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Old 02-27-2011, 09:07 AM   #1  
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Default Do you trust the calorie counting apps/trackers?

I was just having this discussion with a friend of mine last night. A few of my friends are WW, and a few are calorie counters. I just started a few weeks ago, and I'm definitely a calorie counter. I use an app on my iPod touch to journal, keep track and set goals for myself, and for me, it is an indispensable tool. I honestly don't think I could do this without it.

My friend, who does WW, really doesn't believe in the calorie counting apps/programs. She thinks those make it too easy to cheat or be inaccurate about eating. Now I know its comparing apples and oranges, and people should do whatever works best for them, but it made me think. Does she have a point? Do you think that using an app or program makes it easier to "be lazy", guesstimate or cheat at eating? I think its so convenient that it makes staying on plan almost an afterthought to me, so for me its perfect. What are your thoughts?

ETA: my friend has nothing against calorie counting as practice, she just doesn't like using an established app or program to keep track of it.

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Old 02-27-2011, 09:21 AM   #2  
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Fitday is a godsend. If I had to track points, I would never be losing weight. Erm, how many points are in this? This? What about this? To me that's twice the math! For me, Fitday is particularly useful for meals prepared with fats-- without it, I would completely miss counting the calories in the olive oil I used to cook my chicken or whatever...

Having said that, I aim for a range of calories (1200-1400) daily because I know that Fitday doesn't precisely know what I ate, and I can sometimes be casual about measuring. But it's close enough for my purposes.

One thing the tracker apps do for me is to help me cut down on "random nibbles" of DH's or DD's food-- because I don't want to run to Fitday to log a half of a chicken nugget. So, I don't eat it!

So, even though I don't have laser precision around my daily intake, it's close enough that the weight still comes off...and that's good enough for me!

But if points work for your friend, more power to her!

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Old 02-27-2011, 09:25 AM   #3  
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I do prefer to use the nutritional info on the pack of the actual foods but if I can't access it I sure do rely on caloriecount and other online trackers, I love them. Do you mean websites too or just programmes?

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Old 02-27-2011, 11:38 AM   #4  
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I have LS app and an acct there online. I try to always go off what the package says and enter that. Sometimes though, you just have to wing it! I'll look at several different entries and pick one and move on. LOL
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In general, yes. I've used Fitday and LoseIt! and lost weight with them.
However, the ones which allow users to contribute entries can be really out of whack. Some users are waaaaaay out to lunch (so to speak) on calorie counts!

It's like any other reputable method for losing weight. If I stick to it, it works.

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I would never have lost my weight without using a computer food journal
to track my food every day, and that is also the secret of my
maintaining my weight loss for the past 5 years.
This has been my most effective weight-loss tool.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:36 AM   #7  
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No I don't See the thread I started: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/calo...your-help.html

As I mention in that thread, because I live in a developing country about 90% of the food I eat is unpackaged and unprocessed, which is awesome in some respects but makes counting calories accurately virtually impossible.

That said, I am still sticking with it because it at least helps me get an idea of what I'm eating. I'm also trying to reduce my portion sizes by at least 30% so even if my calorie counter (3FC won't let me post the program I use but it's one that hasn't been listed yet in this thread) is underestimating what I'm eating, the reduction in portion size gets it closer to accurate.

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I use an online counter which is off usually by 10-30 calories on the plus end of things for most of the foods I intake. I keep a separate written journal with actual amounts as a backup. At this point, my body has become used to the calories I have per meal so I'm able to physically judge when I've "overeaten". I trust the counts in my personal food journal versus the online one, but I enjoy the graphs and suggestions the online one provides in regards to specific nutrient overruns or deficits.
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Only 1% of the time. I don't think they're accurate so I go by the labels. I wish fruits had labels lol. I'm real anal about my calorie counting lol.
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I use labels, and keep a spreadsheet on my computer where I track my food. I used to use livestrong, but I felt like the calories on there were sometimes very different than the label. Also, calories for, say, a tuna sandwich will be MUCH different depending on the way it's prepared. Livestrong puts it at 550 calories, but I can make it for under 340.
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I address this issue on a separate post in my diet blog but this is a recap of what I have found out to be true for me:

I read the actual labels on the actual food that I am eating. Here is the one caveat on that though. For example, I have noticed that although the labels may say that there are 8 servings in the whole package, often more than not, there are only 6(for example). So, what I do is this formula:

Let's say the frozen boneless skinless chicken breasts are 100 calories each.
The package says there are approximately 8 servings enclosed. If there are only 6 pieces then I multiply 8(what the label says)x100=800 and then divide by 6 (what actually is in the package)=133 calories per piece instead of the 100 calories listed as the calories for each piece. 33 calories may not be a big deal but depending on how many items you eat during the day, it could add up to several hundred extra calories that could make a difference in your weight lose results.

