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babyfattimes3
11-24-2013, 08:02 PM
I am giving up a 25 year love affair with diet coke. I have been drinking a minimum of one 20 oz bottle a day to a six pack daily.
I`m on day two and have a killer headache. I could have weaned myself off but after watching an episode of Dr. Oz where he talked about how bad it is I don't want it anymore. I`m so excited that this will help greatly with my weight loss.
I wonder how long do the withdrawls last?
Does anybody have experience with this they can share?
Diet coke was the only thing I drank so now I`m only drinking water.
Thanks Kelly


kaplods
11-24-2013, 09:01 PM
About nine years ago I gave up aspartame and caffeine for about a year. Doing so didn't have any miraculous or even noticeable health benefits and no weight loss.

I did a lot of reading to find out "how bad" artificial sweeteners really were, and I found out there were a lot of much worse environmemtal toxins that almost no one worries or even thinks about.

So I added diet sodas and artificial sweeteners back in, and started eliminating household cleansers, fabric softener sheets, most cosmetics and detergents, antibacterial washes and disinfectants, air fresheners, carpet powders and other strong fragrances....

THOSE changes did have a dramatic impact on my health. My asthma and autoimmune symptoms improved so much that my doctors declared me to possibly be in remission (with autoimmune disease, the tissue damage can slow to undetectable levels, so doctors are reluctant to declare a full remission).

Be wary of what you hear from Dr. Oz. He has warned people away from many safe products and has recommended or given positive reviews of harmful or questionable products.

If you want professional guidance, speak with a registered dietition or diabetes educator (even if you don't have diabetes, a diabetes educator has the most experience with the benefits and risks of artificial sweeteners).

seaurchin
11-24-2013, 09:47 PM
Goodby diet Coke! If you feel like fizz, I drink club soda with lemon or lime and a hint of mint. All natural.


babyfattimes3
11-25-2013, 12:04 AM
Kaplods I`m so happy that your in remission.
I still don't believe diet sodas are a good choice, due to
aspartame. I also don't believe Dr. Oz has recommended harrmful things to people and discouraged healthy lol. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Catgoyle
11-25-2013, 12:24 AM
I agree with Kaplods, as I have mentioned on the forum before, when Dr Oz promoted on his show, the guy who says he contacts the dead for loved ones, that was it for me. He puts on his show what ever will get ratings.
I do believe the acid in soda is bad for our teeth and esophagus, so quitting sodas is not a bad thing.

Sandyangiollo
11-25-2013, 12:36 AM
I have also quit diet coke. I drank at least a 8 pack a day. I also started the protein diet 2 days ago. I am just so excited to get this weight off. There is a article about diet coke. Amazing the false sickness people are getting from the sweetener. lupus,Ms and joint pain back pain many other things. Hay I have not been able to loose any weight in the past so I'm cutting back for all reasons. I have went from eight at least a day to one. next will be none. I'm not sure how to be in support group. I know I have to post so many times. I just feel I need the support of others that are going threw the same experience as me. I'm positive and feel great. I saw a friend that has been on this diet for 24 weeks and lost 100.8 pounds. She looks amazing. Anyone that can help me out would be a great help. Thanks Sandy

babyfattimes3
11-25-2013, 12:54 AM
Gee whiz!!!!!!! I didn`t ask for anyones opinion of Dr.Oz or diet coke. I am going to give up diet coke and continue watching Dr.Oz. What I had hoped was for people to post and tell how they got through withdrawls how long they dealt with them, what they drink now? I got one thank you for that. Everyone is so damn opinionated. I'm sorry I asked:mad:

babyfattimes3
11-25-2013, 12:59 AM
Thank you Sandy! If you happen to find a support group let me know. I don't want diet coke anymore but I'm only 2 days in so I don't how long this will last but I`m staying positive so far. After 25 years will be weird.

Catgoyle
11-25-2013, 01:00 AM
No offense intended, we all express our opinions on here.
I would just suggest drinking something with caffeine to alleviate the headaches if they are bad, like tea or coffee. The headaches should stop in a few days.

Amy Remixed
11-25-2013, 01:05 AM
A year ago I would consume a 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke every day. When I eased up on my consumption, I noticed that my hands no longer shook. I don't know what ingredient would cause that.

