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Ruthxxx 06-01-2012 06:02 AM

Diabetes Chat for June.
 
Good morning and welcome to June - in case you didn't notice.

May was a bit of a wash for me as far as weightloss was concerned - up/down/up all month for a net result of 0. However, FBGL was stable except for one high mystery reading mid-month. I really hope to get more weight off in June. Right now I am exactly the same weight I was this time last year. That is NOT progress!

Part of my problem is living in this small town which seems to be the carb capital of Eastern Ontario. Because of all my volunteer involvements, I seem to end up at foodie events a lot. June is jammed with BBQs, fish frys, picnics and strawberry socials. And the July brings the Fair. I really need to go to a special gym class to stiffen my resistance muscle.

pattygirl63 06-01-2012 09:00 AM

A quick flyby this morning. Got to run to the post office and go down to Aldi's to get me some fruit... I love their grapefruit and have one left. This is also my wash day so really busy. DH and DD are going laptop pc shopping this afternoon to find a nice inexpensive one for DGS graduation gift. He graduates tomorrow afternoon. We will take him out to eat and then come home and give him the gift. He has wanted one for so long and was disappointed when he didn't get it for Christmas or his BD. However, DH and I had always planned to get it for his Graduation. DD wants to give it to him so if we go in together on it then we can get a nicer one.

I can't believe this is June already. Hope June is nicer to us for our health.
Y'all have a great June 1st.

Riemontana 06-01-2012 10:51 AM

Hi all,

Sorry that I have been MIA for a few days. I have just been overwhelmed, and maybe a little down. I am happy to say that my eating has stayed on track in the midst of a lot of stress.

This weekend I hope to get a few things done and maybe a little fishing.

I hope everyone has a good weekend. Back tomorrow.

Rie

fatmad 06-02-2012 10:25 AM

Hey everyone:
Well, yesterday started off well. I went to the chiropractor, and thats always a help for me. THen yoga, then lunch with a friend. After that did some shopping, got some shapewear to wear under my dress for the wedding. Also rechecked local stores for dresses, but think I will order one online instead. No local places had just what I wanted, and I can order one online that I quite like. I tried on some similar ones and they look ok, so I think I will do that today.
Last stop was costco. I go splenda packets in bulk, (so much cheaper than anywhere else, ) but also bought some granola bars. Just 3 points each, and a nice snack for work. Some frozen fish fillets too.
THen I went off the rails. GOt home, and had double servings of the fish for supper, and ate 4 granola bars. (They are really good!) Why oh why am I not satisfied with one. I wasn't even hungry. WHy to undo all that I have managed?
Carbs really get my carb cravings going. THis is where will power comes in.
OK, GOing super low carb for the rest of the weekend. That does it!

Ruth: I hear you with the foodie events. I don't know about changing your social life to get away from them, I like that you are an older woman on your own, but have a full and rich life. It nice to hear about, and think that aging doesn't mean loneliness. I have often looked to my father and love how social and active he is, for him retirement was truly a new lease on life. Are there things to focus on that don't include food? Is there a walking group at your church?

Rie: care to talk about what's getting you down and overwhelmed?

hope people are having a good weekend, we are getting more of the needed rain, but it now it looks we won't have much dry weather before the wedding, and thats not great either.
TTFN

Butterfly50 06-02-2012 11:07 AM

Going threw My diabetic nutrition book and was ready where they say you can have 2 tbs of dried fruits > Does anyone do dried fruits and if so how do you handle them I thought dried fruits were higher in sugar from being dried but I would love some dried cranberries or raisins As I go threw and have anymore questions I will ask. I will be back

love2b150 06-02-2012 01:43 PM

Good Afternoon Ladies. I am proud to say that my fbs this morning was 118. I am so happy to see that low number. I am looking forward to doing better and seeing only double digests like you all :D

Ruth wow that is a lot to resist, busy lady. :) That would be a challenge for me and a great one at that. If I conquered all of those outings then I would know I have this in the bag :)

Trish grapefruit is ok? I love grapefruit. How much of one do you eat in a meal? and I just left Aldi, didn't even look at them because I didn't know I was allowed without it causing havoc. Your DGS is gonna be thrilled :)

Rie sorry about the stress :hug: I hope you have a great weekend. Keep smiling :)

Madeleine you are busy busy busy. When you eat the granola does it spike your bs a lot? I am not a fan of granola or oats but if I could find something similar I'd be willing to give it a try.

Bonnie what book do you have?

Sorry for all of the questions today. I have one more do any of you eat bread? If so what is the best brand/kind to eat. I just want a good sandwich. Thanks

geoblewis 06-02-2012 06:50 PM

Quick check-in here...hey girls! I'm still on vacation! Posting from Edinburgh where I've been having a wonderful time. Have only check blood sugar a couple times. I've stayed really active, walking 3 to 6 miles a day. I've done some Pilates in my room on occasion, worked out at the hotel gym too. All my success was in the fitness realm. Food is a different story! Not that bad, but I've been eating whole wheat bread every day, plus one dessert. I've made sure the bread had lots of butter on it and the dessert had lots of cream in it (ha ha!) and had plenty of vegetables and some protein with every meal. Just haven't eaten many meals. I have no idea how my blood sugar is doing, but I feel pretty great (except for how sore my legs are from all the hills and stair climbing).

I'll be checking back in by Wednesday or Thursday. Be well!

Butterfly50 06-02-2012 08:47 PM

Rennie I have a book Choose your foods The Exchange list for Diabetes I got it from the nutrition center when I had my nutrition counselling I looked at several dried fruits man the carb content was out of this world and so was the sugars so I didnt buy any.. The book is buy American Dietetic association. Its jest a 64 pages that tells you information on the good and bads of foods and the amount to stick with.

Ruthxxx 06-03-2012 06:54 AM

Oh my! Reality has struck! I tried on and bought a bathing suit yesterday morning. It was just as traumatic as it was before I lost some weight but I will survive. It helped me me resist most of the food at the afternoon garden party and have a very light salad supper. BGL up a tad this morning - not sure why. Weight is still the same.

