Selina--first, congrats on being the biggest loser IN SPITE of having a total cow for a MIL. Ugh.

Really, it is your husband's place to stand up for you. I will not say anything intentionally hurtful to my MIL, but I never restrain myself from being honest either (big surprise). I will say, "Wow, I am sure that you would never want to offend me, but that comment is not acceptable, and here is why...." And this goes on for a while until I have to say to DH, "You need to come speak to your mother." Then I let them deal with it.

I have no problem cutting toxic people from my life. I see my MIL as needed only. DH takes the kids to visit, but I just cannot go. My MIL is not evil like yours, just so dimwitted and illogical that it makes me crazy to see someone make such stupid decisions and then wonder why her life is crap.

I would love for your DH to just say to his mom, "She is my wife, and you cannot talk to her like that." Even better if he said, "Mom, the number of children we choose to have is entirely our decision, and your comments on the matter will no longer be accepted."

Just stopping in to say HI....hope you all are doing well. Things are crazy around here, with the holiday right around the corner, and I decided to start decorating early for Christmas. Exercise and food have not been the best, but I'm getting my shoes on in a few min. and doing my bootcamp video. Have a great day ladies~

G'morning ladies! :coffee:

So far there is no talk of the PIL either not coming or coming to Thxgiving. Uggh. She probably will show up carrying too much food (then complaining how tired she is bc she cooked) even when we ask her to just rest and enjoy what we make here. We both hope they choose not to, we never answer the phone. He knows that if that were my parents they wouldn't be allowed here. Why is it so hard for him to stand up to them? I think it has to do with his being the last one, who was like an only child, his brothers were 18, 15, 12 and 10 when he was born and he has a nephew who was around, the same age, who was like a brother. I see how she does him differently. She wasn't mean when he was growing up tho, not to him. They were close, she had more money then and they went on tons of trips together. I think really she is probably mad he isn't her little friend anymore, he has a life and so she resents us who are in his life. And the more kids there, the more to take away from her. She is so hateful he only sees her when he has to. He said she would start fights, verbal, with him when he would come home to visit from college. He said he thinks it's bc she really missed him. Ok!!! But dang, when does she get over it and be nice again??????? The reason I try to find motive for her behavior is that I hope it is fixed one day. That she is normal and friendly. But I know that's stupid bc my SILs have lived with it and it never changed for them. She just will never be happy.

Anyway, I asked about his birth one day bc I like details to pass down, how long it took, what was it like, etc. I know my whole birth story, my mom loves telling all ours. And she was rude and said she just tries to forget it. How sad.

His mom has never liked being a grandma. I personally believe she is mad that her kids grew up and she has no control anymore. I think she loves them and actually does want them around, just without all of us. And my dh said, If we can't all go and enjoy time there, he doesn't want to go. I said, maybe she needs time alone with u, to get all ur attention. And one day he told her I said that. She said, no I'm glad they have lives, I don't need them under foot, or something like that.

There is just no helping the situation. I made handmade queensized quilts one yr for my mom and grandma, so I felt like I should make her one too. It was b4 i had kids (well had 3 teen exchange students but I don't have to do everything for teens, lol.) and she seems to like it enough, altho she did say things that were wrong with it (it needed more tacking but otherwise was fine) and she wears the jacket i made her one yr even now and it's been 8 yrs or more, i wear mine too, lol it's comfy. But one time she said, Oh she is just sucking up, when I made a gift for them. which is so sad. She talks about raising her kids like it was such a job. I love my job then!! She is so different than my mom, who says her greatest accomplishment is her children. She would have had tons if my dad would have wanted more too. And my mom doesn't have money. Just so different.

Anyway, I'm not here to bad mouth anyone. Really. I would love to see it all change and then not have anything bad TO say. She is very smart, knows what is up, doesn't want to change. We need to accept it.. Why does she not just leave others alone? She wants soooo bad to manipulate ppl she can't stand it. I pray I never turn out that way.

We can't wait to have grandkids and great grandkids. So fun!! My son is 6 and has already said he wants lots of kids when he is old like 'dad', lol. But here, we love kids and babies and he knows that's how it is here. They are worth the work. My Dh is really upset by his parent's behavior and said it's like they aren't the same ppl and he almost has to grieve the loss of them even when they are around. Must be very hard. He said they were very kid-oriented when he was small, coached little league, went to all school things.. why not put that same thought into grandkids? At least so u don't hurt ur kids? Much less tell them their kids aren't wanted????

