[joyfulloser]

WOW!!! This all sounds GREAT! Thanks to you both again for the info

Tzo - I actually LOVE EGGS! I used to eat them every morn (omlets, w/blt, etc.), but at around age 30, my body just slammed on the brakes and whenever I would smell or eat them I'd upchuck (sorry for TMI) I've tried over the years to eat them, but now my body just seems it will NOT TOLERATE eggs anymore

Lisa - I've done Atkins for years and never and I mean NEVER counted calories (one of the reasons I've always preferred low carb), and ate things like fried hot wings (by the 1/2 dozen or better), bbq spare ribs, deviled eggs (before my intolerance), cream cheese (full fat), etc. and loss massive amounts of weight (about 40 lbs to a size 6). I think it's clear to me that you can most definately eat more calories on true low carb. I say "true" low carb, cuz later on when I was working out (cardio) 5-6 days a week, I started adding banana & strawberry in my protein shake, and maybe an orange couple of times a week, and noticed that when I added the fruit, I didn't gain, but I didn't lose either.

Also, I noticed that when the ketostix was dark purple, I was losing the fastest (you can poll 100 people on that and get 100 different answers, but that was MY experience). When I truly cut out all carbs except for limited veggies, I didn't even have to watch my salt. I'm sure I ate massive amounts of salt and FAT! At one point I used to eat a slice of cheesecake everyday made w/sugar free jello and full fat creamcheese..it yes..it was OUTRAGEOUS!

I actually watched my ex-neighbors both lose over 100 lbs each, eating bacon, ham, summer sausage at all times of night. I would even eat right before bed. It's crazy!!!

Here's my take on low carb:

1) It does cause ketosis which allows for your body to utilize more of the fat you eat and excess fats;

2) It does maintain lean muscle because of the high protein content;

3) It also works to burn fat because of the high fat/high protein creates a "thermogenic" effect which can actually be felt during the night (which wake up actually sweating);

4) You can lose FAT very quickly provided you completely eliminate all sugars, including ALL fruit, starches, etc. and have no more than 30 grams of carbs daily. Also limit artificial sweeteners as they sometimes confuse the body into thinking it is REAL sugar when taken in excess;

5) You will lose long term energy - so I don't really think this is a good eating plan for certain people like RUNNERS, or if you are training for over 30 minutes and need endurance during your routine. I remember dying in my gym thinking it was just me! I eventually added the fruit to my shakes and did alot better...so you can modify the diet to get the most out of training.

Final conclusion...I still LOVE LOW-CARB..LOL!!! I think though...I've been with it for so many years...my body needed a break. Perhaps that is why I'm digging Bistro so much. I used to look at a sweet potato or rice with dread! I have to smack myself everyday and say..'wow...you are eating rice and still losing weight? huh? serious?

But like most things...I'm bound to get sick of this as I am TRULY A CARNIVORE...and must have my MEAT..NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM! Looking forward to hearing about you allz progress and hearing about the tantelizing entrees! Enjoy!

[Lisa1978]

I did a lot of research on Ketosis, and low carb plans before originally joining DTG. I know that you are not supposed to count calories, and that the diet is high in fat and calories, but I never felt good about this. I always felt that it was extremely unhealthy. It goes against everything I was always taught about health. I used it as a quick fix, but I began to feel awful on it. Like that food was weighing me down. I couldn't stick to only 30 carbs per day, and in fact DTG's carbs are much higher per day, so you definitely can't add any (and that was my problem with doing them long term). I need some chocolate every day. I just need to have it or I feel incredibly deprived. I can't stand the fake sugars. I can taste them, and they have a nasty after taste. I really feel that aspartame is pure poison for the body.

I am so bummed Tzoavva! I just noticed that week three is not serving their regular salmon fillets at all. It's the salmon salad, which I was never fond of. Darn't!!! Agggghhhhhhh! I was going to double up on that, and the sausage dinners (and week 4 does not have my oh so missed andouille sausage at all). Boy do I have all the luck! Well....I'll figure something else out, because week three and four have a lot of chicken otherwise. I just needed something for a week or two until I go back to Bistro. Shoot I wish I could eat week 5 or week 1 instead. Those are really good weeks with DTG. Back to the drawing board. I will probably just wing it for a bit. Not the best plan going, but I will just try to make stuff on my own, and eat light for a couple of weeks. Bistro should have some of their new foods soon. If they don't, I'll start with week 5 of DTG.

