Leenie
10-17-2009, 05:25 PM
Post about the phases here :)
Ideal Protein Diet - Ideal Protein Diet - Phases
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Lilita175
11-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Okay, I'll get this thread started so it doesn't get taken away.
Phase I is very low calorie, low carb and low fat.
Phase I includes 3 Ideal Protein Packets per day and one regular (restricted) meal that can be eaten at any time (lunch, dinner or even breakfast.) Phase I includes lettuce salads and some (not all) vegetables and some mandatory vitamin and mineral supplements.
The packets are powdered soups, shakes, and small portions of chili, spaghetti and hearty stew that are mixed with water to prepare. Protein bars can be used instead of a packet. Some packets and the bars are restricted to once a day.
Phase I is the most restricted and I was told I would be on it until I reached 80% of my goal weight at which time I would go to Phase II which I think means I will go down to 2 IP packets per day and 2 regular meals per day.
I have been on Phase I for 3 weeks and have lost 17 pounds. I have not cheated. I am down to one pair of jeans (loose size 14) I am 5'8"
I threw out 3 pairs of size 16 jeans that were too baggy on me.
My motivation to go on this diet were my brother who lost 90 pounds and his wife who lost over 40 pounds in one year. They both look great. My other brother and my 3 sisters and I plus several nieces and nephews all recently started on this diet and we are all having great success.
The first 3 days are the hardest.
I am in my fourth week and I am almost never hungry. I am eating according to the plan but I have lost interest in most foods. I can even watch the food channel and it doesn't cause me any cravings. I sit in restaurants and am not tempted by other people's dishes.
I highly recommend this diet if you want fast results. But you have to be ready to commit to it and be prepared to NOT CHEAT. If you cheat, it just won't work and you are wasting your time and money.
Phase I is very low calorie, low carb and low fat.
Phase I includes 3 Ideal Protein Packets per day and one regular (restricted) meal that can be eaten at any time (lunch, dinner or even breakfast.) Phase I includes lettuce salads and some (not all) vegetables and some mandatory vitamin and mineral supplements.
The packets are powdered soups, shakes, and small portions of chili, spaghetti and hearty stew that are mixed with water to prepare. Protein bars can be used instead of a packet. Some packets and the bars are restricted to once a day.
Phase I is the most restricted and I was told I would be on it until I reached 80% of my goal weight at which time I would go to Phase II which I think means I will go down to 2 IP packets per day and 2 regular meals per day.
I have been on Phase I for 3 weeks and have lost 17 pounds. I have not cheated. I am down to one pair of jeans (loose size 14) I am 5'8"
I threw out 3 pairs of size 16 jeans that were too baggy on me.
My motivation to go on this diet were my brother who lost 90 pounds and his wife who lost over 40 pounds in one year. They both look great. My other brother and my 3 sisters and I plus several nieces and nephews all recently started on this diet and we are all having great success.
The first 3 days are the hardest.
I am in my fourth week and I am almost never hungry. I am eating according to the plan but I have lost interest in most foods. I can even watch the food channel and it doesn't cause me any cravings. I sit in restaurants and am not tempted by other people's dishes.
I highly recommend this diet if you want fast results. But you have to be ready to commit to it and be prepared to NOT CHEAT. If you cheat, it just won't work and you are wasting your time and money.
Ogdog13
12-08-2009, 02:49 PM
The second phase lasts between one and two weeks.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
b) Noon:
- Raw or cooked green vegetables.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 to 6 oz. lean fish. You may have fattier meat or fish 3 to 4 times a week.
- 2 tablespoons oil for flavor.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch: 5 oz. lean meat or poultry with green vegetables.
You may have 1 to 2 dairy products per day, such as plain yogurt or 2% cottage cheese.
Comments: The second phase closely resembles the first phase, as your diet still excludes carbohydrates and ketosis continues.
I now tend to shorten this phase to less than one week so that the first phase can be extended as long as possible and protein packets are used for a late-afternoon or evening snack.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
b) Noon:
- Raw or cooked green vegetables.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 to 6 oz. lean fish. You may have fattier meat or fish 3 to 4 times a week.
- 2 tablespoons oil for flavor.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch: 5 oz. lean meat or poultry with green vegetables.
You may have 1 to 2 dairy products per day, such as plain yogurt or 2% cottage cheese.
Comments: The second phase closely resembles the first phase, as your diet still excludes carbohydrates and ketosis continues.
I now tend to shorten this phase to less than one week so that the first phase can be extended as long as possible and protein packets are used for a late-afternoon or evening snack.
Ogdog13
12-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Carbohydrates are reintroduced to your diet during this phase.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered (or use light butter).
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- One dairy product: partly skimmed milk, plain yogurt or cottage cheese.
- A fruit or freshly squeezed fruit juice (fruit is optional at this point).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables. All vegetables, including artichokes, carrots, etc., are now allowed.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 oz. fish (all fish are allowed).
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- Optional: yogurt.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit, if you did not have a fruit for breakfast, or 1 protein packet.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch:
- 5 oz. meat, poultry or fish.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 1 serving of yogurt or cottage cheese.
Comments: The intermediate phase should last no longer than two weeks, because you’re on an unbalanced diet that lacks slow carbs!
Note: Very often, many dieters start off their diet with the third phase because they think it’s a balanced, low-calorie diet, but they’re wrong!
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered (or use light butter).
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- One dairy product: partly skimmed milk, plain yogurt or cottage cheese.
- A fruit or freshly squeezed fruit juice (fruit is optional at this point).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables. All vegetables, including artichokes, carrots, etc., are now allowed.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 oz. fish (all fish are allowed).
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- Optional: yogurt.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit, if you did not have a fruit for breakfast, or 1 protein packet.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch:
- 5 oz. meat, poultry or fish.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 1 serving of yogurt or cottage cheese.
Comments: The intermediate phase should last no longer than two weeks, because you’re on an unbalanced diet that lacks slow carbs!
Note: Very often, many dieters start off their diet with the third phase because they think it’s a balanced, low-calorie diet, but they’re wrong!
Ogdog13
12-08-2009, 02:51 PM
I. First Step: Your Everyday Diet
Maintenance is a two-step process.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 to 2.5 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered or a small amount of sugar-free jam.
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- A fruit and a dairy product.
- Optional: an egg or a slice of ham or 1 to 1.5 oz. cheese (preferably hard cheese).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables.
- 6 to 7 oz. meat or fish. All meats and fish are now allowed, but be sure to go for lean meats and avoid sauces.
- As many vegetables as you like. This meal contains little to no carbs (starchy foods or bread). You’ll have your carbs for dinner…
- 1 tablespoon oil or more, because you can’t always control what you eat at a restaurant.
- One serving of yogurt or a piece of cheese (about 1.5 oz.).
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit or, better yet, a protein packet or bar. There’s no harm in having a snack.
d) Evening:
- As many vegetables as you want: in a soup, raw or steamed. Soups are best in the evening.
- A plate of slow-carb foods: 0.5 to 1 oz. rice, pasta, lentils, semolina, dried beans, quinoa, potatoes, etc.
- Go easy on the fat when preparing dinner (see below). Use no more than 1 tablespoon of oil.
- Optional: some lean animal protein, because you don’t really need to have meat twice a day. At the very most, you may have 3.5 oz. white fish or 3 oz. lean ham or deli chicken, a can of plain tuna or seafood.
- For dessert: 1 serving of yogurt, 1 fruit or 1 serving of stewed fruit. Some recommend that you have fruit as a snack. You may have a fruit if you want, but you don’t have to. Comment: You can switch lunch and dinner and have your carbs for lunch and proteins for dinner. As a rule, avoid having fat with your dinner. It’s bad for digestion and sleep, and it promotes acid reflux at night.
Stabilization Phase Principles or Rules
1. Food separation, or bad and good food combinations, is essential during the maintenance phase. I recommend that you separate carbs and fats like a teacher separates two troublesome students. Carbohydrates tend to cause weight gain and so does fat, which is why they are separated. Here’s the basic rule: a meal that is rich in starchy foods should contain little to no fat and vice versa. Note: You do not need to separate carbs and proteins if the proteins contain no fat, as is the case with white fish, for example. A meal consisting of a starchy food (rice, potato) and white fish will not make you gain weight.
2. Should do you eat slow carbs for lunch or dinner? Contrary to popular belief, you should eat slow carbs for dinner, but that’s not carved in stone. When you lunch at a restaurant or cafeteria, you might have a hard time finding starchy foods (rice, pasta or potatoes) prepared without fat, and meat and fish are often served with a sauce. If that’s the case, it’s best to go with a meal consisting of animal proteins and raw or cooked veggies that’s prepared with a small amount of fat or sauce. You’ll have to forgo starchy foods and bread, though. For dinner, have slow carbs with as many vegetables as you want. It’s much easier to control fat intake when you dine in. For example, you can prepare spaghetti with some fresh tomato, garlic, basil and a touch of olive oil. Have as many veggies as you like. You may have some lean protein, like 3.5 oz. white fish, 3 oz. lean ham, or even some extra lean ground beef. However, there’s no need to have meat twice a day.
It’s wrong to think that if you have slow carbs for lunch, you’ll be able to burn them throughout the afternoon and that if you have slow carbs for dinner, your body might store them. It’s not that simple. Your body doesn’t use up your lunch during the afternoon. It must digest your lunch, convert it and assimilate it before it can use it for energy. Active people and athletes have pasta for dinner, but they don’t go out and run at night. Similarly, the Tour de France has never been held at night!
At night, your body goes through a long period of fasting, rests and recharges its batteries for the next day (just like a cell phone). You’d be making a serious mistake if you eliminated or reduced your evening dinner. Finally, slow carbs are filling and easy to digest.
Maintenance is a two-step process.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 to 2.5 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered or a small amount of sugar-free jam.
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- A fruit and a dairy product.
- Optional: an egg or a slice of ham or 1 to 1.5 oz. cheese (preferably hard cheese).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables.
- 6 to 7 oz. meat or fish. All meats and fish are now allowed, but be sure to go for lean meats and avoid sauces.
- As many vegetables as you like. This meal contains little to no carbs (starchy foods or bread). You’ll have your carbs for dinner…
- 1 tablespoon oil or more, because you can’t always control what you eat at a restaurant.
- One serving of yogurt or a piece of cheese (about 1.5 oz.).
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit or, better yet, a protein packet or bar. There’s no harm in having a snack.
d) Evening:
- As many vegetables as you want: in a soup, raw or steamed. Soups are best in the evening.
- A plate of slow-carb foods: 0.5 to 1 oz. rice, pasta, lentils, semolina, dried beans, quinoa, potatoes, etc.
- Go easy on the fat when preparing dinner (see below). Use no more than 1 tablespoon of oil.
- Optional: some lean animal protein, because you don’t really need to have meat twice a day. At the very most, you may have 3.5 oz. white fish or 3 oz. lean ham or deli chicken, a can of plain tuna or seafood.
- For dessert: 1 serving of yogurt, 1 fruit or 1 serving of stewed fruit. Some recommend that you have fruit as a snack. You may have a fruit if you want, but you don’t have to. Comment: You can switch lunch and dinner and have your carbs for lunch and proteins for dinner. As a rule, avoid having fat with your dinner. It’s bad for digestion and sleep, and it promotes acid reflux at night.
Stabilization Phase Principles or Rules
1. Food separation, or bad and good food combinations, is essential during the maintenance phase. I recommend that you separate carbs and fats like a teacher separates two troublesome students. Carbohydrates tend to cause weight gain and so does fat, which is why they are separated. Here’s the basic rule: a meal that is rich in starchy foods should contain little to no fat and vice versa. Note: You do not need to separate carbs and proteins if the proteins contain no fat, as is the case with white fish, for example. A meal consisting of a starchy food (rice, potato) and white fish will not make you gain weight.
2. Should do you eat slow carbs for lunch or dinner? Contrary to popular belief, you should eat slow carbs for dinner, but that’s not carved in stone. When you lunch at a restaurant or cafeteria, you might have a hard time finding starchy foods (rice, pasta or potatoes) prepared without fat, and meat and fish are often served with a sauce. If that’s the case, it’s best to go with a meal consisting of animal proteins and raw or cooked veggies that’s prepared with a small amount of fat or sauce. You’ll have to forgo starchy foods and bread, though. For dinner, have slow carbs with as many vegetables as you want. It’s much easier to control fat intake when you dine in. For example, you can prepare spaghetti with some fresh tomato, garlic, basil and a touch of olive oil. Have as many veggies as you like. You may have some lean protein, like 3.5 oz. white fish, 3 oz. lean ham, or even some extra lean ground beef. However, there’s no need to have meat twice a day.
It’s wrong to think that if you have slow carbs for lunch, you’ll be able to burn them throughout the afternoon and that if you have slow carbs for dinner, your body might store them. It’s not that simple. Your body doesn’t use up your lunch during the afternoon. It must digest your lunch, convert it and assimilate it before it can use it for energy. Active people and athletes have pasta for dinner, but they don’t go out and run at night. Similarly, the Tour de France has never been held at night!
At night, your body goes through a long period of fasting, rests and recharges its batteries for the next day (just like a cell phone). You’d be making a serious mistake if you eliminated or reduced your evening dinner. Finally, slow carbs are filling and easy to digest.
Ogdog13
12-08-2009, 02:52 PM
II. Second Step: Managing those slip-ups
There are minor, inconsequential slip-ups for which you don’t need to make up and major slip-ups for which you will have to make up the next day.
1. Minor Diet Slip-ups:
These usually occur when you’re not eating at home, because it’s hard to avoid fats; however, you can easily avoid carbs, or starchy foods and desserts. Have a first course and a main dish and even a small glass of wine if you like. There will be no consequences, as long as these meals don’t become a habit. Go back to your regular diet the next day.
2. Major Diet Slip-ups:
A major diet slip-up is a big meal with all the fixings. After all, you’re entitled to it, aren’t you? You can make up for a major diet slip-up the next day by avoiding all fast and slow carbs for that ONE DAY ONLY. All you have to do is you go back on the first phase of the diet for one day. Why is that? Because when you eliminate all carbohydrates the day after a big meal, you reduce the amount of insulin secreted and block fat storage. You might still gain up to two pounds the day after you, but don’t panic. You didn’t gain two pounds of fat. Your body is unable to lose two pounds of fat in a day and it can’t gain two pounds of fat in a day either. If two pounds of fat equal 9,000 calories and a woman eats an average of 2,000 calories per day, how could your body possibly store the equivalent of four to five days of meals after just one meal? What do those two pounds of fat represent then? They represent the weight of the big meal plus the water or fluid you had with it and that had not been eliminated by the time you stepped on the weigh scale the next day.
There are minor, inconsequential slip-ups for which you don’t need to make up and major slip-ups for which you will have to make up the next day.
1. Minor Diet Slip-ups:
These usually occur when you’re not eating at home, because it’s hard to avoid fats; however, you can easily avoid carbs, or starchy foods and desserts. Have a first course and a main dish and even a small glass of wine if you like. There will be no consequences, as long as these meals don’t become a habit. Go back to your regular diet the next day.
2. Major Diet Slip-ups:
A major diet slip-up is a big meal with all the fixings. After all, you’re entitled to it, aren’t you? You can make up for a major diet slip-up the next day by avoiding all fast and slow carbs for that ONE DAY ONLY. All you have to do is you go back on the first phase of the diet for one day. Why is that? Because when you eliminate all carbohydrates the day after a big meal, you reduce the amount of insulin secreted and block fat storage. You might still gain up to two pounds the day after you, but don’t panic. You didn’t gain two pounds of fat. Your body is unable to lose two pounds of fat in a day and it can’t gain two pounds of fat in a day either. If two pounds of fat equal 9,000 calories and a woman eats an average of 2,000 calories per day, how could your body possibly store the equivalent of four to five days of meals after just one meal? What do those two pounds of fat represent then? They represent the weight of the big meal plus the water or fluid you had with it and that had not been eliminated by the time you stepped on the weigh scale the next day.
Ogdog13
12-21-2009, 09:31 AM
Breakfast
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
skittlescda
01-25-2010, 04:58 PM
I started the IP diet today, for breakfast I had the plain cereal, lunch mushroom soup and salad (no dressing) and afternoon break the cappaccino drink. I've been told to have 4 proteins a day to start. I've always been very sensitive to food additives, artificial sweeteners, colourings and food dyes. One piece of sugar-free gum and I feel like my skin is crawling. 5 minutes after the cereal I felt the same feeling and with it comes an anxious feeling, sometimes a headache or mild chest discomfort. I have NO health problems and these symptoms I only have when eating or drinking diet products ie gum, diet pops, popsicles, candy etc. Although the soup left a bad after taste, I liked the taste. With the cappaccino I had the same feeling that I had after eating the cereal this morning. I'm really hoping this diet will work for me and I know a few ladies that have had great success with it. I'm normally good at sticking to a diet and have no problems getting through the first few days...my problem has always been after I lose 20 pounds I fall back into old eating habits. I'm hoping with the support of the IP ladies I won't follow that trend this time and make this a life changing diet. HOWEVER, I'm concerned that maybe some of the ingredients in their products are not agreeing with me and wonder if my body will adjust. The cereal and cappaccino I've had today, both had only 10 mg/packet of sucralose where most of the sweetened products have upwards of 30 and I saw one that had 88 mg/packet. Has anyone experienced this? I'm going home from work to have fresh veggies and the spaghetti bolognese and tomorrow I'm trying something new. I do hope that my body adjusts to the diet products and I lose these creepy sy mptoms lol. Thanks for listening and great forum 3 Fat Chicks!! I hope I have all good posts from today forward!! x0 :dizzy:
jordanna
03-18-2010, 01:04 PM
Here are some information sheets on each of the different phases of Ideal Protein
sdcrowfan
05-23-2010, 02:07 PM
Is there a Phase II pdf available?
jordanna
05-25-2010, 11:54 AM
I just received phase II and III sheets from my coach as I'm phasing out in a couple of weeks so I figured I'd re-post the phases:
I could only attach 5 files so for simplicities sake I have posted phase 1 and 2 here and will re-post phase 3 and 4 in another post.