Also, there is the issue of uniformity; as in, it doesn't always happen. So, if those same 6 pieces of chicken breast are not the same size then you will need to know what 3-4 oz looks like ( the size of a deck of playing cards) and determine just how much you are eating as a serving.

You can even take it further and weigh each piece with a digital scales. They cost around $65-80. I have an older WW balance scales I use but I find it kind of messy and it does involve keeping it clean from added bacteria so I don't really use it much. I used to work in a deli many years ago and in order to accurately weigh food, you also have to first weigh the paper wrapping or container first (called the tare) and then subtract that from the additional food item so that you get an accurate pricing. I've digressed here some but the point that I am making is that unless you understand weights and measurements in at least a basic way, you can easily miscalculate calories.

I also use an online calorie counter and a standard calorie counter book as cross references usually when I am eating something from scratch, a whole food that normally doesn't come with a nutritional label or when I am eating out. Some restaurants now have nutritional information posted within the restaurant, some even have it on their websites but also some restaurants do not.

When I eat out, I make a mental note of how the food tasted for how it was prepared. For example, if it seems to have an oily texture I automatically add 120 calories(the approximate calories for 1 TB vegetable oil) for the portion that I have eaten. I also take into consideration that the food might have been prepared with MSG and/or added sodium so often I will try to find comparable foods in those above mentioned resources and then add the sodium content as well. Between added oils and sodium, an innocent seemingly healthy meal can be shocking in added calories and sodium, which will definitely impact your next day weigh in, if nothing else.

I do weigh and measure my food that I eat at home. I start out with standard measuring cups and spoons. When I transfer them to a specific glass, dish or bowl then from that point on I use those as my measurement guide. I know that a lot of people use smaller plates but unless the restaurant you are dining at has those you won't have your visual cues to help you judge how much you are eating so that is the reason why I stick to a standard dinner plate.

Lastly, if I am uncertain about the actual calories I will estimate on the high side. It takes a little practice but it really doesn't take a lot of time out of my day. I waste time doing a lot of other things that have less impact on my weight lose than this.

Last summer, I began following the Biggest Loser food plan. It was the first time that I also took into account the macronutrients breakdown as well. It was the first time that I ever considered the impact of sodium on my weight lose efforts. What an eye opener that was for me.

By making an added effort to eat a balanced macronutrient food plan; ie, a specific amount of carbs, fats, protein, fiber and sodium each day within my allotted calorie range, I have significantly improved my health while I am losing weight. On previous food plans my hair was thinning for example. Since following this food plan, my hair has gotten thicker. My complexion is clearer.

I want to also add that I have discovered that if I increase my daily fiber intake to 35-45 grams coupled with an increase in plain water consumption and lower sodium intake, I can work through a plateau, budge myself to lose a little more weight each week and in general feel more full on "less food". Put simply, I feel I have more control over the outcome. The "mystery" (or so it felt to me before) is no longer there for me.I feel that now when I see my weekly results I can follow the thread back to the beginning of the week and see what I did (or didn't do) to get the results I got. In other words, there is less surprise involved. I pretty much know what the scales are going to say, if I've done my homework.

I always hated calorie counting in the past. It is the one thing that makes my food plan seem like a diet because if I weren't counting calories I essentially eat healthy. Period. 80/20 is the ratio. 80% healthy whole foods/20% pizza, chocolate and Coke. I ain't complaining.

By counting calories I am assured that I am also training myself to recognize and practice portion control, which is an important tool I will need not only to lose weight but to keep it off. So, I vote "Yes" for calorie counting within the perimeters that I just outlined.

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