Rain in the forecast again today and I have a "family" dinner tonight with some of my single gal-pals and their kids. (They are all in their 40's but I manage not to feel old.) Karen is doing a ham, Joanne a salad and Heather scalloped potatoes. I am hoping the salad is a simple one. Rather than make a rhubarb pie for dessert, I bought a DQ ice cream cake which the kids will love and I can resist completely.

On with Sunday - trying hard to feel strong.

fatmad 06-03-2012 09:28 AM

I did well with the friends for supper last night. Made canneloni, not low carb, but with the meat stuffing not bad. Made an antipasta tray with cold cuts and cheese, (olives and artichokes too of course) to balance it off, and of course, a huge green salad. and for dessert, that ricotta cake I made at Dad's birthday in April. All in all went well, didn't totally pig out. The conversation was good.
A bit difficult to talk much with my friend about stuff that mattered. DD was with us for a while when we were prepping supper and didn't have the guys around, so it was later. She cried a little, having trouble with her DD and the fellow she has been seeing for 4 years now (who was downstairs watching the overtime hockey with my DH), family difficulties, She is having a crummy year, and I just want to be there for her. (she a was wonderful and non-judgmental during my own bad year with all the problems with DD) Good friends are worth a fortune, aren't they?

Georgia, I love holidays that involve lots of walking, it helps balance off all the great food we have. Only had a couple bad meals when I was in England and Scotland, most were quite wonderful. Continue to have a great time. The walking will of course help with the sugars anyhow!

Bonnie: remember the portions recommended with the dried fruit. 2 tblsp would be enough to put some raisins in your oatmeal, and not more.Or 2 prunes to help with constipation. Stick with fresh when you can get it. Also, a lot of the diabetes association diets are pretty high in carbs, and they are written to be the same for type 1 and type 2. Most of us type 2 find we do better with lower carbs. (the diabetes association diets usually have about 180-200g carbs/day, where most of us are doing about 100g/day or lower) but when you lower carbs, you have to get the calories and energy from somewhere, so increase fat and protein a bit so you don't get too hungry.

Love2b150, I stick to whole grain cereals when I have cereal. One serving of grains a day. So breakfast cereal, often fibre 1 or one of the kashi granola like cereals with either milk and fruit or greek yogurt and fruit. or sprouted grain bread with peanut butter and fruit spread. or later in the day, a granola bar. These are always whole grain, and the preventia ones have dark chocolate on the bottom, (supposed to be antioxidant!) and are delicious. You notice I said one serving/day of grains, and that night I ate several bars, so way too much. Kashi granola bars, or fibre 1 bars are ok too. The kashi and preventia ones are 3 ww points, while the fibre 1 are 4. Either way, they are dessert, as the sweetness is there. :devil:

Ruth, have a great time tonight, way to go getting a dessert the kids will love but won't tempt you!
I for one am going to do some planting today, and if the rain will not go away, will also get some tax stuff done. (haha, because I am self-employed, don't have to file until June 15!)
have a good sunday friends.

Riemontana 06-03-2012 12:02 PM

Hello All!

Fbs at 75 today. My bs has been stable. Yesterday was a good day. I went for a 4+ mile walk, did some gardening and ate well. My weight is still high but I am hanging in there.

This week my challenge will be a trip to Sidney, MT - on the edge of the oil field development. Food choices will be limited and it is not safe to be out walking there. If I have wifi at the motel, I will post.

My stress has been a combination of work stress and stress at home with my ds hitting all at the same time. I am trying to maintain a more positive attitude.

Mad, when is the wedding? I can sure relate about problems with adult children. Most of the time my ds is really easy.... it has just been a hard time lately.

Ruth, swimming suits are brutal. On the other hand, buying swim suits for the first time last year was new for me. It had been about 20 years since I had even owned one. I guess that it progress.

Bonnie, I eat a couple tablespoons of dried cranberries or cherries on a salad sometimes. They are a sweet and tangy addition. Such a small portion is hard for me to eat as a snack but I do ok if I include them in a salad. I also like a few raisins mixed in with broccoli salad.

Georgia, your vacation sounds wonderful! Enjoy.

Love2b, your questions are most welcome! I eat a whole grain bread called Montana Wheat. It has 13 carbs per slice. I rarely eat bread. I tend to treat carbs as something that I "spend" like currency. Grapefruit is considered a low sugar fruit. I can also tolerate apples and berries - in reasonable portions Congrats on your new numbers. You are making great progress!

Trish, I am sure that your dgs loved the laptop. What a great gift.

Sorry I haven't been around much. I will try to do better. I always feel better after I have visited you here. thanks.

Rie

love2b150 06-03-2012 07:02 PM

fbs this morning 155 ... I don't know why though but I guess I'll figure it out with time.

Georgia, why a lot of butter and heavy cream with the bread and dessert? Doesn't that make your reads higher? I'm just asking I haven't got a clue. :shrug: Still learning and love tips that can allow me to eat a piece of bread :D Good for you on getting your exercise in :)

Thanks Bonnie for the name of the book :)

Ruth my fbs was higher also but I was down .2 in weight not a lot I know but I just figured if one was high the other would be also :shrug: Hope you have a great day. :)

Madeleine glad your supper went well, and what a great friend you are :) Good friends are worth a fortune :) Thanks for the information to Bonnie. I think you answered my question to Georgia also :) Do you have a particular Greek yogurt that you eat? I bought some Alvarado St. Bakery - sprouted grains bread today. I ate two slices with some Smucker's fruit spread and some Peter Pan low sugar peanut butter. Not what I had in mind but it did satisfy a taste that I was needing I believe :D. I will definitely check out the granola bars, though I am not a granola fan. I need to learn to stop being so picky, huh!

