Weight Loss Support - Ready to quit! (Major tantrum to follow...)




novangel
10-17-2012, 11:37 AM
I don't know HOW but the scale says 150p this morning! :mad: How could I have gained 4 frickin' pounds in a week!? I didn't eat anything that warrants that much gain. It takes me a MONTH just to lose 1 pound! I'm sure some is water retention but WTH. I workout VERY hard, been busting my butt (this month especially) and I'm not feeling the love. I've had thyroid tests and I can't eat any less. I don't eat bad or binge just occasional cheat with Mexican food minus cheese and sour cream..no chips, pop, candy, cupcakes, twinkies...none of it. My body wants to be 150p period and I am tired of fighting with it. /whiteflag

I want to walk away and scream. 8 months of busting my butt (5-6 days a week of Jillian w/ 5-10p weights and now jogging) to only have lost a few pounds?? I should easily be close to 130's by now. Even if it is water retention I should weigh WAY less by now. 150's should be looooong gone. I feel like I am back where I started in Feb. I'm done!!

You win, Fat. You win. Congrats.


LockItUp
10-17-2012, 11:45 AM
:( I'm sorry you are so frustrated! That's a really tough place to be in.

I won't give any advice since you didn't ask for it. I definitely empathize! STUPID SCALE!

tubolard
10-17-2012, 11:51 AM
I hate my scale. I said I weighed 2 pounds more today than yesterday. I walked 4 miles plus did some step aerobics for 10 minutes. I did not eat too much, I track everything I eat and was NOT over on my calories. So where do they come from? I am on prescription h2o pills so i don't think it is water weight. Grrrrrrr.
I feel your discouragement and empathize so much with you. :hug: It is soooo frustrating to not see the results you know you should.


Robin41
10-17-2012, 11:51 AM
Here's what people don't want to hear, losing weight is about what you put in your mouth, it's not about gym time. Not saying that the exercise isn't great for you, but it isn't the key to losing weight.

What are you really eating, are you keeping track or just doing the cutting back and not eating X routine? You're not that far from a reasonable goal weight for your height; it may require more discipline on the food front from now on, but it certainly can be done. It's very easy to eat enough "healthy" food that you don't lose; it's about creating a deficit and you can't really know if you've done that if you don't keep track.

Desiderata
10-17-2012, 11:55 AM
:hug:

I've been frustrated lately too with the scale not moving, and increasingly less-at-peace with my pace of weight loss. (I started at the beginning of this year and haven't even cracked the 25lb mark yet.) So I feel you!

It's really frustrating when you are exerting 110% mental energy into wanting to lose weight but results are getting stymied by objectively less-than-100% choices - because you FEEL like you ought to see results for what you've done - after all, you're pouring so much mental energy into this - and even if things haven't been perfect, they should have been good enough for something!! (Not saying this is where you're at, but it's happened to me.)

On the other hand, I recently cracked down even harder on my counting/tracking/weighing food and upped my activity a bit - and I still am not seeing the results I expect. It would literally mean a break in the laws of physics not to have weight loss occur. Mathematically, I have absolutely created a deficit. So I *know* I have lost weight, and can instead feel frustrated because the scale isn't showing me yet. But I know it's there. It'll show up sooner or later. (Either that or I'm due for a Nobel Prize!)

Not sure if either of these scenarios resonates with you, but both have been true for me at different times I was frustrated. Either way, :hug: and empathy!

Arctic Mama
10-17-2012, 11:58 AM
If all other factors have been in line (diet, in particular, is THE crucial factor) then just use your mind and reason instead of emotion - the scale indicates ONE thing, and that is the sum total of your body's mass. It doesn't indicate composition or differentiate fat from muscle from digested matter from water. It doesn't tell you if hormones or infection is influencing our system. It doesn't indicate muscle repair. It isn't moral and it isn't comprehensive - the scale logs a single factor.

Are your measurements up? Pants tighter? What other systems do you have in place to keep yourself on track? If your food logs are clean andyour body is healthy andyour exercise is spot on, then the question becomes why a smart, sane, competent woman like yourself is giving so much power to an inanimate object, to the point of letting it affect your mood and self image? At some point you have to put your foot down and keep the power of how you feel with YOU, not project it onto whatever random and incomplete data the scale spits out.

I know it is hard and I have those days, too, where I give the scale WAY too much power. But a reality check is in order, here, and I'm happy to provide it ;)

bargoo
10-17-2012, 12:09 PM
Give me an honest answer. Are you having a tantrum over 3 pounds ?

VickieLou
10-17-2012, 12:53 PM
You can gain weight when it's that time of the month. Or just before it.

joefla70
10-17-2012, 12:55 PM
Give me an honest answer. Are you having a tantrum over 3 pounds ?

Well, it sounds like its 7 now. The tracker probably has not been adjusted to account for today's weigh-in. But I understand your point. :)

joefla70
10-17-2012, 12:59 PM
I hate my scale. I said I weighed 2 pounds more today than yesterday. I walked 4 miles plus did some step aerobics for 10 minutes. I did not eat too much, I track everything I eat and was NOT over on my calories. So where do they come from? I am on prescription h2o pills so i don't think it is water weight. Grrrrrrr.
I feel your discouragement and empathize so much with you. :hug: It is soooo frustrating to not see the results you know you should.

I used to have a panic attack (well, maybe not panic, but I would get concerned) if my weight went up a couple pounds during the week. I weigh myself every day, but my official weigh-ins are on Sunday. I have learned not to panic anymore if there are fluctuations during the week. All that matters is what the result is from week to week. Now, if I gain a couple pounds from one week to the next, then I know I need to correct something. But every time I have previously 'panicked' over a day-to-day weight gain, that panic disappeared on Sunday when I realized that I had a good weight loss that week. Now, that is all that I pay attention to.

novangel
10-17-2012, 01:07 PM
Give me an honest answer. Are you having a tantrum over 3 pounds ?

Yes, I am.

Two reasons: 1) Because when you go on a mission to lose a measly 15p, lose 9 after 8 freaking months and gain back 4p it's different than when you've lost 35+ pounds and gain back 4p. It's extremely hard to lose when you have less to lose so any gain feels like a major set back. 2) With all I've done I feel I should be at goal by now. I've never had a tantrum before on 3FC so it's my turn. Let me have my meltdown.

FTR, I have lost 35p in the past like it was nothing, why this is such a grueling ordeal I have no idea. Could be age, could be that I don't smoke anymore, could be meds although nothing I have read says my medication is an issue but I will ask my doctor. Who knows.

I other news I just ran 35 minutes at 171bpm average and I will have to monitor my food much more closely I suppose. In the meantime I will just hope it's water retention. Pants feel about the same, maybe a hair tighter.

Thanks for letting me vent, everyone. I'm not quitting I'm just frustrated.

XLMuffnTop
10-17-2012, 01:10 PM
To reiterate what a few others have said, take measurements and be mindful of water and TOM. I blow up the week before TOM then it all comes off plus a little extra, keep in mind I'm not even within eyesight of 150. :)

If you're working out that much, especially strength training, it could be that you are slimming up without actually losing weight. As I continue to add strength training (limited because I'm weak and have little T-Rex arms) I'm trying to remind myself that the scale is a tiny, tiny part of the bigger equation. It doesn't tell us muscle vs fat, it doesn't tell us our bone structure, it doesn't tell us how fit and healthy we are. It tells us how much we weigh at a given point in time which fluctuates by the hour, sometimes even less.

If it's frustrating you that much, lock it up, get a seamstress measuring tape or a slightly snug pair of jeans and go from there.

novangel
10-17-2012, 01:15 PM
Well, it sounds like its 7 now. The tracker probably has not been adjusted to account for today's weigh-in. But I understand your point. :)

It's 4 pounds, if it was 7 I'd really lose it. I will wait a few days and weigh in again. TOM is due in 7 days but I usually don't blow up until a few days before, maybe this month is different.

ETA: My whole gripe isn't so much about 4p it's that I should be at goal by now. 8 months is a ridiculous amount of time to have only lost a few pounds. Most people lose several pounds a month when I am lucky to lose .5 or 1. Very frustrating.

Brandis
10-17-2012, 01:29 PM
Give me an honest answer. Are you having a tantrum over 3 pounds ?

I'm laughing (at me not you), because I have had many tantrums over 3 lbs- or less!

On the original post topic, I feel for you. It is exceedingly frustrating to work really hard and have nothing happen. Just keep going, because you will gain more and be even more upset. You will get there, just log every single thing you eat and keep your exercise mixed up. (Dedication fairy boinks you on the head with wand:dizzy:).

:carrot:

Arctic Mama
10-17-2012, 01:29 PM
You're not most people, you're you! That means there aren't any hard and fast rules, because your body is unique. I can give dietary recommendations, for example, that might help stubborn weight loss, but it STILL won't make you a standard test case. You're a special snowflake in that regard ;)

Mer du Japon
10-17-2012, 01:44 PM
I suggest seeing a nutritionist.

It worked for me, to have a professional sit down with me and assess my food intake, exercise, goal weight, etc.

angieand2girls
10-17-2012, 02:12 PM
If all other factors have been in line (diet, in particular, is THE crucial factor) then just use your mind and reason instead of emotion - the scale indicates ONE thing, and that is the sum total of your body's mass. It doesn't indicate composition or differentiate fat from muscle from digested matter from water. It doesn't tell you if hormones or infection is influencing our system. It doesn't indicate muscle repair. It isn't moral and it isn't comprehensive - the scale logs a single factor.

