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IBelieveInMe2 03-01-2021 12:43 AM

March 2021 Ups & Downs Support Group Thread
 
Hello and :welcome3: to the March 2021 Ups & Downs Support Group thread. We are a small but mighty group that supports each other through the ups & downs of weight loss, depression, & life in general. Anyone is welcome to join in at any time! :smug:

VermontMom 03-01-2021 09:43 AM

Kathleen thank you for starting us for the month of March! :flow1: and :welcome: to anyone who wants to join in.

Kathleen, my b-day was w-a-y back in December, we did not do anything special because we were not allowed to gather...but my husband got me really nice gifts ( I am set for earrings for life lol) and our sons called :)

Yes, the summer job is the one where I am a pastry baker at the private club and it never opened last year. It was very hard to adjust to, even though I enjoyed the heck out of having the summer off. I've been in contact with the manager, and she has been accepting reservations since last year, with telling the members that we don't know anything yet but are hoping for the best!!

If we do open, we will not have our international workers, they were the backbone of our staff! for years we've been hosting 4 to 6 young adults (usually ages 20 - 23) from Slovakia to live and work here. But of course with travel restrictions and just not knowing what the deal is, no arrangements have been made . And our local tourism economy (both summer and winter) depends on out-of-country workers, for 30-some years the State has had workers from Jamaica, South America, and Eastern Europe come here for service industry jobs (housekeeping, waitstaff, etc).

Since weighing yesterday, I am going to try to commit to watching and tracking what I eat. I find calorie counting so very time consuming, yes I know that now there are tons of apps to help..i really have no excuse. You asked how I commit to the daily exercise, I think it must be because I know how it helps me with daily life. I started having knee pain in 2010 and just try to live with it, but I know that strengthening the muscles in the leg will help some.

Curious to ask, what are everyone's State's rules for vaccinations? our State first vaccinated health care and emergency responders; and now going by age groups. Right now (today) started 65 and up. Hopefully the next range will be 60 (me and husband). But maybe it will go to chronically ill of assorted ages. ?

Hello to Lisa, Pat and TREEMBBS and all of our previous friends!

TREEMBBS 03-01-2021 07:29 PM

Hi to you both too as March rolls in.

Interested in your knee Holly as I have a "dodgy" one. The best thing I ever did was invest in a pedal type contraption that you sit near and pedal on. (Built for those who are needing passive movement) Whilst enjoying my morning coffee I pedal away and it has helped me a lot. I know like you that maintaining a healthy weight would help a lot - like you I DETEST calorie counting though when I do make an effort to do it I realize how much "extra" I may consume over the course of a week.

Vaccinations are just starting to roll out here. Aged care homes and frontline workers 1stly. Over 70's next (which covers my hubby) but I am along the track in the over 50's (even though I am 69!! And a carer of someone with chronic health problems)

Cheers from Oz x

VermontMom 03-04-2021 06:48 PM

TREEMBBS - I know EXACTLY what kind of 'contraption' lol you described! my husband has one! his intent was to take it to work to use. It would make sense to LEAVE it there. But I dont know what kind of personal space he is allowed. Maybe that is why it is in the trunk of my car all the time.

Today I had a doctor's appt that I made...I have had a sun damage spot ('age spot") on my forehead for a couple years but last year I noticed it started to be raised. more of a bump. Worried me. She numbed me and scraped/cut it out, and it will be sent away to be biopsied. AND I asked her for 'weight counseling'. I really wanted a pill or something!! She nicely but sternly told me I wasn't overweight enough to justify it. I am 10 pounds away from being a 24 BMI. She asked if I wanted an appt with the nutrition person. I rolled my eyes and said that i KNOW what I'm supposed to do, I just dont do it! But I have an appt next Thursday.

Winter is just grinding along here. today could have been a January day, it was in the low 20's and with the wind it felt like 0. gah!