Thanks Rie I was wondering about apples, thanks and grapes too? :)

Jane 06-03-2012 09:10 PM

For Rie ---> :hug:

Riemontana 06-03-2012 10:32 PM

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thanks Jane - and everyone. I thought you might enjoy a peek at my mood elevating activity of the day. Fishing with the little guy late this afternoon. Low carb, too!


geoblewis 06-04-2012 02:00 AM

Love2b, for my body, if I add some good fats to whole grains, blood sugar doesn't seem to go up as much. This is a recent discovery of mine. It also must go with meal timing. Can't do that in the mornings because blood sugar is already at an elevated level for me. Can't do it at night because my liver stores it all and dumps it in the morning. So if I've been walking/exercising a lot throughout the day, then I can have whole grain toast with butter for a midday snack or a creamy dessert with a late lunch. But I have to exercise on either side of eating like that.

I'm missing my old eating schedule, though. My friend and I have different body clocks and we don't usually feel like eating or getting to bed at the same time. And since we're so far north, sunset is much later and it never really gets dark enough. I am ravenous at lunch, not eating dinner so much, and I miss my vegetables. I am not drinking enough water either. And I've had more gin this week than I've had all year!

I fly back to the US on Wednesday. Tonight we go to the symphony! I've never been!

pattygirl63 06-04-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riemontana (Post 4358021)
thanks Jane - and everyone. I thought you might enjoy a peek at my mood elevating activity of the day. Fishing with the little guy late this afternoon. Low carb, too!


:hug:Rie... that is what it's all about isn't it? Hope things are going good for you. I've decided that I have to step back and see what I'm accomplishing here and I realized that if I was as emotional as I was when the oldest DGS granduated, what will I be like if I live to see the youngest one accomplish the same thing. When I married DH there was no way that little boy would have made the accomplishments he has made. I didn't know enough about Aspburgers (sp) to know what he wasn't supposed to be able to do so I took all the good things his real "deceased" grandmother put in him and I built on that telling him he could be whatever he wanted to be. I stood at the graduation and remembered a little 9 yr old boy looking up at me and whispering "Do you know about my Meemaw?" And I told him "Yes, I know about your Meemaw and you can talk to me about him anytime you want. I was really close to my grandmother like you were with your Meemaw". We've been buddies every since.

No one works with getting baby to drink from a cup. We have a special cup that teaches him to drink out of a straw. No one has worked with him and the therapist will be here in the morning. I found a new straw and cut it to make it work for him. YAY!!!! I tried it with him after his nap and I am pleased to say that Jaxx actually liked drinking milk from a straw today.

So, I want to thank you Rie for helping me through all I've gone through and I pray whatever you are going through will work out good for you. We are doing what needs to be done and I think I realized Saturday at the graduation that the "Reward" is the results we see later down the road.:hug:

love2b150 06-04-2012 07:57 PM

fbs was 140 this a.m.

Hi Jane :wave:

Rie what a great mood elevating activity. My boys go to the pond to fish (I'm not allowed) they go with there friends. Catch and release :)

Georgia thanks for the tips. For breakfast this morning I had a slice of rye/pumpernickel bread with real butter and fruit spread with an egg, cheese and ham omelet I made, my bs was 138 - 2hrs and 15minutes after. I was shocked. So that breakfast sounds like a keeper for me. Now I have to work on lunch. Dinner is pretty easy :)

Trish and Rie :hug: I haven't been here long enough to know what's what but it sounds like you all have made some great accomplishments. Keep up the great work and keep being you :hug: I hope that the whatever you are going through gets better/easier :hug:

fatmad 06-05-2012 02:03 PM

Love2B, glad you are finding that some fat helps with the sugars. The balancing act comes with having the fats to slow down the absorptions of starches, (trying to make sure they are healthy fats if possible) and when we are trying to lose weight, making sure that calories are within the limits we want. Its tough for all of us, and its a learning process.

For my part, I am doing atkins again for a bit, the carb cravings are getting the best of me. We will see if I can make it through the first day, always the hardest. Managed to turn down the chinese noodles DH was having for lunch.
GOt to Yoga this morning.

Sad news, my uncle (Dad's brother) passed away yesterday. He has had alzheimers for a few years, and was in a nursing home, with an aunt and cousin taking most of the responsiblity for seeing him regularly and doing laundry for him. He was a terrific guy, comfirmed bachelor, a real womanizer, but also with no kids, he was more of a friend to his nieces and nephews, and treated us all wonderfully. I am trying to figure out a schedule change to go to Quebec for the funeral with my dad.

Rie: loved the pic. A great mother/son activity. Bet thats a great time for him to open up and talk about things weighing on that young mind, in between telling you about the sound an outboard motor makes. :D

Have a good Tuesday friends

pattygirl63 06-05-2012 07:27 PM

:hug:Madeliene So sorry to hear about your uncle. All but one of my uncles are gone and I was never very close to him. Daddy wasn't raised with him. I'm cutting back on my carbs as well. Not doing Induction because of the Joint Juice that I drink, but I had to get control as I was craving sweets ALL the time which always is a good sign that I better get busy and get control. I actually have been hungry for the Atkin's food. Got the New Atkins recipe book. I know I would like to eat more low carb and thought they might have some good recipes in there. Haven't had time to look at it yet.

I've been dealing with swelling a lot too and I know low carb takes care of that so easily. In fact, I woke up this morning with leg cramps in BOTH legs at the same time. I hopped out of bed going "O God, O God". Didn't even wake up DH. LOL Can't really blame the Metformin at this point though as I'm really trying to flush the fluid out. I'm just trying to hit the protein and veggies more than anything else and not cook with much if any salt at all which is tricky since DH loves his salt, but I can make most of my foods separate from his.

Bonnie, Jane, Georgia, Ruthie, Love, Rie and Everyone:wave:

Ruthxxx 06-06-2012 05:55 AM

Patty, I'm fighting the salt monster too. Weight is still up - 184 :yikes: and I'm wondering if I'm using salt as a scapegoat. I did have ham on Sunday, a marinated flank steak on Monday and sushi when in town yesterday but ...

Anyhow, I'm off to the gym shortly and have asparagus soup planned for lunch with three (count them!) wheat thin crackers. Not sure about dinner but it will include lovely chard and/or spinach from my garden. I also am loaded with leaf lettuce if anyone wants some. Coming soon - sugar snap peas and strawberries!