Are your measurements up? Pants tighter? What other systems do you have in place to keep yourself on track? If your food logs are clean andyour body is healthy andyour exercise is spot on, then the question becomes why a smart, sane, competent woman like yourself is giving so much power to an inanimate object, to the point of letting it affect your mood and self image? At some point you have to put your foot down and keep the power of how you feel with YOU, not project it onto whatever random and incomplete data the scale spits out.

I know it is hard and I have those days, too, where I give the scale WAY too much power. But a reality check is in order, here, and I'm happy to provide it ;)

YES YES YES!!! You said it so much better than I could have lol. TAKE YOUR POWER BACK!! The scale doesn't own it unless you give it to it.

gatorgirl6
10-17-2012, 02:40 PM
My whole gripe isn't so much about 4p it's that I should be at goal by now. 8 months is a ridiculous amount of time to have only lost a few pounds. Most people lose several pounds a month when I am lucky to lose .5 or 1. Very frustrating.

First of all, I am all for venting. I am happy to sit here and listen to you as I have for others and hope people will for me. My only two cents, which you are allowed to ignore or not, is that comparing yourself to others really doesn't help you. Yes, lots of people on this site lose several pounds each month. I lose about 4-5. BUT, unlike you, the vast majority of people here aren't within a normal weight range. It is harder because when you lose 1 lb you are losing a larger percent of your mass than each lb others lose. It is hard. We all agree with that. But we are here to support you. If you want to recite your diet and exercise plan, I am sure you will get a billion opinions on how you can lose better/faster/etc. My advice is know we are here and continue to work till you reach your goal. Good luck.

carter
10-17-2012, 03:20 PM
Most people lose several pounds a month when I am lucky to lose .5 or 1. Very frustrating.

I don't think it's true that most people who are as close to a healthy weight as you are lose several pounds a month. I know it's been a long, long time since I've lost several pounds in a month.

The least you can do for yourself, is not compare yourself to imaginary people!

juliastl27
10-17-2012, 03:21 PM
im also interested in which plan you're following? maybe its just not the right one for you

JohnP
10-17-2012, 04:44 PM
I personally don't own a scale any more because it doesn't matter what the scale says.

I understand why many people will disagree but I personally use a body fat measuring device called a caliper and use that about once a week on different parts of my body where I tend to accumulate fat. The reason I do this is because the scale doesn't measure body fat and body fat percentage is the only thing I care about.

As to losing more fat - you don't say you're looking for advice but I'm sure we could give you some if had more information. Losing the last few lbs is very difficult for most people.

NolaMama
10-17-2012, 04:53 PM
im also interested in which plan you're following? maybe its just not the right one for you

I was going to say this as well. I know that once you become closer to your goal it becomes more difficult to lose. Which is why (imo) it's important to change things up... Whether it be your exercise routine or your diet in order to get to that goal.

novangel
10-17-2012, 05:06 PM
I use MFP to gauge my cal allowance. I exercise 5-6 days a week with Jillian's Ripped In 30 using 5 and 10p weights; other days I jog for minimum 40-60 minutes. I sometimes eat back my extra workout cals, sometimes I don't. Depends how hungry I am that day.

happynottsgirl
10-18-2012, 03:01 PM
I think that at this stage you need to track measurements and not weight.

KarenMI
10-18-2012, 04:14 PM
I use MFP to gauge my cal allowance. I exercise 5-6 days a week with Jillian's Ripped In 30 using 5 and 10p weights; other days I jog for minimum 40-60 minutes. I sometimes eat back my extra workout cals, sometimes I don't. Depends how hungry I am that day.

Workout calories can be really hard to calculate accurately, so can be dangerous to "eat back." Most machines are very inaccurate, and even heart rate monitors can be off. None subtract what you'd "normally" be burning from the total either.

Hang in there and try to step back and figure it out without letting temporary discouragement get to you!

novangel
10-18-2012, 07:25 PM
Workout calories can be really hard to calculate accurately, so can be dangerous to "eat back." Most machines are very inaccurate, and even heart rate monitors can be off. None subtract what you'd "normally" be burning from the total either.

Hang in there and try to step back and figure it out without letting temporary discouragement get to you!

You're correct that's why I usually underestimate calories burned just to be on the safe side. I won't let it get to me; I'm pretty much over it today. ;)

JohnP, I agree with ditching the scale it drives me batty...I don't know why I (and most other people) obsess over a number but I just do. It's like wanting to see your progress in stone. For some reason we trust a scale more than a measuring tape. Totally irrational, I know.

Thanks everyone, I just wanted to blow off steam somewhere. :)