I'm going to stop about her tho. (his dad has always been very good about all our kids, he only recently has begun to talk like her and act like her but he's older and more dependant on her so I think too much time with her has changed him, she is very negative, and he never was.. and she is rude about him, says he's useless. (This man she's been married to for over 55 yrs and who worked every day with no complaints, stayed at the same job for 30+ yrs and worked his way up to make all that money she invested, she was a nurse too but he made the bulk. How can she be like that about him?) (So sad for him. I'm not really mad at him, except when he puts my nephew b4 my kids in everything they are doing, even at my house.. even that is happening more with him, it used to be just her.)

Not really sure how to handle it. I'm sure something will have to give soon tho. DH is very defensive about our kids and if he sees that our kids notice something, that'll be it. (Yes, I've told him he should've done that for me. His solution is that I should stand next to him the whole time she is here, bc he knows she won't be rude to me then.) I swear. The reason I don't cause a big fuss about it is that I think it's hard enough on him to have to hear me about it all the time. I have plenty to say, I've said it to him b4 but just makes it worse for him.

Ok, 210.5 again today. I'm not complaining. (well except about her! but hey, 12 long yrs in two posts? not bad, huh?) LOL. Hmmm, ok, the MIL stories are closed for the week. (unless she does something really bad..lol). I'll shut up now!!!

Hope u all are having a good week. I hope to at least be down to 210.0 by weigh in. When are you all wanting to do the next competition? Just wanna be up to date so I know what's up. I soooo want to be under 200 by Christmas. I'm so excited!!! :dance:

Big hugs, thank you again for listening to me gripe. I love you guys!!! :hug:
Selina

PS I'm confused, one big team?? Just for posts? But red and blue or what?? I am not good with change, Chelle! You will have to guide me there. :) Oh and Chelle, I think you are doing very well considering all that you've had on your plate lately. I rememeber moving, working, school all together. Was hard!!

Oh wow, that last post was waayyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. So sorry. And I promise to stay on topic.. Weight loss. From now on. Seriously.

Thanks

Hi Everyone!

Well, we're off to Disneyworld here soon. The buses leave at midnight. Today, I picked up some high protein cereal bars and some protein drink powder that you add to your water. I'll have these in my tote at all times. I'm trying to plan ahead for a very food tempting weekend. Hopefully, the tons of walking will help me to have a loss for weigh-in on Monday. Hope everyone has a great on-plan weekend. I can't wait to report a great on-plan weekend when I get back late Sunday night/early Monday morning.

Oh gosh I've missed a lot! I can't believe I've barely been on here in a week. So much to do, the days are just flying past.

Things around here have been okay. I'm stressing a lot, so not getting enough sleep. I'm eating okay, but could certainly use some more fruit and veg! I'm happy to be maintaining - anything that isn't a gain is good in my books. I think what I REALLY need is to get my house back under control - during the garbage/recycling strike, things got out of hand because we had nowhere to put our recycling! Even though it ended ages ago, we're still getting reorganised. Once I am in a happy, clutter-free home again, I'm sure I'll have a better go at things. Funny how our environments influence us, eh?

So here's a huuuge catch up, I think I got most everybody!

GirlyGirlSebas - Good for you for sticking on plan while you were away! It can be so tough, eh? I'm the same way with exercise, with the starting slow and ramping it up over time, so I feel ya on that! Have SO much fun at Disney!

Onthetee - Feel better! Congrats on maintaining!

aud - Glad your girls are on the mend!

Azure - We'll miss you, but you've got to make the right decisions for YOU, which it sounds like you're doing. Keep us posted on how you're doing!

Utah - Woo hoo for moving near a gym!

Soon2BFitChick - Oh honey! :hug: What a week for you. You continue to be an inspiration for me - if you can stay on plan through all this, I can get my act together and get on plan! Thanks for the reminder about less often being enough!!

Tina30 - :?: I am so amazed that your sister didn't know she was preggers! What a shock!

Dea - Good luck on your scrapbooking weekend! Sounds like you've planned ahead, so I bet you'll do just great!

Chellez - I hear ya on the finals and stress! I am under a month til I am DONE my degree, and it's crazy busy.

SoulBliss - I am with you on the combining teams for the next round. I think it will be great!

Good morning Bluezers!!!! Go Blue!!

