It also serves to keep women under control and in their place, and pre-occupied with things that don't upset the status quo.

It also serves to keep women under control and in their place, and pre-occupied with things that don't upset the status quo.

Oh boy, isn't that the truth!

Not just weight issues but the entire topic of women being so concerned about their looks in order to please men. And not that there aren't males/men who are anorexic but by FAR, the huge majority are female/women.

And actually, when I think about it, I should really not be all that surprised that the latest theories are being utilized by endocrinologists for diabetics but are NOT being utilized to treat obesity. Diabetes is one thing....but being overweight is a stigma and viewed as being the fault of that person.

deena

Amen to that!!!

... and on our diet we get to eat BUTTER!!! (and not too many carrots!)

Personally, I find it easier to give up the 'carb type' foods entirely than to try to make or find low carb replacements. But maybe that's just because I live in France & 'low carb products' are non-existent here, plus I've eaten a whole-foods diet with very few processed foods for about 10 years, so it doesn't sit well with me to add them back because I cut out most carbs.

Well, all I can say is that I still don't miss bad carbs; breads, chips (I never ate pasta and rarely ate pizza as the acid in red sauce always made me sick), and I know that if I was to even eat one slice of any kind of bread that I would get addicted all over again and probably would not be on Atkins anymore.

I'm a recovering alcoholic since 1995 (been sober since) and I know about temptations. So for me bread and bad cards is just like having one sip of an alcoholic drink, there is no way I want this as I do not wish to be self-destructive.

When I first started this diet, I threw away everything and anything that was not on my "list" so I would not get tempted and that was great! Because I have been sober for so many years I can be around people who drink as that doesn't bother me (except if I smell their breath, then I get sick to my stomach) just like I feel I am strong enough to be around people who eat bread and bad carbs.

My Dad passed away from being diabetic (he was 79) and not watching his diet and now my older brother has diabetes type 2 (he is also not eating right even though he was warned). So I do not want to go there since it obviously runs in my family.

As far as low carb bread, I have one word for it: Fuggetaboutit!

I just want to add that any kind of bread whether it is low-carb or what have you, simply converts into sugar which is bad for me. There are so many good carbs that fill me up such as veggies. I rarely ate veggies when I was binging on breads and chips.

I am eating healthier then I ever did before on this WOE and I feel so much better, emotionally, physically, etc. I have more energy because I am not putting bad carbs into my body. And the most interesting thing is I don't even crave what I used to eat before! I remember that happened to me years ago when I was on Atkins and sure enough, it happened again.

Thanks for posting the links and information about pork rinds, cauliflower crusts, etc. I have been buying pork rinds and I am stocked up with caulifower! Yum!!

Bread is bread in my opinion whether it's low carb or not. It still converts into sugar.

Bread is bread in my opinion whether it's low carb or not. It still converts into sugar.

I totally agree Toby. You can't change a dog into a cat by magic. I had a recent discussion with my dad regarding the use of this SmartBalance spread. He's had a fear of fat for years. I told him that all these spreads and margarines were still FATS...but that they'd been altered with chemicals. FAT IS FAT. I mean, you sure cannot call margarine a protein. Or a vegetable. You can't make a fat into something that's not a fat. Long story short, he's now using butter (sparingly, of course), as why add chemicals if it's still gonna be a fat, right (?).....though a bit of an argument for requiring fat to absorb fat-soluble vitamins also helped convince him.

This also applies to those Atkins bars, IMO. How can you magically change 22 Gm. of carb into 1 net carb? Highly suspicious to me.

Of course, the exception to this argument would be where there is something totally Atkins friendly, in terms of the ingredient....that makes it LOOK like an item (such as bread) but there is nothing in it not allowed. For instance...with tofurkey...it definitely has no turkey or other meat...and they made soy look kinda like turkey. If, along those lines, one could make a bread out of eggs and cauliflower somehow....and make it look like bread...that would be an exception.

deena