Hang in there chickies.

pattygirl63 06-06-2012 11:53 AM

Ruthie I forgot that the main reason that I love low carbing is that it keeps that old salt monster from swelling up my ankles. I really didn't cut the carbs all that much yesterday and finally I can see my ankles. Not the way I want them, but they are way down from the way they've been in the past few weeks. And I think weight has actually gone back down and even a lb lower than ticker, but I'll wait a few days to be sure. I got in the habit of eating a lot of low cal/ff foods as well as a lot of prepared foods and of course they are loaded with salt. I'm trying to do more homemade things so I have more control.

I love Chinese/Oriental type foods as I know you, Ruthie, do as well. I found a large bag frozen Oriental veggies at Aldi's and decided to try them. I make either instant brown rice or whole grain noodles and cook them up, take some kind of meat... beef, pork, chicken or fish (I like pre-cooked tail-off shrimp) and I cook those all separately. Nuke the veggies while noodles or rice cook as I saute the meat in whatever goes with meat I'm using and/or taste I'm in the mood for at that time. When it is all done, I mix it together and I have a nice healthy Chinese type dinner and little or no salt. I'm trying to learn to do this with a lot of foods that I/we like ready made.

I don't know if I shared with those of you here on this thread, but I'm reading a book "Why the Chinese Don't Count Calories" by Lorraine Clissold. Only read 2 chapters so far... message seems to be that we seem to think we've done a good "healthy" thing if we, example, eat a portion of green peas, drink orange juice and have a salad each day to get our 5 veggie/fruits in. And while we build a meal around a meat dish, they build a meal around loads of veggies. They eat the meat and carbs, but they are all mixed and blended together... unlike the Chinese meals where we want loads of rice and meat, I get the impression theirs is either balanced or they eat more veggies. They have no fear of any food as we do here in the western world. Also, they blend flavors of seasonings in their foods. From what I can tell, their way of eating is comparable to what I have read about Volumetrics way of eating. Also, helps me to understand more of what as well as why WW is trying to get dieters to learn to eat more veggies and fruits.

Yesterday I wanted fish. DH loves Long John Silvers, but there is no way I can match it. I've tried. I heated up some peanut oil. Salted a cod fillet for him and I had some Steelhead trout that I need to use and lightly salted fillet for me. Since I don't want the flour, I took almond flour and mixed with with a little corn meal to make my batter. I dredged fish in dry mixture and egg/milk mixture and dry mix again to coat well and fried it in the peanut oil just long enough to get the fish done. I think this could also be baked which I've done with just the almond flour, but wasn't sure with the corn meal thus the reason for frying it. DH thought it needed more salt, but other than that it was good and we had plenty of veggies so it was much healthier for us.

Madeliene I heard something on tv last night where someone had just stopped eating"wheat"... person hadn't changed anything else but cut out the wheat and said he had lost inches in his waist, no longer lethargic with that washed out feeling. In fact, he said that he felt better and had a lot more energy. Can't remember what was said about the weight loss. It seems he knew someome who looked great and told him they had quit eating wheat. He said he liked the way that person looked so much that he decided to try it. He only gave up foods with wheat in it which he said he found it in loads of food. He stressed that he still eats ice cream etc no other change but the wheat gone from diet. Don't know that I'm ready to totally get rid of wheat, but I could cut it way back and who knows may still cut it out completely if I can find satisfactory substitutes for some of the things I eat. I do eat more whole grains, but I'm not sure if it still has wheat in it or not so I'll have to check that one out..

Don't have to cook today as DH made his huge batch of spaghetti sauce last night. Haven't decided if I'm going to eat it on whole grain spaghetti or make loads of veggies and mix it. Have plans for both so will see which way it goes.

Y'all have a great day.

fatmad 06-06-2012 08:39 PM

HI Friends:
fbs was 4.8 today after my atkins day yesterday. Weigh in was back to ticker tonight. I stuck with atkins again today.
Trish: I am not sure I will stay wheat free for long. I don't think it makes me feel fuzzy in the head. I definitely don't feel bloated with it the way some people do. But, I am doing better on carb cravings by having none for now. Seems to also lessen the food cravings in general. But I think the other part is that planning is simplified. I stayed for the meeting tonight and was reminded about that. I haven't been planning my food for the day keeping points in mind. will have to work on that, but I don't think thats likely until after the wedding. but the planning should help me get through my vacation times. My other goal will be to ride my bike, which I haven't been doing very often. Will be easier on the knees than running or lots of walking. so thats tonight's meeting, making goals and plans for the summer.
Hope everyone had a good hump day.

Ruthxxx 06-07-2012 06:31 AM

Hmmmm. Weight is up again and I think it is definitely the carbs! I need to quit blaming salt.

Yesterday's planning went down the tube as other stuff interfered. I need to make MY plans a priority.

Here are the gory details:
B. 2 slices brown bread and one poached egg.
Snack - a cup of raspberries
L. bacon and tomato sandwich on brown bread
Snack - an avocado
D. pasta with pesto and parmesan plus a glass or two of red wine.

How's that for being waaaaay off plan?!!! Wheat city! I just may have to switch over to Atkins for a while and keep a close eye on my BGL.

pattygirl63 06-07-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruthxxx (Post 4362206)
Yesterday's planning went down the tube as other stuff interfered. I need to make MY plans a priority.

Here are the gory details:
B. 2 slices brown bread and one poached egg.
Snack - a cup of raspberries
L. bacon and tomato sandwich on brown bread
Snack - an avocado
D. pasta with pesto and parmesan plus a glass or two of red wine.

How's that for being waaaaay off plan?!!! Wheat city! I just may have to switch over to Atkins for a while and keep a close eye on my BGL.

Ruthie I think mine is a combo of salt and carbs, but I think mine was too many pre-packaged foods like I love those new $1 frozen dinners. DD takes them to work and I think when I ate them it made me want more salty foods. Just cutting the out the high salt pre-packaged foods in my diet. I also think you hit something on the head with "I need to make MY plans a priority."

