. Then about 7ish, I had scrambled eggs with chunks of butternut squash, a little bit of shredded cheddar cheese and pepper/onion blend and added a splash of HWC. I used butter on my lunchtime veggies and I cooked my scrambled egg mixture in a little bit of Olive Oil and I took a whole Metformin 1000 mg. I was completely satisfied and ate in a 5 hr window.

My weight this morning is down another lb to 220, but not going to change the ticker just yet. Monday is my WI day and since the scale bounced between 219.8 and 220, I just might be down to the weight I was when I got back from my trip. My FBS was 120 this morning. So things are working. I think the Doctor's Diet will probably help me tweak this so that I can live with this. I also like idea that he says lowfat not necessarily high fat. I'm not going to worry about things like eating only 7 eggs a week or adding or not eating fat, because I don't really think that is necessary. And you are right, I like the fruit allowed. I think DH and I used to watch The Doctors tv show, but don't remember what station it was on. I don't think we get that network any more.

I will follow his idea of using berries and grapefruit instead of the sweeter fruits. I do love strawberries which are always plentiful in this part of the country and I also love grapefruit. Can't remember the other fruit he recommended right now.

I feel like I'm finally getting somewhere with all this. I have bloodwork next Thursday and have my A1c the Wednesday after that. But I know it isn't going to be great because of my screwing around with all this since I got back home from the trip. However, I do have a plan that will give me much better results in November. I'm not sure I will tell him what I'm doing until he can see the good bloodwork then.

Going to beauty shop this afternoon instead of tomorrow. Beautician is going out of town this weekend. It will be nice not to have to go anywhere Saturday for a change. I will be doing my shopping tonight with all the people getting off work this evening instead of tomorrow when they are busy with kids or watching games etc. :dizzy: But will be a nice change.

Trish, the first phase is stricter than the second phase, and then you alternate back and forth between the two phases. Remember, you are allowed to have the carby vegetables, such as corn, peas, squash, etc, but only once a day and only 1/2 cup. My personal opinion is if you're calories are low enough, I think you should be able to have them twice a day. Each person is different, and if it doesn't raise your blood sugar or weight, go for it. In the first phase the fruits are apple, grapefruit and berries. In the second phase there is a larger selection of fruits, but quantities are still limited. I don't usually eat fruit, but grapefruit is a favorite, so since I am stopping my statin, I'm going to start buying the little single serve cups of grapefruit. You are allowed a whole grapefruit!

The beans are allowed from day one I believe, but they are a protein choice, so if you have them, that's your only protein choice for that meal. He does say that you can have 2 protein choices at a meal if you take the protein from another meal. That was mentioned for people who like a bigger breakfast and a smaller lunch or dinner.

In the book, I get the impression that veggies are unlimited, because for each meals it says "2 or more" veggies. When you get the book, tell me what you think about this.

I also get the impression that white bread, pasta, rice, or sweets are never added back to this plan, but he does state that no one is perfect and if you stray, don't beat yourself up.

I was really surprised that I found that website. It's not the Doctor's website, but someone else posted the whole diet program, which makes it convenient for us, but really makes it unnecessary to purchase the book. I might print it out, because it's possible that it will be taken down eventually.

Good morning girls!

Yesterday was an awful day!! We went to our old house and discovered the painter we hired did a horrible job, got paint all over the trim and carpet (which we fortunately had already agreed we should replace to help with the sell) and made such a mess of things we are now going to have to hire someone to essentially repaint the entire house. We are sick!!! This character is also refusing to return our key so now we will have to pay to change the locks. SICK!!! Another house in our neighborhood just went on the market priced about $10K less than what we are planning to list ours at but ours has a few features the other doesn't so I think it's alright but I'm now starting to get very anxious about the house actually selling - I had not let myself think too much about that before since so many other things needed to happen first but I guess this is where prayer takes over and worry has to surrender.

