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I work half time right now, so I usually keep myself busy from the cupboard where I stock different kind of nuts during the day. But after dinner I get crazy, I try to follow the rules of low carbing, but I've been "healthy" eater all my life, and the idea of putting so much fat in me feels weird. I did try that for a while though but got stomach pains and had to stop. Can no longer eat eggs as well :) More about my D: Yes, I am on insulin regimen, 2 basal injections and 3 or more for my meals. If I do everything right, I have great and stable numbers, but binging low carb at night postpones everything and I get very high at night (my high is everything above 140, I panic if I see 153 on glucometer :) ). Because my body is very adjusted to LC, I need to bolus for proteins as well and they behave very differently. I am very carb sensitive, if I cheat with a piece of cake which is above 20 gr of carbs (I usually aim for less than 10 a meal (only 3 meals a day, no snacking) ) with A LOT of insulin (like my day dosage at once) I retain water like crazy the next couple of days. And BG gets very jumpy. So cheating sets me back. I tried using logs, special D apps but I found it very stressful. I found it became my full time job. Together with BG testing (I test like 8-10 times a day) it was just never ending story :(... I am reading "Brain over binge" book right now (there is a discussion about it in the Chick in Control), I am hoping that 2 time is a charm and it will work for me. I don't like how my brain got in destruction mode right now, but it is really in the state as author puts it - I am dieting, my animal brain in survival mode and keeps re-assuring me that I do need to stock up, because this crazy lady keeps putting it into starvation mode all the time. The scary part in all this is that sometimes during my binges I think that I always have a last option - stop using insulin for a while (body gets into ketoacidos, you basically starve all your cells because they don't get the glucose, cause without insulin they do not function, hence loosing weight), the disorder called diabuimia. But it is a very dark road, I don't want to slide into this, but I do want my body back. Injected insulin doesn't make you fat per se as long as you have good control and don't overeat, but if you get your numbers wrong (high above normal targets) and need to correct, it usually goes straight to fat :) |
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Thanks for explaining how insulin injects cause weight gain. I went to a diet doctor once who had me eating loads of carbs of bread and grains. I left his office 2 weeks later in tears because he accused me of not following his diet and cheating. I had followed it to the letter with absolutely no cheats. He chewed me out telling me that someday I would be a diabetic on insulin and unable to lose weight. Of course, we didn't know back then that some of us cannot handle all those grainy carbs because instead of correcting blood levels it causes it to go higher. If I had continued going to him, I would have been diabetic long before I was. At the time, I was hypoglycemic and the popular thought back then was according to my then MIL who worked for a diet doctor that "if you were hypoglycemic that you would never have to worry about being diabetic". Of course, now we know better. |
Well, I know there is a happy place where I can have carbs, but not too many and I sure haven't found that place yet. I tried using Atkins shakes yesterday and eat only one balanced meal. WRONG!!! I did so much exercise yesterday, I ended up doing 45 minutes on the recumbent bike, besides the other ones I do. So by 8 o'clock when I drank the last shake, it wasn't enough so grabbing something quick I ate a cheese sandwich even thought I knew not to eat bread that late at night especially when I knew I had to go to bed early. May take a break from the bike today and do it again Friday and Saturday. I can do the weights and resistence with the stretch belt.
I got up early to meet with neighbor at 8 am for coffee, so all numbers were at least an hour early than usual and cut my sleep by 1 hour as well. So while I know that was part of the problem, I wasn't happy with fbs being up to 140 g. Even bp was higher than usual (for m e). It is seldom high just higher than My normal. The one good thing was that my weight was the same. No loss, but no gain. Have a good one everybody. |
Sanssucre, you seem to have a good handle on your diabetes and insulin regimen. There was a woman at work who was not at all overweight, but all of a sudden she lost a lot of weight and started to look anorexic. I was concerned about her, but she said "Oh, it's just my diabetes." She said when she started working there her doctor put her on long lasting insulin so she wouldn't have to inject at work and it wasn't working. At the time, I didn't know what she meant, and I'm not even sure that was the truth, because I have heard of people stopping their insulin to help with weight loss.