I have done a lot of reading of people who successfully lose weight and keep it off and they learn to eat the way that feeds their lifestyle and the foods they like and I think the key to their success is that they make Their Plan their Priority. I'm not sure that I've ever made MY PLAN MY PRIORITY. I've always left room for fitting into other peoples plans. Maybe that is something to to think about... at least for me to think about.

Have a great day.

pattygirl63 06-07-2012 11:13 AM

Madeleine I think that I have to give up the wheat either although I haven't checked to see if or how much wheat is in my whole grain foods. I had the WG spaghetti with the spaghetti meat sauce DH made and while I did have some swelling with the sauce it wasn't enough to worry about and neither was the WG spaghetti a problem as the 1 lb loss I saw yesterday seems to be sticking. I think I just have to change 2 things... cut the salt back to a minimum and drinking loads of water and tea will help that situation and second lower my intake of the starchy carbs but I don't think I will have to go to Atkins Induction low. I'm not sure it is the eating of wheat as much as it is "how much" we eat of it. What do you think? I'm not really counting cals or carb, IMetformin still not causing any cramps so I guess 1000 mg is safe for me, but the FBS is still up a little.

I read one time that the high morning number has a lot to do with how we feel when we wake up in the morning. Also read where a doctor said it was more important what the number is later in the day and that is always good. Personally, if my number has to be a little bit high in order for me to wake up feeling eager to hop out of bed then I can live with that. JMO

I'm not really counting cals or carbs, I'm just eating only the foods that I like that my body seems to function better on and I'm finding that I am better satisfied and hungry less. It's back to what I wrote to Ruthie about finding "My Own Plan" and making it "My Priority". I'm finding that it works for me because I'm sorry to say that I have a personality tendency of late to "rebel" against "diet" rules and this way I have found a way around that so maybe I can finally get food working for me instead of against. It is called Intuitive Eating.

You can learn a lot for kids. Youngest DGD usually eats ALL the time durning the school year. Last few days, I've noticed that she wasn't eating during the day so realizing that they used to get their meals free at school, I thought maybe they didn't have any food. So I asked her. She said, "Well, we haven't been to the store, but I've just been busy playing the X-Box". This morning I gave her some Eggo waffles if she wanted them. She said, "I'm not hungry right now" as she put them in the freezer of their fridge. I found that quite interesting because during the school year she left the house eating, came home and went straight to making something to eat and ate constantly throughout the day on Sat and Sun. What has changed? I'm not sure, but whatever the trigger was that made her eat constantly seems to have been removed for now. I will be interesting to see what happens when school starts again in the fall.

Everyone must be busy with "summer" things with kids out of school. Hope y'all are having a great day.

love2b150 06-07-2012 06:56 PM

fbs yesterday - 214 due to some no sugar/gluten free pasta. I don't know if maybe my portion was too big or my body just didn't like it.

fbs this morning 162 due to me eating the top off a snickerdoodle muffin my son made

tomorrow will be better no off plan eating for me this evening. Just took my bs it was 89. A lady that I attend services with recommended "milk thistle" have any of you used this or heard of it?

Madeleine I am definitely definitely still learning. This is truly a learning process. Hope you're doing better with Atkins (cravings). I did it once and the carb cravings killed me not to mention the headaches. :) Sorry to hear about your Uncle. We just attended my Dad's youngest brother's funeral on Friday. He had being ill for some time, so even though we'll miss him we know he's in a better place. My condolences to you and your family :hug:

Trish I had a leg cramp one day last week. I haven't had one in forever. I didn't know diabetes caused them (oh not diabetes but the Metformin does?)

My husband use to douse his food in salt but not any more. It took some time but he got use to the way I season food without it. He will however put it in his grits, yuk :) I like the idea of making my own Asian dishes but the fear I have of carbs is just crazy (I know you wouldn't think it since I keep sampling them) :)
I never thought about it like that "fitting into other peoples plans" I think I am more of a convenient person. It's so much easier just to eat what I fix for my family and I cook for them constantly it seems (when I'm home). When I lost weight before I would fix myself something first and eat it while theirs was cooking. I just can't seem to get the back this go around. But I also did not work outside of the home either.

Our kids have one more week and at the end of the school year I have to remind them that this is not a free for all and they can not eat all day. :)

Ruth wish I could get some of that lettuce from you :) How do you make asparagus soup? Is cabbage soup good for us? I like it and can definitely eat it daily. :)

Butterfly50 06-07-2012 07:18 PM

Hi Everyone it's me the Person who keeps falling flat on her face. I go good for a week and then I fall. I am trying to figure out why.. I am feeling pretty down cause it is making me upset that I can't get it togeather. Don't get it I try so hard and it isnt helping. This family here is making it so hard for me to do this too been thinking of how I can make this happen for me I dont know where my will power went but it seems to of disappeared .. I feel like a failure . I disappoint myself I was so strong before the move I was doing soo good and now I can't seem to find the path I need. I do feel like sitting down and having a nice long cry may be it will help me out here. No one in this house understands what I am going threw . I dont even have a friend who I can call on life sucks sometimes feeling alone and dont know where to go.

pattygirl63 06-08-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly50 (Post 4363192)
Hi Everyone it's me the Person who keeps falling flat on her face. I go good for a week and then I fall. I am trying to figure out why.. I am feeling pretty down cause it is making me upset that I can't get it togeather. Don't get it I try so hard and it isnt helping. This family here is making it so hard for me to do this too been thinking of how I can make this happen for me I dont know where my will power went but it seems to of disappeared .. I feel like a failure . I disappoint myself I was so strong before the move I was doing soo good and now I can't seem to find the path I need. I do feel like sitting down and having a nice long cry may be it will help me out here. No one in this house understands what I am going threw . I dont even have a friend who I can call on life sucks sometimes feeling alone and dont know where to go.

:hug:Bonnie I am so sorry you are going through this. I was concerned about y'all moving in there because I've gone through so much myself with so many living here. It isn't that the people around us mean to be difficult, but as you say they just don't understand. It isn't easy when you have to cook and do things around others... their schedule, way of eating and lifestyle. Visiting with someone when they come to see us or we go to see them is quite different from living with them.

