Ideal Protein Diet - Cheese?




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smile2laugh
05-03-2012, 07:42 PM
I have seen a lot of recipes with cheese in it - vegan cheese? On phase 1 what's allowed and what's good? And where do I find it at the store? I really crave cheese!


ferrousgal
05-03-2012, 08:49 PM
I'd be interested in knowing too! That's the one big difference I've seen between this diet and Atkins is the complete lack of cheese, half & half, etc.. So many of my standard low carb recipes involved cheese.

skinnybride2be
05-03-2012, 08:56 PM
Same here! I love cheese! One of the hardest things i've had to go without! So far I haven't seen anything I can use on P1. Any suggestions from our pros?


Kaypix
05-03-2012, 09:42 PM
I miss every variety of cheese imaginable , and basically dairy in general. Not even doing the 1oz / day of milk cuz I don't drink coffee...on meds so caffein = no good...to me it'd be the equivalent of watching cinemax if I walked through the dairy aisle at the grocery store...

0ojoyo0
05-03-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm a newbie too, but I think the reason cheese isn't allowed is because of the amount of fat and calories in it. That's why the IP diet is not like Atkins; because Atkins is low Carb but not low calories or fat, while IP is low Carb, low calories, and low fat.

Edit: not sure which 'carbs' is capitalized, I'm typing from my tablet...

Kaypix
05-03-2012, 10:55 PM
Yep I believe that doesn't help the weight loss, adding fat that we just have to go burn anyways...

DanafromAustin
05-03-2012, 11:07 PM
I'd be interested in knowing too! That's the one big difference I've seen between this diet and Atkins is the complete lack of cheese, half & half, etc.. So many of my standard low carb recipes involved cheese.

No cheese on IP because this is a low fat diet where Atkins isn't. Once I go into maintance I'm adding fat back into my diet as I fully believe fat isn't the issue, it's carbs. However IP says low fat, so I haven't had any cheese since last September, and boy do I love just about any kind of cheese.

YankeeFan14040
05-04-2012, 07:06 AM
I do remember a while back where someone was able to substitute the vegetarian vegetable cheese 2x week in place of 1 serving of vegetables. Try searching the threads.

asathya
05-04-2012, 07:31 AM
Without cheese we are not able to do pitzza and some more recepies. It is a delicious food to have.. so dont miss it.

smile2laugh
05-06-2012, 05:35 PM
So is that the answer? -- no cheese at all.. not even vegetable cheese allowed.
:(

mtnsun4
05-06-2012, 05:41 PM
I use veggie cheese sparingly.

LizRR
05-06-2012, 05:45 PM
Talk with your coach after going through your journal and WI history (in case you may be 'sensitive' to extras), but some folks - including Wuv - use veggie cheese sparingly w/their coach's blessing. I actually just picked up a small package of Veggie Shreds cheddar & pepper jack flavor stats:
Serving size: 1/4 cup <--sparingly is probably less than this
Serving/Container: 7
Calories: 60
Calories from Fat: 35
Fat: 4g
Carbs: 1g
Fiber 0g, Sugar 0g
Protein: 6g

*post this in the daily chat thread and you'll probably get better feedback from folks who have been adding it in.

smile2laugh
05-06-2012, 06:06 PM
My coach never said a word about a journal. He is very nice but I don't think he is an expert on this diet. ( not to mention he looks like my son's age-college boy)

LizRR
05-06-2012, 06:15 PM
My coach never said a word about a journal. He is very nice but I don't think he is an expert on this diet. ( not to mention he looks like my son's age-college boy)

You don't keep a food journal? It is one of my key tools to staying on track and my coach regularly and thoroughly goes through it each visit to make sure I am OP. If you run into any loss obstacles I would see it as invaluable to tracking tweaks needed to get the scale moving. I get a new journal from my coach each month that's obviously IP stamped that has a place to mark my food, water, supplements, and activity level.

Momto2cs
05-06-2012, 07:54 PM
No cheese on IP because this is a low fat diet where Atkins isn't. Once I go into maintance I'm adding fat back into my diet as I fully believe fat isn't the issue, it's carbs. However IP says low fat, so I haven't had any cheese since last September, and boy do I love just about any kind of cheese.

I agree. My only criticism of ip is that I think it is too low in fat. But it works...
In maintenance I have not added back in very many carbs, but I embrace the fat! Seems to work for me.

jenn04
05-06-2012, 09:58 PM
Found veggie cheese at winn dixie by the bagged lettace its made with soy

Ei8ht
05-06-2012, 11:16 PM
I thought IP didn't allow dairy in general because of their lactose content (sugar).. If that's the case, hard cheese (or aged) which hardly has any lactose, should be allowed provided it's not too caloric, right?

I miss cheese - and I'm only on day eleven!

JoesHotWife
05-07-2012, 01:23 AM
Quote from the IP Clinic manual - "During Phases 1 & 2, dairy products with 0% fat are not permitted, they contain lactose: i.e. have sugar and calories"

It has to do with the milk sugar and concentrated calories rather than the fat content. Hope this helps. As far as the vegan cheese, that is somthing you would need to check with your coach about.

Paint Lady
05-07-2012, 11:16 AM
I bought the veggie cheese while in phase 1 and ate 1 slice. I threw the rest of the pack in the garbage. I tried to feed a piece to my mom's dog and he turned his nose up at it.

photogirl74
05-20-2012, 12:46 PM
I miss cheese and dairy horribly. I understand the lactose = sugar thing but as mentioned above, aged cheese, like parm or a very sharp cheddar, would be low in lactose. I feel like i'm missing key nutrients by skipping dairy. (I know, I know.. it's in the packs)

When I did Medifast, I used veggie cheeses and found fat free Soya Kaas to work really well. The mozzaralla or cheddar come in a block and I could divide it into 1 oz cubes for part of my protein serving. It was great shredded on top of the soup or a roasted mushroom
Soya Kaas FF Mozzarella Flavor:
1 oz serving
36 cal
0g fat
0mg chol
240mg sodium
1carb
7 g protein

The white cheddar Soya Kaas flavor was decent too but it didn't come in FF or a block. Just slices.
Also liked Veggie shreds in something like a stuffed pepper.
I think i may need to talk to my coach about this...

enr20707
05-20-2012, 01:07 PM
i just finished reading dr.tran's book, he does say to stay away from all dairy, but my coach said 1oz of skim milk is ok.

wendywendy
05-20-2012, 08:13 PM
You don't keep a food journal? It is one of my key tools to staying on track and my coach regularly and thoroughly goes through it each visit to make sure I am OP. If you run into any loss obstacles I would see it as invaluable to tracking tweaks needed to get the scale moving. I get a new journal from my coach each month that's obviously IP stamped that has a place to mark my food, water, supplements, and activity level.

My coach never suggested a journal either. But what you said makes sense so i think i will start one anyways...

KBig
05-21-2012, 05:36 PM
no cheese.. and its killing me. I am in my 6th week on IP. I purchased the veg cheese but I havent used it yet. and I dont think I will ... my 5.8 lbs loss (and during my TOM!!!) inspired me to keep it won'hunnid.

New Englander
05-21-2012, 05:59 PM
I also missed cheese and realized that's a big reason I got so darn fat... Love Cheese!!!