I have been doing some reading and I think when I get back on plan I'm going to go backwards and start over with giving up wheat and sugar....not necessarily try to eat "low carb" or "high fat". I still believe that those two are the biggest issue with weight and insulin issues so I think I'm going to focus on them and not worry as much about other stuff. I've lost almost half of what I want to lose so the rest may come off slower with not giving up as much of the fruit, etc. but I think it will help me to get back on plan, not being as restrictive. I also need to get back to testing with making those changes and if something I am allowing is causing spikes then that has to be considered as well. I will, however, continue with my coffee the way I had been making it because I love it like that.

And for some good news, the magazine article is finally "a wrap" - I am done with answering questions and submitting photos. It got dicey there for a bit because they were wanting pictures and our camera has not surfaced yet in the unpacking but I was able to get them something that was not quite what they wanted but good enough so I think I'm finally done dealing with it. The article is supposed to run in All You for November. I will let you know if that changes!

Shannon- so sorry to hear about the painting job. I would be sivk over it.

I really need to read some of the websites on different diets. I have a hard time finding time for Bible reading sure can't find time for other reading. Reading is my favorite thing to do for relaxing. I did finish up knitting a dish rag. Got another one started. I need to get busy if I'm using them as Christmas presents.

Food has been great the past few days. I am sleeping better but scales are not moving yet. Fbs was 100 today.

Shannon So sorry you have bad experience with the painter. Mother of deceased hubby #2 and her sister had the same problem with a painter years ago. DH walked in and asked them who painted the woodwork which was all that had to painted as the rest of the house was paneled. The painter had used water base paint over semi-gloss and ruined it. I think they ended up having to get someone else do it all over. I'm looking forward to the magazine article. I don't usually by too many mags, but surely will purchase one that you are in. I surely do wish I could drink one cup of coffee like you do, but my body says no, no, no, no. :?:

Carol Sue I thought about printing that myself so I would have it as kind of a guideline while waiting for the book. Also can take it and read at the beauty shop this afternoon if my beautician isn't talkative. We are good friends and sometimes she plans for me to be there without any other customers so we can visit. :dizzy: But it would be good to have it until the book gets here. It may not be here for over a week. It must be popular because Amazon had a note on it that it may take 2 extra days for it to ship. Apples, that was the other fruit. Apples are so good for you too. Thanks for reminding me. Actually, I am eating my carby vegetable at 1st meal of the day. I didn't realize squash was considered a carby veggie. I had it last night and didn't stop me from losing or my fbs from going down. Maybe it is eating within the 5 to 8 hr window on IF. All that is where the book will come in handy. But I am trying to eat at least 1200 calories a day and I am having to struggle some times to reach it. I seem to have to add the carby veggie I eat and the little fat I add like butter and EVOO to reach it each day. Thanks for the reminders though. It will be fun to explore this way of eating with you. :)

I've got a pork chop in the oven which I will have corn on the cob and asparagus with for lunch. Staying OP is so much easier this way. I am eating earlier because I'm going to beauty shop at 3 which is when I usually start eating. So today will be more of an 8 hr eating window. Another thing I love about IF is the flexibility.

Later.

Dgramie, I can understand giving Bible reading top priority! Believe it or not, I lost weight a lot better when I just cut back on quantities and junk food, before I started reading about different diet plans. The information started to run together. I would start the day on one plan and finish up on another. That doesn't work. You will do this. Slow and steady wins the race. You are eating well and keeping your blood sugar in line. That's a big start.

Shannon, I am so sorry to hear about the painting fiasco. This guy should be ashamed of himself. And keeping your key? It's sad to pay to change the locks, because the buyer will probably do that also. I will keep you in my prayers, that the house sells quickly.

I am really having a problem getting my calories up even to 1100 today. Have my plan for today and can only get it to 1088. :?: I guess as I'm satisfied that is all that counts. My doctor did give me permission NOT to eat when I'm not hungry.:D

Honestly, Trish, if he had said NO would you stuff yourself because he said so? No one decides how much or what I eat except me.