I've just had to start taking care of me and you will have to find your way to do the same for yourself. It feels like they especially the children are mad at me most of the time, but I've had to find my way to get free from as much of the stress as possible. Here's hoping you :hug: can find your way to lessen your stress.

pattygirl63 06-08-2012 12:34 AM

Rennie I've always had a tendency toward leg cramps even as a teenager, but when I went from 1000 mg to 2000 mg of Metformin they came back and was worse. When I took it with Fenophibrate (sp), I had muscle cramps in various parts of my body especially under my breasts. I am taking only 1000 mg Metformin right now and it seems to be working.

I've actually had a really good few days since I cut back on the carbs. NO CRAVINGS so far. Sure hope it keeps up like this. I'm taking advantage of it and hoping it will become a habit.

Jane Did I see on FB that you have a new Grandbaby? Is that your son's little baby?

Ruthxxx 06-08-2012 06:41 AM

Did OK on keeping carbs in check until early afternoon. I failed to plan ahead, had no lunch and was attacked by a small bag of goldfish crackers when I was shopping in town. Better than a trip to the Chinese Buffet but still ... :( Dinner was great - lobster (!!!) and salad. The lobster is a rare treat since I'm so far from the ocean but there was a great sale. However, the white wine was certainly not necessary.

Completely forgot my meds last night but BGL is 4.6 this morning and two pounds fell off overnight. This whole thing continues to be a big mystery to me. :shrug:

Living by myself, I can make ME a priority but I really feel for those of you dealing with families and other angst. As women, we are inclined to put the needs of others first and it's hard to change that mind-set. I have no good advice but do empathize. Hang in there, chickies - it WILL get better!

fatmad 06-08-2012 09:12 AM

Good morning all: yesterday was a sleep day mostly, had a lovely home birth in the night, but slept a lot. An amazing thing happened, I made ricotta cake for company on Saturday night, but had forgotten about the left overs! Realizing this, I took the 1/2 cake to the office yesterday and shared it with rhubarb sauce (ok, rhubarb cooked with splenda til it was saucy!) and now it is gone, and no longer a temptation. Did low carb yesterday, and will so it today to, then back to atkins induction for saturday and sunday. MOnday and Tuesday will be points days, as we will be at the mercy of the funeral directors, and I want to be able to drink wine or beer. I don't speak french very well period, and get self-concious about it if I don't drink. :o
Weight is down below 180 today, see if it sticks with me changing plans around. fbs was 5.1 so am pretty pleased I got through the sleep day without overeating and overcarbing as I am prone to do.
Trish: those $1 frozen foods are really frankenfoods, full of carbs and salt. No matter how convenient, was pay with our health! As a diet resister, I am with you sister, but however you are managing, make sure you are getting healthy foods and smaller portions. I do like the small plate trick to reduce portions.
Rennie: Its all a learning process for each of us, and some people can handle and enjoy foods that others can't. You fbs was fabulous, congrats! Don't forget extra calcium-magnesium and b complex for the leg cramps!
Ruth, sorry about the pirhanas, I mean goldfish attacking you. What nasty fish, you made up for it with the lobster eating I guess.
I got one of the retro dresses in the mail yesterday, and it does look great on me, but won't zip up the side well, a bit tight there. Plan to lose 5 more pounds in a hurry, (atkins induction to the max!) and sew it on if needed. Still another dress to come, but I definitely like the style and fit of the red one. Its from a place online called "trashy diva" and is a red full skirted tight bodiced shirtwaist style. Its the tight bodice that is the problem, may even take it to a dressmaker and get sewn in if needed for the wedding.
WELL off to work ladies, have a lovely June Friday, tgif

pattygirl63 06-08-2012 10:51 AM

Good Morning Chickies

Weight is about the same. FBS is slowly coming back down, but still high. I really don't know what it was yesterday because I forgot to check it until after I had taken my vitamins and bp medicine. Don't know if any of it really affects it but didn't worry about it. FBS got up to 212 one day this week, but is back down to 187 this morning and NO LEG CRAMPS from the Metformin and the swelling has come down considerably which should help a lot.

Rennie Madeleine is the one who taught me what to do about the leg cramps. My doc says B is a vitamin that just flushes out of our system when we get more than we need so I take one B-100 in the morning, and a B50 or complex depending on what I can get at the time (get most of my vitamins at Wal Mart). I take a Magnesium/Potassium combo I get from a Vitamin store online and it has really helped get the leg cramps under control. I knew about magnesium because the doc had me take Milk of Magnesium 45 yrs ago when I was pregnant and had lots of leg cramps.

Madeleine...:hug: Big Thanks to you You are a real blessing to all of us and I personally appreciate your advice to us. It has taken me a long time to find my way in dealing with diabetes and you've helped me a lot by helping me understand why you do certain things etc. I read a book when first diagnosed a few years ago which said to educate yourself and take control of your diabetes yourself. There is so much info out there on the net as well as in books... some good some not so good. Some I can or am willing to do and others I'm not... that is why you have to make it a learning experience where you learn to do what works/is right for you and fits your lifestyle. According to my doc, those who do this are the ones who successfully control their diabetes.

Ruthie Had Lobster once at Red Lobster back in TX and hated it too fishy tasting. Everyone tells me it is because it was frozen and they swear that if I ever eat it fresh that I'll love it. Hope I get to find out someday. Fish is becoming a big part of my food plan these day... just because I love it.

Bonnie :hug:I pray you have a good day today. Try to take things One Day at a Time. This is what I have to do because I can't do this if I see it long term. I am trying to focus on the "goal" not the now.