EDITED BY ADMIN: Please see this post for an updated 2011 Phase 1 list :)
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/4189093-post135.html
I could only attach 5 files so for simplicities sake I have posted phase 1 and 2 here and will re-post phase 3 and 4 in another post.
EDITED BY ADMIN: Please see this post for an updated 2011 Phase 1 list :)
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/4189093-post135.html
choosie1
05-26-2010, 02:54 PM
Jordanna - I have some questions regarding phase 3.....I gave up on my coach a while ago - so I hope you can provide some of your excellent advice!!! The one document lists Milk as a fat - is that right? Also...can we have oatmeal or steel cut oats for breakfast as long as it is under 30 grams of carbs....I am just trying to get my head wrapped around breakfast as I will be transitioning to phase 3 in June 6th....Thanks!
showgirlaz
05-28-2010, 02:54 AM
Hi all. I am new to this forum and cant seem to find where to find where to post my questions. I am starting a low carb, low calorie diet tomorrow. I have found that i am a carbohydrate addict and my cravings cause me to binge, resulting in continuous fluctuations in my weight. I am to the desparate point and am going to crack down here. Can anyone please tell me what to expect on a plan like this? I am worried about the hunger, fatigue, and cravings, and also the inability to sleep. When will the hunger subside and the energy come back? Also, when should i expect to go into ketosis?
Info about me: I am a 26 year old female, very athletic, good muscle tone, 5'8, 146 lbs, looking to get back to my previous weight of 130 (before i got the depo-shot). That was the weight i was at for years, looked great and felt great at it. I plan on sticking to about 1200 calories a day with 25 grams or less of carbohydrates, low fat, high in protein, and take multivitamins and supplements.
Thank you!!!
Hi Jillian! Were you looking for a low carb forum in general, an atkins plan forum, or this one - Ideal Protein.
Ideal Potein is a designed program that keeps net carbs to 30 or under, is low fat, moderate to high protein of roughly 70g a day or so, and, as a result, the calories are in the 800 to MAX of 1100... you would get to the 1200 cal at 25 carbs without a very high protein or high fat contribution. We all buy packaged foods (not all from the same places) that fit with the guidelines. We use a fair amount of salt, supplement potassium, calcium, and magnesium, and take a high potency multivitamin to accomodate the foods we are not permitted to included in the program.
If you are seeking to try the ideal protein plan we are excited to have you with us! If this post was supossed to be for the atkins group or the many other low carb groups, the links below will get you there! :)
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/carb-counters-117/
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/atkins-226/
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/other-reduced-carb-diets-227/
I am so happy I found this site. I heard about this program and will be speaking to a doctor about it on Wednesday next week. I have tried WW, HCG, Atkins and Nutrisystem. Is this another fad diet or do you think it REALLY works?
Welcome!!
This is DEFINITELY not a fad diet. It ABSOLUTELY works! The program has been around for 27 years beginning in Europe, coming to Canada first and, 3 years ago, joining the USA. There have been over 7million people who have successfully achieved their goal weights on this plan. It has FDA approval in the USA and is as you know a medically administered program. From experience (nearly 6 months on the program) I can tell you IT WORKS, IT WORKS WELL, and you WILL LOSE. Better yet, your body really does get to a point it metabolizes differently and better than it did before!
Info about me: I am a 26 year old female, very athletic, good muscle tone, 5'8, 146 lbs, looking to get back to my previous weight of 130 (before i got the depo-shot). That was the weight i was at for years, looked great and felt great at it. I plan on sticking to about 1200 calories a day with 25 grams or less of carbohydrates, low fat, high in protein, and take multivitamins and supplements.
Thank you!!!
Hi Jillian! Were you looking for a low carb forum in general, an atkins plan forum, or this one - Ideal Protein.
Ideal Potein is a designed program that keeps net carbs to 30 or under, is low fat, moderate to high protein of roughly 70g a day or so, and, as a result, the calories are in the 800 to MAX of 1100... you would get to the 1200 cal at 25 carbs without a very high protein or high fat contribution. We all buy packaged foods (not all from the same places) that fit with the guidelines. We use a fair amount of salt, supplement potassium, calcium, and magnesium, and take a high potency multivitamin to accomodate the foods we are not permitted to included in the program.
If you are seeking to try the ideal protein plan we are excited to have you with us! If this post was supossed to be for the atkins group or the many other low carb groups, the links below will get you there! :)
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/carb-counters-117/
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/atkins-226/
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/other-reduced-carb-diets-227/
I am so happy I found this site. I heard about this program and will be speaking to a doctor about it on Wednesday next week. I have tried WW, HCG, Atkins and Nutrisystem. Is this another fad diet or do you think it REALLY works?
Welcome!!
This is DEFINITELY not a fad diet. It ABSOLUTELY works! The program has been around for 27 years beginning in Europe, coming to Canada first and, 3 years ago, joining the USA. There have been over 7million people who have successfully achieved their goal weights on this plan. It has FDA approval in the USA and is as you know a medically administered program. From experience (nearly 6 months on the program) I can tell you IT WORKS, IT WORKS WELL, and you WILL LOSE. Better yet, your body really does get to a point it metabolizes differently and better than it did before!
MercuryVaporKitten
06-01-2010, 11:52 AM
Hi everyone! I'm brandy-new to the site, and just started the Ideal Protein program on Sunday. I'm already down 4 lbs, so I'm definetly encouraged! I purged my apartment of any and all crave-able items before I started so I can't cheat.;) I didn't realize just how much I was eating (and mostly carb heavy stuff, too) until I started this program. Now I'm finding myself longing for something cheesey, or crunchy, or sweet and gooey! I've been drinking extra water (besides the required amount) and using the 4C Totally Light packets which helps curb the cravings a bit. I'm wondering if anyone else has gone through the same "carb withdrawl" that I'm going through, and how you've handled it. I've yo-yo'ed for years now. My heaviest was 268 when I was 17, got down to 205 between my own dieting and Weight Watchers (which I won't go back to for various reasons), hit a plateau at 205 and was there for about 5 years. I wasn't super happy about being "stuck", but I was ok with it. Then this past Thanksgiving-Christmas I lost it and ate just about everything in sight, plus a few medication changes later I found myself back around 240 and sad.:( I know quite a few people who are on or have done the IP program and have had nothing but amazing results. I want to give it a go, I figure I've got nothing to lose but the weight! I know I'll find the encouragement I need to keep going through this community. Any of the posts that I've read are awesome and super encouraging. Thanks for reading, and again, any words of wisom for phase I of IP would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!:dance:
jordanna
06-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Jordanna - I have some questions regarding phase 3.....I gave up on my coach a while ago - so I hope you can provide some of your excellent advice!!! The one document lists Milk as a fat - is that right? Also...can we have oatmeal or steel cut oats for breakfast as long as it is under 30 grams of carbs....I am just trying to get my head wrapped around breakfast as I will be transitioning to phase 3 in June 6th....Thanks!
Hey Choosie, sorry it took me so long to answer your question - I don't check all the threads all the time!
That's too bad about your coach - it does seem that some of them are useless!
You are absolutely correct that you can have oatmeal or steel cut oats as long as it's under 30 g of carbs and yes, milk is considered a fat! It's hard to wrap your brain around things when you've been doing something else and gotten used to that lol. I know I've looked at the phase 3 sheet a few different times trying to figure everything out...and that's just breakfast, imagine once we're on maintenance!
Hey Choosie, sorry it took me so long to answer your question - I don't check all the threads all the time!
That's too bad about your coach - it does seem that some of them are useless!
You are absolutely correct that you can have oatmeal or steel cut oats as long as it's under 30 g of carbs and yes, milk is considered a fat! It's hard to wrap your brain around things when you've been doing something else and gotten used to that lol. I know I've looked at the phase 3 sheet a few different times trying to figure everything out...and that's just breakfast, imagine once we're on maintenance!
showgirlaz
06-03-2010, 09:21 PM
I didn't and haven't used any restricted products. For me, and each answer will be from a personal perspective, I lost about 4 pounds a week for 10 weeks. Some people have used restricted from the beginning without issue. You can do this one of two ways. You are paying a clinic for food and guidance, if they don't have a problem and they will sell you the restricted items (my coach won't) you can use them. If the clinic won't sell them, then you need to decide if you want them enough to order from somewhere else. As far as losing weight... it doesn't seem to effect everyone badly so, you would have to see how your body responds. To that end, you might want to have a week or two of non restricted so you can see if using restricted items does cause a slow down. If it doesn't, go for it in moderation. If it does effect you, wait and try again later.
Jordanna waited 2 months to add restricted items, has 1 or 2 a week now. She had great loss. I am not sure how bevs, or novak, or sylvie, or babs, or cw (chaplains wifey), sassy, or some of the other big losers did but, listen to their advice! They have had truly great success!
Jordanna waited 2 months to add restricted items, has 1 or 2 a week now. She had great loss. I am not sure how bevs, or novak, or sylvie, or babs, or cw (chaplains wifey), sassy, or some of the other big losers did but, listen to their advice! They have had truly great success!
Lady5andy
06-06-2010, 12:27 AM
Does anybody is able to post here the ''normal'' amount of fat, calories, and carbs, that we're supposed to eat everyday in pH1 ?
I know that we should keep under 40 g of carbs, but what are the others ?
I know that we should keep under 40 g of carbs, but what are the others ?
SylvieG
06-08-2010, 12:19 AM
Jordanna waited 2 months to add restricted items, has 1 or 2 a week now. She had great loss. I am not sure how bevs, or novak, or sylvie, or babs, or cw (chaplains wifey), sassy, or some of the other big losers did but, listen to their advice! They have had truly great success!
Carla, sound strange to be mentionned as a big loser but that's where I am now! lol My coach allowed me to use restricted packets from the beginning but I didn't buy any on my first 60lbs. When I got back on IP train after the Holidays, I had about 2 a week, to keep sane as my family was having big breakfasts!
Hope this helps!
Carla, sound strange to be mentionned as a big loser but that's where I am now! lol My coach allowed me to use restricted packets from the beginning but I didn't buy any on my first 60lbs. When I got back on IP train after the Holidays, I had about 2 a week, to keep sane as my family was having big breakfasts!
Hope this helps!
jordanna
06-21-2010, 02:21 PM
Here are phase 3 and 4 with explanations:
salesgod
06-21-2010, 04:58 PM
Hi
Im gonna be starting IP on Saturday and was wondering about the restricted protein supplements. Is it better if I dont use those untill the third week? Thats what it says on the paper but I was wondering if thats how you all have had those amazing results the first couple weeks, TIA
I didn't use any restricted products till week 4, when I tried the orange pancakes. Though I haven't felt like I've slowed down since I added the restricted items, I can't say as to whether I would have lost faster without them. I'm guessing I would have -- because of fewer carbs/calories.
I tried to only use the restricted items on days when I'm working out. If you're craving something sweet, go for the jello.
Here's a tip: Hit up the in-store deli at your local mega mart, and ask them to sell you some of their smallest plastic containers and lids. They're a lot cheaper than buying the brand name containers in the food storage section, and they're a good size for the jello. I make all 7 at once so that they're waiting in the fridge, ready to go.
Im gonna be starting IP on Saturday and was wondering about the restricted protein supplements. Is it better if I dont use those untill the third week? Thats what it says on the paper but I was wondering if thats how you all have had those amazing results the first couple weeks, TIA
I didn't use any restricted products till week 4, when I tried the orange pancakes. Though I haven't felt like I've slowed down since I added the restricted items, I can't say as to whether I would have lost faster without them. I'm guessing I would have -- because of fewer carbs/calories.
I tried to only use the restricted items on days when I'm working out. If you're craving something sweet, go for the jello.
Here's a tip: Hit up the in-store deli at your local mega mart, and ask them to sell you some of their smallest plastic containers and lids. They're a lot cheaper than buying the brand name containers in the food storage section, and they're a good size for the jello. I make all 7 at once so that they're waiting in the fridge, ready to go.
nonnag
07-04-2010, 10:27 AM
Hi
Im gonna be starting IP on Saturday and was wondering about the restricted protein supplements. Is it better if I dont use those untill the third week? Thats what it says on the paper but I was wondering if thats how you all have had those amazing results the first couple weeks, TIA
Good for you for choosing IP! My husband (Michael) and I started together. Tomorrow will be two weeks. Michael had gotten a sheet of the IP items our clinic carries and I noticed all those bars that sounded so good. Since I wasn't a fan of the soups, nor of the pudding, I had Michael get a bunch of the bars the first week so we could have those as our snack at night. Well, it did sabotage our weight loss. I noticed it quickly though, and realized that they were on the restricted list (only meaning that it is best if you do not use them during the first three weeks). As good as they are (and I mean, they are EXCELLENT), we decided to hold those until later.
I have found that my favorite is the Capuccino drink mix, which I do as a shake by mixing it with 7 oz of cold water and using 3-4 ice cubes made from leftover coffee (I used flavored coffee too), and adding 1 packet of splenda. I have a Cook's mini blender that I use to mix it into a YUMMY coffee-flavored shake. I could have these three times a day!
I am feeling SO much better and my cravings for sweets, bread and fat have GONE (never accomplished that with any other diet). Best thing is that Michael was having major problems with diabetes (type II). He was on four Metformin a day and the day before we started diet his blood sugar reading was 312 (even with the four metformin). During the first week, he reduced his metformin to 1 a day. He is now OFF the metformin and his blood sugar readings have been between 83 and 110!
I wish you the best of luck with your venture. I know this site will help you. Be sure and check out the recipe sections.
Nonna G
Im gonna be starting IP on Saturday and was wondering about the restricted protein supplements. Is it better if I dont use those untill the third week? Thats what it says on the paper but I was wondering if thats how you all have had those amazing results the first couple weeks, TIA
Good for you for choosing IP! My husband (Michael) and I started together. Tomorrow will be two weeks. Michael had gotten a sheet of the IP items our clinic carries and I noticed all those bars that sounded so good. Since I wasn't a fan of the soups, nor of the pudding, I had Michael get a bunch of the bars the first week so we could have those as our snack at night. Well, it did sabotage our weight loss. I noticed it quickly though, and realized that they were on the restricted list (only meaning that it is best if you do not use them during the first three weeks). As good as they are (and I mean, they are EXCELLENT), we decided to hold those until later.
I have found that my favorite is the Capuccino drink mix, which I do as a shake by mixing it with 7 oz of cold water and using 3-4 ice cubes made from leftover coffee (I used flavored coffee too), and adding 1 packet of splenda. I have a Cook's mini blender that I use to mix it into a YUMMY coffee-flavored shake. I could have these three times a day!
I am feeling SO much better and my cravings for sweets, bread and fat have GONE (never accomplished that with any other diet). Best thing is that Michael was having major problems with diabetes (type II). He was on four Metformin a day and the day before we started diet his blood sugar reading was 312 (even with the four metformin). During the first week, he reduced his metformin to 1 a day. He is now OFF the metformin and his blood sugar readings have been between 83 and 110!
I wish you the best of luck with your venture. I know this site will help you. Be sure and check out the recipe sections.
Nonna G
showgirlaz
07-04-2010, 06:04 PM
Good for you for choosing IP! My husband (Michael) and I started together. Tomorrow will be two weeks. Michael had gotten a sheet of the IP items our clinic carries and I noticed all those bars that sounded so good. Since I wasn't a fan of the soups, nor of the pudding, I had Michael get a bunch of the bars the first week so we could have those as our snack at night. Well, it did sabotage our weight loss. I noticed it quickly though, and realized that they were on the restricted list (only meaning that it is best if you do not use them during the first three weeks). As good as they are (and I mean, they are EXCELLENT), we decided to hold those until later.
I have found that my favorite is the Capuccino drink mix, which I do as a shake by mixing it with 7 oz of cold water and using 3-4 ice cubes made from leftover coffee (I used flavored coffee too), and adding 1 packet of splenda. I have a Cook's mini blender that I use to mix it into a YUMMY coffee-flavored shake. I could have these three times a day!
I am feeling SO much better and my cravings for sweets, bread and fat have GONE (never accomplished that with any other diet). Best thing is that Michael was having major problems with diabetes (type II). He was on four Metformin a day and the day before we started diet his blood sugar reading was 312 (even with the four metformin). During the first week, he reduced his metformin to 1 a day. He is now OFF the metformin and his blood sugar readings have been between 83 and 110!
I wish you the best of luck with your venture. I know this site will help you. Be sure and check out the recipe sections.
Nonna G
Welcome!!!
You are smart to weight on the restricteds, IMHO, they kind of rob you during the first weeks of the potential success. After a few weeks or more, they don't seem to have the same degree of impact on weight loss.
I love the idea of using the frozen coffee ice cubes. SO much better than diluting the drink with ice. I am certain that tip would be valuable to others too. You might want to post it to the recipes thread!
I am so happy to hear you have better control over your food cravings. I noticed that too! I don't have nearly as much issue as I had on other diets. The best part of this diet is the health changes!! You and your husband must be so excited about his reduction in medication. :) congratulations on that benefit.