I just made hummus. Flavored one with roasted red peppers and the other with grilled eggplant. Yum, yum, yum. This will be my snack protein with my celery sticks.

Carol Sue No, I wouldn't have any desire to stuff myself if the doc had said I had too. I have enough of those telling me I have to eat when I'm not hungry.

Good Morning Chickies,

I was so tired when I got home last night, I just had an Atkins dinner, the Chili Con Corne and had cashews for dessert. Boy did it hit my system early this morning. I'll have to remember not to eat both within the same meal. Although Atkins does use a lot of spices and they may mess with my tummy that just isn't use to that stuff. Any way the pay off was good when it comes to my weight. I am down another 1.4 lbs to 218.6 this morning. If I can keep this, it means I've finally lost 20 lbs since Christmas and I weigh less than I did when I came home from my trip in June. My fbs was up to 127 :?: not sure why. Maybe because I had an 8 hr eating window instead of a 5 hr., but it is still better than being up in the 130s and 140s. So I'm not complaining. Some of the reaction could also be going back to 1000 mg of Metformin. I'm taking the whole thing at night. Maybe I should divide it again and take it 12 hrs apart. I might try that.

Today will be a lowcarb day for me. Wings and zucchini or eggplant. I finally found a smaller eggplant at Walmart last night so grabbed it.

Lazy day today I hope. My big mini-blind in my front window broke when I opened it yesterday. DH may want to go get another one, but I'm going to try to talk him into going tomorrow after church or even Monday. I kind of like having a lazy day once in a while. I say lazy, but of course I will be cooking. I got the Angus beef franks that Carol Sue for us to eat on the Monday for the holiday.

Trish, I hope you like the Angus Beef Franks. They cost a little more, but it's not like I'm buying enough for a big family, just the two of us, and I like the fact that we're eliminating the nitrates in them. We still have some of the other ones in the freezer but we will use them eventually.

There are a lot of reasons why you should not force yourself to eat more calories. As we age, our metabolism slows down a bit and we don't need as many calories. If you're not hungry, you're fine. Also, using an online food tracker can sometimes be wrong. You may be underestimating your portions or not including hidden calories. I think you're better off erring on the low side. I could learn from you. I struggle to stay at 1200 or below.

I have taken the tumeric 3 days now and I am not having any issues so far. I'm thinking that you have sensitivities. Not many things effect my tummy like the fats and spices effect you. My mother always said I had an iron stomach and could eat everything and anything. That could be part of my weight problem. LOL

I have also been drinking the water with the Bragg Vinegar. I don't notice any drop in my BS. In fact, I've had some higher readings. I bought a small bottle, so if I don't see any improvement eventually I won't buy it anymore. Maybe it just doesn't work for me.

Enjoy your day. It will be a busy one for me because I've been having lazy days all week!

Carol Sue I never had any issues with foods in the past. However, I just realized that they really started with the sugar alcohols in the Atkins bars and when I tried the coffee with all that fat. Last night I had an Atkins dinner. I'm beginning to think maybe there are things in the Atkins foods that I cannot handle. So far I haven't had any problems with the shakes, but I don't have them very often either. Also I did chew some diet gum last night which I've been staying away from too.

I'm thinking maybe I cannot eat any kind of foods called/marked/considered diet foods any more especially if processed. Although, I have had some WW Smart Ones dinners with no problems. So just may have to stick to more home cooked foods and stay away from any processed foods.

I agree about the need for so much food at our ages. I remember thinking when I was younger and had a SIL who usually ate a candy bar in the afternoon and then a meal in the evening. I had always heard that as we age we need less food. I used to wonder what was going to happen to her when she gets to the age where she had to cut back. Where would she cut back. Haven't seen her since she and my BIL divorced. But I often wonder about her. I have places to cut back, she doesn't.