This is my laundry day. Kids know it, but oldest DGS came through and asked if I was doing laundry. I've learned to speak up. I told him yes and reminded him that I get Mon and Fri mornings and they have the rest of the week to do theirs. Something came up yesterday and I asked him about something and his attitude has been crappy. So I took the opportunity to let him know that his grandad sees their attitude about things and just how "he really thinks about it". Of course, I didn't tell him/them (not my place) but he feels like they just want to walk all over him... tear up things and have no respect for our stuff and how we want to take care of things. The big thing for me is what I knew would happen when he got to feeling good again "NOW HE IS SAYING THINGS TO THEM" and I think they have heard him say things to me about things. I feel sorry for my hubby. He has always been there for his daughter and her family and his oldest grandson has told him he wants to move back to FL because when he has a family he wants to raise his kids around "his grandparents". Tony is his only Blood grandparent on his Mother's side. It really hurt Tony and he even told his daughter about it. We have thought all along that they were using us and will move back to FL so Tony came right out and asked her. Her only answer was "Tyler says dumb things without thinking". No I think Tyler says what he hears them say because I've seen what she has said on FB. I can see a heartache coming in the future for my hubby that I can't stop. All I can do is pray for him and be there for him. At least now I know what is going on. You know the crazy thing is that my kids, especially my little great grandaughter thinks Tony is the greatest. Strange isn't it? I don't know what the future holds, but I know somehow it will all work out. Sure has changed my attitude about a lot of things. It really helps when you know what you are dealing with. It's just LIFE!!!:dizzy:

Y'all have a great day.

Butterfly50 06-08-2012 12:19 PM

Good Afternoon Everyone and Thanks for the kind words. Today is going on ok so far still feeling down though.

Was wondering is anyone taking vitamins or anything on a daily . Was wondering if I needed something extra in on a daily.

So was also wondering how do some of you handle carbs like bread and stuff like that ..

pattygirl63 06-08-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly50 (Post 4363987)
Good Afternoon Everyone and Thanks for the kind words. Today is going on ok so far still feeling down though.

Was wondering is anyone taking vitamins or anything on a daily . Was wondering if I needed something extra in on a daily.

So was also wondering how do some of you handle carbs like bread and stuff like that ..

I take a lot of Vitamins. Gave a list to doc and he approved it... removing some he said I didn't need and added some he said I did need. As for bread, I only use Double Fiber by Nature's Own. I don't eat a lot of bread very often. However, when I do keep a loaf around for those times when I really want a sandwich. Just me.

Hope you feel better soon.:hug: I know I feel down and depressed when I don't feel in control of my eating. I know I can't control other people, but feel that I should be able to control what I put in my mouth. So I really do understand what you are going through.

love2b150 06-08-2012 11:26 PM

fbs this morning 138 and down 2.4lbs of junk that I swallowed ... I have been so good today that it has to be in range tomorrow, :crossed:

I've noticed that always after lunch feel like I want to eat. I have no idea why. I am full when I finish lunch but about an hour later I'm thinking about food and looking. Thinking what I can eat that won't affect my bs reading. I can't wait for my brain/eyes/stomach to settle down :D

Bonnie I have felt alone so many times. Even today I told my daughter it seems that for every step forward I am yanked two back. I don't know why that is but I lean on my faith. I have 5 children 4 are ages 8-14. I believe that they give me the will to keep on trying no matter how hard I feel that I have it. No one here can talk to me about what's going on with me either. All I hear is Mommy don't eat that, Mommy should you be eating that?, my husband doesn't say anything, my little patrols have it covered. That may sound like a support system but me being at the other end of the stick and watching them eat what they want makes me feel very alone. My baby asked me this evening could I eat pizza? I told her no, she said oh well I guess no more pizza for us. I told her you all have been eating pizza for some time now without me so you can still have pizza (she's 8 that made her smile). May I ask why you feel like a failure? We all (well I have fallen off the wagon so many times it's crazy). I got down to 165bs and got back up to the 190's all because I got lazy and comfortable. Even though I have lost some of the weight it is still not enough to wear 1/4 of my clothes without looking like they belong to my 19 year old. Don't put yourself down. Look in the mirror and tell yourself all of the great qualities about YOU. And then smile, my bathroom is my space to cry and smile. After crying for awhile and my face is all red along with my eyes I ask myself do you feel better. Nope, I've just got to keep on going. Can't change what's done, but I can sure try to make the rest of the way a little smoother. PM me it you'd like, I may not be able to give you any advice but I can sure listen. Sometimes/most times an unbiased ear is all we need :hug:

Trish this is 100% true! Visiting with someone when they come to see us or we go to see them is quite different from living with them. I've lived with my share of families so I totally agree. I use to have leg cramps often when I was in my 20's not so bad in my early 30's. I just thought it was from lack of water and all the partying I use to do. I don't get them to much now but when I do, oh my goodness. I wish I didn't have any carb cravings my life would be so much easier right now. This evening going past 7-11 I wanted donuts so bad. Then I went past McD's and wanted fries. It's crazy. I feel like the lion on Madagascar everything looks like food :( Trish wow, that is heart wrenching, I'm sorry your hubby has to deal with that and you also, but like you said now you know :hug: Mother of five here and I know for a fact kids say exactly what they hear, just mini walking recorders. You know the way the repeat it that it came from an adult perspective.

LOL Ruth I was attacked by a bag of goldfish about a week ago :drool: I ate too many of course even though I shared them with my daughters. :) I've been wanting some stir fry broccoli and chicken (no rice or noodles) if I can keep myself in check all weekend I may just treat myself on Monday to a lunch portion. :) Nice reading this morning :) and nice job on the two pounds down :)

Madeleine, forgive me if I am out of line but I'm trying to get to know you all if that's ok and what's going on here if that's ok. Are you a midwife? and did someone pass away? ... I love midwives (my last four were delivered by midwives) and my condolences to you on the passing of your loved one :hug: Nice weigh in and nice reading :) Oh and may I ask who's getting married? That dress sounds interesting :) I was told to get and take calcium 500mg 2-3 times a day and fish oil 1000mg a day but haven't picked them up yet. Dr. said I didn't need the magnesium because the Metformin has helped me go from constipated and once every 4-5 days to a comfortable every other day. She said the magnesium would probably give me the runs. Sorry if TMI.

Butterfly50 06-09-2012 10:29 AM

Rennie Thanks a bunch. The reason I feel like a failure is because it seems to go good in the am then I crash and burn in the pm . I have been working on a few things and I am gonna start them today I am gonna post here everyday even if I have to post everything I eat and do to make myself countable. Then I see that they offer free diet blogs so I am gonna start one of them and write daily everything under the sun anything thats on my mind . I have three children my oldest one is 22 he still at home my middle on she is 17 and my baby is 14. They are all good about helping me but its the aunt that is the force field here. she is the one who is a diebetic and dont live like one she eats what and when and how much she always have to have sweets and Ice Cream in the house and she is always complaining for me to bake because she cant. I will figure this out here I will see myself that I get out of this rutt..


This morning blood sugar was 104 not bad . I will be back and check in . Thanks to everyone who lent me a ear I want to thank you. I will be checking on a million times.

love2b150 06-09-2012 11:17 AM

Bonnie I too do well in the mornings and afternoons and them my daughter will come home around 9 with a movie and want to eat also. SO I'll start snacking. Once I start it's really hard to stop and I love junk food :(. You can't control how she eats. She obviously doesn't have an issue with her sugar and just goes with the flow of how she wants to live. YOU on the other hand want to do right and you and I can. It will just take planning and a lot of resistance :) We can do it. Oh maybe when you are baking for her, have your nutritional treat handy to snack on. Just a thought :) I had a bout with snickerdoodle muffins last this wee. I didn't like the way I felt after eating a half of one the next day so that experiment was a lesson learned. Won't ever eat anything sweet like that on an empty stomach. Bonnie I'm hoping you have a nice day :hug:

my fbs was 111 this morning. That is the lowest it has been since I was diagnosed. I am so happy to see that number. :) I post on diabetic forums and read last night that someone make French toast with 1 egg, 1 Splenda, 2 tsp of vanilla and cinnamon. I decided to make it this morning with two slices of my low glycemic bread that I found. I ate it with sausage. My bs was 139 so that is another meal that went over well.

I hope everyone has a great day :)

Butterfly50 06-09-2012 02:07 PM

This is the first entry for my blog if you like to read Great if not you dont have to.

Thanks



learning the way to a new life
I was diagnosed being a diabetic for almost a year now. I have lost and I have gained and I am so tired of the ups and downs . I have decided to take it one day at a time and start doing something about it. I have dragged out all the videos and tapes and all the important papers of recepies and stuff that I have to get started.

I have tried to sole search and see where and why I have gotten like this and I have come to the conclusion that Its all me I am the one who picks it up and places in my mouth no one else does . I guess you can say I love Junk food and it is going to be a tuff break. I need to tell myself that it is ok to fall off the wagon as long as I get back up. cause I didn’t put this weight on over night and it isnt going to come off over night either.

I can sit here and say that when I was little I used to have to look for food I was lucky to eat lunch at school cause that was my main meal for the day. Their was many a day we used to pick potatoes and stuff after the tractors plowed the field jest to have food for us to eat. As I got older and I got around food I started to consume a lot of it cause I was so worried that I wouldn’t get any tomorrow then here comes the pounds and now I have a problem with eating food like sweets and junk food and it only has made me gain weight and become a diabetic. I in no means want to become like my Grandma and be a britel Diabetic or my sister who is a diabetic and has to stay in a wheel chair . I must take charge of the diabetic and start living my life cause face it I will have food tomorrow and I will be the one accountable for putting it in my mouth. I will be back to blog more over my struggles in my journey.

fatmad 06-09-2012 03:15 PM

Rennie: you are definitely NOT out of line. Its a pleasure to have you join us and for us to get to know you too. I am a midwife, also a nurse, (in Canada, no nurse midwives, totally independent). My uncle recently died after years of alzheimers. My oldest daughter (age 25) is getting married, in just two weeks. I also have a 20 year old daughter, now in university and living away from home, but just 30 minutes away, and we had a hard time getting along her last 2 years of high school. Its much better now with her away, we visit and get along fine.

Rennie and Bonnie: the evening snack monster is definitely a problem and mostly a learned behaviour. We all fall victim to it sometimes. I do find that eating a good supper is key, and while for some of us, a snack in the evening helps the fasting blood sugars, snack is the key and must be small. In my youth, I could eat a whole bag of chips or cookies and not gain. I had terrible eating habits, and would happily do that again. There are times I slip and over eat and eat poorly. Don't beat yourself up when it happens, but as we read here about people with successes, they don't stop their proper diet plans when they mess up, the get right back to it. So I just want to encourage you both to plan how you will handle the evenings, but having a good and filling supper, and saving a few calories or points or food from whatever plan you are following to enjoy during those evening times. And Bonnie, blogging is a good way to start to sort yourself out, keep it up if you can. I started one, but its just not my thing and has gone by the wayside.

Trish: I just wanna :hug: give you a big ole hug, and hope things will turn out right. No matter what the outcome, (even if they move back to Fla) you will both have helped her and her family out, and gotten to know those grandkids much better than ever. In time, they will mostly figure out that you and Tony did your best, and that you are lovely, loving parents and grandparents. You will always have a relationship with them, even if they are distant, and temporarily ticked off etc. But do protect yourselves from the poorhouse and eternal squabbling so your marriage can survive this.

I am thinking about lobster quite happily Ruth, what a good idea, high protein, low fat (unless we dip in a LOT of butter) and tasty too.

Rie: enjoy the fishing and the weekend.

In the morning I leave for Quebec, will take my laptop but may not have the chance to use it. thanks for all the support friends, and I always enjoy reading about everyone, so a hello to anyone I missed today.

love2b150 06-09-2012 09:26 PM

Bonnie good for you on getting it all out. I started a blog on here a long time ago and have no idea how to get back to it. I started one on the diabetic forum also its really easy to access so I'll keep writing.

Madeleine, I think you did mention your Uncle or someone did. I'm sorry for your loss. :hug: I had an Uncle recently pass also. Our 19 year old daughter is getting married on June 26th. :) When you snack what do you typically snack on? I'm open to anything.


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