Then I only drank DC as a treat. But within the past month I stopped drinking it all together. I haven't craved it and it tastes bad to me now.

I haven't noticed weight loss due to being DC free. But I feel better.

MarleneV
11-25-2013, 01:19 AM
I quit diet coke in July 2012. I was drinking 6-8 cans a day. Now I drink mostly water (we collect rainwater, which tastes amazing!). on a very occasional basis (once or twice a week) I'll have mineral water, hot tea, Crystal lite, or low-fat sugar free flavored coffee. Drinking more hot tea now as cold as it is. It was very hard at first, I used Crystal Lite every other drink until I got used to the water, now I'd rather just have water.

I used to have awful Migraines, and my dr at the time said that the diet coke would help. OK, it did, but at what cost? It took about 2 weeks before I was ok without it, and then another 2 before I got to where I didn't use the Crystal Lite. I also dropped coffee at the same time.

It's great not being addicted anymore. I denied that I was when I was drinking it, but now KNOW that is what it was. I started drinking it in high school, so it was more than 30 years, since I went to my 30th reunion this summer.

You can do this! Good luck!

MarleneV
11-25-2013, 01:31 AM
Oh, and I disagree with the idea of drinking something else with caffeine in it. Yes, it will help, but i think it tends to drag the withdrawal out. My tea or coffee is caffeine-free. Just drink more water, you'll get though the headaches sooner than if you medicate with more caffeine.

Elladorine
11-25-2013, 01:32 AM
I still don't believe diet sodas are a good choice, due to aspartame.
I think it's different for everyone. Years ago I started getting severe migraines, had sores in my mouth, and had some strange bladder issues. The migraines eventually got so bad that I'd spend a week at a time in bed with the lights off and the blinds closed, still attempting to block out everything with a pillow over my head. I could barely eat, I couldn't read or watch tv, I couldn't even listen to music, about all I could do was cry and pray for the pain to subside. I attributed it to stress over moving across the country, an old glasses prescription, and the extreme change in climate. When new glasses didn't improve anything, I hoped that time would.

I was feeling surprisingly well one day and was sitting up at the PC when my husband came home. He was happy to see I was doing better and had brought me a treat . . . a bottle of iced tea. I started on the bottle, and about halfway through it I doubled over in pain. The migraine came back with a vengeance! I looked at the ingredients and felt incredibly stupid upon my realization; it was sweetened with aspartame. When I'd moved across the country, I decided to cut out sugar and had switched to diet drinks and other products in hopes of getting healthier. When the migraines got severe and I could barely eat, I was drinking diet iced tea, diet soda, and was eating diet popsicles. And I'd also forgotten that years before, my father had bad reactions to aspartame, giving him sores in his mouth and bad headaches (I didn't think it was an issue for me since I'd never noticed a bad reaction in myself back then).

I do have friends that clearly have no issues with aspartame, so I don't run around preaching the evils of it. ;) However, I do openly discuss how it affected me in case it may help someone else that may unknowingly have a bad reaction to it. Once again, I believe everyone can be affected differently by such products. For example, I also can't drink apple juice because it will trigger a super painful golf ball-sized Bartholin's Cyst; oddly enough, I can eat fresh apples just fine. The interesting part is that apple juice has always tasted "rotten" to me anyway (as if it's gone bad when it's still fresh), so it's like my body was already trying to warn me.

If you choose to avoid aspartame, avoid all diet drinks from a fountain unless you can read the ingredients; 99% of them have aspartame. Also be careful of non-diet products, like chewing gum and cereals, which often add aspartame to make them "healthier."

And if you do find you want an occasional soda for a treat, keep in mind there are aspartame-free options that you may find more agreeable, like:

Diet Shasta (sucralose-based)
Diet Hansen's (sucralose-based)
Diet Coke with Splenda (yellow label, sucralose-based)
Zevia (stevia-based)

And Arizona makes diet iced tea that's sucralose-based as well.