Actually, I've decided not to tell my doctor what I'm doing this time. If I mention IF, he will say I need to eat and I've decided that I'm just not going to eat when I'm not hungry. I remember years ago dreaming of people making me eat when I wasn't hungry and how miserable I felt. I've already lived that dream and I'm not doing it any more. Actually, I think my dieting and insisting on my DH eat more "healthy" just may be why he has a belly now. I especially thought that after reading Dr. Chase's website and seeing the different body types. When we married, he ate what he wanted although he would eat the food I cooked. I age pretty much the way I wanted and he ate the way he had always ate. We both were thin. It is when we started following whatever diet I read was healthy that I gained weight and he gained belly fat.

Neither one of us ate breakfast, but I loved fruit. Almost was a fruitatarian if there is such a thing. He loved soup and ate it often. I didn't so I ate a lot of tuna salads which was my favorite. He had a big bag of potato chips that he would eat a few bites out of each day, but I never touched them because I knew I could not eat just one. We ate whatever we were in the mood for... Chinese food, hamburgers, subways, and even fried/broasted chicken on occasion. We usually shared the Chinese food. And I made desserts on special occasions. I did not gain weight and he had a flat tummy.

I had not reached my goal so I started looking online for support diet groups and they would tell me I couldn't eat certain foods on whatever diet I was on. And of course, I started eating breakfast again because that is the most important meal of the day and changing the way and what we ate and I got fat and he got a belly. Sad thing is that it didn't take long to put back on almost all the weight I had gained. Should tell me something shouldn't it?

Now I'm pretty much eating 2 meals a day again and eating pretty much what we like and want within reason and the weight is coming down and so is the fbs. In fact, the Doctor's diet may end up being almost like the way I ate when I married DH with just a few variations. Like I said once before, I don't worry about eating whole eggs when I eat them. I looked on Amazon and the book is actually on its way and already in Knoxville. Still scheduled to be here by Thursday, but it just might get here sooner.

Well, I'm wordy again. So I'll close.

Have a good day everyone.

Trish, when it comes to IF, I think your doctor hears the word "fasting" and thinks of those people who go days without any food. I know there are some IF plans where you only eat 500 cals on some days, but otherwise, it is just not eating from dinner until breakfast the next day. To me, that is how we were intended to eat. Even if you don't eat breakfast when you first get up, and even if it's not traditional breakfast food, the first meal you eat for the day is "break fast." Natually thin people have eaten that way for years. When my doctor asked me how I improved my labs I just told him I changed my diet. He didn't ask how and I didn't elaborate. He was just happy to see the changes however I did it.

When my DH goes to the doctor I go in with him because he doesn't pay attention. The doctor asked me why DH doesn't come in with me for my appointments and I told him "I don't want him telling you things I don't want you to know!" He just laughed.

Here are some neat ideas! Not necessarily low carb of diabetes friendly.


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Had a little bit more carbs, but still under 1400 calories that I allow myself. I had 2 fruits and also had veggies as he Doctors diet suggests. Will see how it affects fbs and weight tomorrow.

Spent another day at the old house. My dog has been sick since I got him groomed Monday so we made a trip to his vet. They think it's bronchitis and not his heart disease or cancer thankfully. After that we went to the house to pick up old paint, chemicals, etc to take to the dump since it is only open for that type of waste on Saturdays. Got the last few remaining items from the attic and garage. Took alot of bigger unwanted items to dump that had been in backyard and garage. Everything is finally out now.

