General chatter - New Puppy
08-08-2010, 08:05 PM
My 3yr old keeps asking for a puppy, only thing is we have a very busy work week and I feel like the puppy would be spending more time by its self then with us, we would be able to see it in the wee early morning evenings and the weekeds. Anyone know of a low maintenance dog, that does not mind being kenel kept during the day?
08-08-2010, 08:27 PM
Well, I'd suggest that you don't let your 3 year old dictate such a huge responsibility in your life. If you really want a dog and think it is doable, then I'd say start looking into the feasibility.
Adult dogs shouldn't be left home by themselves more than 8 hours/day and puppies are an entirely different matter. Ideally, you'd let them outside to relieve themselves every 2-3 hours.
So if you wanted a dog, I'd suggest you look at an adult. There are a lot of rescues that can give you an idea of a dogs temperament including whether they are lower energy and good with kids.
My husband and I both work long hours but we stagger our hours so that the dogs are home alone at max 7-8 hours, usually closer to 7. So I go in earlier, come home earlier, husband leaves later, comes home later. We also do doggie day care/twice week.
If you think you would be able to work an arrangement where the dog wasn't alone by itself too long, then I'd definitely say look into it but really only if the adults in the household want a dog.
Otherwise, I'd say get a cat. (although my cats are needy too)
08-08-2010, 10:12 PM
Do you have a backyard the dog could be in when your gone for the day? Or If you get a older well trained dog you could just let him have the whole house when your gone.
My shadow is just fine when we are gone how ever my 9 month old min pin I can't trust alone mostly becuse she is still a pup. My min pin was hard to house break! I to clean out there kennel almost every morning along with giving her a bath because she could not hold it at night. This lasted about 3 months. However min pins are notoriously hard to house break.
I think you should really evaluate whether you have then time to care for a dog. If you want the dog as well then go for it, but if it's just your three year old I would hold off till shes older and can take care of the dog herself.
08-08-2010, 10:40 PM
I would not get a dog for a three year old. I would get a dog only if you and your husband really, really want a dog for yourselves as well. And then, I think it is a sad life for a dog who stays by itself all day but I know a lot of people have no choice. Dogs are really like getting another child, if you care for them as they deserve. Can you really handle this along with your child's needs?
My family has a trouble having animals
because my 4 year old brother always
hits the animals. He thinks they're a play
toy and we're always on him about leaving
the cat alone that we have. We also have
a huge lab who's the sweetest things ever
and she doesn't mind my young brother
jumping on her or messing with her ears.
She just gets up and leaves. Smart dog. :lol:
I guess my point is is that toddlers will be
toddlers. Before getting a dog ask yourself
if he/she will mess with it a lot. Me and my
fiancÚ have talked about getting a yorkie
puppy once we get our own apartment because
it is impossible having it around my big family
and especially my younger brother.
08-08-2010, 11:51 PM
My daughter wanted a dog when she was 5 and my youngest was 2 at the time. I wanted a dog also but after getting a dog from the shelter a couple of years ago, I was nervous. I adopted a black lab who was full grown in 2005 from a shelter and I just was not prepared and it did not work out and I took her back to the shelter. So fast forward to 2009 my husband was deployed but nearing the end of his deployment in a couple of months. Also after watching several episodes of Dog Whisperer I felt confident enough on how to deal with dogs. I love that show and he really helped me understand dogs and how to set boundaries and rules.
Well in 2009 I decided to get a great pyrenees (GP) puppy, my dog did not come from a regular breeder. This lady had GP guarding her animals and the dog got pregnant, I know irresponsible but we are happy. We got her when she turned 6 weeks old, and believe me taking care of a puppy is like having a new born baby. Puppies require a lot of attention and be prepared to stand outside at 12am, 3am, 5am to take the dog to pee or poop. Puppies have to go to the bathroom often and thankfully my dog was potty trained by the time she was 8 weeks old but it took tons of work, and she still needed to go out often at night. I clicker trained her to go potty, I would click the clicker and say "go business" and eventually she understood what that meant and it shortened the time that we would have to spend outside waiting for her to pee. Also my dog was kept outside with the sheep since her parents were livestock guardians, so she loved being outside as a puppy and we would spend most of our time outside.
