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Old 05-11-2014, 10:38 AM   #466  
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Is there an official Phase One sheet from Ideal Protein? Wondering if each center gets to adjust the official one.
My papers are the same as what you can get in the first post of the daily thread, or the FAQ sticky. I compared them right away, because (though I trust my friend/coach who started my program), I know that some centers are really slow about switching over to new sheets when there are changes. I wanted to be sure that her center was using the newest stuff!

I have heard that some people receive sheets with hand written addendums that do not match current protocol. I guess it is possible that coaches are making changes to the papers, but I doubt it is approved by Ideal Protein.

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The IP daily video blog do say that if spinach is raw it doesn't have to be counted. They said the same about field greens. But then they do say if you have trouble getting in all your veggies to eat spinach and kale. Even IP can't seem to stay clear on this subject. They always come back to "see how your body handles it". I don't want to waste a week finding out!
Haha! Boy, they make it clear as mud, eh? I'm with you - what I'm doing is working well, and I'm not willing to waste a week.

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THanks for the thorough answer. I am traveling in a few days and will be MUCH more active than I normally am and have been concerned about not eating enough and getting ill (will be at Disney World...hot and LOTS of walking). My coach did not seem to have a good answer for me WHAT I should increase if I needed to increase:
veggies?
REAL protein?
protein packs?

Not very helpful to say the least.
Yeah, I think it's tough for the coaches. The IP higher-ups have provided them with little guidance for dealing with special circumstances, and the coaches aren't scientists or dieticians -- they're laypeople trying to do the best they can for their clients.

I'm a resident physician, and have rotations with call coming up. The diet, as it stands, is simply not enough to keep me going for 28-30 hours straight (yes, my life sucks). My coach and I haven't decided on a plan of attack yet, but it will either be an extra unrestricted packet for more protein, or possibly an increase in fat (like in the form of PB on celery, not a greasy burger or anything).

I think, in your situation, the most important thing will be to stay hydrated. Don't let that water bottle leave your side! You might confuse dehydration with hunger. If you need it, having an extra packet handy is probably good idea. As well, safe vegetables like cucumber & celery aren't going to give you much of an energy boost, but they can be lifesavers if you're staring temptation in the face and just want to munch!

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Old 05-11-2014, 03:15 PM   #468  
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[Also, on my Phase 1 sheet, the spinach counts as a vegetable, not a lettuce. I guess your coaches have their own "house rules" about this.

Is there an official Phase One sheet from Ideal Protein? Wondering if each center gets to adjust the official one.
It does seem inexplicable how spinach/field greens are select veggies on the sheet (not qualifying raw or cooked) and not only coaches, but IP itself can contradict that. Why list it as select if it is to be treated as a variable?

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Ideal Protein says "unlimited lettuce", but my coach says at least four cups of romaine lettuce daily to prevent constipation. It is an important source of nutrients, and it helps with hunger. That being said, she also told me that missing a day occasionally will not mess things up. Some days I am too busy for salad (hard to eat while driving) and some days I am not that hungry. Other days, like yesterday, I eat a huge salad at lunch and none at dinner. I get my four cups most days, but not necessarily split into two servings.
Re lettuce: I a couple cups of romaine in a ziploc bag & eat like chips in the afternoon. A lot of my job is travel and it works for me!
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Yeah, I think it's tough for the coaches. The IP higher-ups have provided them with little guidance for dealing with special circumstances, and the coaches aren't scientists or dieticians -- they're laypeople trying to do the best they can for their clients.

I'm a resident physician, and have rotations with call coming up. The diet, as it stands, is simply not enough to keep me going for 28-30 hours straight (yes, my life sucks). My coach and I haven't decided on a plan of attack yet, but it will either be an extra unrestricted packet for more protein, or possibly an increase in fat (like in the form of PB on celery, not a greasy burger or anything).

I think, in your situation, the most important thing will be to stay hydrated. Don't let that water bottle leave your side! You might confuse dehydration with hunger. If you need it, having an extra packet handy is probably good idea. As well, safe vegetables like cucumber & celery aren't going to give you much of an energy boost, but they can be lifesavers if you're staring temptation in the face and just want to munch!
Thanks again! Good for you for taking control of your health in the most chaotic times. My nutrition went down the tubes after graduate school where I was on call for suicide/hospitalization screenings....not enough rest, too much stress = emotional eating!

I am curious how I will do....my energy feels lower this week than previously on IP.
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Re lettuce: I a couple cups of romaine in a ziploc bag & eat like chips in the afternoon. A lot of my job is travel and it works for me!
That's brilliant! I used to do that with baby spinach (odd pregnancy craving) but I never thought to do it with romaine. Thanks for the tip!

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B: egg + whites to replace IP omelet, 1 C green bell peppers, tea with milk and stevia
L: salad with romaine, 1 C spinach, 1 C red bell peppers, acv & oil dressing. I made an experimental flat bread with New Hope Mills pancake mix, herbs, and an egg white, and stuffed some of the salad into the flatbread for a "sandwich". Recipe needs tweaking, but it was pretty good overall.
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D: huge salad of romaine and iceberg lettuce, with spicy shredded chicken and 1 C of pico de gallo on top. (There goes my tomatoes for the week, lol!)
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L: 2 C cabbage with 1 tsp oil, liquid splenda, 1 tbsp white vinegar, salt and pepper, 2 oz piece grilled chicken breast
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Yeah, I think it's tough for the coaches. The IP higher-ups have provided them with little guidance for dealing with special circumstances, and the coaches aren't scientists or dieticians -- they're laypeople trying to do the best they can for their clients.

I'm a resident physician, and have rotations with call coming up. The diet, as it stands, is simply not enough to keep me going for 28-30 hours straight (yes, my life sucks). My coach and I haven't decided on a plan of attack yet, but it will either be an extra unrestricted packet for more protein, or possibly an increase in fat (like in the form of PB on celery, not a greasy burger or anything).

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WOW 28-30 hours straight. I am tired just hearing that!

Not the same situation but the same idea. When I started IP at 470 my coach looked at me and smiled and said I could do up to 7 packets a day. She didn't get that out of a book, she winged it and you know what, I am damn glad she did because I would not have stuck with the diet and had success with three packets a day!
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WOW 28-30 hours straight. I am tired just hearing that!

Not the same situation but the same idea. When I started IP at 470 my coach looked at me and smiled and said I could do up to 7 packets a day. She didn't get that out of a book, she winged it and you know what, I am damn glad she did because I would not have stuck with the diet and had success with three packets a day!
And you're doing amazingly! Congrats on your success so far -- especially with the extra hurdle of HCL (saw you mention it in another thread). I've met many people with it as a result of my work, so I have to give you extra kudos

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D- 1/2 bell pepper stuffed with taco meat, few tomatoes and onions (everyone else gets REAL tacos in the tortillas LOL)

OR I can make small taco shells baked in muffin tins with cauliflower too.....hmmm I need to decided LOL
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For bfast I had the cappucino drink, plus a cup of joe with skim milk and 4 drops of stevia. For the first time at lunch today I tried the chicken soup and OMG it's so GOOD!!
Dinner I think we'll have leftovers - we grilled out and had a ton of meat last night. I don't think I want lettuce because I'm so full from lunch.
Oh and I had some grilled peppers and grilled zucchini in my chicken soup.
I didn't realize it was so creamy! YUM!
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