*edit to add thoughts* :D When I went to be weighed at the doctor's yesterday, I had on; of course regular clothing, but also - boots and winter coat. So it obviously showed 5 pounds more than what my home scale showed. But that number was what was recorded. Why would the assistant allow a person to be weighed with all that on?!

we might get 6" to 8" of snow tonight and it is COLD :no:

VermontMom 03-07-2021 01:24 PM

We did NOT get any snow the night that 6" to 8" was predicted! Win!

I had the bump cut out of my forehead on Thursday and it is sent to be biopsied. Now I have an ugly BLACK spot. Is the black from the silver nitrate she put on?? It is gross to look at.

Sunny :sunny: but still cold here, a high of 24. I did force myself to go outside, put the dog on the lead, and I chopped ice for a while. The sky is a beautiful blue and it was really bright out.

I am so glad to not be working yet I am so aimless during the day. The kitchen is still a mess from November. That's when it got too cold and miserable to take lumber outside to cut etc. so it is a shambles. There isn't really anything that I can do, it's all in the handyman's hands (DH :) ) I will just have to be patient. Yes this would be the time to do clean out projects BUT so much stuff is not mine to decide.

today was 1 week that I made myself weight and face the truth. And I have TRIED this week to cut back . So I weighed this morning and I am one pound HEAVIER. No it is not muscle lol. Ugh!!

DH can get vaccinated this week. I have to wait at least 2 more weeks as I am fortunate that I don't have any underlying health issues.

I have tons to be grateful for yet I am feeling ugh. Someone either cheer me up or kick me in the butt !

IBelieveInMe2 03-09-2021 11:42 AM

Holly: Sending prayers that your biopsy is benign. 🙏 Please let us know once you get your results. The waiting is terrible! :( I think the black spot will eventually fade to red and then fade to nothing or a small scar. I hate having to have spots cut off, especially on the face.

My birthday is December 4th. When is yours? Jewelry is the best gift, especially earrings! You can never have too many earrings! :smug:

So cool that your summer job employs so many international workers. That stinks that they will not be able to come this year if the club opens. It must be difficult ~ both for employers and employees ~ with everything being so uncertain and unpredictable. I hope you will get to go back to the job that you love!

Try not to be too discouraged by the one pound gain despite tracking your eating. They say weight can fluctuate as much as 3-5 pounds from day to day. Maybe you just caught yourself on a bad day. One pound is nothing. The scale will move in the right direction soon if you keep up the good work.:smug:

Thank you so much for sharing your great perspective on the benefit of daily exercise. It is really helpful. I have noticed that a lot of aches and pains have crept in as I've aged, and your very practical advice about exercise helping with daily life is crucial for me to heed. Somehow, there is a disconnect with me between a behavior and its delayed benefits. I want immediate gratification, and I get easily frustrated and lose my motivation if I don't see it. I really need to trust the process and make the connection about exercise helping with my daily functioning and making the quality of my life better; because there is no doubt that it would help relieve some of my aches and pains; and I would probably have more energy and feel better overall. I do the treadmill on a somewhat regular basis, but I need to do it all or most days, and I also need to add core strengthening work and some weight training for my upper body. I get overwhelmed just thinking about all of that at once, so I need to somehow break it down so that it is realistic and doable. Any advice? I truly value your input. How is your knee pain today (in 2021), by the way?

I'm not sure who received the vaccine first in Ohio. I know that some health care workers, and I am assuming first responders, got it early on. And my parents, who are 91 and 86, received their first dose in late January. Most teachers became eligible when it hit 65+ or 60+. It has most recently been ages 60 and up, plus some with genetic conditions, including my daughter, who has Spina Bifida. I figured 55+ would be next, which would include my hubby... but, I was pleasantly surprised when they announced yesterday that, starting this Thursday, the 11th, ages 50 and over can get the vaccine. That includes me!!! :smug: I am going to message my Oncologist today to see if I can get the vaccine through their medical center.