I have found that my favorite is the Capuccino drink mix, which I do as a shake by mixing it with 7 oz of cold water and using 3-4 ice cubes made from leftover coffee (I used flavored coffee too), and adding 1 packet of splenda. I have a Cook's mini blender that I use to mix it into a YUMMY coffee-flavored shake. I could have these three times a day!
I am feeling SO much better and my cravings for sweets, bread and fat have GONE (never accomplished that with any other diet). Best thing is that Michael was having major problems with diabetes (type II). He was on four Metformin a day and the day before we started diet his blood sugar reading was 312 (even with the four metformin). During the first week, he reduced his metformin to 1 a day. He is now OFF the metformin and his blood sugar readings have been between 83 and 110!
I wish you the best of luck with your venture. I know this site will help you. Be sure and check out the recipe sections.
Nonna G
Welcome!!!
You are smart to weight on the restricteds, IMHO, they kind of rob you during the first weeks of the potential success. After a few weeks or more, they don't seem to have the same degree of impact on weight loss.
I love the idea of using the frozen coffee ice cubes. SO much better than diluting the drink with ice. I am certain that tip would be valuable to others too. You might want to post it to the recipes thread!
I am so happy to hear you have better control over your food cravings. I noticed that too! I don't have nearly as much issue as I had on other diets. The best part of this diet is the health changes!! You and your husband must be so excited about his reduction in medication. :) congratulations on that benefit.
SmilinDi
07-07-2010, 01:50 AM
Icw32,
Thanks for the reply~as well as the compliment. When you first begin this program a great coach will warn you that the first several days you might not feel so great. This is due to your body burning off all of the excess garbage it has stored, but following those days, your energy will soar(as your body begins to literally transform). Yeahhhhh....inches shed, muscle building, fat burning.....you'll become one great walkin', talkin' machine~I mean HUMAN BEING! (grinning, yet sincere).
Considering I am new at this site I had a heck of a time getting back to this spot. Glad I found it, or your comment could have been lost among the zillions of posts here. Again thanks for replying. Have a great night, and sweet dreams.
~SmilinDi~
Thanks for the reply~as well as the compliment. When you first begin this program a great coach will warn you that the first several days you might not feel so great. This is due to your body burning off all of the excess garbage it has stored, but following those days, your energy will soar(as your body begins to literally transform). Yeahhhhh....inches shed, muscle building, fat burning.....you'll become one great walkin', talkin' machine~I mean HUMAN BEING! (grinning, yet sincere).
Considering I am new at this site I had a heck of a time getting back to this spot. Glad I found it, or your comment could have been lost among the zillions of posts here. Again thanks for replying. Have a great night, and sweet dreams.
~SmilinDi~
Rocky Monarch
07-07-2010, 02:14 AM
Icw32,
When you first begin this program a great coach will warn you that the first several days you might not feel so great. This is due to your body burning off all of the excess garbage it has stored
you can say that again, but if you can gut it out for the first few (grim) days, it is sooo worth it.
Icw32: it looks like you are starting tomorrow: GOOD LUCK on your journey and we are all here to help each other, so book mark the IP home page (see below) and come back as often as you can. Welcome aboard!
Considering I am new at this site I had a heck of a time getting back to this spot. Glad I found it, or your comment could have been lost among the zillions of posts here. Again thanks for replying. Have a great night, and sweet dreams.
~SmilinDi~
SmilinDi your dedication to change is awe inspiring, thanks for posting!
SmilinDi and Icw32 If you bookmark this link,
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/
it will take you to the IP home page, with lots of discussions about IP. Scroll about half way down the page and you will see the weekly "chat", which is generally the most "trafficked" part of the website. The section you are in now "Phases" , which is specific to that topic. You will see that listed toward the top of the home page.
WELCOME!
When you first begin this program a great coach will warn you that the first several days you might not feel so great. This is due to your body burning off all of the excess garbage it has stored
you can say that again, but if you can gut it out for the first few (grim) days, it is sooo worth it.
Icw32: it looks like you are starting tomorrow: GOOD LUCK on your journey and we are all here to help each other, so book mark the IP home page (see below) and come back as often as you can. Welcome aboard!
Considering I am new at this site I had a heck of a time getting back to this spot. Glad I found it, or your comment could have been lost among the zillions of posts here. Again thanks for replying. Have a great night, and sweet dreams.
~SmilinDi~
SmilinDi your dedication to change is awe inspiring, thanks for posting!
SmilinDi and Icw32 If you bookmark this link,
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/
it will take you to the IP home page, with lots of discussions about IP. Scroll about half way down the page and you will see the weekly "chat", which is generally the most "trafficked" part of the website. The section you are in now "Phases" , which is specific to that topic. You will see that listed toward the top of the home page.
WELCOME!
jordash
07-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Does anyone have the vegetarian phase 1 for IP they can share?
Jean
Jean
nonrever
07-18-2010, 03:04 AM
I hope I'm writing in the correct area. Just trying to get some tips on how to incorporate Phase 4 into my life. I'm a flight attendant and try to avoid having to eat out too much while away. I have a small cooler I can bring with food and can heat up things in the oven on the plane. Trying to figure out good things to pack in my lunch box that are maintenance friendly. Any suggestions? Thanks!
I'm svelting!
07-18-2010, 03:49 PM
I hope I'm writing in the correct area. Just trying to get some tips on how to incorporate Phase 4 into my life. I'm a flight attendant and try to avoid having to eat out too much while away. I have a small cooler I can bring with food and can heat up things in the oven on the plane. Trying to figure out good things to pack in my lunch box that are maintenance friendly. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Try the Life after Phase 1 thread. There's lots of good information from other folks who are in Phase 4.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/204492-life-after-phase-1-a.html
Try the Life after Phase 1 thread. There's lots of good information from other folks who are in Phase 4.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/204492-life-after-phase-1-a.html
skinnytobe
08-14-2010, 07:42 AM
I just started IP this past Tuesday, this is day 5!! I thought I was going to die the first 4 days!! I woke up this morning and feel great!! Thank you Lord because I was seriously thinking to just chaulk this up as a waste of time and money. I am hypoglycemic and it really scares me when my sugar hits low but thanks to the protein bars, I survived!! My scales indicate I am loosing a little, I will wi on Tuesday morning. I am excited now. Everyone please remember me today. I am cooking a big meal for my family. Love to read all of these blogs each day it has also helped me stick with this the last few days. I want to loose 20 pounds!!! Maybe this will be the "LAST DIET".
doxigirl
08-14-2010, 07:55 AM
I just started IP this past Tuesday, this is day 5!! I thought I was going to die the first 4 days!! I woke up this morning and feel great!! Thank you Lord because I was seriously thinking to just chaulk this up as a waste of time and money. I am hypoglycemic and it really scares me when my sugar hits low but thanks to the protein bars, I survived!! My scales indicate I am loosing a little, I will wi on Tuesday morning. I am excited now. Everyone please remember me today. I am cooking a big meal for my family. Love to read all of these blogs each day it has also helped me stick with this the last few days. I want to loose 20 pounds!!! Maybe this will be the "LAST DIET".
:wel3fc:
Please make sure you check out the other "sticky" and "thread" posts. There is a wealth of info on our forum!
:wel3fc:
Please make sure you check out the other "sticky" and "thread" posts. There is a wealth of info on our forum!
nonnag
08-14-2010, 10:16 AM
I just started IP this past Tuesday, this is day 5!! I thought I was going to die the first 4 days!! I woke up this morning and feel great!! Thank you Lord because I was seriously thinking to just chaulk this up as a waste of time and money. I am hypoglycemic and it really scares me when my sugar hits low but thanks to the protein bars, I survived!! My scales indicate I am loosing a little, I will wi on Tuesday morning. I am excited now. Everyone please remember me today. I am cooking a big meal for my family. Love to read all of these blogs each day it has also helped me stick with this the last few days. I want to loose 20 pounds!!! Maybe this will be the "LAST DIET".
Hello from a fellow Mississippian! So glad you are doing this wonderful program with me. My husband and I have been on it for almost 8 weeks now. My scales showed 141.8 this morning and Michael's was 204! I weighed in at 161.3 officially, but we didn't start for another week because we were going to a family reunion. Obviously, I weighed a little more when we actually started IP the next week! Officially I have lost almost 20 pounds and Michael has lost 35 lbs. I have gone from a size 16 to a size 10 and Michael from a size 46 pants to a size 38 pants! We have a retail store and our customers have really noticed and commented on the difference. Michael had both hips replaced last year and had gotten to the point where he could hardly walk due to back, knee and foot problems. He was on 4 metformin a day and it was still not controlling his blood sugar. Within a week his blood sugar was normal. Within 2 weeks he was off the metformin. He is also off Inderal which he took for 26 years for tremors, and he no longer has the tremors. This program is about more than just weight loss. It has given him his life back. One of the owners of the weight loss clinic we go to is a former pharmaceutical rep we go to church with. One of the other owners is a local doctor. They took about 2-1/2 years to put their clinic together and did a lot of research before going with the IP program. I have been on many different diets in my adult years, and this is the ONLY one I have been able to stick to. The way I feel, and the way I feel about myself, is more important than any donut or piece of chocolate cake. The first few days were hard for me too (I'm sure it was the chemicals and toxins leaving my body and causing headaches), but it passes and you will start really feeling so good about yourself. You will find that "good for you" food tastes so much better - food like okra and cauliflower and broccoli and turnips. Be sure and check out the recipes, but be cautious as not all are for Phase I. Please feel free to email me. Best of luck!
Hello from a fellow Mississippian! So glad you are doing this wonderful program with me. My husband and I have been on it for almost 8 weeks now. My scales showed 141.8 this morning and Michael's was 204! I weighed in at 161.3 officially, but we didn't start for another week because we were going to a family reunion. Obviously, I weighed a little more when we actually started IP the next week! Officially I have lost almost 20 pounds and Michael has lost 35 lbs. I have gone from a size 16 to a size 10 and Michael from a size 46 pants to a size 38 pants! We have a retail store and our customers have really noticed and commented on the difference. Michael had both hips replaced last year and had gotten to the point where he could hardly walk due to back, knee and foot problems. He was on 4 metformin a day and it was still not controlling his blood sugar. Within a week his blood sugar was normal. Within 2 weeks he was off the metformin. He is also off Inderal which he took for 26 years for tremors, and he no longer has the tremors. This program is about more than just weight loss. It has given him his life back. One of the owners of the weight loss clinic we go to is a former pharmaceutical rep we go to church with. One of the other owners is a local doctor. They took about 2-1/2 years to put their clinic together and did a lot of research before going with the IP program. I have been on many different diets in my adult years, and this is the ONLY one I have been able to stick to. The way I feel, and the way I feel about myself, is more important than any donut or piece of chocolate cake. The first few days were hard for me too (I'm sure it was the chemicals and toxins leaving my body and causing headaches), but it passes and you will start really feeling so good about yourself. You will find that "good for you" food tastes so much better - food like okra and cauliflower and broccoli and turnips. Be sure and check out the recipes, but be cautious as not all are for Phase I. Please feel free to email me. Best of luck!
livelaughlove1981
08-18-2010, 03:42 PM
Hi there!
I am so glad that there is so much support out there for IP, I have been on IP for 12 weeks and have lost 39 lbs and 65 inches!! I love most of the food, had a couple of cheats, i just got married 2 months ago so I fell of the wagon a bit... never gained tho so that was awesome! My sister is getting married in Sept and we just had her stagette this past weekend so i have to see how i did on my weighin tommorrow. My husband started this after our wedding and he has lost 34 lbs and 58 inches after just 6 weeks. This works and I cant wait to get this weight off!! ;) But if you follow it you will lose no matter what!!
I am so glad that there is so much support out there for IP, I have been on IP for 12 weeks and have lost 39 lbs and 65 inches!! I love most of the food, had a couple of cheats, i just got married 2 months ago so I fell of the wagon a bit... never gained tho so that was awesome! My sister is getting married in Sept and we just had her stagette this past weekend so i have to see how i did on my weighin tommorrow. My husband started this after our wedding and he has lost 34 lbs and 58 inches after just 6 weeks. This works and I cant wait to get this weight off!! ;) But if you follow it you will lose no matter what!!
livelaughlove1981
08-24-2010, 12:11 PM
Well the weigh in after the stagette was not bad at all! lost 1.8lbs and 1.75 inches not the numbers I normally pull in but I was happy to have lost something! Back on the wagon and cant wait to weigh in next week ( my IP coach is off this week for surgery) Thinking i may throw some zumba in to tone up a bit before I leave on my honeymoon in sept! I LOVE THIS PLAN! Everyone in my family is now on this plan except for my dad but he just said that once my sisters wedding is done he wants to start to, the only thing is he may have to do the alternative plan since he has had a stroke and hauls oil so he doesnt get home until 8-9 at night. Anyways I am super excited for him and My hubby for deciding to do this with us! one step further to being healthy!! :)
I'm svelting!
08-24-2010, 01:07 PM
Well the weigh in after the stagette was not bad at all! lost 1.8lbs and 1.75 inches not the numbers I normally pull in but I was happy to have lost something! Back on the wagon and cant wait to weigh in next week ( my IP coach is off this week for surgery) Thinking i may throw some zumba in to tone up a bit before I leave on my honeymoon in sept! I LOVE THIS PLAN! Everyone in my family is now on this plan except for my dad but he just said that once my sisters wedding is done he wants to start to, the only thing is he may have to do the alternative plan since he has had a stroke and hauls oil so he doesnt get home until 8-9 at night. Anyways I am super excited for him and My hubby for deciding to do this with us! one step further to being healthy!! :)
:welcome2: Great work! Congrats on your pounds and inches lost!
I see that you're new. More people will see your great news and cheer you on if you post in the daily chat threads. Also, this thread is for information about Ideal Protein Diet Phases (weight loss, transition, and maintenance). When you're starting to post on this forum, it can be a little confusing. :) :hug:
Here's the thread for today.http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/210829-ip-daily-chat-tuesday-8-24-2010-a.html
If you see this message after Tuesday August 24, check the main forum and look below all the "Sticky" threads (they have the word "Sticky" in red). You'll see one with the current day's date. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet-236/
:welcome2: Great work! Congrats on your pounds and inches lost!
I see that you're new. More people will see your great news and cheer you on if you post in the daily chat threads. Also, this thread is for information about Ideal Protein Diet Phases (weight loss, transition, and maintenance). When you're starting to post on this forum, it can be a little confusing. :) :hug:
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skinnytobe
08-31-2010, 02:46 PM
Thanks for all the advise!!! I am so proud for you all loosing so well!!! I weighed in today!!! I am going on week 4 and I have lost 11.8 pounds!!!!!! I am now 137.8 - SOOO excited. My goal is 130 and I will be forever happy. :carrot:
skinnytobe
08-31-2010, 03:03 PM
Oh and if anyone knows how to "edit" what I indicated as my weight, please let me know. I actually started out at 148.3 and I am now 137. I am not sure how I inputed the wrong info but obviously I did. :^: LOL
skinnytobe
08-31-2010, 03:05 PM
I sure will. Thanks!!! I am still trying to figure all of this out. LOL
Linden
09-05-2010, 03:09 AM
Oh and if anyone knows how to "edit" what I indicated as my weight, please let me know. I actually started out at 148.3 and I am now 137. I am not sure how I inputed the wrong info but obviously I did. :^: LOL
Look up to the purple bar, far left, and click on User CP. Then go into your profile from the choices at the left. Scroll down until you see what you originally entered. :)
Look up to the purple bar, far left, and click on User CP. Then go into your profile from the choices at the left. Scroll down until you see what you originally entered. :)
brendagorman
09-05-2010, 09:21 PM
I've been considering trying this diet. I noticed so many people have a significant amount to lose. I need to lose around 20...while that may not seem like alot, i'm petite and that's a lot of weight for me. Is this diet appropriate if you don't have large amounts of weight to lose.
I'm svelting!
09-05-2010, 09:40 PM
I've been considering trying this diet. I noticed so many people have a significant amount to lose. I need to lose around 20...while that may not seem like alot, i'm petite and that's a lot of weight for me. Is this diet appropriate if you don't have large amounts of weight to lose.
:welcome2: Brenda! People have started Ideal Protein with 20 lbs to lose. Check out the daily chat thread to put your question to more people.
:welcome2: Brenda! People have started Ideal Protein with 20 lbs to lose. Check out the daily chat thread to put your question to more people.
showgirlaz
09-06-2010, 12:11 AM
I've been considering trying this diet. I noticed so many people have a significant amount to lose. I need to lose around 20...while that may not seem like alot, i'm petite and that's a lot of weight for me. Is this diet appropriate if you don't have large amounts of weight to lose.
:welcome:
This program is for EVERYONE! :) It is for anyone who has anything to lose and especially for anyone who has 20 to lose and doesn't want to keep on the path they are, gaining and maybe not knowing why.
Ideal protein helps to correct what is happening in your body healthwise and, will help you to understand how your body processes carbs and how to eat in the future so, you don't regain the weight or begin to yo-yo diet.
I have often said, I wish I had know about this and done it when I was "just" 20 pounds over weight. That 20 pounds was so big to me and so essential to me get my weight in control. I have lost just at 90 pounds now, and I would tell ANYONE no matter what the weight.. DO THIS :) you won't regret it!
:welcome:
This program is for EVERYONE! :) It is for anyone who has anything to lose and especially for anyone who has 20 to lose and doesn't want to keep on the path they are, gaining and maybe not knowing why.
Ideal protein helps to correct what is happening in your body healthwise and, will help you to understand how your body processes carbs and how to eat in the future so, you don't regain the weight or begin to yo-yo diet.