Happy Sunday everyone!

[tzoavva]

Lisa,

Sorry to hear you that week 3 doesn't have the items you were looking for. Have you considered other Food Delivery plans to try out for a week or two. There are two on my list to try possibly after I do a detox on DTG LC. Here is there names and links if you are interested:

Seattle Sutton (www.seattlesutton.com) no alterations to order
DineWise (www.dinewise.com) pricey $189.00 for Lunch and Dinner or Ala Cart

Or just stick it out for a week or two and go back to Bistro. I started yesterday..I had some items still in freezer from before so wanted to start out on Sun since I weigh in on Sat morning. Tomorrow I will pick up my fresh food items

Joyfull,
I was always charged everytime I did a substitution. I have about 2-3 a week because of dislikes.

Found this link on someone blogging their DTG journey (http://my-diettogo-journey.blogspot....y-journey.html)

[Lisa1978]

Thanks for that Tzoavva.

You know I think I am going through one of those phases where nothing looks good. Oddly enough, the one that appeals to me the most, as far as the food goes, is the Biggest Loser. If only it were run through Bistro or some other company.

The food looks amazing, but no way do I want get mixed up with them. What a shame. Still waiting on Bistro to get some new foods in. I looked at Seattle Sutton, and it just didn't grab me very much (but I truly appreciate the link and did have a look/see). I loved the quality and clean feel and taste of Bistro's offerings, but I still can't even look at what I have left in my freezer. The rotation was just non existent.

Right now I am in a holding pattern, and winging it. If Bistro does not have their new foods in by week 5 of DTG's plan, then I will definitely start with DTG for week 5. Week three was never a favorite of mine, and now I remember why. I had to double up on 3 foods to get through that week, so not a good starting week for me. I really may end up doing JC instead for a week or so (lots to think about). They have enough foods to get me through one or two weeks, but then it gets real old, real fast. They need to stop with all the soups, and add more entrees in. You can leave them and come back 5 years later and they still have the same foods with maybe a new soup or dessert here and there. They need to throw out their outdated business model, and revamp the foods. I used to hear that a lot on the JC boards, but they never listen and tell you to spice it up instead! To just add new spices to the same old food! The problem isn't GETTING the people in the door, its keeping them there and you can only do this with variety and willpower. We can provide the willpower, but they need to provide some decent variety in order for people to STAY on a program.

Anyway I hope you are doing well my friend. Have a great rest of the week!

[Lisa1978]

Oh and as for that fee, I must have been one of the lucky ones because I was the substitute queen, and never got charged! Not even once! That is so odd!

[joyfulloser]

Lisa - was thinking about your dilemma and thought I'd suggest something I'm thinking about trying in the future. Frozen foods right from your local grocer! I was at Walmart the other day (lovvve that place), and found that the freezer section was loaded with frozen entrees. Kashi is a good brand with about 18 gram of protein and 400-500 mgs of sodium and about 300 calories. Some of the lean cuisines looked good, Michaelangelo brands looked good, etc. The only problem is that they are a little low on protein and veggies. I was just thinking of adding my own veggies and supplementing with a meat/fish/poultry snack for extra protein. It'd sure be alot cheaper and IMO a good way to still monitor calories and maintain a certain level of convenience.

Just something to consider.

[tzoavva]

Lisa I know what you mean about Bistro food was good I have nothing bad to say other than I needed a bit of a change and needed to kick start my weight loss since it was buged. I know it is the stress in my life so it isn't to blame I am sure. I also did JC yearssssssss ago and the food was just yuk the shelf stable items. The frozen meals were good I can still taste some of the items to be honest. I should check to see what they look like now but I am sure they have not changed much.

Anyway I started DTG and since I was originally going to do ediets and yes the food lookssssssssss amazing not worth the risk right now. Maybe later with either prepaid Credit Cards (from supermarket something to think about) or my one time authorized credit card # I may do them once winter kicks in as well so delivery issues wont exist or I may just never do it cause of the uncertenties. Have not really seen it promoted on the biggest loser show but it could be that I am watching it on line and not live on TV becuase I work during the show.

Sooooooooo since this post says eDiets and I am now doing DTG I will create a new post there and talk about my progress with them in case someone is looking for info they may not find it stuck in here. So hope to see folks on that thread.