[Doctorblue]

Thank you for the PM MntRose. I hadn't been around for a while. I had several tragic things happen in the last few months that have derailed me in several areas of life! Things are much improved and I have been trying to get back to the board in the past week. I will open up the spreadsheet so that anyone who would like to add things can.

[snickers70]

Hi, I am an IP newbie and am looking for a cheaper alternative for phase 1, I am on week 2.
How do you know what is allowed in phase 1 from the nashuanutrion website? I am have boutght the IP cappicino drink and the IP chocolate drink. Is there something comparable to that? So far the only bars I like is the peanut butter, havent tried anythong else but the cookies and cream. I like the chocolate soy puffs and the chedder crisp. I don't want to kick myself out of ketosis.. so any help will be greatly appreciated.

[MntRose]

Originally Posted by snickers70

Hi, I am an IP newbie and am looking for a cheaper alternative for phase 1, I am on week 2.
How do you know what is allowed in phase 1 from the nashuanutrion website? I am have boutght the IP cappicino drink and the IP chocolate drink. Is there something comparable to that? So far the only bars I like is the peanut butter, havent tried anythong else but the cookies and cream. I like the chocolate soy puffs and the chedder crisp. I don't want to kick myself out of ketosis.. so any help will be greatly appreciated.

First know what to look for in an alternative "packet" (Amber Jules has made a wonderful file that can be found near the end of both the Quest bar thread and the current Alternatives thread.) I sent it to my local print shop and had it printed out in a credit card size that I keep with me all the time.
1) at least 12+ grams of protein
2) calories between 70 - 160
3) unrestricted is 8 or less net carbs
4) restricted is 9 - 15 (16-18 would be super restricted)
5) 30% or less calories from fat
6) no aspartame

Secondly you still follow the same protocol for phase 1, three packets a day (2 unrestricted and one restricted), the 2 cups veggies with lunch and dinner, your meat/ protein for dinner, add sea salt and olive oil and supplements (multi vitamin, potassium and cal-mag.) 0/0/0 condiments or sweeteners should be limited to 6 or less servings a day.

[kellyrn]

Originally Posted by MntRose

First know what to look for in an alternative "packet" (Amber Jules has made a wonderful file that can be found near the end of both the Quest bar thread and the current Alternatives thread.) I sent it to my local print shop and had it printed out in a credit card size that I keep with me all the time.
1) at least 12+ grams of protein
2) calories between 70 - 160
3) unrestricted is 8 or less net carbs
4) restricted is 9 - 15 (16-18 would be super restricted)
5) 30% or less calories from fat
6) no aspartame

Secondly you still follow the same protocol for phase 1, three packets a day (2 unrestricted and one restricted), the 2 cups veggies with lunch and dinner, your meat/ protein for dinner, add sea salt and olive oil and supplements (multi vitamin, potassium and cal-mag.) 0/0/0 condiments or sweeteners should be limited to 6 or less servings a day.

Thank you! I've been looking for this!

[natsprat4]

Can anyone explain the breakdown of the carbs? I've seen you deduct the fibre from the total of carbs. So if a bar was carb 17g, with 2g of fibre, the total would be 15g?

Is this correct????

[disgal]

Originally Posted by natsprat4

Can anyone explain the breakdown of the carbs? I've seen you deduct the fibre from the total of carbs. So if a bar was carb 17g, with 2g of fibre, the total would be 15g?

Is this correct????

Correct!!

[flubadub15]

where is a good website to order alternate products from Canada ?? I have never ordered anything online so any suggestions would be appreciated.

[lisa32989]

Flubadub
Look in one of these threads http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...s-vol-1-a.html

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...da-thread.html