I have often said, I wish I had know about this and done it when I was "just" 20 pounds over weight. That 20 pounds was so big to me and so essential to me get my weight in control. I have lost just at 90 pounds now, and I would tell ANYONE no matter what the weight.. DO THIS :) you won't regret it!
jordash
10-11-2010, 02:32 AM
Does anyone have the protocol for Phase 1 - vegetarian?
Thanks
Jean
Thanks
Jean
nellie83
11-28-2010, 04:23 AM
I have contacted a nearby clinic that provides IP, but can't attend an introductory meeting till January. Apparently, they don't want people thinking about this program to start during the holidays because of all the temptation. I can see the reasoning. In the meantime, I want to learn some more info about IP from people who have experienced the program. What is the success rate of keeping the weight off? I did HCG (2 rounds) but ended up gaining the weight back. Granted I did go back to eating horribly (not right away), but it seemed like the weight started coming back as soon as I brought the carbs back in (including good carbs such as whole grain pasta, etc.). HCG also made me lose a lot of muscle mass, so I am happy that IP is supposed to maintain your muscle. One really bad side effect that happened with HCG is that I was having severe leg cramps even when I was asleep. My doctor figured it was from a lack of potassium. Are there any bad side effects experienced while doing IP? Last question is regarding something that I was told when I called the clinic...they stated that prior to phase 1 they have you do an elimination phase for about a week. Does anyone have any information regarding the elimiation phase? I want to make sure that I sufficiently research before putting a lot of money towards another weight loss system.
ladyvrod
11-28-2010, 01:31 PM
I have contacted a nearby clinic that provides IP, but can't attend an introductory meeting till January. Apparently, they don't want people thinking about this program to start during the holidays because of all the temptation. I can see the reasoning. In the meantime, I want to learn some more info about IP from people who have experienced the program. What is the success rate of keeping the weight off? I did HCG (2 rounds) but ended up gaining the weight back. Granted I did go back to eating horribly (not right away), but it seemed like the weight started coming back as soon as I brought the carbs back in (including good carbs such as whole grain pasta, etc.). HCG also made me lose a lot of muscle mass, so I am happy that IP is supposed to maintain your muscle. One really bad side effect that happened with HCG is that I was having severe leg cramps even when I was asleep. My doctor figured it was from a lack of potassium. Are there any bad side effects experienced while doing IP? Last question is regarding something that I was told when I called the clinic...they stated that prior to phase 1 they have you do an elimination phase for about a week. Does anyone have any information regarding the elimiation phase? I want to make sure that I sufficiently research before putting a lot of money towards another weight loss system.
I am fairly new to IP, 7 weeks, so not the most experienced. Read all the threads here including the daily ones.
My clinic said nothing about an elimination cleanse butyou will find the there are several differences from clinic to clinic.
With IP there are supplements, potassium, magnesium, calcium + a multi vitamin and others as well.
Long term success seems above average compared to other diets. I for one and sure that I can maintain once in phase 4.
Side effects seem to be minimal. One side effect that I like is ................ no longer needing an alarm clock! I have my early 20's energy back! There have been some that experience hair loss, but it is not long term.
If you want to test out IP before January then read the alternative thread and perhaps try doing a psuedo IP plan until January.
I suggest copying and posting your questions to the weekend thread.
I am fairly new to IP, 7 weeks, so not the most experienced. Read all the threads here including the daily ones.
My clinic said nothing about an elimination cleanse butyou will find the there are several differences from clinic to clinic.
With IP there are supplements, potassium, magnesium, calcium + a multi vitamin and others as well.
Long term success seems above average compared to other diets. I for one and sure that I can maintain once in phase 4.
Side effects seem to be minimal. One side effect that I like is ................ no longer needing an alarm clock! I have my early 20's energy back! There have been some that experience hair loss, but it is not long term.
If you want to test out IP before January then read the alternative thread and perhaps try doing a psuedo IP plan until January.
I suggest copying and posting your questions to the weekend thread.
showgirlaz
11-28-2010, 03:11 PM
I have contacted a nearby clinic that provides IP, but can't attend an introductory meeting till January. ...
What is the success rate of keeping the weight off? I did HCG (2 rounds) but ended up gaining the weight back. Granted I did go back to eating horribly (not right away), but it seemed like the weight started coming back as soon as I brought the carbs back in (including good carbs such as whole grain pasta, etc.).
HCG also made me lose a lot of muscle mass, so I am happy that IP is supposed to maintain your muscle.
One really bad side effect that happened with HCG is that I was having severe leg cramps even when I was asleep. My doctor figured it was from a lack of potassium.
Are there any bad side effects experienced while doing IP?
Last question is regarding something that I was told when I called the clinic...they stated that prior to phase 1 they have you do an elimination phase for about a week. Does anyone have any information regarding the elimiation phase? I want to make sure that I sufficiently research before putting a lot of money towards another weight loss system.
:welcome:
I don't know the official numbers of how many maintain and for how long. If you just use this to drop the weight and don't change how you see and use food to maintain a healthy body and weight, you will like gain it back. Fortunately, this program has 4 steps and you do learn, very well how it is the food that helped you lose that weight ( the food helped you put it on too) and how to keep it off.
IP helps you maintain muscle mass but, IT DOES NOT prevent you from losing some muscle. You lose a small amount. No way around it. Your body doesn't need it to carry the excess weight around so, it uses a little to fuel itself in maintaining other muscle and organs. It is DESIGNED to protect essential organs and heart muscle if you use the diet and the supplements correctly.
We take large amounts of potassium on this plan and calcium/magnesium to help with muscle cramps. It could be a side effect here too but, it may not be if you take the supplements as suggested.
The elimination phase may just be your clinics way of saying ween off carbs the week before. I don't know of any other thing like you suggest. I know a few clinics like there clients to use a detox/cleanse with the program.
It could make it a bit easier to get on and stay on phase 1 if you were to ease off the carbs, assuming you are a high carb eater.
Good luck with your decision!
What is the success rate of keeping the weight off? I did HCG (2 rounds) but ended up gaining the weight back. Granted I did go back to eating horribly (not right away), but it seemed like the weight started coming back as soon as I brought the carbs back in (including good carbs such as whole grain pasta, etc.).
HCG also made me lose a lot of muscle mass, so I am happy that IP is supposed to maintain your muscle.
One really bad side effect that happened with HCG is that I was having severe leg cramps even when I was asleep. My doctor figured it was from a lack of potassium.
Are there any bad side effects experienced while doing IP?
Last question is regarding something that I was told when I called the clinic...they stated that prior to phase 1 they have you do an elimination phase for about a week. Does anyone have any information regarding the elimiation phase? I want to make sure that I sufficiently research before putting a lot of money towards another weight loss system.
:welcome:
I don't know the official numbers of how many maintain and for how long. If you just use this to drop the weight and don't change how you see and use food to maintain a healthy body and weight, you will like gain it back. Fortunately, this program has 4 steps and you do learn, very well how it is the food that helped you lose that weight ( the food helped you put it on too) and how to keep it off.
IP helps you maintain muscle mass but, IT DOES NOT prevent you from losing some muscle. You lose a small amount. No way around it. Your body doesn't need it to carry the excess weight around so, it uses a little to fuel itself in maintaining other muscle and organs. It is DESIGNED to protect essential organs and heart muscle if you use the diet and the supplements correctly.
We take large amounts of potassium on this plan and calcium/magnesium to help with muscle cramps. It could be a side effect here too but, it may not be if you take the supplements as suggested.
The elimination phase may just be your clinics way of saying ween off carbs the week before. I don't know of any other thing like you suggest. I know a few clinics like there clients to use a detox/cleanse with the program.
It could make it a bit easier to get on and stay on phase 1 if you were to ease off the carbs, assuming you are a high carb eater.
Good luck with your decision!
Linden
12-09-2010, 05:26 PM
Here's th message I got when I went looking. Could you please put this in the Tips for Newbies thread, too?
Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
EatAnts
12-09-2010, 05:27 PM
After several inquiring about the official IP Alternative Plan lately, I thought I would post the official protocol sheets because I couldn't find them posted anywhere (but, then again, I may be blind).
hawndragon
12-09-2010, 07:05 PM
After several inquiring about the official IP Alternative Plan lately, I thought I would post the official protocol sheets because I couldn't find them posted anywhere (but, then again, I may be blind).
Thank you Sheila. Saw this after I replied to whodatchick. This is so helpful and spells it all out. You are so helpful!!
Guess I should read the whole days posts before replying in the future...
Thank you Sheila. Saw this after I replied to whodatchick. This is so helpful and spells it all out. You are so helpful!!
Guess I should read the whole days posts before replying in the future...
whodatchick
12-09-2010, 11:40 PM
After several inquiring about the official IP Alternative Plan lately, I thought I would post the official protocol sheets because I couldn't find them posted anywhere (but, then again, I may be blind).
THANK YOU!!
THANK YOU!!
jules26
12-14-2010, 03:53 PM
Does phase 3 include any IP packets???
phase 1 is 3 packets
phase 2 is 2 packets
phase 3 is ? packets?????
Thanks :) :carrot:
phase 1 is 3 packets
phase 2 is 2 packets
phase 3 is ? packets?????
Thanks :) :carrot:
EatAnts
12-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Does phase 3 include any IP packets???
phase 1 is 3 packets
phase 2 is 2 packets
phase 3 is ? packets?????
Thanks :) :carrot:
Yes, phase 3 has 1 packet for snack.
phase 1 is 3 packets
phase 2 is 2 packets
phase 3 is ? packets?????
Thanks :) :carrot:
Yes, phase 3 has 1 packet for snack.
showgirlaz
12-15-2010, 01:50 AM
After several inquiring about the official IP Alternative Plan lately, I thought I would post the official protocol sheets because I couldn't find them posted anywhere (but, then again, I may be blind).
Page 1, post number 7 has the alternative phase 1 written out but that is our only information
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/3054810-post7.html
But,even if they are somewhere else, things are changing and updated so it never hurts to post current protocols. :)
Page 1, post number 7 has the alternative phase 1 written out but that is our only information
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/3054810-post7.html
But,even if they are somewhere else, things are changing and updated so it never hurts to post current protocols. :)
tedski
12-15-2010, 10:46 AM
Page 1, post number 9 has the phases attached.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/3206600-post9.html
But, things are changing and updated so it never hurts to post current protocols. :)
Those on post #9 are the standard plan. The ones at the top of this page are the alternate plan.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/3206600-post9.html
But, things are changing and updated so it never hurts to post current protocols. :)
Those on post #9 are the standard plan. The ones at the top of this page are the alternate plan.
showgirlaz
12-15-2010, 03:59 PM
Those on post #9 are the standard plan. The ones at the top of this page are the alternate plan.
You're right. Sorry, I was reading too late at night. I corrected it to post 7 which is only phase 1 as alternative.
Thanks! :)
You're right. Sorry, I was reading too late at night. I corrected it to post 7 which is only phase 1 as alternative.
Thanks! :)
jules26
12-20-2010, 04:22 PM
Hello all!
For those of you on phase 4....can you give me an example of a good day on phase 4?
like as far as eating goes....what do you normally eat on phase 4???
thank you :carrot::carrot:
For those of you on phase 4....can you give me an example of a good day on phase 4?
like as far as eating goes....what do you normally eat on phase 4???
thank you :carrot::carrot:
Linden
12-20-2010, 11:21 PM
For those of you on phase 4....can you give me an example of a good day on phase 4?
like as far as eating goes....what do you normally eat on phase 4???
Jules, go take a look at th Life After thread. You'll get the whole picture. I've bumped it for you.
like as far as eating goes....what do you normally eat on phase 4???
Jules, go take a look at th Life After thread. You'll get the whole picture. I've bumped it for you.
Coqui
12-20-2010, 11:41 PM
Thanks for posting the alternative plans! Are these the ones appropriate for diabetics? I posted a question about diabetics on IP and someone said that a type 1 diabetic needs to consult a doctor and be careful, but type 2 should be fine. Please let me know if this is the plan or if there is a different one for diabetics.
showgirlaz
12-21-2010, 02:30 AM
Thanks for posting the alternative plans! Are these the ones appropriate for diabetics? I posted a question about diabetics on IP and someone said that a type 1 diabetic needs to consult a doctor and be careful, but type 2 should be fine. Please let me know if this is the plan or if there is a different one for diabetics.
Diabetics need to talk to their coach. There is a different plan and it is important that they DO NOT make too many ketones. Ketosis is very hard for a diabetic to regulate and the plan has ways to help them manage.
There are some alternate plans posted that can be used by diabetics BUT, they should still be under the advise of a coach and/or doctor to make sure things are well managed.
Diabetics need to talk to their coach. There is a different plan and it is important that they DO NOT make too many ketones. Ketosis is very hard for a diabetic to regulate and the plan has ways to help them manage.
There are some alternate plans posted that can be used by diabetics BUT, they should still be under the advise of a coach and/or doctor to make sure things are well managed.
chopkins
01-10-2011, 12:04 AM
Hello from a fellow Mississippian! So glad you are doing this wonderful program with me. My husband and I have been on it for almost 8 weeks now. My scales showed 141.8 this morning and Michael's was 204! I weighed in at 161.3 officially, but we didn't start for another week because we were going to a family reunion. Obviously, I weighed a little more when we actually started IP the next week! Officially I have lost almost 20 pounds and Michael has lost 35 lbs. I have gone from a size 16 to a size 10 and Michael from a size 46 pants to a size 38 pants! We have a retail store and our customers have really noticed and commented on the difference. Michael had both hips replaced last year and had gotten to the point where he could hardly walk due to back, knee and foot problems. He was on 4 metformin a day and it was still not controlling his blood sugar. Within a week his blood sugar was normal. Within 2 weeks he was off the metformin. He is also off Inderal which he took for 26 years for tremors, and he no longer has the tremors. This program is about more than just weight loss. It has given him his life back. One of the owners of the weight loss clinic we go to is a former pharmaceutical rep we go to church with. One of the other owners is a local doctor. They took about 2-1/2 years to put their clinic together and did a lot of research before going with the IP program. I have been on many different diets in my adult years, and this is the ONLY one I have been able to stick to. The way I feel, and the way I feel about myself, is more important than any donut or piece of chocolate cake. The first few days were hard for me too (I'm sure it was the chemicals and toxins leaving my body and causing headaches), but it passes and you will start really feeling so good about yourself. You will find that "good for you" food tastes so much better - food like okra and cauliflower and broccoli and turnips. Be sure and check out the recipes, but be cautious as not all are for Phase I. Please feel free to email me. Best of luck!
I just started phase 1, it's my fourth day...and it's not too bad..I travel a lot and got my stuff out of Oxford, but I live in Hburg. I feel great, just "mouth" hungry instead of "stomach" hungry...know it will go away...anyway it's great to see fellow Mississipians on here...I hope to lose like sixty or seventy pounds...
I just started phase 1, it's my fourth day...and it's not too bad..I travel a lot and got my stuff out of Oxford, but I live in Hburg. I feel great, just "mouth" hungry instead of "stomach" hungry...know it will go away...anyway it's great to see fellow Mississipians on here...I hope to lose like sixty or seventy pounds...
lindabin
01-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Carbohydrates are reintroduced to your diet during this phase.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered (or use light butter).
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- One dairy product: partly skimmed milk, plain yogurt or cottage cheese.
- A fruit or freshly squeezed fruit juice (fruit is optional at this point).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables. All vegetables, including artichokes, carrots, etc., are now allowed.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 oz. fish (all fish are allowed).
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- Optional: yogurt.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit, if you did not have a fruit for breakfast, or 1 protein packet.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch:
- 5 oz. meat, poultry or fish.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 1 serving of yogurt or cottage cheese.
Comments: The intermediate phase should last no longer than two weeks, because you’re on an unbalanced diet that lacks slow carbs!
Note: Very often, many dieters start off their diet with the third phase because they think it’s a balanced, low-calorie diet, but they’re wrong!
will I continue to lose weight in phase 3?
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 2 oz. whole-wheat or whole-grain bread, lightly buttered (or use light butter).
- OR 1.5 oz. unsweetened cereal, like unsweetened rolled oats or muesli.
- One dairy product: partly skimmed milk, plain yogurt or cottage cheese.
- A fruit or freshly squeezed fruit juice (fruit is optional at this point).
b) Noon:
- Raw vegetables. All vegetables, including artichokes, carrots, etc., are now allowed.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 oz. fish (all fish are allowed).
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- Optional: yogurt.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- A fruit, if you did not have a fruit for breakfast, or 1 protein packet.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch:
- 5 oz. meat, poultry or fish.
- 7 oz. green vegetables.
- 1 tablespoon oil for flavor or cooking.
- 1 serving of yogurt or cottage cheese.
Comments: The intermediate phase should last no longer than two weeks, because you’re on an unbalanced diet that lacks slow carbs!
Note: Very often, many dieters start off their diet with the third phase because they think it’s a balanced, low-calorie diet, but they’re wrong!
will I continue to lose weight in phase 3?
Rocky Monarch
01-17-2011, 01:07 PM
will I continue to lose weight in phase 3?
Many people continue to lose in Phase 3, as it is still a somewhat low calorie diet but it will not be like typical IP losses. I lost about a pound in my two weeks on phase 3...but the inches continue to shift around for most people. But you should plan on hitting phase 3 at--or below--where you want to end up because as you introduce carbs you will likely put on water weight (which you body needs to store glycogen)
Many people continue to lose in Phase 3, as it is still a somewhat low calorie diet but it will not be like typical IP losses. I lost about a pound in my two weeks on phase 3...but the inches continue to shift around for most people. But you should plan on hitting phase 3 at--or below--where you want to end up because as you introduce carbs you will likely put on water weight (which you body needs to store glycogen)
showgirlaz
01-17-2011, 01:11 PM
will I continue to lose weight in phase 3?
