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  • Steel cut oats are good for you and delicious (I use them too!) but are not a complete protein like quinoa. Also they contain 4g protein and quinoa 6g.
  • I'm just curious. What exactly does detoxing mean? I mean I know what detoxing MEANS, but how does it apply to a "diet"? What are you detoxing from?
  • just all meat and crap since living with my son i was losing weight like crazy, sometimes your body needs it.....
  • I don't really support drastic short-term diets, but I like the soup from the cabbage-soup diet quite a bit. This soup, though, sounds a little bland. Did you add any seasoning or anything?
  • Nope nothing but it feels great, love the texture....lol
  • Quote: Actually, LaurieDawn, you are not disagreeing with me at all. As I said in my first post, we need protein. I stated, "I am not talking about meat." Even vegans eat protein. Beans, legumes, nuts are wonderful plant based protein sources... very little of which I see included in this "detox plan." The quinoa has about 6g of protein. A half cup of green beans has 1 gram of protein. I never advocated a "high protein" diet, either, but eating 7-800 calories with only 7g of protein a day is not a healthy way to eat. But I personally would not follow a restricted regimen that I know can harm my body.
    You might be interested in reading some of the stuff John McDougall has written. He advocates a low-fat, plant-based diet, and recommends that people be careful about eating too many beans, legumes, and nuts when they are trying to lose weight. He believes that anyone who gets enough calories to survive will be getting enough quality protein to meet their needs. He points to several longitudinal studies done in countries with starch-based diets and compares health statistics from people who follow those diets to health statistics for most Americans. There really is no comparison. However, like I said before, I am not trying to suggest that even those who do follow high-protein diets are doing it wrong because I know that there is a lot of disagreement over nutritional recommendations, and I didn't mean to suggest that you personally were advocating high protein. I'm just questioning what seems to be your snap judgment about something someone else is trying. Your insistence that it will "harm your body" just seems a little judgmental, and I believe it to be inaccurate. I have read so much nutritional literature over the years that I really believe that I could take any food plan that anyone uses and find a reason to claim that it is bad for them, including my own. I am absolutely not interested in doing that. I also know that your suggestions were made with the best possible intentions, and it is the variety of opinions and the willingness to share them that make this forum so valuable.
  • Quote: You might be interested in reading some of the stuff John McDougall has written. He advocates a low-fat, plant-based diet, and recommends that people be careful about eating too many beans, legumes, and nuts when they are trying to lose weight. He believes that anyone who gets enough calories to survive will be getting enough quality protein to meet their needs. He points to several longitudinal studies done in countries with starch-based diets and compares health statistics from people who follow those diets to health statistics for most Americans. There really is no comparison. However, like I said before, I am not trying to suggest that even those who do follow high-protein diets are doing it wrong because I know that there is a lot of disagreement over nutritional recommendations, and I didn't mean to suggest that you personally were advocating high protein. I'm just questioning what seems to be your snap judgment about something someone else is trying. Your insistence that it will "harm your body" just seems a little judgmental, and I believe it to be inaccurate. I have read so much nutritional literature over the years that I really believe that I could take any food plan that anyone uses and find a reason to claim that it is bad for them, including my own. I am absolutely not interested in doing that. I also know that your suggestions were made with the best possible intentions, and it is the variety of opinions and the willingness to share them that make this forum so valuable.
    I agree with you completely , i am sticking too it
  • Oh I definately know I do not eat perfectly by any means!! And I am not putting anyone down for trying. Heck it is better to try something than to give up and eat a pan of brownies (which I have done in the past!) My judgement of the plan is just that, *my* judgement.. why I would not do it myself. And I felt the need to give an opinion to consider, in case people are reading the detox and thinking it is healthy... because I don't think it is... but everyone can make their own call on that.

    That said, my main issues with it are
    1) calories too restricted IMO
    2) too low in any protein IMO
    3) seems like one of those plans that people can only stick to for a few days before going bonkers and eating like crazy because their body can't handle it.

    But I really am looking forward to seeing the results for those trying it, how much they do lose and whether they are able to maintain a loss. We all need to do what works best for us.

    Lyn
    EIGHTEEN pounds gone!
    My Blog:
    www.escapefromobesity.blogspot.com
  • Hi Sandy,

    Good luck, Hon! I hope this gets things going in the right direction for you.
  • Kind of off subject - but I saw Womans World mentioned - why do womens magazines ALWAYS carry a story on how to lose weight AND tons of pictures and recipes for horrifying fat laden desserts and main dishes ?????
  • I can definitely see where setting yourself some strict rules and elminating problem foods could be very helpful in the beginning. I hope this helps to get you back on track. Good luck!
  • Quote: Kind of off subject - but I saw Womans World mentioned - why do womens magazines ALWAYS carry a story on how to lose weight AND tons of pictures and recipes for horrifying fat laden desserts and main dishes ?????
    It's so true! I'm glad my mother was never addicted to that crap but I always see them at the stand near the check out. It's just a ploy to get more money since every woman seems to feel like they need to loose 10 more pounds before some event yet also give something to the traditional women who love to cook fattening things. See, that's why I like to get magazines like Weight Watchers because they have recipes that actually seem to taste good and are good for you.
  • Quote: Kind of off subject - but I saw Womans World mentioned - why do womens magazines ALWAYS carry a story on how to lose weight AND tons of pictures and recipes for horrifying fat laden desserts and main dishes ?????
    I always wonder the same thing, but you know, all you have to do is follow the money! :P They want you to eat a bunch of their desserts they feature and then follow their 10lbs in a week diet plan to make up for the damage done, I suppose! :P
  • Most mags are like that it just the media...period!