Take care and hang in there! :hug: I definitely went through withdrawals. Since your issues don't seem to be as severe as mine, I'm sure they won't last nearly as long (my migraines came and went for about three months and the sores and bladder issues eventually went away; it had apparently built up in my system over time). If I accidentally ingest some it these days doesn't seem to affect me, but it definitely did when my system was still apparently purging what had built up. Drink plenty of water and see how you're feeling in a week or so. :)

Tai
11-25-2013, 02:27 AM
When I gave up soda the withdrawal lasted a few days.

I replaced the soda with plain and flavored waters, diet iced tea and lots of different hot teas. Now that the weather has turned cold I also like diet cocoa.

Congratulations on taking this big step! I hope your withdrawal discomfort ends soon, hang in there till then!

Paisleymama
11-25-2013, 05:51 AM
I only drink 1 diet coke a day but man, I NEED it. I've wiped almost everything else so it's something I will kick a little ways down the road.

I have gone off it before & was extremely irritable and did need something else to replace the caffeine, but maybe that's just me. It took a few days to adjust but then it was smooth sailing.

I'm also less of an "all in" kind of girl & tend not to go cold turkey with things. I used to have 3-4 cans a day at one point and made sure I cut way down over the course of a few weeks. I don't respond well to complete deprivation.

gma22
11-25-2013, 07:07 AM
I find withdrawals can last 3-4 days headache wise.

I am going to be the dissenter on diet soda. I do have diet coke in restaurants, but I drink coke zero at home, which is Splenda not aspartame, but regardless, I will continue to drink it as I drink diet IBC and haven't looked to see how it is sweetened.

With that being said, it is a personal choice what we eat and drink and a choice to discount or believe what people including dr's say. I find that whatever works for you, works for you and whatever decisions you make are yours alone to make.

Elladorine
11-25-2013, 12:13 PM
but I drink coke zero at home, which is Splenda not aspartame
While the formulation varies in different countries, I just wanted to step in and clarify that here in the states Coke Zero actually does contain aspartame. Diet Coke with Splenda is the variety that uses sucralose. :)

Regardless, I totally agree that what we choose to believe and consume is a personal decision. And as I've previously stated, I believe that aspartame may affect everyone differently, in the same way I can't drink apple juice but others can with no problem. I still feel very lucky that I finally managed to figure out what was causing my issues; even before the migraines got bad, the sweetener was making me experience fatigue and horrible brain fog. If I accidentally consume some while I'm out it's no big deal, but I'm extremely careful about reading labels because I don't ever want to give it the chance to build back up in my system again.

Unicorn67
11-25-2013, 12:58 PM
I gave up my 6 can a day diet coke habit about a year and a half ago. I only drink water now. I quit slowly so didn't really have any withdrawal.
Although I can't say it has helped with my weight loss I believe it has helped with my overall "healthiness". I did have one can at New Year's last year and it tasted disgusting.

Trazey34
11-25-2013, 03:41 PM
I, too, was a lover of the diet coke lol

I gave it up, not so much for any health benefit, but simply because in my mind it equated with a treat/snack.

diet coke and chips, yum!
diet coke and chocoalte, yum!

I was the most 'junkie like' about that beverage, more so than any food. The weird panicky feeling in my gut when I was home on a weekend, thinking "will I have enough to see me thru to MOnday???" LOL

Now I happily drink water with meals, and limit diet cokes for nights out

Rechyl
11-25-2013, 04:01 PM
im now in week 6 of no fizzy juice at all. I stopped cold turkey and had really bad headaches for the first 4 days, after that it wasnt so bad.
It might be my imagination but i dont think i look or feel as bloated and my skin has improved a little. Its softer and clearer.
now i drink water or sugar free diluting juice.

Lindy87
11-25-2013, 04:32 PM
I have cut back on my consumption of diet coke, although I am drinking one right now. I do drink a lot of water. I have found that that I like to put fresh fruit in my water and it gives it a great taste. I sometimes use lemon or strawberries. My overall favorite though is cutting up a few slices of cucumber and putting it in my water. Delish!

SMSDREAMER2007
11-25-2013, 07:08 PM
For most people the withdrawl lasts a few days...itll get better promise!!

As far as dr. Oz...I dont think hes a complete crackpot...I do advise that you take whats on his show with a grain of salt though; do aditional research on your own on top of what he says.