Believe it or not, some people do. In general, the goal of phase 3 is more about stabilizing the weight loss. That is why you should be 100% at your goal by the time you are leaving phase 2.
Phase 3 is starting to "wake up the pancreas". It reintroduces carb based foods at breakfast and your body begins to respond and, hopefully, produce correct level of insulin levels instead of excess insulin.
There are some people who do continue to lose in phase 3 and I have not learned why. It may be because they have more energy and begin adding back exercise.
Most people slow down in phase 3 and reach a stable "end" weight. Remember, adding back carbs will add a small bump in weight as related glucose, glycogen, and water are added back to the body. It is for that reason a coach will usually have you set your goal 3 -6 pounds lower than you expect to be at permanently. Then they have you meet or surpass that goal by the end of phase 2.
Believe it or not, some people do. In general, the goal of phase 3 is more about stabilizing the weight loss. That is why you should be 100% at your goal by the time you are leaving phase 2.
Phase 3 is starting to "wake up the pancreas". It reintroduces carb based foods at breakfast and your body begins to respond and, hopefully, produce correct level of insulin levels instead of excess insulin.
There are some people who do continue to lose in phase 3 and I have not learned why. It may be because they have more energy and begin adding back exercise.
Most people slow down in phase 3 and reach a stable "end" weight. Remember, adding back carbs will add a small bump in weight as related glucose, glycogen, and water are added back to the body. It is for that reason a coach will usually have you set your goal 3 -6 pounds lower than you expect to be at permanently. Then they have you meet or surpass that goal by the end of phase 2.
Lightweight
01-17-2011, 08:49 PM
Here are some information sheets on each of the different phases of Ideal Protein
thanks so much for taking the time to post these notes Jordanna.
thanks so much for taking the time to post these notes Jordanna.
Silado529
02-02-2011, 10:44 PM
I need to figure out if I can exercise...I would like to start walking 3 x a week...
is that allowed on Phase 1?
is that allowed on Phase 1?
thumper
02-17-2011, 02:20 AM
I need to figure out if I can exercise...I would like to start walking 3 x a week...
is that allowed on Phase 1?I have some of the same questions. From what I've seen here and read from Dr that started this diet, excerise builds muscle, so weight loss may not show up on the scales, since muscle weights more than fat (I think) but lost inches will show. So excerise sounds like a good idea for overall health. :running: Also my diet coach has a place on my weekly food log for exercise done that week on and she is happy when I've entered something, and I am in phase 1 also.
is that allowed on Phase 1?I have some of the same questions. From what I've seen here and read from Dr that started this diet, excerise builds muscle, so weight loss may not show up on the scales, since muscle weights more than fat (I think) but lost inches will show. So excerise sounds like a good idea for overall health. :running: Also my diet coach has a place on my weekly food log for exercise done that week on and she is happy when I've entered something, and I am in phase 1 also.
Linden
02-17-2011, 05:08 PM
I have some of the same questions. From what I've seen here and read from Dr that started this diet, excerise builds muscle, so weight loss may not show up on the scales, since muscle weights more than fat (I think) but lost inches will show. So excerise sounds like a good idea for overall health. :running: Also my diet coach has a place on my weekly food log for exercise done that week on and she is happy when I've entered something, and I am in phase 1 also.
PLEASE READ THE EXERCISE THREAD!!!!
PLEASE READ THE EXERCISE THREAD!!!!
Linden
02-17-2011, 05:14 PM
I need to figure out if I can exercise...I would like to start walking 3 x a week...
is that allowed on Phase 1?
Walking is good. Check out the Exercise thread. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/205608-exercise.html#post3717156
is that allowed on Phase 1?
Walking is good. Check out the Exercise thread. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/205608-exercise.html#post3717156
Got2benow
02-22-2011, 12:09 PM
This is my 10th day and I am struggling. Reading through the various post I have decided that the clinic I chose must not be well trained. I did not get much info at all. I was not told about restricted items at all(other than limit them to one a day). I have been eating either a bar or the chips for snack everyday. Could that be part of my problem? I do love them. I also saw something about an informational DVD but cannot find anything online. I feel like knowledge is power and I am pretty weak. You guys are awesome for sharing!
showgirlaz
02-28-2011, 05:19 PM
I am having scanner issues. SO, I thought I would just share the changes from a phase 1 plan to a phase 1 athletic plan.
Basically your day is the same EXCEPT:
Breakfast is 1 - 2 packets of the omelette or oatmeal
Lunch is normal but you add 1 hard boiled egg or 1/3 can tuna
Dinner is the same as phase 1
Snacks are ONLY puddings and you get 1 -2
it is much more restricted in choices especially at breakfast and snack.
Outside of that it is the same. You get your variety in packets at lunch. You have a normal phase 1 dinner
The notes on the protocol are
"ATHLETES... it is very import to consume 1 -2 grams of protein per lean pound of body weight."
It also says: Reduce intensity of training, at this point priority is on conserving existing mass and trimming fat. Post workout (with in 45 minutes) drink 2 envelopes: peach mango, pineapple banana, or cocoa drink.
Just remember this is for people who exercise near 5 hours a day.
If you exercise a lot some days and not others you might modify it or try just adding 1 or 2 extras protein portions on days you are in a midrange for exercise.
I will add the scan of the actual sheet once my scanner begins to cooperate.
Basically your day is the same EXCEPT:
Breakfast is 1 - 2 packets of the omelette or oatmeal
Lunch is normal but you add 1 hard boiled egg or 1/3 can tuna
Dinner is the same as phase 1
Snacks are ONLY puddings and you get 1 -2
it is much more restricted in choices especially at breakfast and snack.
Outside of that it is the same. You get your variety in packets at lunch. You have a normal phase 1 dinner
The notes on the protocol are
"ATHLETES... it is very import to consume 1 -2 grams of protein per lean pound of body weight."
It also says: Reduce intensity of training, at this point priority is on conserving existing mass and trimming fat. Post workout (with in 45 minutes) drink 2 envelopes: peach mango, pineapple banana, or cocoa drink.
Just remember this is for people who exercise near 5 hours a day.
If you exercise a lot some days and not others you might modify it or try just adding 1 or 2 extras protein portions on days you are in a midrange for exercise.
I will add the scan of the actual sheet once my scanner begins to cooperate.
fattypat
03-01-2011, 04:47 PM
it was explained to tat Phase 4 is one week which I continue on into lifetime maintenance. is this correct?
what is the recomendation on fruit juice?
what is the recomendation on fruit juice?
SaLaV
03-05-2011, 11:39 AM
Does anyone have a problem sleeping after having Protein snack at night?
SaLaV
03-05-2011, 11:42 AM
I'm on phase one and stayed up too late last night. Thought I would cheat with 2 or 3 m&m's.......Well that led to a handful because I could not stop grabbing 4 more than 5 etc.
What did this do to my diet? :(
What did this do to my diet? :(
ladyvrod
03-05-2011, 11:46 AM
I'm on phase one and stayed up too late last night. Thought I would cheat with 2 or 3 m&m's.......Well that led to a handful because I could not stop grabbing 4 more than 5 etc.
What did this do to my diet? :(
Probably kicked yourself our of ketosis. Today is a new day.......move on and stay OP today. I like to make the chocolate drink into hot chocolate at night. mmmmm warm and chocolatey.
What did this do to my diet? :(
Probably kicked yourself our of ketosis. Today is a new day.......move on and stay OP today. I like to make the chocolate drink into hot chocolate at night. mmmmm warm and chocolatey.
I'm svelting!
03-12-2011, 01:10 PM
This seems to be getting lost in daily threads. It is attached to this post for future reference.
Changes I noticed "at a glance"
- higher limit on beef, poultry, pork, veal protein
- bell peppers on select list with no restrictions about cooked/raw, color
One inconsistency that puzzles me:
- rutabaga is a select veggie -- could have 4 cups a day, 7 days a week
- swede is an occasional veggie -- limited to 2 cups/week
Aren't swede and rutabaga the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga)? (wikipedia link)
Oh IP, do you intentionally do this to confuse your clients and make them dependent on you? <sigh>
Changes I noticed "at a glance"
- higher limit on beef, poultry, pork, veal protein
- bell peppers on select list with no restrictions about cooked/raw, color
One inconsistency that puzzles me:
- rutabaga is a select veggie -- could have 4 cups a day, 7 days a week
- swede is an occasional veggie -- limited to 2 cups/week
Aren't swede and rutabaga the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga)? (wikipedia link)
Oh IP, do you intentionally do this to confuse your clients and make them dependent on you? <sigh>
maykatcooper
03-12-2011, 05:08 PM
Thank you so much for posting Phase 2. I couldn't find it till I found your entry. Smile. Very helpful. My husband is ready to begin P2 though I'll be on P1 for another 40 lbs. Smile. 20 down though and I'm happy bout that!
calival
03-13-2011, 12:16 AM
The second phase lasts between one and two weeks.
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
b) Noon:
- Raw or cooked green vegetables.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 to 6 oz. lean fish. You may have fattier meat or fish 3 to 4 times a week.
- 2 tablespoons oil for flavor.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch: 5 oz. lean meat or poultry with green vegetables.
You may have 1 to 2 dairy products per day, such as plain yogurt or 2% cottage cheese.
Comments: The second phase closely resembles the first phase, as your diet still excludes carbohydrates and ketosis continues.
I now tend to shorten this phase to less than one week so that the first phase can be extended as long as possible and protein packets are used for a late-afternoon or evening snack.
:)Just curious--you say "I now tend to shorten this phase"---does this mean that once you go off the diet you gain the weight back and ARE DOING IT OVER AGAIN?
a) Morning:
- Coffee or tea.
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
b) Noon:
- Raw or cooked green vegetables.
- 5 oz. lean meat or poultry.
- OR 5 to 6 oz. lean fish. You may have fattier meat or fish 3 to 4 times a week.
- 2 tablespoons oil for flavor.
c) Late-afternoon snack:
- 1 packet or 1 measure of protein.
d) Evening:
Dinner is exactly the same as lunch: 5 oz. lean meat or poultry with green vegetables.
You may have 1 to 2 dairy products per day, such as plain yogurt or 2% cottage cheese.
Comments: The second phase closely resembles the first phase, as your diet still excludes carbohydrates and ketosis continues.
I now tend to shorten this phase to less than one week so that the first phase can be extended as long as possible and protein packets are used for a late-afternoon or evening snack.
:)Just curious--you say "I now tend to shorten this phase"---does this mean that once you go off the diet you gain the weight back and ARE DOING IT OVER AGAIN?
bonjovione
03-15-2011, 01:17 PM
Interesting...I joined in Jan 2011 and didn't get the 2011 revision. My clinic really doesn't do much for me.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting.
maykatcooper
03-25-2011, 11:37 PM
Breakfast
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
It is good to know that there is an alternative if I begin to have trouble... I've liver enzyme hikes in my past and am told by my doc to not ignore problems or pain. He is a little concerned about the ketosis but very much likes the loss I'm seeing. This is good to have if there is a problem reather than throw in the towel. Thanks so much. ;)
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
It is good to know that there is an alternative if I begin to have trouble... I've liver enzyme hikes in my past and am told by my doc to not ignore problems or pain. He is a little concerned about the ketosis but very much likes the loss I'm seeing. This is good to have if there is a problem reather than throw in the towel. Thanks so much. ;)
busy2kids
04-09-2011, 12:22 AM
I am currently in phase 3 and having difficulty with what is an appropriate portion for yogurt, or cheese. I am celiac and don't know what to eat for breakfast that is low carb and not a wheat based product. I find high carb rice products make me crave wheat and I am trying to avoid that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or help on portions?
thanks!
thanks!
sunnymae
04-09-2011, 01:37 PM
I am currently in phase 3 and having difficulty with what is an appropriate portion for yogurt, or cheese. I am celiac and don't know what to eat for breakfast that is low carb and not a wheat based product. I find high carb rice products make me crave wheat and I am trying to avoid that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or help on portions?
thanks!
Hi There,
I'm gluten free as well and have really been enjoying Bobs GF hot cereal. Use 1/4 cup dry. Cook according to directions and add cinnamon, pinch of salt, few drops of liquid stevia, or WF maple syrup. You can also use unsweetened almond milk, 35-40 cals. 1 carb, 2.5 gr. fat per 8oz and use partial amount of that instead of water to thicken the gruel up. There's Silk brand and another I forget, but they're great to add to cereal.
For the yogurt, I take a 1/4 cup and mix it with my berries or fruit of choice. If I'm using a slice of cheese with my egg, I don't have the yogurt with my fruit. Here is a link for delicious low carb GF pancakes! http://healthyindulgences.blogspot.com/2009/06/fluffy-diner-style-healthy-pancakes-low.html
it's a cool blog with lots of GF ideas.
Also, there are some great low everything chicken and turkey bacon. Have 2 strips and make them in the wave. Murrays chicken bacon and trader joes makes amazing turkey bacon. one of them are GF for sure.
Enjoy and let me know how you're doing and what else you find to eat ;)
thanks!
Hi There,
I'm gluten free as well and have really been enjoying Bobs GF hot cereal. Use 1/4 cup dry. Cook according to directions and add cinnamon, pinch of salt, few drops of liquid stevia, or WF maple syrup. You can also use unsweetened almond milk, 35-40 cals. 1 carb, 2.5 gr. fat per 8oz and use partial amount of that instead of water to thicken the gruel up. There's Silk brand and another I forget, but they're great to add to cereal.
For the yogurt, I take a 1/4 cup and mix it with my berries or fruit of choice. If I'm using a slice of cheese with my egg, I don't have the yogurt with my fruit. Here is a link for delicious low carb GF pancakes! http://healthyindulgences.blogspot.com/2009/06/fluffy-diner-style-healthy-pancakes-low.html
it's a cool blog with lots of GF ideas.
Also, there are some great low everything chicken and turkey bacon. Have 2 strips and make them in the wave. Murrays chicken bacon and trader joes makes amazing turkey bacon. one of them are GF for sure.
Enjoy and let me know how you're doing and what else you find to eat ;)
dubois007
04-27-2011, 09:59 PM
I'm a newbie to the site, I read all info regarding this diet since I'm thinking of doing this diet but I'm worried that I would be hungry on it. I wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning to go to work and I don't think the diet will provide me with enough food for my long days, any suggestions. Also can you do cardio and strenght training while on this diet, if so in which phase? Thanks
showgirlaz
05-01-2011, 04:06 PM
Does anyone have a problem sleeping after having Protein snack at night?
This will be unique to each person. Some people (some body types) do not do well eating late and then sleeping. For those people having their snack in the afternoon and finishing the day with just dinner is ok. Just make sure you are not having craving, fuzzy brain, "hangover" feelings in the morning. That can indicate you are having overnight blood sugar lows. In those cases you may wish to set an alarm, wake up early, and drink a pre made shake or eat a pre made pudding. It will help keep your metabolism going and blood sugar steady.
This seems to be getting lost in daily threads. It is attached to this post for future reference.
Changes I noticed "at a glance"
- higher limit on beef, poultry, pork, veal protein
- bell peppers on select list with no restrictions about cooked/raw, color
One inconsistency that puzzles me:
- rutabaga is a select veggie -- could have 4 cups a day, 7 days a week
- swede is an occasional veggie -- limited to 2 cups/week
Aren't swede and rutabaga the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga)? (wikipedia link)
Oh IP, do you intentionally do this to confuse your clients and make them dependent on you? <sigh>
I agree Svelting! Both are the same vegetable, also known as yellow turnip btw!
I, WOULD NOT, use rutabaga as a select veg. It is very high in carb and sugars with NO fiber to balance off. 1/2 cup is 10g of carb. It is definitely and occasional and even then shouldn't be used in large quantities, IMHO.
:)Just curious--you say "I now tend to shorten this phase"---does this mean that once you go off the diet you gain the weight back and ARE DOING IT OVER AGAIN?
This is in reference to your quote of OgDog's post. OGDOG has not been on the forum in over a year. Back when she posted that she was doing the program for a second round. She had gone through the phases and learned it was better for her to use phase 1 to the fullest and then to shorten phase 2 to just what is necessary for her body to adapt back to using more real food as a means of preparing for adding in the phase 3 breakfast.
It is now the common way for many coaches to guide their clients through the phases.
It is good to know that there is an alternative if I begin to have trouble... I've liver enzyme hikes in my past and am told by my doc to not ignore problems or pain. He is a little concerned about the ketosis but very much likes the loss I'm seeing. This is good to have if there is a problem reather than throw in the towel. Thanks so much. ;)
Yes, there is an alternative. Please keep in mind, in the alternative protocol you are not trying to be in ketosis. Most people will not be. WHY? It is designed for diabetics who are unable to self regulate sugar production. Meaning, a healthy person has a mechanism (gluconeogenesis) to create new sugars without adding carbs. (those sugars come from protein, aminos, and enzymes in a complex process) If a diabetic is unable to regulate ketone production they are at risk of a serious condition, ketosacidosis. Ketase is a fine sugar but, the by product is a toxic packet - ketone which has to be eliminated. Unregulated, too much can develop and make people sick. In healthy individuals this won't happen. In diabetics and some other illness, it is a problem. In those cases, the alternative diet allows for a slower low carb weight loss with higher calories and keeps you out of ketosis.
If you choose to use that diet, remember your results are likely to be different or slower than others. You may also feel more hunger or have more cravings at times because lipolysis (a part of the ketogenic process), is not controlling craving and appetite in the same way.
I'm a newbie to the site, I read all info regarding this diet since I'm thinking of doing this diet but I'm worried that I would be hungry on it. I wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning to go to work and I don't think the diet will provide me with enough food for my long days, any suggestions. Also can you do cardio and strenght training while on this diet, if so in which phase? Thanks
If you wake up early you adapt the diet to work for your day. Do you also go to sleep earlier. Most people who do the diet are on a 15 hour day. Are you?
If you are very active you can add another packet or 2 or some added real protein to keep going. With proper coaching and adjustment anyone of unique scheduling issues can do this diet.
The exercise is not recommended until after week three and then, moderately. Walking is the best choice, light weights, or easy, stretching styles of yoga. Nothing extreme that will raise heart rate as it will require more carbs for recovery and energy. In those cases, you can end up burning muscle to survive and it will have negative impacts.
This will be unique to each person. Some people (some body types) do not do well eating late and then sleeping. For those people having their snack in the afternoon and finishing the day with just dinner is ok. Just make sure you are not having craving, fuzzy brain, "hangover" feelings in the morning. That can indicate you are having overnight blood sugar lows. In those cases you may wish to set an alarm, wake up early, and drink a pre made shake or eat a pre made pudding. It will help keep your metabolism going and blood sugar steady.
This seems to be getting lost in daily threads. It is attached to this post for future reference.
Changes I noticed "at a glance"
- higher limit on beef, poultry, pork, veal protein
- bell peppers on select list with no restrictions about cooked/raw, color
One inconsistency that puzzles me:
- rutabaga is a select veggie -- could have 4 cups a day, 7 days a week
- swede is an occasional veggie -- limited to 2 cups/week
Aren't swede and rutabaga the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga)? (wikipedia link)
Oh IP, do you intentionally do this to confuse your clients and make them dependent on you? <sigh>
I agree Svelting! Both are the same vegetable, also known as yellow turnip btw!
I, WOULD NOT, use rutabaga as a select veg. It is very high in carb and sugars with NO fiber to balance off. 1/2 cup is 10g of carb. It is definitely and occasional and even then shouldn't be used in large quantities, IMHO.
:)Just curious--you say "I now tend to shorten this phase"---does this mean that once you go off the diet you gain the weight back and ARE DOING IT OVER AGAIN?
This is in reference to your quote of OgDog's post. OGDOG has not been on the forum in over a year. Back when she posted that she was doing the program for a second round. She had gone through the phases and learned it was better for her to use phase 1 to the fullest and then to shorten phase 2 to just what is necessary for her body to adapt back to using more real food as a means of preparing for adding in the phase 3 breakfast.
It is now the common way for many coaches to guide their clients through the phases.
It is good to know that there is an alternative if I begin to have trouble... I've liver enzyme hikes in my past and am told by my doc to not ignore problems or pain. He is a little concerned about the ketosis but very much likes the loss I'm seeing. This is good to have if there is a problem reather than throw in the towel. Thanks so much. ;)
Yes, there is an alternative. Please keep in mind, in the alternative protocol you are not trying to be in ketosis. Most people will not be. WHY? It is designed for diabetics who are unable to self regulate sugar production. Meaning, a healthy person has a mechanism (gluconeogenesis) to create new sugars without adding carbs. (those sugars come from protein, aminos, and enzymes in a complex process) If a diabetic is unable to regulate ketone production they are at risk of a serious condition, ketosacidosis. Ketase is a fine sugar but, the by product is a toxic packet - ketone which has to be eliminated. Unregulated, too much can develop and make people sick. In healthy individuals this won't happen. In diabetics and some other illness, it is a problem. In those cases, the alternative diet allows for a slower low carb weight loss with higher calories and keeps you out of ketosis.
If you choose to use that diet, remember your results are likely to be different or slower than others. You may also feel more hunger or have more cravings at times because lipolysis (a part of the ketogenic process), is not controlling craving and appetite in the same way.
I'm a newbie to the site, I read all info regarding this diet since I'm thinking of doing this diet but I'm worried that I would be hungry on it. I wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning to go to work and I don't think the diet will provide me with enough food for my long days, any suggestions. Also can you do cardio and strenght training while on this diet, if so in which phase? Thanks
If you wake up early you adapt the diet to work for your day. Do you also go to sleep earlier. Most people who do the diet are on a 15 hour day. Are you?
If you are very active you can add another packet or 2 or some added real protein to keep going. With proper coaching and adjustment anyone of unique scheduling issues can do this diet.
The exercise is not recommended until after week three and then, moderately. Walking is the best choice, light weights, or easy, stretching styles of yoga. Nothing extreme that will raise heart rate as it will require more carbs for recovery and energy. In those cases, you can end up burning muscle to survive and it will have negative impacts.
kd001
05-01-2011, 07:52 PM
im on phase 1....can u tell me if i can have the beverage called "Sparkling Ice"? its carb calorie and sugar free but has a little carbonated mountain spring water in the ingredients and also sucralose....any help would be appreciated bc i really want to drink it!
dubois007
05-02-2011, 04:49 PM
Thanks Showgirlaz, for the info. I don't really sleep 8 hours as recommended asa I have a newborn (done with breastfeeding) and it's kind of hard. I started the program today so far so good and I've added the extra protein after my workout. Thanks for reminding me not to push hard because I mignt lose muscle, good info
rabarbaro
05-08-2011, 09:46 AM
Hi to everybody.... I'm italian, back from Canada yesterday... I found a shop selling this IP product and I've bought for 1 week....if I like them I'll find a way to ask someone to buy them for me ans send me over....// I've ready that there are in France ( I live near france border ) but I've never seem them here... / anyway...I've a question...I've ready in some post that in phase 1 a person could choose something from a list
"IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
"
is this also valid in phase 1 ? Any suggestions ? I'll begin next thursday...I've already done something similar, an italian diet called "tisanoreica" and it looks the same.... Help ! :-) thank you Daniela
"IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
"
is this also valid in phase 1 ? Any suggestions ? I'll begin next thursday...I've already done something similar, an italian diet called "tisanoreica" and it looks the same.... Help ! :-) thank you Daniela
GotMunchies
05-08-2011, 09:23 PM
Hi Daniela: What you posted looks like Phase 3. This would not be the phase to start with for Ideal Protein. Start with Phase 1. The food packages are expensive - so you need to research Phase 1 - where you would eat 3 packages of the IP food - adding 2 cups of (select) veggies to lunch - and dinner being 5 oz lean meat and 2 cups (select) veggies. Lettuce is unlimited. The choices that IP has for food is amazing. There is a lot of variety and you will love the diet - but really do need some coaching and instructions to start. Good Luck.
Charliesmom
05-22-2011, 06:15 PM
Hi, I'm moving into Phase 3 and have a question about counting carbs. Do I count fiber carbs? How about sugar alcohol carbs?
I am thinking of the following as a breakfast option:
1 serving old-fashioned oatmeal
1 C unsweetened almond milk
1 C blueberries
1 Peanut Butter Atkins Bar
This puts me very close to the recommended carb, fat, and protein recommendations for Phase 3 breakfast. I am a few g over on the fat, but well within the carb g if I don't count fiber.
The Atkins bar has 22g of carbs of which 10g are sugar alcohols and glycerin, and 10g are fiber. The other carbs items have some fiber g, too.
FYI, I cheated for nearly the entire time I was in Phase I by replacing the IP bars with Atkins bars and it did not seem to hinder my weight loss.
Should I count the fiber g and sugar alcohols when trying to stick with the carb limits for Phase 3?
Thanks!
I am thinking of the following as a breakfast option:
1 serving old-fashioned oatmeal
1 C unsweetened almond milk
1 C blueberries
1 Peanut Butter Atkins Bar
This puts me very close to the recommended carb, fat, and protein recommendations for Phase 3 breakfast. I am a few g over on the fat, but well within the carb g if I don't count fiber.
The Atkins bar has 22g of carbs of which 10g are sugar alcohols and glycerin, and 10g are fiber. The other carbs items have some fiber g, too.
FYI, I cheated for nearly the entire time I was in Phase I by replacing the IP bars with Atkins bars and it did not seem to hinder my weight loss.
Should I count the fiber g and sugar alcohols when trying to stick with the carb limits for Phase 3?
Thanks!
dubois007
06-02-2011, 01:20 PM
I started the program a month ago and after 2 weeks I hit a plateau. Is it normal? What should I do?
verna newcomb
06-03-2011, 11:22 AM
I did the ideal protein diet for 5 weeks thru the phases and lost 10 lbs...my question has anyone else experienced bowel changes...I tend to go more frequently and much looser than before doing this diet..very personal but I am concerned...maybe it is my bodies way of getting rid of excess food now that I am off this diet, was told it changed the way your body metabolizes food...
verna newcomb
06-03-2011, 11:28 AM
I am waiting for a reply to my question about stool changes after the ideal protein diet.....
verna newcomb
06-03-2011, 11:31 AM
I am waiting for a reply to my question about stool changes after the ideal protein diet.....I was wondering if others had changes like I did and thought perhaps the looser and more frequent movements were because of the changes my body made after doing the ideal protein diet....thankyou, vernabelle
petie
06-03-2011, 04:29 PM
Hi, thrilled to be here. THRILLED. I have had delusions of making my own rules and am grateful for some very key information. I'm phase 1. Strickly adhering to no carb/no sugar of anything not on the chart but I have fudged the fats sometimes. No more. I tripped over a post around here somewhere, that had a drill sargeant tone that rang music to my ears. That and being able to read all the (top secret) phases has provided major motivation and understanding. Very cool. I want an apple and that just makes me smile because I don't like them????? Thank you, thank you.
Linden
06-04-2011, 06:36 AM
I am waiting for a reply to my question about stool changes after the ideal protein diet.....I was wondering if others had changes like I did and thought perhaps the looser and more frequent movements were because of the changes my body made after doing the ideal protein diet....thankyou, vernabelle
Please ask your question in the Daily Chat where many more people will see it and you're sure to get answers. Since this STICKY is devoted to a discussion of the various phases, most people don't read it unless they want phase-related information.
Please ask your question in the Daily Chat where many more people will see it and you're sure to get answers. Since this STICKY is devoted to a discussion of the various phases, most people don't read it unless they want phase-related information.
maykatcooper
06-05-2011, 11:48 PM
SHOWGIRLAZ you are an incredible asset to us all! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the reasons and possible results of using the Alternative Protocol. I was borderline diabetic prior to IP but am now WELL WITHIN HEALTHY blood sugar levels. I'm off of 4 1/2 of the 9 blood pressure pills i have to take daily and moving on down. Thanks again for all your help and advice. Smile. MayKat
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TerryT
06-06-2011, 01:02 PM
Has anyone with Hypothyroidism tried this diet and if so is there success? I really did not want to pay the $$ if it would not work for people with thyroid issues.
I called the clinics in my area and the resposne was "check with your dr" and the second one I called said sure it works for everyone. I have found the everyone is not necessarily "me" and felt like they just wanted my money and did not really know about thyroid issues.
Thanks for any info.
I called the clinics in my area and the resposne was "check with your dr" and the second one I called said sure it works for everyone. I have found the everyone is not necessarily "me" and felt like they just wanted my money and did not really know about thyroid issues.
Thanks for any info.
Slimbound
06-06-2011, 10:17 PM
I have hypothyroidism and I have loss 73 lbs so far since jan. 20th
anteej9
06-12-2011, 05:26 PM
II. Second Step: Managing those slip-ups
There are minor, inconsequential slip-ups for which you don’t need to make up and major slip-ups for which you will have to make up the next day.
1. Minor Diet Slip-ups:
These usually occur when you’re not eating at home, because it’s hard to avoid fats; however, you can easily avoid carbs, or starchy foods and desserts. Have a first course and a main dish and even a small glass of wine if you like. There will be no consequences, as long as these meals don’t become a habit. Go back to your regular diet the next day.
2. Major Diet Slip-ups:
A major diet slip-up is a big meal with all the fixings. After all, you’re entitled to it, aren’t you? You can make up for a major diet slip-up the next day by avoiding all fast and slow carbs for that ONE DAY ONLY. All you have to do is you go back on the first phase of the diet for one day. Why is that? Because when you eliminate all carbohydrates the day after a big meal, you reduce the amount of insulin secreted and block fat storage. You might still gain up to two pounds the day after you, but don’t panic. You didn’t gain two pounds of fat. Your body is unable to lose two pounds of fat in a day and it can’t gain two pounds of fat in a day either. If two pounds of fat equal 9,000 calories and a woman eats an average of 2,000 calories per day, how could your body possibly store the equivalent of four to five days of meals after just one meal? What do those two pounds of fat represent then? They represent the weight of the big meal plus the water or fluid you had with it and that had not been eliminated by the time you stepped on the weigh scale the next day.
Thanks so much for info :) I have been on IP since March 27, 2011 and have lost 38 lbs so far...i LOVE this diet!! 45 to go :) I feel so energized also. Thanks again!!
There are minor, inconsequential slip-ups for which you don’t need to make up and major slip-ups for which you will have to make up the next day.
1. Minor Diet Slip-ups:
These usually occur when you’re not eating at home, because it’s hard to avoid fats; however, you can easily avoid carbs, or starchy foods and desserts. Have a first course and a main dish and even a small glass of wine if you like. There will be no consequences, as long as these meals don’t become a habit. Go back to your regular diet the next day.
2. Major Diet Slip-ups:
A major diet slip-up is a big meal with all the fixings. After all, you’re entitled to it, aren’t you? You can make up for a major diet slip-up the next day by avoiding all fast and slow carbs for that ONE DAY ONLY. All you have to do is you go back on the first phase of the diet for one day. Why is that? Because when you eliminate all carbohydrates the day after a big meal, you reduce the amount of insulin secreted and block fat storage. You might still gain up to two pounds the day after you, but don’t panic. You didn’t gain two pounds of fat. Your body is unable to lose two pounds of fat in a day and it can’t gain two pounds of fat in a day either. If two pounds of fat equal 9,000 calories and a woman eats an average of 2,000 calories per day, how could your body possibly store the equivalent of four to five days of meals after just one meal? What do those two pounds of fat represent then? They represent the weight of the big meal plus the water or fluid you had with it and that had not been eliminated by the time you stepped on the weigh scale the next day.
Thanks so much for info :) I have been on IP since March 27, 2011 and have lost 38 lbs so far...i LOVE this diet!! 45 to go :) I feel so energized also. Thanks again!!
wuv2bloved
06-13-2011, 06:32 PM
Has anyone with Hypothyroidism tried this diet and if so is there success? I really did not want to pay the $$ if it would not work for people with thyroid issues.
I called the clinics in my area and the resposne was "check with your dr" and the second one I called said sure it works for everyone. I have found the everyone is not necessarily "me" and felt like they just wanted my money and did not really know about thyroid issues.
Thanks for any info.
I have lost 38 lbs since April 27th, it works. I would recommend it to everyone. Just have to stick to it!
I called the clinics in my area and the resposne was "check with your dr" and the second one I called said sure it works for everyone. I have found the everyone is not necessarily "me" and felt like they just wanted my money and did not really know about thyroid issues.
Thanks for any info.
I have lost 38 lbs since April 27th, it works. I would recommend it to everyone. Just have to stick to it!
Hollmark
06-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Hi all, I am just ready to start phase 4 and I am very excited about it!!
Can someone please clarify to me what is meant by a cheat day not is recommended, but manditory! This does not make sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
Can someone please clarify to me what is meant by a cheat day not is recommended, but manditory! This does not make sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
darbs7
06-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Hi all, I am just ready to start phase 4 and I am very excited about it!!
Can someone please clarify to me what is meant by a cheat day not is recommended, but manditory! This does not make sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
I start phase 4 on Friday.
Without a cheat day....technically their would still be caloric deficiet and weight loss.
They want us to have cheat days....
Plus it will help keep us all motivated and sticking to healthy eating the other days of the week.
Plus if you plan for your cheat days you are still thinking about eating right and proper preparation.
Does all that make sense.
Congrats
Can someone please clarify to me what is meant by a cheat day not is recommended, but manditory! This does not make sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
I start phase 4 on Friday.
Without a cheat day....technically their would still be caloric deficiet and weight loss.
They want us to have cheat days....
Plus it will help keep us all motivated and sticking to healthy eating the other days of the week.
Plus if you plan for your cheat days you are still thinking about eating right and proper preparation.
Does all that make sense.
Congrats
Hollmark
06-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Thanks Darbs,
I guess I have been so focused on not cheating that it seems foriegn to me!
Congrats to you, too on your fabulous success!!
What a journey, it's been so worth it!
I guess I have been so focused on not cheating that it seems foriegn to me!
Congrats to you, too on your fabulous success!!
What a journey, it's been so worth it!
tlcott
06-23-2011, 02:31 PM
I have to say, Ideal Protein has been the plan that has worked best for me. I have been on it for almost 5 months and just 2 pounds away from my goal of 40. I am on Phase two for one more week then will start phase II. I have to say I am a bit nervous about the carbs. Any tips anyone might have?
Anitanewdiet
06-23-2011, 07:39 PM
I have to say, Ideal Protein has been the plan that has worked best for me. I have been on it for almost 5 months and just 2 pounds away from my goal of 40. I am on Phase two for one more week then will start phase II. I have to say I am a bit nervous about the carbs. Any tips anyone might have?
