1200 calorie intake or 1200 net?

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  • Quote: Where does this 1200 number come from ? My brother asked me just a week ago the same thing, every activity you do burns energy, the more active you are the more you will burn on top of your BMR ( and this varies/depends on gender, weight and height ), honestly i'm eating around 3500-4000 cals a day right now, but seeing as how i'm burning through 5000-5500 a day it's no problem. Just have to maintain a deficit.

    Typically i eat around 5 or 6 times a day, keeping the bulk of my intake for late in the evening when i know i will have my cravings, i probably don't go more then 4 hours without having something, still i'm losing weight, i eat probably more now than i did when i was fat, it's just what i eat (cleanly) and regularly that keeps my metabolism burning all the time.

    I should note i'm male but still i could not drop food intake so low, i love food and by varying my intake to match my activity level i have found something i can live with every day, i used to count cals religiously, now i just tally them in my head as the day progresses, have most things memorized.
    Quote: I realize the numbers will fall due to gender and size, still by dropping cals so low you are canabalizing muscle, muscle churns through cals like nothing else, you want to maintain/build muscle, eat tons of protein, make your body burn all the time.

    Women seem to think there is nothing to it for a man, i personally put in anywhere from 75 to 100 miles of exercise every week on top of my 8 hour physically intense job including all lifes incidentals, at the end of each day i have a hard time dragging myself to bed, i've earned my weight loss through sheer determination , intelligent planning and fortitude. If i was not so active i would probably need to stay around 2000 - 2500 to lose slowly.

    There is no reason one has to eat that few of cals unless you are absolutely sedentary, still you won't be much healthier even if you lose weight.
    It's times like this when I wish this site had a "LIKE" button!

    I AM a woman and I completely and totally agree with everything you said (especially as highlighted above). I think instead of just saying things like MEN lose weight much easier...or comparing male weight loss to female weight loss is like comparing aliens to cornbread, we should actually look at the habits of men who want to lose weight as opposed to women.

    First thing that I've personally noted is that men don't seem to DRASTICALLY reduce their calories...rather they seem to increase their activity and maintain a higher calorie range. Perhaps this is what enables Men to retain so much of their "hard earned" muscle and lose fat more efficiently?

    Of course, we know that men have more muscle (naturally) and therefore higher basal metabolism's than woman, but if it were soooo EASY for men to lose weight, would there be any overweight men...some who are even morbidly obese? I think not.

    OP...sorry I can't answer your original question because I ate on avg between 1600-1800 cals while losing weight. I can say that I agree with the poster above when he says that varying your calories with your activity level may be a wiser choice.
  • Quote: It's times like this when I wish this site had a "LIKE" button!

    I AM a woman and I completely and totally agree with everything you said (especially as highlighted above). I think instead of just saying things like MEN lose weight much easier...or comparing male weight loss to female weight loss is like comparing aliens to cornbread, we should actually look at the habits of men who want to lose weight as opposed to women.

    First thing that I've personally noted is that men don't seem to DRASTICALLY reduce their calories...rather they seem to increase their activity and maintain a higher calorie range. Perhaps this is what enables Men to retain so much of their "hard earned" muscle and lose fat more efficiently?

    Of course, we know that men have more muscle (naturally) and therefore higher basal metabolism's than woman, but if it were soooo EASY for men to lose weight, would there be any overweight men...some who are even morbidly obese? I think not.

    OP...sorry I can't answer your original question because I ate on avg between 1600-1800 cals while losing weight. I can say that I agree with the poster above when he says that varying your calories with your activity level may be a wiser choice.

    I understand both [i.e., Resolute & Joyfulloser] of your opinions on this, but I don't think either of you are considering that there are many, many women who do not build muscle as easily as men or as other women do. Joyfulloser, I tremendously admire your success and your positive attitude, but from past posts I've seen, you seem to be someone who builds muscle well. I mean, from what I've read in your posts, you built lots of muscle just running and doing some pull-ups. I could NEVER build significant muscle without some sort of intense weight-lifting routine. Even when I did the latter, I still had a pretty high body fat % because that's just the way I'm made. I'm an endomorph---tendency toward storing fat, curviness, etc.

    Also, both of you are tall. I'm 5 ft. 3. According to the average of several calorie calculators I've checked online, I will only be able to eat about 1600 calories to maintain a weight of 140 lbs. (which, you must admit, is definitely not low for my height).

    So, while I do not doubt your own experiences, there are many women who have little choice but to drop to 1200 calories if they want to lose weight. I have decided to stay to about what my maintenance calories for my goal weight will be (1400 most days). Even though I will lose it slower (probably less than a pound a week), I'm not in a big hurry.
  • 1200 cals is not a Magic Number.

    I think the point is that you have a CHOICE on how you want to lose weight. You can reduce cals creating a deficit. You can reduce cals and increase activity. You can increase activity. We all have the choice.

    So if you do not want to put the time in that Resolute puts into exercising (he has earned every single of his 200 lb plus loss, it was not just given to him because he is male), you can choose to eat lower cals. If you do not want to eat lower cals, you can choose to do more exercise. I personally choose to do a little of both, and guess what? It works for me. The key is to find what works for you and WORK IT!
  • Quote: I realize the numbers will fall due to gender and size, still by dropping cals so low you are canabalizing muscle, muscle churns through cals like nothing else, you want to maintain/build muscle, eat tons of protein, make your body burn all the time.

    Women seem to think there is nothing to it for a man, i personally put in anywhere from 75 to 100 miles of exercise every week on top of my 8 hour physically intense job including all lifes incidentals, at the end of each day i have a hard time dragging myself to bed, i've earned my weight loss through sheer determination , intelligent planning and fortitude. If i was not so active i would probably need to stay around 2000 - 2500 to lose slowly.

    There is no reason one has to eat that few of cals unless you are absolutely sedentary, still you won't be much healthier even if you lose weight.
    I have to go to the gym every day and do 45 minutes of cardio with strength training, on top of eating no more than 1250 cals a day (1300 and above seems to stall me out) just to lose SLOWLY. Soooo, I'd take being able to eat twice as much food if I was losing at the same rate :P