TREEMBBS: Hello! It is good to hear from you! Hope all is well with you & your family. :hug:

Waving HELLO to Lisa & Pat! :wave: Hope you are both doing well. :hug:

VermontMom 03-09-2021 06:46 PM

Kathleen - hi! :wave: thanks for the good thoughts, I am so terribly vain that I have been thinking more of the visual impact of having the spot removed, than any scary circumstances :rolleyes: :D Oh and my b-day is Dec. 2, we are so close!

That is great that you will hopefully be able to be vaccinated soon!! Getting as many people vaccinated ASAP is so vital to getting back to some sort of normal! Our Governor just announced today that some restrictions will soon be loosened a bit, because already hospitalizations are down, with our older residents vaccinated. My husband's appt is next week; then a 2 week wait til his second shot.

Yes you are right that our weight can do crazy fluctuations and yeah maybe that was an 'up' day. I will make myself be cool and keep to the program, slow and steady..no, wait! Progress, not perfection, right?! :cp:

About exercise. I guess I have been *mostly* consistently exercising for 20-ish years. I tend to kinda stop during the warm months, but then I am pretty active during summer with the lawn work (and wrestling my motorcycle around) I don't know how I have dedicated myself to the workouts, maybe I am very 'task oriented' and I feel I have to finish, once I start. And I have always liked Gilad and his 'boot camp' type of exercise. I know for sure that when I was REALLY gung-ho on trying to look better, for events like our motorcycle rallies (like when i was in my 40's, and still felt okay wearing midriff revealing outfits) when I was able to follow low calories for MONTHS and then working out (at home) with hand held weights, I really saw results...like back muscles you could see, and 'cut' abs. That ship has sailed!! :rofl:however I always appreciated the 'fit' feeling and strength. Except for when I had the "time of the month", I NEVER have low back pain, as my ab and core muscles have held strength. Or maybe it's just from all the years of practice, I can concentrated and work those abs. And with my jobs, either summer or winter, of always being on my feet, I knew I needed the consistent exercise for the strength and endurance. AND with my hurting knees, especially now to try to strengthen the muscles surrounding them. Plus, i want to be one of those ladies that go into their late 60's and beyond, that still heft the dumb bells :strong:

I also have to be aware that my husband is mobility challenged and I have to be able to do things that he can't. That's kind of sobering, not a 'fun' reason but surely a real one. And yes, to try to ward off the inevitable ageing. I have read, even though I can't quote, the amount of muscle mass we lose every year if we don't fight against it. And for flexibility. I still have hope to be a grandma some day and I want to be able to get down on the floor to play with Legos and then be able to get up again :D

If you have the time, check out this lovely lady! https://pahlabfitness.com/ and here is one of her 'functional fitness' workouts https://pahlabfitness.com/fitness-fo...-standing-abs/

I do believe that exercise is that magic pill ! Now if I could only ignore feeling hungry all the time :hungry:

Onto our weather, we were supposed to get into the high 40's today but it was overcast and barely 40 and just darned cold. So it was good that wanted to stay inside, and I was finally inspired to clean out my closet, I got rid of a bag of clothes I never wear (going to donate) and it is tidied up much better.

VermontMom 03-10-2021 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Moesalah:
Nice group

glad you think so! Join in! :welcome:

VermontMom 03-11-2021 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by IBelieveInMe2:
Holly: Sending prayers that your biopsy is benign. 🙏 Please let us know once you get your results.

Just got the call, benign! :dancer: :flow1: Thanks for the prayers Kathleen :hug:

So I had a phone consult with a nutritionist today. (it is free!! how can I resist) I was expecting to get advice on portion sizes, facts about micros (I'm not even sure what those are :rofl:) BUT this was much more psychological. Like delving into feelings from when I was 10 years old and on my first diet! It was very cathartic and I even teared up at one point despite trying not to. She would like me to try something scary, to cut down on how often I weigh, because that can put me feeling so bad. And to try to develop 'self love' and acceptance. And to think of respect for my body, and what one would choose to show respect for one's body. She was really very kind :) and we set an appt for next week.

We had a high temperture of 55 today!!! But winter is returning on Saturday, with a high in the 20's. Ugh :p

IBelieveInMe2 03-15-2021 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by VermontMom:
Just got the call, benign! :dancer: :flow1: Thanks for the prayers Kathleen :hug:

So happy to hear this wonderful news, Holly! :smug: What a relief that must be! Now I'm saying prayers of thanks. 🙏

I just popped on real quick and saw this. I came to check your post for the link to Pahla's fitness videos. I'm gonna try one right now!!! :smug:

VermontMom 03-15-2021 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by IBelieveInMe2:
So happy to hear this wonderful news, Holly! :smug: What a relief that must be! Now I'm saying prayers of thanks. 🙏

I just popped on real quick and saw this. I came to check your post for the link to Pahla's fitness videos. I'm gonna try one right now!!! :smug:

Oh I hope you enjoy her as much as i do! :strong:

When I talk about the next topic, I always want to be sure I don't offend or hurt anyone's feelings..I just have to vent though. There is a small room off our living room that used to be older son's bedroom. Since he left, DH immediately started using it as a catch-all room, which would be okay except he also turned younger son's bedroom into a catch-all. I cleaned up the one off the living room last summer because I couldn't stand it any longer (that I could see it when down here) And it is so difficult because it's ALL dh's stuff, things for the house like electrical, plumbing, home improvements supplies but also hobbies and seasonal decorations..things are purchased and then NEVER used or sometimes even opened..so last summer all I did was *try* to put things in boxes or totes; tried to put same genre stuff together...and now it is even more of a mess :bomb: And the empty boxes!!! this makes me think of 'hoarder'. I took out around 10 empty Amazon boxes. It took all my inner peace to not go into the bad dark space in my mind that this usually does to me. So I did what I felt I needed to do and threw out a bunch of stuff. I don't care.

thank goodness I have this space here to vent!!

VermontMom 03-16-2021 07:11 AM

more therapeutic rambling from me :rolleyes: My "want" is an orderly neat house with room to spare. My fear is approaching age which means possibly becoming a widow within the next 10 years; and being left with a small house that is crammed with stuff that I have to deal with. That brings really bad anxiety. As of now, I am physically able to take care of it; and i know with my energy I can do alot in just one day, so I should tell myself that it would not take years to accomplish, maybe just a few months. And keep up with my exercise so that I will continue to be able to deal with it.


flower123 03-18-2021 10:20 AM

Hi all
read all that was posted. Holly so glad the biopsy came back benign. That must have been scary!
hi to Kathleen and to TREEMBBS.

things are okay here. I continue to gain stress weight. Going to have a bone marrow biopsy first week in April and a cat scan third week in April. Then the oncologist will review and make recommendations re: how to proceed.

sending best to you all as the solstice is soon upon us.

VermontMom 03-19-2021 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by flower123:
Hi all
read all that was posted. Holly so glad the biopsy came back benign. That must have been scary!
hi to Kathleen and to TREEMBBS.

things are okay here. I continue to gain stress weight. Going to have a bone marrow biopsy first week in April and a cat scan third week in April. Then the oncologist will review and make recommendations re: how to proceed.

sending best to you all as the solstice is soon upon us.

Flower/Pat so good to "see" you here! though sobering to think of what you are going through :hug: sending even more good thoughts and love to you!!


IBelieveInMe2 03-19-2021 06:33 PM

Holly: Your phone consult with the nutritionist sounds really interesting! I like the things she asked you to focus on, like feelings, self-love & acceptance, and respect for your body. I didn't know nutritionists brought these things into their program. I bet she will be very helpful. Did you have your 2nd appointment with her yet?

I am scheduled to get my 1st vaccine shot next Friday, March 26th. My daughter got her 2nd one yesterday. Unfortunately, she is not feeling well at all today. We are wondering if it is related to the vaccine. Did your husband get his 1st shot?

I'm so sorry that you are dealing with your husband's clutter in your son's old bedrooms. I know that is a huge source of stress for you. Please feel free to vent all you want! You might remember that clutter is one of my biggest challenges. Always has been. I absolutely hate it myself, but can't seem to conquer it. But I am not offended in the least bit when you vent about your husband's clutter here. I promise. It actually gives me some insight into seeing it more from my husband's perspective. It drives him crazy, too!

In your past several posts, it sounds like your weather is all over the place! Has it settled anywhere now? Our weather in Ohio has been up and down, too, but not as extreme as yours. But I am SO excited that tomorrow is the first day of SPRING!!! :sunny::carrot::dancer:

Sorry, I have to go for now. Going to take our dogs for a walk with hubby before the sun goes down. Dont want to lose my post, so sending now. Will be back later to respond to Pat!

VermontMom 03-19-2021 07:08 PM

Hi Kathleen! :flow1: hope you had a nice walk with doggos and hubs!

Oh gosh I hope your daughter's discomfort ends soon! I have heard that the second dose is what can make one feel kinda not great. Can she take over-the-counter things to help? and hope she can just rest in bed or relax on the couch with a blanket. My husband got his first shot on Wednesday morning and just feels the slight irritation at injection spot. I'm so glad you have an appointment for your first vaccination!!

Yes our weather is all over the place! we had the tease of warm temperatures and then plunged. Today was a high of 22 and windy! That brief warmth made mud which is now frozen ankle-breaking ruts, LOL. We do have about 5 days of warmup approaching :carrot:but truly it is super early for us. We can expect snow ANYTIME during April, typically!! but maybe we will luck out. I tried to rake some of the dog leavings yesterday, all the rake did was make MORE of a mess combined with mud and snow, ugh, LOL. I just have to be patient.

Yes I had the second phone consult with the nutritionist today. And still not a single mention of what to eat, you know, the way you would expect a nutritionist to act! She is definitely trying to educate against the so-called 'diet culture' that we've all followed for all our lives. I told her that her words did resonate with me, that I'm trying to treat myself and talk to myself the way I'd talk to a friend - to be kind and respectful. And I've stayed off the scale because that just makes me frustrated. She gently suggests that I try to have a little something to eat in the mornings, like a piece of fruit or yogurt (which I told her I like). I said I have no desire to eat in the mornings and I truly don't want to eat when I'm not hungry. Because I know I'll eventually be hungry and want to save my calories for then. She spoke of intuitive eating...I thought that was maybe what I do? not eat when I'm not hungry? maybe I need to read up on that . We made an appt for another phone consult in 2 weeks :)

My BIG news is I got a text message from my summer Chef boss, who said the Club WILL open on May 19th!!! I will keep you all informed of when I get to actually start going in, because there will be a TON of cleaning needed.


IBelieveInMe2 03-19-2021 07:54 PM

Pat: It isn't surprising at all that you are gaining stress weight. You are dealing with so much! I'm so sorry you need to have a bone marrow biopsy and a CT scan in April. Have you ever had a bone marrow biopsy? I'm wondering if it is painful. I hope not.

How is the weather where you are? Are you near Holly? I forget. Do you like the warmer weather like me and Holly? It would give you something to look forward to since Spring is here now! :sunny:

Hang in there! I am sending you good thoughts and a big hug! :hug:

IBelieveInMe2 03-20-2021 11:23 PM

Holly: Congratulations! That is wonderful news that the Club will open this summer!!! Yes, please keep us updated on your plans. I'm so happy for you! :smug:

My daughter woke up with a terrible headache yesterday and has also had body aches the past two days. So yes, we have been using over-the-counter meds to help with pain management. She has been mostly resting on the couch both days. Hopefully, she will feel better soon!

I can't believe it was a high of 22° for you yesterday! I've been complaining when we go back down to the high 40s. Today was gorgeous ~ about 57° and sunny :sunny:!!! My son and I took our pups for a walk today. Lucy and little Tully both LOVE walks, and I am always thrilled when my son (just turned 25) goes with us. 💙 Otherwise, he spends a lot of time in his bedroom. Walks are great for all of us! :smug:

So glad you are getting a lot out of your sessions with the nutritionist. She sounds terrific! Please keep sharing what you learn with us if you don't mind. It is so interesting and useful information for all of us.

VermontMom 03-21-2021 01:23 PM

Kathleen - Oh gosh I hope your daughter feels better soon! :( Sounds just like the uncomfortable symptoms that alot of people are reporting . Best wishes to her!

that is so great that your son likes to go on the doggy walks with you! I know young men of that age can be quite tempermental...our younger son was like that for a while...how nice to have your son with you for that nice activity!

I did something I really shouldn't have , I just could not keep away from getting on the scale and the result plummeted me down again :( so hard that you can try to eat right, no junk, try the intuitive eating thing and STILL not lose anything in over 2 weeks. Trying hard to treat myself as I would a good friend but it's getting hard!!!

And now that I have a definite time frame of when to go back to work, I NEED to do things around here, since I have such freedom of my days. I really could not do some when it was so cold, because one of the 'disaster rooms ' is unheated; and our back covered porch (storage) is also unheated . But with some warming temps, I thought I could start; but extremely frustrated and sad trying to make sense of one of the disaster area rooms, I went in this morning just to try to make a path and I am just overcome by finding items never even opened for projects that were never started and probably never will be. This is the first time in a long time I really feel like bawling . I can NOT proceed without husband's help..if we could start by setting up separate labeled containers, just commit to 2 hours at first, like if he would hand me things and I would start bins that were "Electrical" "Plumbing" "Hand Tools" "Small wares" stuff like that, but he will not. Ugh. sorry for the whining!

flower123 03-21-2021 04:09 PM

Hi Holly and Kathleen.
Kathleen so sorry your daughter has been suffering with the second vaccination. I was told that a strong reaction indicates a strong immune system. Hope she’s feeling better today. I understand what you are saying re clutter. I too have clutter. Especially since covid and leukemia. But I have great respect for those who don’t have that tendency. You asked if Holly and I live near each other. Same state but i live in the western area of Vermont. You asked if I previously had a bone marrow biopsy. Yes I had one in October when I was in the hospital. The biopsy was positive. I’ve asked for as much pain killer as they can give to me during the procedure. I can take Tylenol for a few days after it’s done. And if needed I have stronger pain killers at home. Waiting for the results of the biopsy and scan will be challenging. Even now, the not knowing is difficult. Having this during a pandemic while living alone is interesting, to put it mildly.

Holly I’m so happy for you that you get to go back this spring to begin the job you love. That’s great news!!! Sorry that the clutter saga with your husband continues. Interesting he’s so resistant to decluttering with your help. I’d be beyond thrilled to have someone help me declutter. But I think my attachment to things may be a lot less than his. Your nutritionist sounds great. Addressing psychological aspects of eating. Did you know that there is a little known genetic condition where two of the symptoms are depression and not wanting to eat breakfast? It’s not a scary condition. Not at all. Manifestations are only psychological. For me, run of the mill depression. My cousin in Oregon and I have it. Both of us were diagnosed by naturopaths.

the weather is warmer. Two days this coming week we may break a record high. And it will be sunny. I’m looking forward to going for a walk around my little neighborhood. Gaining weight continues to be an issue. Over 20 lbs mostly since October. Hope you both have a great week.

VermontMom 03-21-2021 09:45 PM

Flower/Pat - you always are so insightful and give such thoughtful answers. And you are so brave to be going through this alone. Yes..you don't have any choice..but you are doing it!! I hope that the people giving you treatment know that you are handling this by yourself. I'm not sure how they could help but it seems that they would be even more empathetic to someone in that position. All good thoughts, prayers and hope to you!

flower123 03-27-2021 03:29 AM

Holly thank you for the words. The oncology hematology dept at the UVM hospital is not well run. There is one very caring person there. He’s the caseworker. If I call there even for something "urgent" the nurse is non responsive. So it’s quite challenging. I have to turn to my regular Dr office if I need help. But I had good news from my herbalist who "sees". Progress is being made. So that’s great.

when do you start your summer job? Do you know yet? I’m imagining this is going to be such a boost for you. Getting back in the groove of what you love to do, what you are so gifted at doing. I’m very happy for you. Thursday's high was 72 degrees here. A long awaited boost. Hope you enjoyed the warmer weather.

hope you, Kathleen and anyone else reading this have a great weekend.

VermontMom 03-27-2021 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by flower123:
But I had good news from my herbalist who "sees". Progress is being made. So that’s great.

Flower/Pat that is REALLY great news to hear!! :cheer2: :dancer::flow1: I only wish the dept and others there were caring but very good that the caseworker is. So I will bless the positive news from your herbalist :crossed: And be thinking of you and how difficult to manage what is going on with you, in addition to being so secluded because of Covid. Really tough situation but you are tougher!! :hug:
About my job - all I heard is that they plan to open Wed. May 19th, but don't know what the operating rules will be at this time. But since the kitchen was never opened last year i can imagine it will be hella dirty and a ton of cleaning needed, so hopefully i will be doing that in early May.
Hey did you get crazy winds yesterday afternoon? or the thunderstorm? we had one rumble of thunder, then rain; and wind gusts later that blew lawn chairs, flower pots and all kinds of crap all over into the woods!

Yes I DID enjoy our long stint of sunny :sunny: WARM weather!! I said to my husband that, in our 35 years of living here, we have NEVER had all the snow gone at the end of March. I realize we have the whole month of April coming which is usually 40's as highs and variable snow...but since I have been able to start on the yard stuff it is great. Raking, taking care of the poor dead plants that I didn't do last fall, and just the general clean up. But it is always so wonderful to me to say Hi to the perennials; peppermint, lemon balm, the pansies/violas that self-seeded, shasta daisies, black-eyed susans, the red tips of the peonies emerging, oh and the crazy-looking early rhubarb! I've been able to tackle small areas and try to accomplish them so it gives a good feeling instead of the overwhelming 'where do I start'.

So, I have an appt with a therapist this week. I have to admit that since turning 60, I have had alot of anxiety and fears about the future. and need someone to tell me how to manage those thoughts. I called my health insurance plan, and got a 'customer service rep' who could not figure out if therapy will be paid for...she said one thing, then another, and when I tried to confirm, it was still confusing after asking 2 more times to repeat. So I *think* I have a $30 co-pay. I was so thrilled that the talks with the nutritionist are free, that I thought the suggested therapy would be also. oh well. I also realize that even though I love that youtube exercise lady I recommended, she does not push me hard enough. I barely break a sweat and I think I need to, to generate any cardio health. So I am cruising youtube looking for other instructors.

Hello to Kathleen, Lisa, Treembs, and any others who are maybe listening! hey Coop are you out there :)

IBelieveInMe2 03-28-2021 01:32 AM

Pat: I heard the same thing about having a strong reaction to the vaccine meaning you have a strong immune system. Also, I've heard (as I think Holly previously mentioned) that many people have a reaction after the 2nd shot. Thankfully, my daughter is feeling better now, but she was sick for four solid days. I guess it is good from the perspective of her having a strong immune system. I had my first shot this past Friday with no adverse reaction.