I am having the same feelings going from phase II to III All the carbs you get to eat??? I know thats the whole plan to get back to what we would eat if we ate healthy again but it's so much food but IP trained us so well about looking at the amount of carbs & sugar in the food. :?: scarey stuff
I am having the same feelings going from phase II to III All the carbs you get to eat??? I know thats the whole plan to get back to what we would eat if we ate healthy again but it's so much food but IP trained us so well about looking at the amount of carbs & sugar in the food. :?: scarey stuff
tlcott
06-24-2011, 02:31 PM
I am having the same feelings going from phase II to III All the carbs you get to eat??? I know thats the whole plan to get back to what we would eat if we ate healthy again but it's so much food but IP trained us so well about looking at the amount of carbs & sugar in the food. :?: scarey stuff
Yes it is, just need to keep the will power up and keep it in moderation! I have come too far and really don't want to be back where I was. Good luck!
Yes it is, just need to keep the will power up and keep it in moderation! I have come too far and really don't want to be back where I was. Good luck!
AHawkes
07-11-2011, 02:08 PM
Day 1 for me. Just wanted to say you all are an inspiration! Reading all of your posts has made me confident that I can do this.
I am doing my own version (poor college student :o)
Bought soy protein powder and have been mixing with Coffee for b-fast and decaf in the afternoon....Are deli meats like turkey and ham ok? My friend is on the legit diet and says no dairy, but I've been using plain, non-fat Greek yogurt as a dipping sauce. That OK?
Any advice/tips/substitutions would be amazing!
and keep up the amazing work!!!
~Ashley
I am doing my own version (poor college student :o)
Bought soy protein powder and have been mixing with Coffee for b-fast and decaf in the afternoon....Are deli meats like turkey and ham ok? My friend is on the legit diet and says no dairy, but I've been using plain, non-fat Greek yogurt as a dipping sauce. That OK?
Any advice/tips/substitutions would be amazing!
and keep up the amazing work!!!
~Ashley
cookincook
07-11-2011, 02:43 PM
Jordana,
Almond milk is low in fat, calories and carbs but high in protein. Is this considered fat? Josephs mid east breads are low in carbs, cal, fat. A good alternative? I too am new to this forum. Thanks.
Almond milk is low in fat, calories and carbs but high in protein. Is this considered fat? Josephs mid east breads are low in carbs, cal, fat. A good alternative? I too am new to this forum. Thanks.
fowegrel
07-11-2011, 05:46 PM
jordana, any dairy is considered a fat- ok for phase 3 at breakfats and phase 4 at breakfast and lunch.
TDC59531
07-18-2011, 06:42 PM
what kind of dressing may you have on the ideal protien diet
dancer41
07-18-2011, 09:10 PM
I just started the Ideal Protein Diet last week and have already seen a significant drop in weight. I just wanted to thank you for the posts itemizing the phases. It is most helpful.
Bellamack
07-18-2011, 09:40 PM
what kind of dressing may you have on the ideal protien diet
I hate the WF dressings that many others like. I just make the Good Seasons with vinegar/H2O/ EVOO and everyone likes it.
I hate the WF dressings that many others like. I just make the Good Seasons with vinegar/H2O/ EVOO and everyone likes it.
leganegan
07-22-2011, 11:27 AM
what kind of dressing may you have on the ideal protien diet
I hate the WF dressings too, but found that the caesar is good if I add pepper, salt, garlic powder, onion powder and lemon juice. I also like the WF Sundried tomato dressing, and I am not a fan of sundried tomatoes normally.
I like Rice vinegar and lemon juice with evoo, for a light refreshing dressing.
I hate the WF dressings too, but found that the caesar is good if I add pepper, salt, garlic powder, onion powder and lemon juice. I also like the WF Sundried tomato dressing, and I am not a fan of sundried tomatoes normally.
I like Rice vinegar and lemon juice with evoo, for a light refreshing dressing.
elliotte
08-30-2011, 08:07 PM
Hey Choosie, sorry it took me so long to answer your question - I don't check all the threads all the time!
That's too bad about your coach - it does seem that some of them are useless!
You are absolutely correct that you can have oatmeal or steel cut oats as long as it's under 30 g of carbs and yes, milk is considered a fat! It's hard to wrap your brain around things when you've been doing something else and gotten used to that lol. I know I've looked at the phase 3 sheet a few different times trying to figure everything out...and that's just breakfast, imagine once we're on maintenance!
can you help with breakfast. I cant figure it our. What are a couple of complete breakfasts that you can have in Phase 3
That's too bad about your coach - it does seem that some of them are useless!
You are absolutely correct that you can have oatmeal or steel cut oats as long as it's under 30 g of carbs and yes, milk is considered a fat! It's hard to wrap your brain around things when you've been doing something else and gotten used to that lol. I know I've looked at the phase 3 sheet a few different times trying to figure everything out...and that's just breakfast, imagine once we're on maintenance!
can you help with breakfast. I cant figure it our. What are a couple of complete breakfasts that you can have in Phase 3
Make me Thin
09-15-2011, 09:57 AM
Hi everyone I am new to this site as well. I have been on Ideal Protein for 4 weeks and I have lost 14.8 lbs so I am very happy. Still need to lose 35 lbs and I love this program.
2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-15-2011, 10:21 AM
Hi everyone I am new to this site as well. I have been on Ideal Protein for 4 weeks and I have lost 14.8 lbs so I am very happy. Still need to lose 35 lbs and I love this program.Welcome Make me, IP is a wonderful program. Please join us on the daily thread.
odirish
09-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Can I ask how you heard of this diet? Did you go to a weightloss clinic or is it a book?
Thanks
mary Ann
Thanks
mary Ann
leganegan
09-21-2011, 03:15 PM
Can I ask how you heard of this diet? Did you go to a weightloss clinic or is it a book?
Thanks
mary Ann
serach the web for an ideal protein coach/clinic in your city. Best program.
Thanks
mary Ann
serach the web for an ideal protein coach/clinic in your city. Best program.
balter
11-06-2011, 12:55 AM
Hi everyone. I have been on phase 1 for about 5 weeks. I lost 12p the first 3 weeks, however not one more pound since then. Any ideas on how to kick start my weight loss.
wuv2bloved
11-06-2011, 01:02 AM
Hi everyone. I have been on phase 1 for about 5 weeks. I lost 12p the first 3 weeks, however not one more pound since then. Any ideas on how to kick start my weight loss.
Can you give us an idea of what your day of eating consist of?
Can you give us an idea of what your day of eating consist of?
debz2boys
11-08-2011, 06:03 PM
Everything I have read so far says plain yogurt...I don't know if I can do the plain. Switching to greek is going to be a big enough adjustment. I found Stoneyfield nonfat greek vanilla (has 15grams of sugar). Is that ok to have with my breakfast in Phase 3? Do other people eat yogurt again with lunch and dinner or just once with breakfast?
csigma381
11-27-2011, 10:25 PM
I'm so bummed , This is my 12th week on IP and I feel like my weight loss is just moving along at a snail's pace- I started off pretty strong about 2-3 lbs a week, now for the last couple of weeks it's been 1/2 lb, 1/4lb, 1 lb any advice for still keeping motivated for those last stubborn pounds?
ashwal
12-02-2011, 10:18 PM
So I have been really good all week. I lost 4 pounds and several inches but tonight I had a holiday party and I could not resist the brie cheese and desserts.....So I am really upset, it was going really well...lesson learned I cannot resist the temptation. I ate about 45g of extra fat than I have while I have been on the diet. What do I do to get back on track and how badly did I mess up? HELP!!!!
wuv2bloved
12-02-2011, 10:24 PM
So I have been really good all week. I lost 4 pounds and several inches but tonight I had a holiday party and I could not resist the brie cheese and desserts.....So I am really upset, it was going really well...lesson learned I cannot resist the temptation. I ate about 45g of extra fat than I have while I have been on the diet. What do I do to get back on track and how badly did I mess up? HELP!!!!
Get right back on the wagon, don't wait. What is done is done can't change that. Don't beat yourself up, pick yourself up instead :)
Get right back on the wagon, don't wait. What is done is done can't change that. Don't beat yourself up, pick yourself up instead :)
karathanasis
12-26-2011, 12:36 PM
Hi
I want to try this program but I don't want to join a diet center. In the past when I was on slim 4 life I ordered protein products online. How many grams of protein are in the Ideal Protein diet packets?
I just was wondering if I could do the diet without joining any diet program?
Any suggestions or input would be appreciated.
Thanks
I want to try this program but I don't want to join a diet center. In the past when I was on slim 4 life I ordered protein products online. How many grams of protein are in the Ideal Protein diet packets?
I just was wondering if I could do the diet without joining any diet program?
Any suggestions or input would be appreciated.
Thanks
wuv2bloved
12-26-2011, 02:52 PM
Hi
I want to try this program but I don't want to join a diet center. In the past when I was on slim 4 life I ordered protein products online. How many grams of protein are in the Ideal Protein diet packets?
I just was wondering if I could do the diet without joining any diet program?
Any suggestions or input would be appreciated.
Thanks
See if this will answer your question....Let me know if this is what you were looking for....Lisa
I want to try this program but I don't want to join a diet center. In the past when I was on slim 4 life I ordered protein products online. How many grams of protein are in the Ideal Protein diet packets?
I just was wondering if I could do the diet without joining any diet program?
Any suggestions or input would be appreciated.
Thanks
See if this will answer your question....Let me know if this is what you were looking for....Lisa
karathanasis
12-26-2011, 04:47 PM
That is exactly what I was looking for. Did you join a diet program to do the Ideal Protein Diet or are you doing it by yourself?
Thanks:)
Thanks:)
wuv2bloved
12-26-2011, 05:01 PM
That is exactly what I was looking for. Did you join a diet program to do the Ideal Protein Diet or are you doing it by yourself?
Thanks:)
I joined, I go weigh in once a week and get my food at that time:D
Thanks:)
I joined, I go weigh in once a week and get my food at that time:D
omgzitsmiranda
01-04-2012, 11:44 PM
Does anyone here NOT take the vitamins & supplements they suggest that you buy from them? Also, if you're NOT taking them are you still losing as much weight as someone that IS taking them?
wuv2bloved
01-05-2012, 01:42 AM
Does anyone here NOT take the vitamins & supplements they suggest that you buy from them? Also, if you're NOT taking them are you still losing as much weight as someone that IS taking them?
After I finished my first month of the supplements I didn't buy them from IP again. I just use the Centrum for woman multi vitiam, Omega 3, 6,9 from Sam's, potassium from walmart and the cal/mag from walmart. My weight losses have not changed. The supplements are to get the nutrition we don't get from out diet, not to help you lose the weight.
After I finished my first month of the supplements I didn't buy them from IP again. I just use the Centrum for woman multi vitiam, Omega 3, 6,9 from Sam's, potassium from walmart and the cal/mag from walmart. My weight losses have not changed. The supplements are to get the nutrition we don't get from out diet, not to help you lose the weight.
mamacitaof2
01-05-2012, 07:32 AM
I use the same supplements as Wuv. They are very inexpensive and necessary. You also need to have sea salt! I've read a lot of posts of people getting really bad headaches. I did on day two and just ended up going to bed. I hadn't heard about licking salt of you palm and having a glass of water yet. :)
omgzitsmiranda
01-07-2012, 11:01 AM
After I finished my first month of the supplements I didn't buy them from IP again. I just use the Centrum for woman multi vitiam, Omega 3, 6,9 from Sam's, potassium from walmart and the cal/mag from walmart. My weight losses have not changed. The supplements are to get the nutrition we don't get from out diet, not to help you lose the weight.
Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry to bother you, but I was just wondering if you could possibly tell me exactly what yours are? I need to pick some up and I've looked all over the threads, but I'm getting pretty overwhelmed with all the "difference" in what people are taking :(
Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry to bother you, but I was just wondering if you could possibly tell me exactly what yours are? I need to pick some up and I've looked all over the threads, but I'm getting pretty overwhelmed with all the "difference" in what people are taking :(
purple sky
01-24-2012, 03:18 PM
Bumping so this thread is not buried. Lots of useful data sheets in here with phases and alternative phases and nutritional info.
VanCanGirl
01-24-2012, 07:25 PM
Hi all,
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
wuv2bloved
01-24-2012, 07:51 PM
Hi all,
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
Add some salt to your day, put 1/2tsp of sea salt and lick it off the palm of your hand then drink water. Your BP maybe low or your electorlytes
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
Add some salt to your day, put 1/2tsp of sea salt and lick it off the palm of your hand then drink water. Your BP maybe low or your electorlytes
infoplease
01-24-2012, 07:55 PM
Hi all,
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
I never did get any kind of energy surge, more of just feeling better a bit at a time as more weight comes off.
First, do they check your blood pressure? Mine dropped pretty low pretty quick. Suggestions for this are be sure you are getting in the 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt per day(I measure it) or even add caffeine (the salt helps me).
Next, are you eating any restricted IP packets? Having one per day also helped. If your clinic is having you hold off on that, be sure to have some of the restricted vegetables twice a week.
Then, the regular non-diet related stuff: are you coming down with something? close to TOM? allergies? weather?
My theory is that some of us have some really bad stuff in our fat and it affects us differently. Also, some of us have really messed up our body systems, so starting to use fat for fuel is confusing (and a bit exhausting) to our bodies, kind of like an old car that you have to start up in just a certain way before it will turn on and run smoothly. It really does get better and the need for so much sleep does let up.
Certainly if you continue to feel badly for a week or two straight, consider visiting your doctor.
I am on my second week of IP; started last Monday and I have already lost 6 pounds. Last week I felt fine most of the week, but this week (yesterday and today even more so) I am feeling very tired and lethargic :dz:
My nutritionist warned me that the first 1-2 weeks you may feel tired and to refrain from working out, but since I felt so little fatigue last week, I assumed I'd feel even better this week - that's not the case.
I'm not having any problem with hunger or cravings; I enjoy the food and find the program very easy to follow, but this is the only niggling thing that is bothering me - my low energy levels.
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
I never did get any kind of energy surge, more of just feeling better a bit at a time as more weight comes off.
First, do they check your blood pressure? Mine dropped pretty low pretty quick. Suggestions for this are be sure you are getting in the 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt per day(I measure it) or even add caffeine (the salt helps me).
Next, are you eating any restricted IP packets? Having one per day also helped. If your clinic is having you hold off on that, be sure to have some of the restricted vegetables twice a week.
Then, the regular non-diet related stuff: are you coming down with something? close to TOM? allergies? weather?
My theory is that some of us have some really bad stuff in our fat and it affects us differently. Also, some of us have really messed up our body systems, so starting to use fat for fuel is confusing (and a bit exhausting) to our bodies, kind of like an old car that you have to start up in just a certain way before it will turn on and run smoothly. It really does get better and the need for so much sleep does let up.
Certainly if you continue to feel badly for a week or two straight, consider visiting your doctor.
Linden
01-25-2012, 05:44 AM
Has anyone else experienced this? Can you offer some suggestions? :shrug:
Everything info says is really good, I think, especially the bit about blood pressure. I'd just add that not getting enough water can make you tired and stop flushing stuff out of your system. Probably related.
Everything info says is really good, I think, especially the bit about blood pressure. I'd just add that not getting enough water can make you tired and stop flushing stuff out of your system. Probably related.
wuv2bloved
01-25-2012, 10:43 PM
It was brought to my attention by PeggyG that the Phaase 1 sheet is the old sheet, this one is dated 2011 So I am assuming I have the most current one. Someone please correct me if I am wrong :)
mvwillow
01-27-2012, 11:38 PM
Hi everyone. I've been doing IP for the last 9+ months and lost 63 lbs. I feel like I should lose about 7 more so when I go into maintenance and maybe adjust by gaining a few lbs, it will help. But I seem to be stuck at the 63 lbs loss. I'm also getting really tired of a whole life of IP but even tho I'm still doing phase I and not really losing anymore, it's making me fear going in to other phases and what will happen.
My coach was also useless during the whole time, and I really need help to see some sample menus for Phase 3 and 4. I've seen a ton of recipes, but i need help with whole day menu samples. Can you guys help???
My coach was also useless during the whole time, and I really need help to see some sample menus for Phase 3 and 4. I've seen a ton of recipes, but i need help with whole day menu samples. Can you guys help???
purple sky
01-28-2012, 02:18 AM
I never did get any kind of energy surge, more of just feeling better a bit at a time as more weight comes off.
First, do they check your blood pressure? Mine dropped pretty low pretty quick. Suggestions for this are be sure you are getting in the 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt per day(I measure it) or even add caffeine (the salt helps me).
Next, are you eating any restricted IP packets? Having one per day also helped. If your clinic is having you hold off on that, be sure to have some of the restricted vegetables twice a week.
Then, the regular non-diet related stuff: are you coming down with something? close to TOM? allergies? weather?
My theory is that some of us have some really bad stuff in our fat and it affects us differently. Also, some of us have really messed up our body systems, so starting to use fat for fuel is confusing (and a bit exhausting) to our bodies, kind of like an old car that you have to start up in just a certain way before it will turn on and run smoothly. It really does get better and the need for so much sleep does let up.
Certainly if you continue to feel badly for a week or two straight, consider visiting your doctor.
I wonder about that. Interesting theory. I, too, never had that burst of energy. And often I am hungry. So everyone is different. But, I am curious about your theory. Strange things can happen when stuff is released.
First, do they check your blood pressure? Mine dropped pretty low pretty quick. Suggestions for this are be sure you are getting in the 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt per day(I measure it) or even add caffeine (the salt helps me).
Next, are you eating any restricted IP packets? Having one per day also helped. If your clinic is having you hold off on that, be sure to have some of the restricted vegetables twice a week.
Then, the regular non-diet related stuff: are you coming down with something? close to TOM? allergies? weather?
My theory is that some of us have some really bad stuff in our fat and it affects us differently. Also, some of us have really messed up our body systems, so starting to use fat for fuel is confusing (and a bit exhausting) to our bodies, kind of like an old car that you have to start up in just a certain way before it will turn on and run smoothly. It really does get better and the need for so much sleep does let up.
Certainly if you continue to feel badly for a week or two straight, consider visiting your doctor.
I wonder about that. Interesting theory. I, too, never had that burst of energy. And often I am hungry. So everyone is different. But, I am curious about your theory. Strange things can happen when stuff is released.
Chix
01-28-2012, 02:07 PM
Hello everyone. Im excited to start IP on my own. I ordered some material about the program and printed out some food comparison charts in case I want to order alternative products but I am still a little confused about a few basic ideas of phase 1. From what I understand, per day it's:
3 IP packets, 5-8oz protein (I have a list of permitted items), 4 cups of veggies (I have a list of permitted items), 64 oz of water, supplements and 1-2 teaspoons of olive/grape seed oil.
My question is....is a soup pack the same as a pudding or drink mix or soy puff or protein bar?? I understand that some items are "restricted" meaning 1 per day but does a pudding or an orange drink mix etc count as an actual IP MEAL PACKET or are these things snacks?? I am about to order some food and I just want to be clear. Any help would be great. Thank you!!
3 IP packets, 5-8oz protein (I have a list of permitted items), 4 cups of veggies (I have a list of permitted items), 64 oz of water, supplements and 1-2 teaspoons of olive/grape seed oil.
My question is....is a soup pack the same as a pudding or drink mix or soy puff or protein bar?? I understand that some items are "restricted" meaning 1 per day but does a pudding or an orange drink mix etc count as an actual IP MEAL PACKET or are these things snacks?? I am about to order some food and I just want to be clear. Any help would be great. Thank you!!
wuv2bloved
01-28-2012, 02:35 PM
Hi everyone. I've been doing IP for the last 9+ months and lost 63 lbs. I feel like I should lose about 7 more so when I go into maintenance and maybe adjust by gaining a few lbs, it will help. But I seem to be stuck at the 63 lbs loss. I'm also getting really tired of a whole life of IP but even tho I'm still doing phase I and not really losing anymore, it's making me fear going in to other phases and what will happen.
My coach was also useless during the whole time, and I really need help to see some sample menus for Phase 3 and 4. I've seen a ton of recipes, but i need help with whole day menu samples. Can you guys help???
You might wanna ask in the experienced or the Maintainance Thread, they would be able to help you out more. Also check the sticky's.
My coach was also useless during the whole time, and I really need help to see some sample menus for Phase 3 and 4. I've seen a ton of recipes, but i need help with whole day menu samples. Can you guys help???
You might wanna ask in the experienced or the Maintainance Thread, they would be able to help you out more. Also check the sticky's.
wuv2bloved
01-28-2012, 02:39 PM
Hello everyone. Im excited to start IP on my own. I ordered some material about the program and printed out some food comparison charts in case I want to order alternative products but I am still a little confused about a few basic ideas of phase 1. From what I understand, per day it's:
3 IP packets, 5-8oz protein (I have a list of permitted items), 4 cups of veggies (I have a list of permitted items), 64 oz of water, supplements and 1-2 teaspoons of olive/grape seed oil.
My question is....is a soup pack the same as a pudding or drink mix or soy puff or protein bar?? I understand that some items are "restricted" meaning 1 per day but does a pudding or an orange drink mix etc count as an actual IP MEAL PACKET or are these things snacks?? I am about to order some food and I just want to be clear. Any help would be great. Thank you!!
I am attaching the Nutritional fact sheet for the IP products, it tells you what is restricted or not restricted, this should help you
3 IP packets, 5-8oz protein (I have a list of permitted items), 4 cups of veggies (I have a list of permitted items), 64 oz of water, supplements and 1-2 teaspoons of olive/grape seed oil.
My question is....is a soup pack the same as a pudding or drink mix or soy puff or protein bar?? I understand that some items are "restricted" meaning 1 per day but does a pudding or an orange drink mix etc count as an actual IP MEAL PACKET or are these things snacks?? I am about to order some food and I just want to be clear. Any help would be great. Thank you!!
I am attaching the Nutritional fact sheet for the IP products, it tells you what is restricted or not restricted, this should help you
petsitter144
01-31-2012, 01:27 PM
Hi I Just Recently Started Ip Too.....like 3 Days Ago... I Feel Weak, Constipated And Bloated. I Have Been Just Drinking The Choc Drinks As I Like Nothing Else. My Husband Is Also Doing This And Not Having Any Problems....go Figure...
kracker
02-02-2012, 02:15 AM
It was great to find this blog with other people doing the same diet!! Thanks for being out there!
I've just started and my coach was unavailable this past week so I've only see her once.
It says on the phase 1 instruction, "sweetener permitted", but my coach didn't know anything about it at my first visit. Does anyone know what sweetener is allowed?
And I love the chocolate pre-mixed drinks. Does the powdered chocolate drink taste the same?
edit: I'm reading through past posts and noticing that some are told to join the "daily post" - can someone provide a link to that - so I can find it? Really want to gain from the experience of others who've been on the diet for awhile successfully..
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/bar070/cartoonstar01/lb/220/135/206/.png (http://www.3fatchicks.com/)
I've just started and my coach was unavailable this past week so I've only see her once.
It says on the phase 1 instruction, "sweetener permitted", but my coach didn't know anything about it at my first visit. Does anyone know what sweetener is allowed?
And I love the chocolate pre-mixed drinks. Does the powdered chocolate drink taste the same?
edit: I'm reading through past posts and noticing that some are told to join the "daily post" - can someone provide a link to that - so I can find it? Really want to gain from the experience of others who've been on the diet for awhile successfully..
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/bar070/cartoonstar01/lb/220/135/206/.png (http://www.3fatchicks.com/)
NavyMommy
02-02-2012, 09:31 AM
It was great to find this blog with other people doing the same diet!! Thanks for being out there!
I've just started and my coach was unavailable this past week so I've only see her once.
It says on the phase 1 instruction, "sweetener permitted", but my coach didn't know anything about it at my first visit. Does anyone know what sweetener is allowed?
And I love the chocolate pre-mixed drinks. Does the powdered chocolate drink taste the same?
edit: I'm reading through past posts and noticing that some are told to join the "daily post" - can someone provide a link to that - so I can find it? Really want to gain from the experience of others who've been on the diet for awhile successfully..
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/bar070/cartoonstar01/lb/220/135/206/.png (http://www.3fatchicks.com/)
Welcome!! The sweeteners we are allowed are Splenda and Stevia. Aspartame is not allowed on this diet, because it can trick your body into releasing insulin which is what we don't want to do.
I never tried the chocolate RTD so I can't help you there, but I like the chocolate pudding made into a 'shake' by adding a little extra water.
Here's the link to today's daily thread IP Daily Chat Thursday 2/2/2012 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/252051-ip-daily-chat-thursday-2-2-2012-a.html). Welcome again and jump right in!!
I've just started and my coach was unavailable this past week so I've only see her once.
It says on the phase 1 instruction, "sweetener permitted", but my coach didn't know anything about it at my first visit. Does anyone know what sweetener is allowed?
And I love the chocolate pre-mixed drinks. Does the powdered chocolate drink taste the same?
edit: I'm reading through past posts and noticing that some are told to join the "daily post" - can someone provide a link to that - so I can find it? Really want to gain from the experience of others who've been on the diet for awhile successfully..
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/bar070/cartoonstar01/lb/220/135/206/.png (http://www.3fatchicks.com/)
Welcome!! The sweeteners we are allowed are Splenda and Stevia. Aspartame is not allowed on this diet, because it can trick your body into releasing insulin which is what we don't want to do.
I never tried the chocolate RTD so I can't help you there, but I like the chocolate pudding made into a 'shake' by adding a little extra water.
Here's the link to today's daily thread IP Daily Chat Thursday 2/2/2012 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/252051-ip-daily-chat-thursday-2-2-2012-a.html). Welcome again and jump right in!!
bikinibomb
02-02-2012, 05:48 PM
Does anyone have a Phase 4 pdf ?
wuv2bloved
02-02-2012, 07:05 PM
Does anyone have a Phase 4 pdf ?
This is what I have...it may be an old one though
This is what I have...it may be an old one though
kracker
02-04-2012, 05:02 PM
be patient with me. I'm new this blogging stuff and can't figure out to post a new post after a thread is closed. so didn't know how to get this on the daily post -- this is a phase question anyway so maybe it belongs here.
Saw my coach yesterday. She was unavailable last week so the receptionist at the front desk filled my food order. My 3rd order form. When my coach saw it, she was upset because I had ordered and ate a package of "spaghetti bolognese" during my last week. She said I wasn't allowed to have this yet. that it's only given to men. Said I can only have the chili.
Can you tell what phase women can have the "spaghetti bolognese"? The only answer my coach had was that I had to wait until I reintroduced carbohydrates. We were interrupted and she needed to get the phones. I couldn't wait so went to my next appt while she waved goodbye.
Saw my coach yesterday. She was unavailable last week so the receptionist at the front desk filled my food order. My 3rd order form. When my coach saw it, she was upset because I had ordered and ate a package of "spaghetti bolognese" during my last week. She said I wasn't allowed to have this yet. that it's only given to men. Said I can only have the chili.
Can you tell what phase women can have the "spaghetti bolognese"? The only answer my coach had was that I had to wait until I reintroduced carbohydrates. We were interrupted and she needed to get the phones. I couldn't wait so went to my next appt while she waved goodbye.
wuv2bloved
02-04-2012, 05:09 PM
be patient with me. I'm new this blogging stuff and can't figure out to post a new post after a thread is closed. so didn't know how to get this on the daily post -- this is a phase question anyway so maybe it belongs here.
Saw my coach yesterday. She was unavailable last week so the receptionist at the front desk filled my food order. My 3rd order form. When my coach saw it, she was upset because I had ordered and ate a package of "spaghetti bolognese" during my last week. She said I wasn't allowed to have this yet. that it's only given to men. Said I can only have the chili.
Can you tell what phase women can have the "spaghetti bolognese"? The only answer my coach had was that I had to wait until I reintroduced carbohydrates. We were interrupted and she needed to get the phones. I couldn't wait so went to my next appt while she waved goodbye.
Kracker, I think your name is a good name for your coach!....You can have the sketti ONCE or TWICE a week....its NOT ONLY for MEN...I have never heard of such a thing. Its an occasional packet, it is even listed on your protocol sheet as such.....Man I don't understand some coaches...GRRRRR....don't freak out...Trust me you are fine....and if she is UPSET with you then she is NOT a good coach, 1- for not being there to advise you on your food and 2 for being upset with you when you are just starting. DON'T let her/him get to you....YOU ARE DOING GREAT!
Saw my coach yesterday. She was unavailable last week so the receptionist at the front desk filled my food order. My 3rd order form. When my coach saw it, she was upset because I had ordered and ate a package of "spaghetti bolognese" during my last week. She said I wasn't allowed to have this yet. that it's only given to men. Said I can only have the chili.
Can you tell what phase women can have the "spaghetti bolognese"? The only answer my coach had was that I had to wait until I reintroduced carbohydrates. We were interrupted and she needed to get the phones. I couldn't wait so went to my next appt while she waved goodbye.
Kracker, I think your name is a good name for your coach!....You can have the sketti ONCE or TWICE a week....its NOT ONLY for MEN...I have never heard of such a thing. Its an occasional packet, it is even listed on your protocol sheet as such.....Man I don't understand some coaches...GRRRRR....don't freak out...Trust me you are fine....and if she is UPSET with you then she is NOT a good coach, 1- for not being there to advise you on your food and 2 for being upset with you when you are just starting. DON'T let her/him get to you....YOU ARE DOING GREAT!
dawn c
02-05-2012, 01:46 AM
I haven't seen the stew available in my area? Is it phased out? I heard of the new "mashed potatoes" and saw someone post about a stew...I live in Northern NJ.
idealme
02-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Breakfast
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
wait wait...this is phase one??? were allowed bread?? I have never heard of this....are you sure?
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed
lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce
dinner
7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies
snack
1 IP packet
Compulsory
64 oz water
1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil
regular IP supplements
IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.
GROUP 1
2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn
Group 2
fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.
group 3
1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese
Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.
wait wait...this is phase one??? were allowed bread?? I have never heard of this....are you sure?
NavyMommy
02-05-2012, 05:48 PM
wait wait...this is phase one??? were allowed bread?? I have never heard of this....are you sure?
No, that is the adjusted protocol for diabetics I believe. Check in the attachments that have been posted, there you will find the actual phase 1 sheets.
No, that is the adjusted protocol for diabetics I believe. Check in the attachments that have been posted, there you will find the actual phase 1 sheets.
idealme
02-05-2012, 05:59 PM
darn I got all excited lol
JBCAPE
02-11-2012, 08:14 AM
hi
I am happy so far since I did lose 5 lbs and seem to be able to stick to this diet pretty well. Yesterday I did have a headache and felt weak until the afternoon. Then it went away. I eat the dinner at lunch since I can do that easy. The packaged food seems weird and pasty but it is worth it I guess. I just look at the Recipes on this site and they are hopeful.
I had the most trouble with that crepe and ended up tossing not only the crepe but the whole pan in the trash and eating nothing.
I am sure I will get the hang of it. I gained 13 lbs this past year due to a severe hip disablity and pain so I am not able to do exercise. I need the hip replaced and this diet will get weight off. I am only about 20 lbs overweight but it is causing issues with my hip pain and my wearing clothing I like. I look matron like in a dress and this will fix that I am sure.
Okay, I'll get this thread started so it doesn't get taken away.
Phase I is very low calorie, low carb and low fat.
Phase I includes 3 Ideal Protein Packets per day and one regular (restricted) meal that can be eaten at any time (lunch, dinner or even breakfast.) Phase I includes lettuce salads and some (not all) vegetables and some mandatory vitamin and mineral supplements.
The packets are powdered soups, shakes, and small portions of chili, spaghetti and hearty stew that are mixed with water to prepare. Protein bars can be used instead of a packet. Some packets and the bars are restricted to once a day.
Phase I is the most restricted and I was told I would be on it until I reached 80% of my goal weight at which time I would go to Phase II which I think means I will go down to 2 IP packets per day and 2 regular meals per day.
I have been on Phase I for 3 weeks and have lost 17 pounds. I have not cheated. I am down to one pair of jeans (loose size 14) I am 5'8"
I threw out 3 pairs of size 16 jeans that were too baggy on me.
My motivation to go on this diet were my brother who lost 90 pounds and his wife who lost over 40 pounds in one year. They both look great. My other brother and my 3 sisters and I plus several nieces and nephews all recently started on this diet and we are all having great success.
The first 3 days are the hardest.
I am in my fourth week and I am almost never hungry. I am eating according to the plan but I have lost interest in most foods. I can even watch the food channel and it doesn't cause me any cravings. I sit in restaurants and am not tempted by other people's dishes.
I highly recommend this diet if you want fast results. But you have to be ready to commit to it and be prepared to NOT CHEAT. If you cheat, it just won't work and you are wasting your time and money.
I am happy so far since I did lose 5 lbs and seem to be able to stick to this diet pretty well. Yesterday I did have a headache and felt weak until the afternoon. Then it went away. I eat the dinner at lunch since I can do that easy. The packaged food seems weird and pasty but it is worth it I guess. I just look at the Recipes on this site and they are hopeful.
I had the most trouble with that crepe and ended up tossing not only the crepe but the whole pan in the trash and eating nothing.
I am sure I will get the hang of it. I gained 13 lbs this past year due to a severe hip disablity and pain so I am not able to do exercise. I need the hip replaced and this diet will get weight off. I am only about 20 lbs overweight but it is causing issues with my hip pain and my wearing clothing I like. I look matron like in a dress and this will fix that I am sure.
Okay, I'll get this thread started so it doesn't get taken away.
Phase I is very low calorie, low carb and low fat.
Phase I includes 3 Ideal Protein Packets per day and one regular (restricted) meal that can be eaten at any time (lunch, dinner or even breakfast.) Phase I includes lettuce salads and some (not all) vegetables and some mandatory vitamin and mineral supplements.
The packets are powdered soups, shakes, and small portions of chili, spaghetti and hearty stew that are mixed with water to prepare. Protein bars can be used instead of a packet. Some packets and the bars are restricted to once a day.
Phase I is the most restricted and I was told I would be on it until I reached 80% of my goal weight at which time I would go to Phase II which I think means I will go down to 2 IP packets per day and 2 regular meals per day.
I have been on Phase I for 3 weeks and have lost 17 pounds. I have not cheated. I am down to one pair of jeans (loose size 14) I am 5'8"
I threw out 3 pairs of size 16 jeans that were too baggy on me.
My motivation to go on this diet were my brother who lost 90 pounds and his wife who lost over 40 pounds in one year. They both look great. My other brother and my 3 sisters and I plus several nieces and nephews all recently started on this diet and we are all having great success.
The first 3 days are the hardest.
I am in my fourth week and I am almost never hungry. I am eating according to the plan but I have lost interest in most foods. I can even watch the food channel and it doesn't cause me any cravings. I sit in restaurants and am not tempted by other people's dishes.
I highly recommend this diet if you want fast results. But you have to be ready to commit to it and be prepared to NOT CHEAT. If you cheat, it just won't work and you are wasting your time and money.