As far as stopping diet coke wtg!! I dont think the acids or aspertame in soda is good for anyone and I KNOW aspertame personally affects my muscles. Good luck and you can do this!!!

cormandy62442
11-26-2013, 11:41 PM
I realized a few weeks ago that I hadn't had a soda in a while and decided to just continue on the pattern. Luckily for me, I didn't notice the withdrawal. I do have a craving every now and then, but I read (on the internet, so take it with a grain of salt) that aspartame has e.coli feces in it. (genetically manufactured, but STILL!!) That was the end of that... my friend pointed out that honey was regurgitation but for some reason bees don't freak me out as much as bacteria poop. Ick!

kaplods
11-27-2013, 12:48 AM
Genetically manufactured e.coli feces in aspartame?! Now I think I really have heard it all.

I don't think that's very likely, or even theoretically possible.

E.coli is a bacteria that is common in feces, but it's also on your skin, right now! It's a bacteria that is virtually everywhere. If it's in aspartame, it's only there because it's EVERYWHERE and in virtually everything that hasn't been subjected to intense heat.

Even so, I would be surprised if a truckload of aspartame had as much e.coli bacteria as what's under your fingernails right now.

TheSecondHalf
11-27-2013, 11:12 AM
I was drinking a 12 pack of Diet Coke every day, along with my coffee habit. I really do worry about the artificial sweetener and a 12 pack is too much by any standard. While I am not worried about caffeine itself, having that much all day long was actually making me chronically tired and my sleep wasn't great.

I didn't want to give up caffeine altogether because it does have some health benefits AND I need that punch in the morning and mid afternoon. I tend to drink my coffee black, so it's not like my caffeine comes swimming in fat and sugar (not that that isn't delicious). Anyway, when I found out I had high BP, one of the many things I read (in an actual book by a real doctor citing peer reviewed studies) was that two cups of drip coffee/day lowers blood pressure so I feel like ok with that amount.

As far as benefits, I sleep better and I'm not tired all day but that's probably more about getting my caf habit in check. While I do believe that artificial sweeteners are not good for you, especially in the massive quantities some of us are consuming, I don't think giving them up is some kind of miracle cure. Just like anything else, some people may be especially sensitive, but most of us are probably just fine.

One last word about Dr. Oz. - it's worth doing some reading on some of his claims. I am not anti-Dr. Oz. I think he's probably a good person. I've read several interviews with him and (credible) articles on him, I think he's very interested in new and non-traditional ideas and that's great. I also think that his platform is television and ratings count.

LaurieDawn
11-27-2013, 11:58 AM
Genetically manufactured e.coli feces in aspartame?! Now I think I really have heard it all.

I don't think that's very likely, or even theoretically possible.

E.coli is a bacteria that is common in feces, but it's also on your skin, right now! It's a bacteria that is virtually everywhere. If it's in aspartame, it's only there because it's EVERYWHERE and in virtually everything that hasn't been subjected to intense heat.

Even so, I would be surprised if a truckload of aspartame had as much e.coli bacteria as what's under your fingernails right now.

Mythbusting is not all glamour and good feelings, eh? I prefer the myth to this ugly, ugly truth. (And I actually have more faith in your reporting of actual truths than I do most media doctors.)

veggiedawg
11-27-2013, 05:03 PM
I too have scaled back on my Diet Coke drinking. It's one of those 'foods' that snowballs for me. I think, I'll enjoy one a day and it turns into 3. And then my kids want it and I know it's not healthy for any of us. So, I don't buy it in packs anymore.

I do let myself have one can from time to time. When we go out to dinner or just as a special treat. But, again, I'm only buying one can at a time and that works for me.

What I do buy in packs now is Sparkling Water. Presidents Choice makes the zero calorie/zero sugar/zero artificial flavours Blue Menu cans in Lemon, Lime and Orange. It took time for me to really like it but I like the fizz.

Good luck!