I am so glad that you have already requested as much pain killer as they can give you during your upcoming bone marrow biopsy and that you have some strong pain killers at home if needed after the biopsy. It breaks my heart for you that your last biopsy was positive. 😢 I just hate that you have to go through this... and it is so unfortunate that COVID adds isolation and loneliness to the equation. That is terrible that there is only one helpful and caring person at the oncology hematology department at the hospital! You deserve so much better! Please know that we are here for you and cheering
you on every step of the way! :hug: :cheer2:

IBelieveInMe2 03-28-2021 02:08 AM

Holly: Good for you for making an appointment with a therapist! Did you just turn 60 this past December? (Just curious!) I'm sorry you are dealing with anxiety and fear about the future. I really applaud you for reaching out for help. That takes a lot of courage! I hope you will like your therapist. Please keep us updated. Have you had any more sessions with the nutritionist?

You mentioned Pahla, from the YouTube exercise videos for women over 50. I forgot to tell you that I really liked her and the workout I did with her the day I posted about it. It was the "functional" workout for your abs/core. My 21-year-old daughter actually did it with me and liked it, too! :smug: (She has Spina Bifida so had to modify the exercises, but still got in a decent workout.) I read her the part of your post where you said that her videos barely get you breaking a sweat and we were both amazed! My buns hurt so bad when I got out of bed the next morning and for at least two days after that workout!!! :lol: Haha! Yes, I am WAAAAY out of shape!!! I walk on the treadmill and outside regularly, but that is pretty much it, except for some occasional weights and modified push-ups. I really want to start doing Pahla's videos. And my daughter wants to join me! :smug: I like how they are 20 minutes (at least the one we did). Very doable for me! (except that I haven't done one since!):rofl:

Is your weather staying warm for now? We had a gorgeous 70° and sunny day today. :sunny: Hubby & I took the pups for a walk while our daughter joined us on her 3-wheeler low-riding bike. Outdoor walks on sunny days are one of my favorite family activities. ❤

Soon, it will be lake time! ⚓

flower123 03-30-2021 10:56 PM

HollyFinally, the job you love so much. I bet cleaning will be a dedication of love. And by the beginning of May maybe you will have gotten both vaccinations.


Yes, the day/night with the winds. Although we didn’t have them as strong in the champ. valley. We had thunder and lightning. But escaped damage. And Thursday it will snow! I think we will have maybe around 3 inches. But they are predicting a lot more in the mountains. Well, it’s part of April in Vermont. We just had a great and unusual reprieve last week. I heard on the weather report that the amount of snow at the stake of MT Mansfield is way lower than normal. Amazing that you have no snow left where you are. This time of year we know whatever snow falls will be short lived. Then visions of flowers dance in our heads :carrot:I found crocus in full bloom in my garden last week. Very surprised!

I’m sorry if the woman at the insurance company is correct and you would have a $30.00 copay. Hoping she was wrong. Are you eligible for VHAP? They used to have GREAT coverage. It’s based on annual income. When I was eligible for Medicare VHAP of course dropped me. But it was great coverage. Whew, that was a long reply.

Kathleen so glad your daughter is past the vaccine reaction. Sorry she went through so many days of it. Re: your lack of reaction from the first injection, I think that’s fairly normal. Not necessarily indicative of immune system. I’m impressed that you and your daughter are exercising together. That’s great! And all three of you are taking walks or biking. Healthiest exercise IMO. Great for mind body and spirit. Finally, Thank you for the kind words re what I’m going through, so alone. I’m grateful for your and Holly's support. It means a lot to me.


On Monday I have the bone marrow biopsy. Then I wait for the results. I’m going to try to get the info before the meeting scheduled for April 28th. There’s also a CAT scan scheduled forApril 19th. So it’s going to be a time of increased anxiety.

Hopping you both, and all others reading here have a good week. <3


VermontMom 04-02-2021 05:08 PM

April thread here https://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/dep...ml#post5431503


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