I got myself in trouble a while back, eating too many carbs, out of control, and my BS went over 200, even into the 300's and would not come down. Since I was only on Metformin I had nothing to bring it down. Finally I got an additional med from my doctor and that brought it down and now I'm trying to control it with diet and exercise instead of taking the med. I don't particularly like sweets, so I don't have a problem there, but bread is my public enemy number 1, and pasta is #2. One bite and I lose total control. Trish, There is a place where I can eat carbs, but it has to be a very small amount....and I can't seem to stick to that small amount without eating more than I should. So I'm better off to just stay away from it altogether. My refrigerator hasn't been making any noise all day so I'm wondering if it was doing that because I had the freezer too full. Yesterday I used up all the ground beef I had in there and a lot of the veggies for lunch and dinner. I will have to wait til tomorrow to check for ice under the freezer. It takes a couple days to build up after we clean it out. I don't really want to be spending money on repairs. Trish, years ago I went to a doctor and told him I was having trouble losing weight and wanted to get checked. He said first we will see if you really have trouble losing weight, and he gave me a diet. I knew right away I was not going to lose weight when I saw all the food on the diet. I went back in a month, and on my scale it said I had lost 2 lbs. He took me into a different room and put me on a different scale from the first one and lo and behold, I was down 8 lbs. I wanted to tell him to take me in on the same scale he weighed me on the first time, but I was a shy young girl then and didn't want to make waves. He sent me on my way telling me I CAN lose weight if I stick to the diet. I never went back to him. |
Sanssucre welcome! we are glad to have you join us here on our chat thread. I have heard of diabulimia before, particularly in young girls with type 1.
Girls, I need help. I am really struggling. I am wondering on your opinions since I know some of you have followed Atkins. As you know I was not counting anything, not following any specific plan, etc. and had just eliminated specific high carb foods. I was doing REALLY well for several weeks. I had NO cravings and was not even really interested if breads, candy, etc. were around. I was NOT hungry except for just a few times where I knew I had not eaten enough. Now, I am having cravings, unable to ignore breads, candies, etc. HUNGRY and of course eating junk and gaining. Do you think that I was in ketosis before and that is why I was not having any issues? I have been trying to figure out why I cannot snap out of this. Ever since that party where I ate all the sugary junk to see how it would affect my BS I have not been able to get back 100% on plan. Everyday at some point I just go crazy. Before that weekend I had the two meals back to back out of town that had alot of carbs but thinking back, after that I got back on plan for almost a week before that party. Ever since the party I cannot string more than one day to another where I stay on my plan. I feel like a demon left and now it's back. I have not been checking my BS because I know it is bad. |
Shannon, I recommend that you test your BS, even though you know it's bad. You have to know, and that might help snap you out of this. Easter did that to me, and it took me a long time to get back off those carbs. It's possible that you were in ketosis. I can't really give you advice because it happens to all of us at one time or another. You just have to make up your mind that you want to get back on plan. Hiding from your BS is not going to solve the problem. It has to come from within you. Try filling up on lots and lots of vegetables, and drinking lots of water. I'm rooting for you! You can do it!
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I think i've read on atkins forums that it is easily happened if sliding to carboville even once. Our bodys somehow preprogrammed to easy fixes carbs provide. It is really hard to stop once you've started. I feel like my animal brain creeps up and takes over. The reasoning doesn't work,I always feel like even one piece of cake plays on my deprivation feelings and convinces me to continue, because numbers will still be out of order. During my 1,5 years I've tried different strategies and many times even 1 slice of bread could make me go crazy and eat all sorts of stuff. Of course it would result in big numbers, but more problematic is all the water that retains in my legs. Carbs actually bind 7 times it's weight of water, so no wonder what happens :) I really recommend this book, Brain over binge :) makes one understand the principles but points out why brain will always win if one will continue restricting some types of food. That's why I feel it is so challenging to follow her concepts with D, we "have to" restrict some food groups on a daily basis. Or I have to, because I can not guess my proper dosages if I eat high carb diet (above 50 gr a day). High carb diet will result in jumpy BG for me, more lows=more eating. Another good book is "emotional eating with diabetes" where author recommend to plan for occasional treats and include them into meal plans, otherwise it creates all those problems like we struggle with. So if you plan them, they won't be as exciting or rare. May be this will help. Of course this will set you back from ketosis, but then again you can turn to it quickly again. I think Atkins people would recommend the induction. Hopefully it will go much faster this time, without flu symptoms. And yes, may be you were in ketosis, especially if you were eating moderate protein and lots of fat. The best way to know this is the ketosis strips, I am afraid. Sometimes I feel that ketosis is such a tricky thing to achieve because body gets more and more efficient in breaking down the proteins and converting them to glucose. I've been there only once after my DX, I am one of those people who gets ketosis rush, so I kinda knew directly :) but I was thrown out from there very quickly :) Don't know if I ever be there again. I can not eat 60 gr of protein and 90 gr of fat a day. I feel nauseous and somehow disgusting and still hungry (some Type 1s never feel satiated because we luck amylin, hormone responsible for satiety signals to the brain. It dies together with beta cells, when immune system attacks and kills them) |