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Dr. Oz cracks me up. Every show is a weight loss trick, just like the Women's World magazine :)

Mad Donnelly
11-27-2013, 05:58 PM
Gee whiz!!!!!!! I didn`t ask for anyones opinion of Dr.Oz or diet coke. I am going to give up diet coke and continue watching Dr.Oz. What I had hoped was for people to post and tell how they got through withdrawls how long they dealt with them, what they drink now? I got one thank you for that. Everyone is so damn opinionated. I'm sorry I asked:mad:

I agree, I despise unsolicited advice. We get enough of that as it is. It's one of the reasons I seek out others who are doing as I do (low carb) because that is such a hot button. Personally, I believe aspartame is bad news, too; but mostly, I just HATE the taste of diet sodas. It may not be calories but it's still empty, it's so much better to drink water which is what I do. I have the occasional coffee or hot tea and iced tea I brew myself (no more mixes).

I don't know why anyone would be invested in what you drink to begin with let alone that you shouldn't drink diet soda because of Dr. Oz. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who no longer drink diet soda that have NOTHING to do with Dr. Oz since I've heard bad things about aspartame LONG before I ever heard of Dr. Oz.

Vex
11-27-2013, 08:35 PM
I actually saw that show and turned it off when he said, "it's impossible to lose weight while drinking diet soda."

Obviously not, as I've been drinking diet soda this entire time. (although no longer caffeine ones)

It drives me crazy when people say it's impossible to lose weight if you eat x food. It's not the food, it's the AMOUNT of it.

I commend you for giving up something you feel isn't good for you. Really any unnatural food probably isn't the best nutritional choice.

TheSecondHalf
11-27-2013, 10:34 PM
I agree, I despise unsolicited advice. We get enough of that as it is. It's one of the reasons I seek out others who are doing as I do (low carb) because that is such a hot button. Personally, I believe aspartame is bad news, too; but mostly, I just HATE the taste of diet sodas. It may not be calories but it's still empty, it's so much better to drink water which is what I do. I have the occasional coffee or hot tea and iced tea I brew myself (no more mixes).

I don't know why anyone would be invested in what you drink to begin with let alone that you shouldn't drink diet soda because of Dr. Oz. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who no longer drink diet soda that have NOTHING to do with Dr. Oz since I've heard bad things about aspartame LONG before I ever heard of Dr. Oz.


There are opinions and there are facts. Those aren't the same. When someone is using Dr. Oz as their TV doctor, it might be useful for them to know that many of his claims are shaky at best, often disproved, and fringe and/or junk science. Many of his "experts" have no relevant credentials.

There's an article in The New Yorker that makes a pretty good starting point if you're interested.

Also, due to some posts that have circulated via email and Facebook, some people have the idea that giving up Diet Coke is going to be the key to eternal weight loss and...its just not. I agree that cutting back (for some) and giving it up (for me, because I LOVE IT and can't drink just some, I want it ALL, ALL the time) is a good idea, but you're not going to suddenly start shedding weight effortlessly.

Mad Donnelly
11-28-2013, 12:35 AM
There are opinions and there are facts. Those aren't the same. When someone is using Dr. Oz as their TV doctor, it might be useful for them to know that many of his claims are shaky at best, often disproved, and fringe and/or junk science. Many of his "experts" have no relevant credentials.

There's an article in The New Yorker that makes a pretty good starting point if you're interested.

Also, due to some posts that have circulated via email and Facebook, some people have the idea that giving up Diet Coke is going to be the key to eternal weight loss and...its just not. I agree that cutting back (for some) and giving it up (for me, because I LOVE IT and can't drink just some, I want it ALL, ALL the time) is a good idea, but you're not going to suddenly start shedding weight effortlessly.
So Dr. Oz is the only person ever to say aspartame is bad and otherwise it's a really good thing? Personally, I don't ingest anything with aspartame so, no, I'm not particularly interested in reading anything more about it. Someone said they were going to give up diet soda. What's wrong with that whether it results in weight loss or not? Also personally I don't give a crap about Dr. Oz. I've never seen his show or know anything about what he espouses or doesn't espouse.

TheSecondHalf
11-28-2013, 01:16 AM
So Dr. Oz is the only person ever to say aspartame is bad and otherwise it's a really good thing? Personally, I don't ingest anything with aspartame so, no, I'm not particularly interested in reading anything more about it. Someone said they were going to give up diet soda. What's wrong with that whether it results in weight loss or not? Also personally I don't give a crap about Dr. Oz. I've never seen his show or know anything about what he espouses or doesn't espouse.