We took a closer look at the paint fiasco. Looks like poorly repaired nail holes, paint put on with rollers that were being reused from color to color and/or from cans not mixed well (old paint being touched up) which left a chalky looking shiny residue when painted over the (not) repaired nail holes. Then the two rooms that were being freshly painted (not touch ups, supplied brand new paint) have paint drips on the carpet (splatters as well marks that look like paint cans with paint on bottom were sat down on it), terrible quality of painting on wall (including one room looking "dirty", I suspect he used a roller that had a different color on it first), paint drips all over trim and paint all over faceplates and fan remotes. Some rooms have different color paint splatters on the walls so I'm sure he reused rollers and brushes from color to color. I have painted about 10 rooms across two homes in my time and truly I can say that this person was incredibly unprofessional in his workmanship, my paint jobs were far superior and I'm not trained or anything. Very very disappointed. We have gotten some quotes and are looking at $2500 to repaint house on top of $1600 in new carpet and $2000 in new countertops. We do not live in a market where "as is" sells well. We did not really plan on all this. We expected the countertops and thought maybe on the carpet but were hoping to not change it. We certainly weren't planning on a complete repaint. Sigh.... What a mess!

I will quit talking about all that now but just needed to rant a little more. At the new house I'm working on organizing the hall closet by my daughter's room which is really big and where a lot of misc stuff will be stored. I need to pick up some clear plastic bins with lids that can stack. I have a bazillion baskets and bins but none that work well in that closet....go figure! I still have kitchen boxes to unpack but I'm holding off because right now everything in there that is unpacked is organized and I don't want to add clutter.

I haven't unpacked Olivia's books yet because I need to find a bookcase for them. What I had in the old house has a new purpose in the new house. Oh blah blah blah, ya'll probably don't want to hear all this...LOL! I just have nothing diet to say....we are eating out a ton still!

Carol Sue Thanks for the website. I saw 2 recipes I liked the pot pie and the white bean salad. Saw another one, but not sure about it.

Shannon The painter you had does not sound like a professional. So sorry about the mess and extra money you are having to spend. Glad you got everything out and hope your experience with the other people you have to deal with on the old house are better. Prayers coming your way.

Last day of August my weight stayed at 218.6 again today and my fbs was down 2 pts to 125. I had some sugar yesterday in the bbq sauce I made bbq beans with and contrary to the rules of Doctors Diet, I had them with my wings, however, I didn't add any sauce to the wings. I BBQ the guys wings, but I like mine just plain. So considering that blip, I guess things aren't too bad. I did stick to eating only in a 5 hr window. Not sure about today. Since we eat earlier on Sunday and DH and I have to go get a blind to replace broken one for the front living room window, we will eat out somewhere around noon. So may end up with an 8 hr eating window today.
But that is how we are learning to make our plan work for us personally so that we don't screw things up long term knowing that we will have days that will be the norm. I consider 5 hr window my normal way of eating and days that are a little different are usually 8 hrs. I do plan to be careful today though as tomorrow is WI day when I will change my ticker.

Have a Super Sunday.

I am back down to 194 this morning.

Trish, I allow for an 8 hr eating window, but sometimes it's less, sometimes more. I do try not to eat anything after dinner, around 5PM and go as long as I can for my first meal of the day. Yesterday DH was going to the car cruise so I had to make something fast. I made some sauce and cooked frozen meat ravioli. I ate 3 of them and had 3 meatballs with it to add more protein. It was more carbs than my plan, but I still lost weight, probably because my total calories were down. I must not have had enough dinner, because I was really hungry at bedtime, so I cooked a scrambled egg. I lost weight in spite of it, but BS was 132, even though the egg was protein. I can't eat ANYTHING before bed without raisinig BS.

When I eat baked/barbeque beans, I rinse the sauce off. They still retain the flavor of the sauce they are cooked in, but it removes a lot of the sugary sauce.

Shannon, it's too bad you can't go back and recoup from the painter. Maybe you should have agreed to half up front and the other half after inspection. I would definately report him to the Better Business Bureau. Most people want a house to be in move-in condition. Some will buy a house for a lower price so they can choose carpet, paint colors, counter tops as long as no major repair work is needed. It's all in finding the right buyer. I hope it sells quickly for you.