I'm happy to report that the scale said 209.5 this am. My goal for this Sunday (seeing the family, lol) was 209. I might make it! Anyhoo, goal for Nov 30th was 210, guess I passed that up! :dancer: Yay!!!

It's really strange, some days I feel much smaller, others, not smaller AT ALL. Really weird. And you know, 35 lbs lighter than two weeks b4 the challenge started (was 245 mid august) is nice. But it really doesn't help with other issues in life. Being thinner is nice but even when I'm at goal, it doesn't fix pain or hurt or frustration. And to be honest, I feel those pains and hurts more since I'm not distracting myself with the food, but I feel more real, probably more real than I can ever remember feeling in my whole life. Sorta like stopping all the sugar, etc. has made me walk thru to the technicolor of the Wizard of Oz from the black and white version. You know?

Being thinner just doesn't make it all worse. And being heavy like 277 made everything worse for me. Grateful to be on the right track now.

I looked up how many cals I would burn to maintain my weight, maintain my goal weight and maintain a fictional weight, lol. Here is what it showed:

210 --2300 cals a day
177--2100 cals a day
127--1800 cals a day.

I can handle those! I'm eating between 1100-1800 now. LOL. Also there was a thing where you could pull up a goal date and see what u should eat to get to that weight by that date.

Here are answers to some other things I put into it:

You should consume about 1512 calories a day to reach your goal weight of 147 lbs by August 26, 2008. (my 365th day..lol)

You should consume about 1758 calories a day to reach your goal weight of 167 lbs by August 26, 2008.

You should consume about 1388 calories a day to reach your goal weight of 137 lbs by August 26, 2008.

-------------------------so a couple hundred cals a day makes a big difference really, huh?? this all is with light activity. It shows u eating about 300 cals a day more with moderate activity.

Just wanted to share all that. I love little calculator thingys. LOL.
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Practice, I love getting organized! My house hasn't been done right since we moved in last year. We want to take it one room at a time and put things exactly where they go. For now, at least they are all in the right room! Thanks for the hug too. :hug:

Rhonda, Have fun going to play!! I have never been and plan to go when the kids are a bit older. Then go again when my youngest two are old enough. Too cool!! I bet you will show a loss for sure, all that walking is great! :dance:

Chelle, How is it going for you? I know you said you were in a rut. It's hard to do all that u are doing, esp right now near the holidays! Big hug, hope it gets better for you soon and your schedule lightens up some. :hug:

Anna, I know. She drives me nuts and my mom really thinks that she TRIES to mess with me on purpose. Like not just that she is annoying, she sees what she does and now thinks that the woman wants to make me mad each time I see her. Why??? What can come of it all? Hurting her son?? Guess that doesn't matter to her. Uggh! Don't let me get started again. Thanks for the sympathy. :hug:

Hiya to aud, Tina, Denice, Dea, Cat, Sara, Ronda, Rebecca, Utah, Fit and everyone here. Hope you all have a great day!!! :carrot:

Selina

Originally Posted by Soon2BFitChick:
It's really strange, some days I feel much smaller, others, not smaller AT ALL. Really weird.

Originally Posted by Soon2BFitChick:
And to be honest, I feel those pains and hurts more since I'm not distracting myself with the food, but I feel more real, probably more real than I can ever remember feeling in my whole life. Sorta like stopping all the sugar, etc. has made me walk thru to the technicolor of the Wizard of Oz from the black and white version. You know?

YES yes yes I know, on both of those. I feel smaller, but then I look in pictures and go "uh... what?" And dealing with life, instead of snacking it away, is so much more satisfying, even when it is harder and scarier.

Well, ladies today I feel like this --> :moo::moo::moo: I don't know if I woke up on the wrong side of the bed or what, but UGH. I feel fat and useless and frustrated. Somehow I've gone from 195 to 198 in FOUR DAYS?! That can't even be physically possible. I felt SO great yesterday, like I was really on top of things and revitalized to buckle down before the new year... and today I just feel like giving up. Bleh. :(

I hope everyone is having a better day than I am! Take care, all.

Hiya practiceL-Glad you're back online!:hug: Yes the girls are well mended - one of my errands today is to get some more dayung hair dye - that lil pneumonia episode caused quite a patch of new grey roots!:o (Gonna try a "Root Only" mix - cut out a coupon for last Sunday!*finges crossed*)

LOVE your long Posts soontobefittiec! My New Goal is to keep up with your Goals BTW - hoping to drop to 209 soon so we can be the same weight!:dizzy: You are SO inspirational for me - remind me of when I scanned the book about having a "meaningful life" - wth was the name of it?:?::^: Your inner peace from having that meaningful life shines thru in your Posts - yes, even about MONSTER-in-law.

Want some advice from an older gal who has seen a lot of life? Ok, good here goes:

You love your dh and have compassion for him & his situation with his Mom, right? You're not going to leave him or make a stand about his inability to "stand-up" for you, right? Deep down it sounds like to me that you want to FIX the situation or at the very least CHANGE it, right?

ok here's how: Stop making comparisons to your Mom - even if its just in your mind, kay? Remember, dh loves his Mom just as much as you love yours - period. I think that you struck the nail EXACTLY on the head when you suggested that your dh spend time alone with Mom - so I think you should have ONE more convo with him that goes like this:

I have been deeply hurt for 12 years because of my perception that you have not and will not stand up for me to your Mother's irrational rudeness & acting out towards me. I've done everything I can think of to HELP the situation because I LOVE you but I'm moving on now dh. I want you to make a committment to me that you will see your Mom at least once a week w/o me or the kids for awhile - take her to lunch - go by their house and just hang out for an hour or so. MAKE NO MENTION that this is my idea, ok dh? Consistent visits/lunches/suppers whatever - once a week for an hour or so. Run an errand for her/fix something around the house - whatEVAH. After a period of time, dh, I then want you to take just one of our kids with you on these visits - just to hang. Hopefully over a period of time these visits will mellow her out and maybe just maybe a bond can develop or at least the extremely uncomfortable situation that is boiling and getting ready to explode can be averted, ok dh? Do NOT talk about ME on these visits or act like they are even a big deal or discussed - JUST VISIT - period. Can we try that? I am not going to "stand by you" to be protected from insults at gatherings anymore dh - be aware of that. And I will not tolerate abusiveness to our kids - hear me? I hope you will try this plan because I don't plan on ever discussing any of this with you ever again.

I think your idea of "low key-just them" visits will address the root cause which is prolly depression/anxiety/dysfuntional/old age creeping on - and slowly make get togethers more tolerable soontbfc - you may have to MAKE dh do it tho'!:)

I wouldn't discuss her anymore with the other DIL's either BTW - things like that have a way of blowing things further out of proportion/not helping, ya know?

TALK about a LOOONG Post!:^: Hope your not offended by some advice? Sorry in advance if so . . . I gotta run out into the sunshine - got this day off for Veterans Day (:?:) - gonna make the most of it!

TTYBLUESLater on!:carrot:

We posted at the same time practiceL - pay no mind to that pesky scale! I'm feeling bloated & Ucky from some chili I needlessly ate last nite (SHOULD have taken soontbfc's advice and recognized I was just TIRED and gone to bed, ya know?:(

I'm taking our lil doggie Ginger out into the autumn sunshine to see if that clears the Ucks . . . hope to have some extra time this weekend to read your blog link - cya later!

Hi everyone,
My back is finally starting to feel a little better. I went to the doctor a couple of days ago and it is all tight muscles. He gave me some relaxers and I think now it’s starting to loosen up a bit. I have been able to do some walking but sitting at the computer has been excruciating. Looks like a lot has been going on since I’ve been gone.

Selina, I’m so sorry you lost Gerber and for the Mother-in-law problems. You have such a wonderful heart. I would love to have a daughter-in-law like you. I can’t understand your Mother-in-law. She must have some kind of emotional or mental problems. As a grandmother and mother-in-law myself I have to tell you that the thing that surprised me the most about my son getting married was the instant love that I felt for my new daughter-in-law. I had only met her one time before the wedding (they lived out of State and it was a quick engagement). I love her just like one of my own kids and my grandbaby there is just no love to describe that! Your Mother-in-law is missing out on so much. Family relationships are really the most important thing in this life. It is all very sad. I think Aud gave you some excellent advice. I believe people are put in our lives for a reason and we can grow so much inside from giving unconditional love. She has to be deeply hurting inside. Try to be compassionate and not let her outrageous comments get to you. Really you must know that a normal person would love you to death.

Tina, I had a sister-in-law who didn’t know she was pregnant until the 8th month so I know it can happen even though I still can’t imagine how. I hope everything will work out for your sister. What a shock for everyone!