Maybe you are misreading me because I can't really figure out where the hostility is coming from? The OP mentioned Dr. Oz and someone else mentioned that you need to be careful about what you hear from him and do your own research because his facts can be kind of dodgy. The OP said she categorically did not believe that and I was adding to that conversation and suggesting some reading (about Dr. Oz, btw, not artificial sweeteners) that people might find interesting.

Anyway...

Back to the OP, I love Diet Coke and was really resistant to giving it up for a LONG time. I actually think artificial sweeteners in small doses are probably fine for most people but as I said, much as I'd like to, I can not make a case for drinking 12 per day (which is what I would normally do) and I'm not good at moderation so they had to go. I don't have an objection to some caffeine and like I said earlier, some caffeine and particularly drip coffee is actually good for things like high blood pressure. We have a locally made product called Cool Brew (you can order it online if you're interested and it comes in a variety of flavors. I like original). I have two shots in ice water (you can use milk, I'm not a huge milk fan) first thing every morning. I have a short double Americano from Starbucks mid afternoon. I have tried going off Diet Coke in the past and without the caffeine to get me through, I felt SO BAD...like flu symptom bad. I think that's why I could never hang with it. I was reduced to tears and a stressed out mess and my husband would always start suggesting maybe it wasn't a good time to give up the Diet Coke :dizzy: So helpful (not).

I also really like fizzy water like San Pellegrino, Perriier (especially grapefruit), and La Croix (lime). I don't drink tons but it's nice when I want something fizzy and a little more exciting than water. Other than that, I drink loads and loads of still water. I am so thirsty all the time! I have had a few Diet Cokes in the past few weeks - at someone's house, lunch with friends, but I think I have FINALLY turned the corner where it's a kind of low grade want and not a high priority craving.

Stick with it. It's hard, but you can do it!

kaplods
11-28-2013, 01:35 AM
The OP was not given any unsolicited advice. She was given what she ASKED FOR in her original post:

I am giving up a 25 year love affair with diet coke. I have been drinking a minimum of one 20 oz bottle a day to a six pack daily.
I`m on day two and have a killer headache. I could have weaned myself off but after watching an episode of Dr. Oz where he talked about how bad it is I don't want it anymore. I`m so excited that this will help greatly with my weight loss.
I wonder how long do the withdrawls last?
Does anybody have experience with this they can share?
Diet coke was the only thing I drank so now I`m only drinking water.
Thanks Kelly

"Does anybody have experience with this they can share?"

Nowhere does it say "but only if your experiences and opinions are 100% consistent with what I want to hear."


If you're only willing to hear only certain types of responses, at least have the decency to say so. Tell us what you are and aren't willing to hear. The vast majority of people will respect your wishes. I certainly wouldn't have wasted my time and energy sharing my experiences if I had known that only certain experiences were welcome. I wouldn't have wasted my time sharing my POV, if I had realized it wasn't really wanted, but if someone sends out a public request for opinions, I'm going to assume they actually expect people to have and share actual, real opinions. If you don't really mean it, don't ask.
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babyfattimes3
11-28-2013, 03:21 AM
This whole thread has gone so wrong. What is wrong with people? Where did I say I was using Dr. Oz as my tv doctor? What makes you think I live and breathe by the show? What in my post gave you the impression that I wanted to know what you think of the show, because I don`t care. Yes I asked for your experiences with CAFFEINE WITHDRAWLS. I didnt need leactures about "taking what he say's with a grain of salt." Where did I say I believed everything the man says. Unsolicited advice is the worse so are know it alls. Kaploid why are you here? Its obvious you think you know it all, your rude and snooty. Newsflash your **** stinks too! I certainly could have done with out your input. I'll never post here again I can't believe what group of opionated, closeminded , know it alls. Dr. Oz rules LOL
Go ahead put your two worthless cents on this one because I refuse to come back and waste a minute more of my time reading this garbage. Go trash someone elses posts throw your unsolicited advise and over bearing opinions. Kaploid careful don`t fall off your high horse.

To those who gave relivent advice thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving all