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Wk 3 and gained 2 lbs!!! Help!
It's wk 3 of atkins for me. My wkly weigh in is up 2 lbs!! I've been doing induction the whole time. Here's the skinny:
breakfast: 1/2 choc/pb atkins bar; 2 cups coffee lunch: salad with chicken, blue cheese or leftover dinner, low-carb soup; diet soda - 2-3 cups snack: 2 sugar free reese peanut butter cups or york peppermint pattie (sugar free) 16 oz diet soda, 8 oz water dinner: mom's crazy cabbage, seafood bisque soup or other entree; 16 oz soda; 4 oz water. For wk 4, my plan is to completely cut out soda and replace with herbal tea, crystal light, water...I'll see if this works. Also, I'm probably a day or two from my "special time of the month":^:...maybe it's water weight gain???:( I certainly hope so. I do feel thinner, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me...the scale doesn't lie...I don't care what people say..I've never known a size 6 woman to weigh 200lbs! Just so frustrated!!! Joyce:?: |
How many calories are you getting in? You may not be getting enough and your body could be going into starvation mode. Looking at your menu doesn't look like it is enough calories, good luck
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I think your snag is the Atkins bar and the peanut butter cups. They actually have sugar alcohol carbs that are probably stalling you. Cutting out the soda is a good idea (unless it is diet rite or diet coke spenda version) and add a lot more water. I try to stay away from quick packaged low carb products and cook my own veggies, soups and the like. Good Luck!
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You might want to add more protein. It looks like you are eating low carb food but not enough protein.
For breakast you might have some type of egg, and protein. Also, for snack you might want to add string cheese, and some type of protein. Add lots and lots of water, try and stay away from soda any kind. |
the atkins bars, and the sugar free candy is what is doing it. Cut those out, and you should be fine. Id also cut out the soda if possible and drink 64oz of water a day.
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Joyce,
Sorry to hear about your 2 lb weight gain. I know it can be very frustrating. In looking over your menu, there are several factors here that could be causing you not to lose. Have you ever looked at the back of the label on 1 of those Atkins bars and been totally confused?? On the front label it says 2 net carbs....but....turn it over and it says 22 total carbs & 10 grams of fiber....that calculates to 12 net carbs doesn't it? So...how does Atkins Nutritionals conclude 2 net carbs you ask. Well....they claim there are 0 grams sugar alcohols in those bars....but....they are deducting for Glycerine...and...guess what Glycerine is....a SUGAR ALCOHOL!!! They also contain milk, soy & peanuts....none of which are on the acceptable foods list for Induction. So...that 1/2 of bar you are eating for breakfast, is really 6 net carbs. Coffee can be another culprit. According to Dr. Atkins it can provoke cravings & cause you to overeat. Diet soda's are another no-no, as most of them contain aspartame & other chemicals no one can pronounce. I am not sure if you realize the carb counts on those sugar-free Reese's peanut butter cups or the peppermint patties. ONE (1) of those sugar-free peppermint patties contains 9.3 carbs!!! A serving (5 pieces) of the Reese's peanut butter cups has 24 carbs!!! Not to mention these products are heavily laden with sugar alcohols! Joyce, you may want to re-read the chapter on Induction in Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution. Eat ONLY the foods on the acceptable foods list. 12-15 of your 20 carbs per day should be coming from the acceptable vegetables & salad. You should be drinking at least eight (8) 8 oz. glasses per day of water. Snacks should be things like string cheese, hard boiled eggs, deviled eggs, tuna salad, chicken salad. Induction is about clean eating & unproccessed foods. Done correctly, it will break your addiction to sugar. I agree with the others here....dump the Atkins bars, the sugar free candies , the diet soda. Decaf herbal tea's are fine. Crystal Light is another story...it contains Maltodextrin & aspartame...my advice would be to stay away from that as well. I hope this helps! All the best to you!!!:hug: |
Thanks all for your suggestions. But I have a question about sugar alcohols as I sit here reading my nearest and dearest reese's & peppermint patty labels its reads: York Peppermint Patty (sugar free):"total carb = 28g; dietary fiber = 1 g; sugar alcohols = 26g" - that would leave 2g of carbs per 3 pieces. Reeses Peanut butter Cups (sugar free): "total carb 24g; dietary fiber = 5g; sugar alcohols = 17g" leaving 2g carbs per 5 pieces. On the bottom of the label it goes on to read: "Sugar Alcohols (Lactitol and Maltitol - sugarsubstitues) are slowly metabolized carbohydrates that generally cause only a small rise in blood glucose levels."