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I have a collegue at work, and he eats as a "normal person" with lot's of insulin and claims that he has great control. He is really skinny and I usually can smell the aceton-like breath when he talks, so I don't really know how he does that :) if not in borderline ketoacidos all the time. Because I have another friend who eats the same kind of food he does (we got D at the same time, met at the hospital) and she've gained a lot of weight during last year after her honeymoon (when beta cells continue produce some insulin after the help with injected insulin) was over. oooh, the bread! I miss it most of all! My husband is a bread snob, he buys only artisan bread made with sourdough :) so I understand you! I eat wasa crisps - 3,6 carbs per piece, they actually can bring that bread feeling. I tried making all sorts of almond meals and coconut breads but it is not even close and I gave up. |
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Lock them in a cupboard and give your husband the key. Have him get out the snacks/bread for Olivia the night before and put them in a cupboard out of your sight. Yes, you will have access to them during the day, but you aren't going to be as likely to eat her bread or snack that she needs! You just need time to break he cycle. Also focus on you and she preparing some healthy meals/snacks together... Cut apples and celery and let her dip them in a little Greek Yogurt sweetened with stewed fruit or low sugar jam. Peel string cheese and see who can get the most little strands from one stick. Wrap some fat free meat around a thin cheese slice and cut into mini pinwheels... I am sure you can think of lots of ways to make your healthy eating work for her too. And continue it at dinner for hubby too. Prepare the foods everyone needs! It is hard to get off track and back on without lots of help and determination. You CAN DO IT! |
Thanks for all the encouragement and tips. I'm starting my day like I do most everyday with my omelette, hoping for a better day. Hubby bought me a "Seal A Meal" (vacuum sealer thing) and the bags are supposed to be boilable so hopefully our daily omelettes are no longer poisoning us, lol!
I went to the dr yesterday and got started on an antibiotic so maybe this sinus infection will leave me alone in the next couple days. Olivia finished hers yesterday. Trish, you asked about activities for Olivia. Preschool ends next week and then we go on vacation for a week. I'm working on a summer schedule for us. Fridays are storytime at the library so we are heading there today. The first few weeks of June I will have to get creative but mid June the free or $1 kid movies start here so each week we'll have a movie day and a library day and at least one day we go to the pool. One week in June she is going to a half day cooking camp and in August a week of half day water camp. In July she has swim lessons on Tues and Thurs. I'm still filling in our schedule but hopefully soon I'll have it together. If we stay at home she just wants to watch TV. Here, it honestly gets so hot it's hard for me to take her anywhere outdoors. We have a fenced backyard but she wants me with her all the time and I just don't do heat well. It is already in the 80s most days and soon the humidity will be in full swing and it will be 90s alot. Even early in the morning it is awful. It's sad bc we wait all winter to get outside more and then overnight it is unbearable. The parks here have no shade. They don't put trees up to avoid possible injuries. We do have one free indoor park so we will go there some I'm sure. |
Shannon, I was wondering if you are still eating your eggs in the morning. I think they help me stay in control, at least most of the day. You will like the Seal-a-Meal. I have a Food Saver. It's good that your husband is in tune to your needs.
I forgot about the sinus infection. That would definately raise your blood sugar, and not by any fault of yours. Illness stresses the body and stress raises blood sugar. It could also be effecting your eating. Your body just needs different nutrients to fight the infection. Do the best you can, and after your infection is cleared up you should do much better. I can't handle heat either, and we don't get as hot up here as you do. We do also have humidity and that's a real killer. I usually limit my outdoor time to evenings when it gets a little cooler. Have a good day at the library. You have lots of activities lined up for summer. You're a good mom! |
This is a quick flyby as I have to leave in a few minutes to go get my perm. We are doing it at 3 pm because it is easier with less activity etc. Friday makes it easier for me to go instead of Saturdays because I have one Saturday a month when I have to re-arrange schedules for a ladies meeting at church.
My weight was back down to 222.4 this am. FBS was 136. I read there's no damage to body if we keep it under 120. I have got to get myself back to getting it back down. I didn't want eggs etc today so I had oatmeal with frozen blueberries and Greek yogurt which I hate and can't wait until I use it all up. Not doing that fast enough. Then decided to add some protein by eating one nuked egg with a lowfat Turkey sausage pattie. I'm having chicken noodle soup as a quick meal running out today. I got my Vegetti and going to store to get veggies to make with it tonight with some coconut oil for dinner. I hope this helps me get back on track. I'm reading on the Chicks in Control thread and I honestly believe the more I read that I have an Eating Disorder. Will back on low carb tomorrow I hope. Just not interested today. Catch y'all later when I get back home. |
Shannon Glad you got an antibiotic. When you get that under control your fbs should settle back down. Great activity plans for Olivia. My kids and grandkids always enjoyed the library. When they got old enough, my children were part of a summer reading activity at the library where they got a certificate at the end of the summer if they read a certain number of books. When I homeschooled my grandchildren, I always took them to the library for reading books.
