Does it Work? - Phenocal and Proactol
Butterfly10
04-06-2008, 09:49 PM
has anyone tried these? I have been researching for a few wks now and these are the two that seem the best with virtually NO side effects. I have NEVER taken a diet pill in my life and want a jump start. I have been working out and eating right and have lost about 3 pounds. I need a boost.
Thanks!!!
Butterfly10
04-08-2008, 05:58 PM
So, no one has heard about this diet pill? I did a Yahoo answer search and had several people say that it works-you have to eat right etc. But there arent any of the jittery side effects. I am on the fence as I have never tried a pill in my life <to lose weight>
Thanks!
nelie
04-08-2008, 06:12 PM
Sorry, diet pills really only work as much as you believe them to work and they are sometimes dangerous. There are a few people here who have done research into diet pill ingredients and can give you information based on the ingredients.
I personally looked at the ingredients and it looks like they put fiber in it to make you feel full and other standard diet pill ingredients that aren't proven to work. They also put B vitamins in it which help you feel good.
Also, 5-htp looks to be another mood enhancer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-HTP
Green tea in its natural form has awesome antioxidants and there has been some evidence that drinking green tea can have some minimal effect on weight loss. There has been no proof that it has the same effect in pill form.
Here are some excerpts of the various ingredients in the pill as reviewed by the friendly people who brought you 3FC
Hoodia - Hoodia does show promise but only in the actual plant and there have been issues with harvesting it for use. Here is an entire article on it
http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Supplements/Hoodia_Gordonii/
Chromium -
http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Supplements/Chromium_Picolinate/
Chromium is believed to be an essential trace mineral. One form, chromium picolinate, has been sold as a weight loss aid for many years. It is claimed to boost athletic performance, build muscle, and promote weight loss. The Federal Trade Commission have determined these claims to be deceptive.
While chromium may have health benefits, extensive clinical trials have shown that chromium does not have an effect on weight loss. Chromium can cause side effects in many people, including everything from stomach discomfort to genetic mutations in DNA. Chromium may also interfere with other supplements or medications.
Conclusion:
Avoid chromium supplements. They do not aid weight loss, and could result in health problems.
Garcinia -
http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Supplements/Garcinia_%28HCA%29/
Garcinia, or Hydroxycitric Acid (HCA), is commonly sold as a weight loss supplement. It is available alone, but is usually sold in a combination pill that includes other supplements such as ephedra or chromium. It is often sold as CitriMax or CitraLean. It is claimed to reduce appetite, burn fat, or prevent the formation of fat.
Studies on animals suggested that HCA might affect the way the body burns carbohydrates and stores fat. However, no studies have shown similar effects on humans. An extensive study by JAMA concluded: Garcinia cambogia failed to produce significant weight loss and fat mass loss beyond that observed with placebo.
Is HCA safe? According to Berkeley Wellness: no one knows if HCA has any long-term adverse effects; some animal research found that it's toxic. It may be combined with other diet compounds, and the safety of such products?witch's brews of herbs and chemicals?is certainly questionable. The PDR for Nutritional Supplements states that pregnant or nursing mothers, and those with dementia syndromes such as Alzheimer's disease should avoid HCA. They also state that those with diabetes should be cautious with it.
Conclusion:
There is no evidence to show that HCA is beneficial for weight loss, and it can be harmful in some cases. Recent studies have also linked it to liver damage. It is better to wait and see what future research shows before taking it.
Butterfly10
04-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Nelie- Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it! ;)
CuzIcan
07-01-2008, 01:36 AM
:) My appetite has been suppressed, I have a lot more energy, exercise is important and trying to eat sensible meals do help.
Butterfly10
07-01-2008, 05:51 PM
wich one did you take and how long have you been taking it?
Side effects?
Thanks!!:)
CuzIcan
07-02-2008, 05:48 PM
:) I have been taking the Phenocal, once in the morning and once mid-afternoon. I started taking them about a week ago. No side effects. I don't feel hungry and I do not get any jitters, but I am experiencing more energy. I am also able to stop eating after 8:30 p.m. Yesterday, I have noticed that my jeans are feeling a little bit looser. I try not to weigh myself everyday, only once a week at the same time. I will let everyone know how I am doing next week. So far, I feel great and am not experiencing any discomfort whatsoever.
Hope this helps, since I myself was skeptical at the beginning. Take care!
bigapple18
11-25-2008, 02:06 AM
I have lost 15 pounds in 4 weeks with phenocal and i have not experienced any side effects. I felt very energetic and which enhanced my workout performance. Thumbs are up for phenocal .
gaia3
07-08-2009, 01:22 PM
Has anyone else tried this? Did you reach your goal?