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Old 08-25-2004, 05:57 PM   #1  
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Question liporexin?

hello everyone...has anyone used or heard of this product? liporexin? please give honest opinions. I would really appreicate it...have a great day.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:30 PM   #2  
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Well, apparently, it's primarily sold on eBay...the main seller of this stuff at least was good enough to put in the ingredients.

Quick rundown...

Chromium - proven in NUMEROUS studies NOT to work for weight loss; however it shows up like clockwork in every diet pill out there! Is there some sort of unwritten rule that says this must be an ingredient in any bs diet pill??

Green Tea Extract - overrated IMO.

Dandelion Root - this is a DIURETIC. It makes you lose water (temporarily) - not fat. Dandelion root is one of the secrets in most bodybuilding competitors' bag of tricks just prior to a show - and they KNOW it's TEMPORARY.

Milk Thistle, Cayenne Pepper, Apple Cider Vinegar - all overrated and/or unproven for weight loss.

Noni Fruit Extract...I'm going to quote www.supplementwatch.com right here:

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Supplement Noni (Morinda citrifolia)

Description Noni (Morinda citrifolia), is also known as Tahitian Noni and Indian mulberry. The plant is a small tree found in the Pacific islands and Polynesia. The fruit of the Noni tree is foul-smelling and tasting and resembles a cross between a warty avocado and a pitted mango (not a pretty sight). Noni fruit passes thru several stages of ripening, where it turns from green to yellow to white - and is generally regarded as becoming more disgusting with each stage of ripeness.

Claims · You name it - they claim it…
· "Miracle cure" for Arthritis, Infections, Cancer, Chronic Fatigue, Diabetes, Heart Disease, Digestive disturbances, Inflammation, and many others.


Theory Only if you were starving to death, would you force yourself to eat noni fruit. Because of its foul odor and bitter taste, nobody except the most desperate Polynesians would force themselves to consume noni (and only during times of famine or widespread sickness). Traditional Polynesian healers ("medicine men") have reportedly used noni fruit for treating everything from constipation to ankle sprains - and there are accounts in traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) of noni roots being effective for "strengthening" the digestive system.

Scientific Support Despite the fact that noni has been heavily promoted by multi-level marketing companies for virtually every ailment under the sun, there is no convincing evidence that it is has any beneficial effects for any specific condition. Studies do exist, however, to show that noni juice provides a small measure of antioxidant activity (but so do the juices of almost all fruits) and even a few unique polysaccharide compounds that may help immune system function - so these findings may lend a shred of credence to common claims of anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer effects.

Safety Noni is not associated with any adverse side effects. Commercial preparations are extensively processed to remove and/or mask the horrendous taste and smell of the native noni fruit, so there is probably more of a safety concern from the added flavors, colors and sweeteners in these concoctions than from the actual noni fruit.

Value Some people will always assign a high mystical value to bad-tasting things from far-off islands - and this is certainly the case with noni juice. Our advice, if you want to drink something that is truly good for you, is to try some orange juice (more antioxidants than noni plus potassium that noni lacks), a V-8 (chock full of carotenoids) or even some apple juice (also packed with antioxidants).

Dosage Commercial noni products are available as juice, tablets and capsules - but there are no scientifically accepted dosage levels for these products. The juices tend to be the most heavily promoted (hyped as cure-alls) with typical dosage recommendations in the range of 4-6 ounces per day. Concentrated forms of the juice may be recommended in lower daily doses of 1-2 tablespoons.
...and the BIG SECRET INGREDIENT in this mix appears to be Gymnema Sylvestre...from WholeHealthMD.com - please note that the 'sugar killer' effects that are lauded IN CAPS on the eBay seller's page are *only effective if the leaves are chewed directly, not swallowed in a capsule!* :

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What Is It?

A member of the milkweed family, Gymnema sylvestre is native to the tropical regions of India. Nicknamed the "sugar destroyer" because the leaves effectively block sweet tastes in the mouth when chewed, the herb is often promoted as an appetite suppressant and weight-loss agent. This claim has no evidence to support it, however. In fact, the capsules sold for this purpose don't even alter the taste in a person's mouth--the leaves need to be chewed directly for this purpose.

Interestingly, generations of people in India with diabetes have successfully chewed the leaves to help control blood sugar. Several small, placebo-controlled trials indicate that gymnema extracts may indeed lower blood sugar levels. In those with type 1 diabetes, gymnema seems to enhance the action of insulin. In one study, 27 people with type 1 diabetes who took gymnema leaf extracts for several months required less insulin to control their blood sugar levels. Animal studies also support this use; they indicate that gymnema can double the amount of insulin-producing cells in the pancreas, and return blood sugar levels to normal as a result.

In the case of the far more prevalent type 2 diabetes--also known as noninsulin-dependent diabetes--research findings indicate that the use of gymnema may improve blood sugar control and result in the need for smaller doses of oral diabetes drugs to control the disease. However, it's critical that people with this disease don't abandon proven ways to manage it, from a healthy diet to regular exercise and medications when needed.

Traditional Ayurvedic medicine uses gymnema to treat a variety of other disorders as well, including digestion problems, cough, constipation, and malaria. Animal studies indicate a possible role for gymnema in lowering cholesterol, triglycerides, and LDL ("bad") cholesterol. More research on this intriguing connection is needed.

General Interaction

Gymnema may alter the dosage needed for other drugs commonly used to treat diabetes, including glipizide, metformin, and insulin.

Cautions

Gymnema has safely been used for decades in various countries. Careful long-term studies on its safety have not been done so far, however.

Consult your doctor about your desire to supplement your diabetes regimen with gymnema.

Oh you just gotta love when they say stuff like Virtually no work involved...Liporexin does all the work for you. Of course that's total bs.

I also checked the main seller's feedback - most of the positives are about the 'fast shipping' not about the effectiveness of the product. I've even come across positive feedback (in a quick review) where buyers said 'no weight loss, but fast shipping'.

My advice: Save your money.
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:37 PM   #3  
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Thank you very much for the feed back. I have used Noni Juice and I liked it, but it is very expensive.
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