So what actually is wrong with sugar alcohols while on induction??? why about it slows/stalls weight loss progress. I feel like I need something...I have decided to cut out diet soda for a week...after that, I will try the splenda diet sodas but in more moderation. I know I need to drink a **** of alot more water...so I am going to increase that. To be honest, I think 8 glasses a day will take some time to work up since I hate the taste of water and to drink it, I must literally force myself. My coffee, I've already cut down to 2 cups a day...best I can do. Breakfast is a challenge for me as I think I'm alergic to eggs...it happened to me when I turned 30 yrs old. Suddenly, whenever I eat eggs, I hurl chunks...seriously though...almost immediately...even the smell makes me nautious. Any alternative breakfast suggestions. I'm gonna do this...one way or the other. As I write this message sitting here bloated and severely PMSing...I am praying its the water retention from that.....signed confused and disgusted....but hanging in there, cuz I'm no quitter! |
you go girl, as far as the water I was the same way I would be lucky if I had 1 class a week now I drink about 64oz or more the only way I can drink it is if its ice cold, also you can try adding those flavor drink things 2 your water, they say only 2 have a few of those a day but that might help you get a few more servings of water in,
you just need 2 get in the mind set that you need 2 do this the water is going 2 help a lot w/your weight loss, good luck, |
Originally Posted by bambifox: For example, from the numbers you are quoting for the York Peppermint Patties & the Reese's Peanut Butter Cups...sugar alcohols are being deducted. For example, the York Peppermint Paties have a total carb count of 28..there is 1 gram of fiber and 26 grams of sugar alcohols...that is how they arrive at 2 net carbs per 3 pieces. Whether or not you deduct sugar alcohols as part of net carbs, when its all said & done, depends on how sugar alcohols effect YOU personally. If they are causing you to gain, you might want to think twice about deducting them. In the case of the peppermint patties, that means the carb count minus the fiber would be 27 carbs for 3 pieces. Leenie posted 2 excellent articles regarding sugar alcohols that you may want to read that explain it very well. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/show...07&postcount=6 http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/show...01&postcount=4 You might also want to read these: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ead.php?t=6768 http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ead.php?t=6780 I hope this will help you have a better understanding of sugar alcohols. All the best to you!! |
Thanks Jerseygyrl for the links...I'm gonna check them out. So far, though...I am staying in Ketosis (I check everyday), so the sugar alcohols must not be the culprit. I have a sneaky suspicion that its my water intake and the fact that I'm PMSing. We'll see...my next weigh-in in next Saturday...I've already cut out the soda...I made it through my first day...YEAH!!!!, we'll see if that helps. Joyce
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Joyce,
I've been thinking about your dilema. Perhaps Atkins is too restrictive of a plan for you since you seem to want to hold on to your sugar-free treats. You might want to consider a plan like South Beach that permits some sugar-free products made with sugar alcohols, as well as diet soda (caffeinated, limited to 1-2 servings per day on Phase 1) and powdered drink mixes. South Beach does not count calories or carbs but be aware that they do count so exercising portion control to acheive healthy weight loss is important. Your portion sizes are not limited unless otherwise indicated. Foods to Enjoy PROTEIN BEEF Lean cuts, such as: Eye of Round Ground beef:· Extra Lean (96/4)· Lean (92/8)· Sirloin (90/10) Pastrami, lean Sirloin Steak Tenderloin Top Loin Top Round POULTRY, skinless Cornish hen Turkey bacon (2 slices per day) Turkey sausage (low-fat, limit to once per week) Turkey and chicken breast SEAFOOD All types of fish and shellfish PORK Boiled ham Canadian bacon Loin Tenderloin VEAL Chop Cutlet, leg Top round LAMB (Remove all visible fat) Center Cut Chop Loin LUNCHMEAT Fat-free or low-fat only MEAT SUBSTITUTES (SOY BASED) Bacon - Limit to 2 slices per day Burger - < 6 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion Chicken Patties & Nuggets - < 6 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion Hot Dogs - < 6 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion Sausage Patties - Limit 1 patty per day Seiten Soy Crumbles - 1/4 cup (2 oz) suggested serving Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup for a protein snack is suggested serving Tempeh 1/4 cup suggested serving Tofu All varieties, 1/2 cup suggested serving Yuba (Bean Curd or Sheet) CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT) American Cheddar Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free Cream cheese substitute, dairy-free Feta Mozzarella Parmesan Provolone Ricotta String Swiss EGGS The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired. MILK/DAIRY (2 -3 cups allowed daily, including yogurt) Low-fat milk (fat-free and 1%) Fat-free 1/2 & 1/2 (less than 2 tablespoons) Low-fat plain soy milk (4 grams of fat or less per serving) 1% or fat-free buttermilk Fat-free plain yogurt BEANS/LEGUMES (Start with 1/3 - 1/2 cup serving) Adzuki Beans Black Beans Black-eyed peas Broad Beans Butter Beans Cannelloni Beans Chickpeas or Garbanzo Great Northern Beans Italian Beans Kidney Beans Lentils Lima Beans Navy Beans Pigeon Peas Pinto Beans Soy Beans Split Peas White Beans VEGETABLES (May use fresh, frozen or canned without added sugar) Artichokes Asparagus Broccoli Bok Choy Brussels Sprouts Cabbage Capers Cauliflower Celery Chayote Chipotle Collard Greens Cucumbers Eggplant Fennel Green Beans Hearts of palm Jicama Kale Leeks Lettuce (All varieties) Mushrooms (All varieties) Mustard Greens Nopales Okra Onions Parsley Peppers (All varieties) Pickles - Dill or artificially sweetened Radicchio Radishes (All varieties) Rhubarb Sauerkraut Scallions Sea Vegetables Snow peas Spinach Sprouts Squash, Spaghetti Squash, Summer· Yellow· Zucchini Swiss Chard Tomato Tomato Juice Turnip Greens Vegetable Juice Cocktail Water Chestnuts Watercress Wax Beans Zucchini NUTS AND SEEDS (Limit to one serving per day as specified) Almonds - 15 (Dry roasted recommended) Brazil Nuts - 4 Cashews - 15 (Dry roasted recommended) Flax Seed - 3 TBS (1 oz) Macadamia - 8 (Dry roasted recommended) Peanut Butter, Natural = 2 TBS Peanuts, 20 small (May use dry roasted or boiled) Pecans - 15 (Dry roasted recommended) Pine Nuts (Pignolia) - 1 ounce Pistachios - 30 (Dry roasted recommended) Pumpkin Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Sesame Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Sunflower Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Walnuts - 15 (Dry roasted recommended) FATS/OILS The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily: Oil, canola Oil, olive Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated): Corn Enova Grapeseed Peanut Safflower Sesame Soybean Sunflower Other Fat Choices: Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleischmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance Mayonnaise - Regular or Low Fat Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS Salad Dressing - Use those < 3 gms sugar per serving SPICES AND SEASONINGS All spices that contain no added sugar Broth Espresso powder Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others) Horseradish sauce I Can't Believe It's Not Butter! Spray Lemon Juice Lime Juice Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white) Salsa (check labels for added sugar) Use the following toppings and sauces sparingly (check labels for added sugar and MSG) Hot Sauce Miso - 1/2 TBS Shoyu - 1/2 TBS Soy Sauce - 1/2 TBS Steak Sauce - 1/2 TBS Tamari Worcestershire Sauce - 1 TBS Whipped Topping (Light) - 2 TBS SWEET TREATS (Limit to 75 calories per day) Candies, hard, sugar-free Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar Cocoa powder, baking type Fudgsicles, no sugar added Gelatin, sugar-free Gum, sugar-free Popsicles, sugar-free Some Sugar Free Products may be made with sugar alcohols (isomalt, lactitol, mannitol, sorbitol or xylitol) and are permitted on the SBD. They may have associated side effects of GI distress (abdominal pain, diarrhea & gas) if consumed in excessive amounts. SUGAR SUBSTITUTES Acesulfame K Fructose (needs to be counted as Sweet Treats, Caloric Limit) Nutrasweet (Equal) Saccharin (Sweet & Low) Sucralose (Splenda) Whey Low BEVERAGES Decaf Coffee and Tea Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free sodas and drinks Herbal teas (peppermint, chamomile, etc.) Milk (1% or fat-free) and soymilk (low-fat plain). See MILK/DAIRY. Sugar-free powdered drink mixes Vegetable Juice Note: caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added are allowed, but limited to 1 - 2 servings per day. Foods to Avoid BEEF Brisket Liver Jerky Prime rib Other fatty cuts Rib steaks POULTRY Chicken, wings and legs Duck Goose Poultry products, processed Turkey, dark meat (including wings and thighs) PORK Honey-baked ham Pork rinds VEAL Breast CHEESE Brie Edam Nonreduced fat VEGETABLES Beets Carrots Corn Green peas Potatoes, white Potatoes, sweet Pumpkin Winter squash Yams FRUIT Avoid all fruits and fruit juices in Phase 1, including: Apples Apricots Berries Cantaloupe Grapefruit Peaches Pears STARCHES AND CARBS Avoid all starchy food in Phase 1, including: Bread, all types Cereal Croutons, all types Matzo Oatmeal Rice, all types Pasta, all types Pastry and baked goods, all types MILK/DAIRY Ice cream Milk, whole MISCELLANEOUS No regular ketchup or cocktail sauce No pork rinds - too high in saturated fat No jerky - too high in sugar content BEVERAGES Alcohol of any kind, including beer and wine You might want to give this plan some thought. All the best to you!! |
I would say depends on the atkins bar you are eating. The ones that I often eat are the atkins advantage caramel variety and those don't have any sugar alcohols. They are 8 carb minus the fiber so if you have 1/2 that would be 4. The advantage morning/peanut butter crip ones are also 8 carbs with only one gram of sugar alcohol.