Well, I am really dropping the weight this week. I hope to post a great loss on Monday. I have no idea why since I've had so little exercise the past couple of weeks. I have been staying OP and I did cut my calories back a bit. Hope everyone else had a great week!

Thanks for the advice. I will sure take it to heart and hope this all gets better soon. I really believe she has been in a depression since I've known her and my husband says his dad tells him at times that his mom is in her room, depressed that day. Sad thing. I really just feel bad for her. I really think she needs something to help her. She has said b4 that she won't take depr. meds bc "if someone says something to her to upset her she'll just tell them what she thinks, that she doesn't need a medicine to fix it when ppl upset her..." That's her way of solving things. But what's worse is that she starts the things!! I pray I don't end up that way. I miss my kids when they are at school!

Oh and just wanted to be sure you know that my Sils and I never ever talk about her. That one convo with my oldest Sil was at my son's shower 6 yrs ago and was the only time she has ever said anything bad to me about her, or anyone. I have 3 other ones. One is a teacher. She goes thru **** with her and only has said a couple of things but we don't have bash sessions and the other one just has said one time that she has learned just to let it all go.

Also, one other interesting fact b4 I move on to my weight stuff, don't u think it's odd that she brags that she doesn't get along with us all? At my son's party two weeks ago, me and my Sils and my family and his family were outside just talking and my MIL was bragging, very loudly to everyone, that my one Sil (second oldest) was the best one of all.. u know why? Bc she doesn't run back to her DH each time they get into it!!!! WTH??? She LIKES not getting along with us. Likes pushing us to get reactions. Likes seeing if we'll run and tell on her.. ??? It's just weird. I know she just wants attention but it's like with kids, if they don't get it a good way, they'll find another way. I got to where I don't sit near her at all usually. She'll say something condescending if I do. And I swear I've done so much to try to help this. She brings me plants (and knows my yard was too full of them when we bought the house, and we've been trying to throw many out to make it neater) and she says to me, 'ur gonna kill me but I think you need this one here and this one does this, etc.". I am not rude, I just smile and tell her thank you and spend a whole day that week digging and planting and moving old stuff out, etc.

I think she loves that I am nice to her when she knows she wouldnt be if someone were always making comments to her. She asked me one time, when my dh wanted to buy a little pool for the kids to splash in, he must've just mentioned to her that he was going to get it, "Don't you know how to put your foot down?" (bc she saves every penny as many older ppl do and I plan to do later) I said, "My dh doesn't go hunting, fishing or have hobbies he spends money on.. his kids are his hobby. I don't see anything wrong with spending a little on them if he sees fit." It's just like, she cannot stand that we are living our own lives and don't need her to decide everything for us.

I also know that they think of me as a grandchild, not a daughter in law, bc he was born so late and one of dh's brothers is my mom's age (one yr younger, lol). One time I asked what she'd like me to call her, about a yr after we were married. (They came to visit and would stay the weekend sometimes, we lived hours away.) I asked if she'd like me to call her Mom or Ms. S or what, and she said, Just call me Nanow. Like her grandkids do. LOL. Ok!!

And also, not sure if I told you, when she said that we don't need more children and it would be an awful decision.. I told her that her son has one life. If he wants to have 4 kids instead of 2, that is his choice, along with mine.

(He wants tons, we agreed on 4. lol. well, 7 if we ever get rich). I don't mind the work and I love kids and babies so I'm fine as long as we have the funds to cover what each of them need in life.

Last thing to say is I don't hate her, I hate her behavior. I try to find ways for us to sort of intervene and help her but he says why do u care? Let her be rude.. it's her choice to do it." But I say, "she's miserable, she can't be happy this way.. she wants something more out of life, who wouldn't? i said maybe we could get her to seek help. He said she'd be rude if we brought it up. And she would. ::sigh:: So we don't do anything.

Ok, I really am done with this subject! So whatever you do, don't write more on it!! Or I'll want to write back again to you. :) And that would drag it forever and you all will get so sick of hearing me whine. No no no. Let's just stop it now. Save yourselves from having to read those dang long posts I write. LOL.

Back to why we are here. Weight loss!!! I'm down to 209.0!!! My goal for Sunday. Yay!!! I really think I'll hit my goal for Christmas of 197!! That will be 80 lbs down. And you all have helped me with nearly 30 of it. Thank you so much for all of the support you all give me and all of us. I need support from ppl who hope I succeed.. badly.