Also we kennel trained our dog and this is a really good way to keep them from peeing in the house and if they do pee in the kennel you pull the tray out and rinse it off vs having to pull out the carpet cleaner and stuff. Our dog is now a little over a year old and we love her like our own biological child. She also has rules and we still use her kennel for bedtime with door closed but during the day she is allowed to roam the downstairs of the house where we are. She's not allowed upstairs (2nd level) because she eats things in my daughters room and then vomits. So yes the new rule is she can't be upstairs. I'm a stay at home mom so she is around me all day and is never alone.
Even though my dog is a little over a year old, taking care of her still requires a lot of attention. Raising a dog does get easier but if you don't have the time because you are busy, then my advice is to just wait and don't get a dog right now. My dogs vet has dogs that she leaves in the kennel for 8 hours while she is at work. I think 8 hours especially during the day is too long and it wouldn't be fair for the dog but this is just my opinion. Also you have to worry about the shedding, we vacuum several times a week and we still end up pulling fur out of our mouths and food sometimes but as gross as that sounds we are used to it lol. Also when your dog gets sick and has diarrhea you have to be prepared to clean it up, as well as vomit. Also getting the dog vaccinated and up to date with shots. Our dog is around 60 lbs (guesstimate) and eats lots of dog food. Having a dog is a huge lifelong commitment but as hard as it is I could never imagine my life with out Daisy (dog).
My kids also love her but you have to set limits with them, we got a big dog for that reason. My kids would be to rough with a small dog and plus we are a big dog family and also when my husband is gone we feel safe when Daisy is around because she will let us know if any one comes in the house that isn't supposed to be there. Also research the breed of the dog that you want, GP are known for barking at night especially if left outside at night. But when she is in the house she rarely barks because she knows that I don't like that so she does a warning bark and then stops.
Well sorry this is such a long post but I just wanted to show the good and the bad about owning a dog, my dog understands me way more then anyone. She can look at me and knows if I'm mad or happy. But ultimately it is up to you if a dog will fit in your family but just be prepared to do 90+% of the work when it comes to the dog. Good Luck
08-09-2010, 06:27 AM
Please don't get a dog if you are going to have to leave it as much as you say you are! Your last sentence sounds very naive.
There is no such thing as a low-maitenance dog. They are SO much hard work and if you don't put almost as much effort into raising one as you would a child, you can end up with some serious behavioural problems. There are too many dogs with 'issues' in pounds already.
Dogs need companionship, just like we do. You can't just leave it on it's own all day - especially a puppy. It would be selfish, unfair and in my opinion - abusive.
I would suggest you research, research and research some more. Do some serious thinking. Also - what kid doesn't want a dog or a pet? A 3 year old has no idea what owning a dog entails, it shouldn't even factor in.
08-09-2010, 08:16 AM
I love my dog, he's great with my daughter and I love having a dog in our lives. I just love dogs in general. However, a puppy is like a toddler in a lot ways and almost as needy. I would not get a dog if my family were never home to be with the dog. Bored dogs are destructive dogs and they're harder to train when you're not around the majority of the time. Three years old is prime time for "look what happens when I pull the dogs tail" and it's HARD to get the kid and the dog through that phase without any incidents.
I would say wait till you're going to be home more or your child is much older, or try a different pet.
08-09-2010, 12:47 PM
Fur Real Friends. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_hi_2?rh=n%3A165793011%2Ck%3AFur+Real++&keywords=Fur+Real++&ie=UTF8&qid=1281371976)
The perfect dog for a toddler :) A child only sees the cuteness factor of a pet and can't begin to comprehend the responsibilities or other realities involved in caring for a live animal. Fortunately there are substitutes such as the Fur Real Friends than can provide all of the cuteness, and can be tucked in the toy box at the end of the day :) Some wiggle their noses, some roll over, and there's even a full size big one that can do a lot of tricks. He's expensive, but still costs less than puppy shots and neutering.
But to answer your original question, I can't think of any breed of dog that would be happy left kenneled alone all day, especially a puppy. Puppies in particular need much more attention than could be provided under those circumstances.
08-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Please do not get a dog if you can only spend time with it in the early mornings and weekends. A dog lives around 12-15 years, wouldn't it be tragic if an animal had to stay crated and alone for an amount equivalent of 8-10 years of it's life? A 3 year old does not have a true concept of a dog being a living creature with emotional needs, it is a toy to them.
L R K
08-09-2010, 03:00 PM
No puppy is low maintenace.
If you don't have time for a puppy do not get one.
I agree with Nelie "I'd suggest that you don't let your 3 year old dictate such a huge responsibility in your life."
This is how dogs end up in shelters.