I do agree about your other snack, those sugar free treats are full of sugar alcohol. |
Thanks again Jerseygyrl - I've thought about the Southbeach diet, but when I really looked at the diet restrictions...I found that Atkins would be easier to follow. Without sounding like "I've gotta have it all" (although I wish), I hate fat-free products (which by the way are usually loaded with sugar for taste), I LOVE FAT!, and I loath portions...hey...I've got a hearty appetite. So, Atkins is best for me...I've done it several times in the past...The first time, I followed it by the book...lost 30 lbs in 3 months...just like that...bamm! size 6; the second time, I did add the atkins bar (choco/peanut bar) for breakfast, and in 3 months...bam...size 8; neither time did I exercise at all, but I looked as if I did, because of all the muscle that does lay beyond the fat.
This time, I want it to be different. I really want it to become a lifestyle balance of eating things that I enjoy (thereby making easy to stick with) and regular exercise for the inner and outer me. Okay...okay...okay...you've finally got me...I've stopped the morning Atkins bar for 2 days now..and started having leftover dinner for breakfast (since I can't eat eggs)...but I will have 1-2 pieces of peppermint patty per day and an occasional sugar free ice cream bar that has 5 net carbs but only 1-2 times per week. No alcohol, 2 cups coffee in a.m. and yes, I ditched the soda (sad face). I think I'll just keep trying to tweak the diet and upgrade my exercise to 20 min cardio this week (started today with upgraded cardio) and I'll check back in to let you guys know if it made a change. Thanks again for all your support. Joyce |
Bambifox, I have the same problem with eggs and it does complicate things! My egg problem began about two or three years ago - I was definitely over 30 at the time. All the years I was doing weight watchers I had oatmeal every day for breakfast and only had to confront my egg issue when we ate out. But doing Atkins without eggs does make breakfast more complicated. My favorite breakfast is hamburgers. If we have burgers at night, I grill a bunch of extras and zap them in the morning with some cheese. Lots of time I put mayo on the side and kind of dip them. I was eating sausage a lot, but someone on this board told me to check the carbs and, yes, the precooked sausage had carbs so I stopped that. Lots of time I eat pork leftovers, cold, for breakfast. My husband always comments on the large amounts or meat I make him grill on weekends, but I seldom throw any away. Right now my fridge has a casserole of shedded chicken cooked with canned tomatoes (dinner for a couple of days), enough grilled chicken breasts to put one on my salad every day for lunch and some boneless ribs for breakfast for a day or two. I don't really feel deprived, except for bread. I do miss bread.
I went back and forth with the diet coke. This time I decided to try and give it up, but I do drink it on special occasions. We go out to eat with a group most Fridays and they all drink beer. The diet coke makes it easier to not drink beer. During the week I drink flavored water. No calories, no carbs, just a little carbonation (sp?). It's not ideal, I know, but I don't think it's damaging. I drink plain water with my meals and during my work out, so I get at least three or four glasses in. I've also discovered decaffinated herbal teas. I bought a sampler pack a while ago, so have new ones to try at night. That's been a good thing too. Good luck! But with two successful experiences behind you, you probably don't need it. |
Lynnar - Thanks so much for feeling my agony! That means a bunch...to know that someone else out there struggles too! Today is day 2 with no soda and I gotta tell ya...I'm hurting! Giving up the bread, pasta, mickey dees, cakes, cookies, etc. all combined do not compare to the loss of my diet soda. I'm giving it a week and then I'd better see some results or back to the diet soda I go...I'll just get diet rite or some other splenda sweetened soda! I mean, for goodness sake...I've never heard of someone getting fat because of drinking "diet soda"....sorry, just needed to vent!!!! Thanks. Joyce
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