Can't wait to get to my 100 lbs mark. So excited!!!! Hope you all are having a great weekend. Mine has been so busy bc I had a flat, had to have it repaired, buy what I need for the week ahead, get my nails done, run other errands, and then came home to clean and put things away, do laundry bc it piles up if you don't do some every day, and wash all the dishes, I hate leaving a dirty house to go out of town! Coming back is awful if you do, u know?

Ok, big hugs, thanks for listening again, I mean it. Really helps to let it out sometimes. I want u to know that if any of you need to talk about anything , I'm happy to listen, either on here or private message.

(I wrote fast so if I have typos I'm sorry! In a rush again, as usual.)

Fit, thank you so much for such sweet comments. We were posting at the same time and I just read yours. I hope to be just like you about my kids when they are grown! I always have said we need a longer kitchen table bc when our kids get married we'll have to be able to fit everyone. I know they'll not need me as much then or in the same ways but they'll need me in different ways, like to answer questions about taxes, lol, or how to sew something or something to help with their new babies, etc. I look forward to that stage in my life just as much as I cherish the stage I'm at now. It's all just a wonderful journey we make with our kids, isn't it? We just reach the end first.

I turned down a 7 month old baby last nite. (Don't worry, someone took her, there are many of us who take babies in our county.) I didn't even ask if it was a boy or girl. It's just more likely they will be reunited with family or some relative. I don't think we or our kids can take losing too many more babies b4 one stays. (Plus I like all my kids to have the same basic story if possible, u came to us at birth, we saw all ur first things, it's all here in ur book, etc.) I've never had a newborn who went back to family. Every single one went for adoption, either to us or a new family bc we already had a child that age we were keeping. (it's reallly special for me to teach a new mom how to take care of her baby, one I'd been raising but she was so happy to be getting. One baby I had went to great parents and they have since adopted her a brother. They still send us pics. Very few do that for us so we are grateful to them.

I'm holding out for another newborn. Send us positive thoughts. We need them. Every time the phone rings we jump bc we think it could be "The call." (Both of my kids have detailed accounts written by me of the day we learned they were coming to us, the first time we saw them, the first time we held them, all their 'firsts' etc. Plus I do a handwritten letter to each of them on their birthday each year describing what they were like that year and what they learned and all the fun stuff we did. (will be making copies for myself b4 I give it to them, binded together as a gift when they finish school.. will be perfect trip down memory lane, I love reading them all even now!) You should see me trying to keep up with my 4, 5 or 6 kids and all that they need or are doing at school or whatever and making sure to write in each of their books, do my foster kids' lifebooks with pics and details, and keeping my house very clean bc I'm inspected all the time by CPS, plus not just clean, but all the plug covers in each plug, locks on all meds and write down on logs each and every dose of any med ever given to any foster child here, do everything required of us, plus get in all our training each year, which mind u, they do NOT have childcare at, which I think is just awful. They know we all have many kids and it costs 100 for 5 kids to spend a day at daycare.. My head spins sometimes, but I tell myself if I mess up with them, I'm doomed to not ever adopting again. Who has $15,000 each child to continue adopting? Not me. It's a lot of stress but I tell myself in a few years it's over. Then it's just a choice if I keep my license. Not mandatory.

I am reaallllly sentimental. I have some nostalgia published online about my kids. I wrote essays about each member of my family and several were accepted and published in several books called Celebrations. Some are waiting to be printed this year. I lovvvvvve my family and that includes my dh's side. Just want things to be better than they are. My dh seems to think it can't be helped, he just stays sorta sad about it. I think it can be. Not sure what will work but will take the advice aud gave, along with all of yours from b4 and see how we do. Can you do an intervention for depressed ppl? Don't answer that! This topic WILL find a way to keep coming back over and over if we talk any more about it!

So thanks again, everybody. :) Sorry again to ramble but this is it! Back to our real subject: Weight loss and the maintenance of that!!!! :cp: :cp: :cp:

Ok, I'm back one more time b4 I sign off, just wanted to say to aud, that is cool! Let's do this together!! What is ur goal for later? just wondering. And are you doing the next competition? U are, right? We can do this, and so can everyone here. It's doable, we know bc so many have done it b4. Why not us! :D I'm in for that, girly!