The chicken noodle soup was way too salty so I drained and rinsed it with hot water and ate it. Didn't know how to count the calories so I used a low sodium count and counted it a little high hoping to cover it. Went to the store after the perm and walked around thinking about getting something carby to eat and absolutely nothing looked good. I got a zucchini, a yellow squash and carrots and some smoked oysters. Came home and made the zucchini/yellow squash noodles and sauteed them in coconut oil with chopped onion and grated a small amount of carrot for color and seasoned with Mrs. Dash and added one can drained and rinsed smoked oysters. Put half of it away for tomorrow night and ate half tonight. Humm-humm so very good. This would be good with shrimp or chunks of chicken. I wanted to try the noodles tonight before I buy any more squash. I tried using the Vegetti with the carrots and it didn't work for me so I used my grater. I tracked everything and I ended up eating a tidbit over 1200 calories today. So although not really low carb, I am very happy with the day. Tomorrow I will see if my fbs is happy. Carol Sue Thanks so much for sharing the Chicks in Control thread. I wrote my sister today and gave her info to get to it. I sure hope she will check it out. Rennie, Ruth, Kris and others :wave: Hi Good night. |
Trish, I think everyone who has a weight problem has some type of eating disorder. It only makes sense. Everyone has a trigger food. DH eats when he's hungry and NEVER finishes everything on his plate. It's like having a young child because I finish what he leaves half the time. I'm not going to throw away a good piece of fish or chicken. There's always at least a couple bites left of his hamburgers and a handful of fries. That is a normal eater. He thinks eating disorders are a bunch of bunk.
I first went to the library with my friends when I was in 5th grade, and the first book I checked out and read was The Secret Garden. I have been an avid reader ever since. I know that fiction is fantasy, but I love getting lost in a story and forgetting about my problems for a while. Yesterday I started out with my eggs and veggies. The Civic Center down the street has a lunch and dinner every 3rd Friday of the month so DH and I split a hot sausage sandwich and I didn't eat the roll. But then we went to the casino and I had a fish sandwich and I DID eat the roll. So today my BS is at 162, in spite of the glimiperide. I intended to only eat a bite of the roll and then eat the rest of the fish with my fork, but that didn't happen. Next time I will have to order it on a plate without the roll so I'm not tempted. That bread just grabs hold of me and jumps into my mouth! I don't even want to look at the scale today. I thought it was still April and argued with DH when he said the Memorial Day Weekend is coming up. Where is the time going? I only have 6 weeks until I get my A1c checked again. I better get myself straightened out! |
EYesterday, I ate only when hungry and ate what I wanted and no more. I had a terrible headache last night, but then realized that usually in the afternoon I drink a couple of big glasses of regular green tea and since I had spent the afternoon at beauty shop and grocery store that I didn't have any green tea until I got home. Strange how our body gets hooked on that stupid caffeine. I only drink a small amount, but evidently it is enough for me to react with a headache without it. Took one of DH caffeine pills and 1 Excedrine and it finally went a way. He gets terrible migranes sometimes so he keeps that stuff on hand.
Carol Sue I still don't understand how blood glucose works (even after all the technical/medical scientific jargon. I had all those carbs for breakfast and lunch and fbs was back down to 124 this morning. Biggie drumroll new low 221.4. 2teens here I come WAHOO!!! I've now lost 18 lbs. I just might get below 229s before my trip. Any way I've decided to still watch the calories by tracking on MFP, but do it with IE not any diet rules. It seems that some of the Chicks in Control have learned that they have to do that. I have a Ladies meeting at church this morning and have to be there because the secretary asked me to do the Minutes. I am nervous about it because in all my 70 yrs that is one job I've never done. But her daughter is getting married and this the appt day for last fitting. So I agreed try it and if I don't like it, I don't have to ever do it again. They eat there so wanting to stay OP, I ate a grilled cheese on double fiber bread sandwich and drinking a cup of coffee. Decided that at the brunch that I'll have my second cup of coffee either with a snack of fruit or just the coffee. Depends on what they have. After all, I have to come home and track it on MFP. As for throwing food away, I know exactly how you feel. But years ago, I did the first book series of that woman (can't remember her name) that had the Christian weight loss. I think she is the one who taught people to always leave one bite on your plate. I did that for a while and got things under control until I married DH and we started sharing meals especially when we went out to eat. Of course that doesn't work at home and I finally got out of the habit. I have tried to do that now, but since I kind of eyeball and or actually measure the portion, my thought is usually "well, it is allowed" idea so I go ahead and eat it all. :?: The games we play in our head. You know I think my eating disorder has actually come from "dieting" mentality because I do have little games I've learned to play so I can do the diet and get by with what I can. Like a little kid with rules. May that is why Not dieting but eating Intuitively may be the way to go for me. Got to run. Can't be late. BBL |
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