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Old 03-09-2007, 11:19 AM   #16
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Morning all! It is sunny and supposed to hit 60 degrees today! Now you just have to love that!

The scale is moving downwards and I have high hopes for tomorrow's W/I. I have journaled, stopped snacking, watched my sodium, really stuck to the points plan, and got in 10 miles worth of cardio... like I said, I have high hopes because it would really do my heart good to have an awesome number pop up on that scale!

Jen: Thanks for the kind words... we have to do it ourselves and I needed to really tell myself that to get re-motivated again. I had lost the spark after the holidays but it is back and I am ready to get to goal... I think I used the word "me" in the statement that you quoted from me and it should have been "I"... LOL, if it would not be for spell check I would be a mess... I just wish the grammer check worked better We leave on April 4th for Hawaii... we are very excited...

All: Have a great weekend!

I have to run but will pop back on again later on.
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:00 AM   #17
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Hello my friends

Susan, reading your posts makes me want to keep going. When are you leaving for Hawaii? Since I was a teenager Hawaii was always my dream. Maybe when we hit the lottery. Where can I find the Wendie Plan? Yesterday, they had an article about weightloss & reversing your meals. It said starting dinner for breakfast & breakfast for dinner is helping a lot of people in weightloss.

Jen, I have to do something. My weight is up there. I'm up to 207 my highest ever. I was tempted to join LA Weightloss but you have to buy their bars which could be very expensive. All in all, I know WW is the best.

My knee is better. I went to the ER & they gave me a shot to bring down the swelling & I'm on heavy duty anti-inflamatories.(sp) Well ladies don't forget to move your clocks forward tonight.

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It was so nice yesterday..sunny and in the 50's! Spring is on the way. We put some burgers on the grill; both of us have had a craving for them for some time now.

Es, glad your knee is co-operating. Was the shot cortisone? Those gave me relief. Did they give you therapy to do?

I have not been focusing on the scale, but, rather, on making good food choices and walking. Over the last 6 months my clothes have gotten tighter, my energy is zilch, and my knees have been achy. I'm not getting any younger and have to follow a healthy lifestyle. Perhaps if I don't live or die by the scale I will have more success..by going with how I feel. If I can measure any successes with looser clothes/more stamina, that will be a great feeling. We'll see. I have been successful in the last week when faced with many food temptations at work. Many of the builders/contractors bring in goodies as their way of saying thank you to our dept. Table full of pastries, pizza, etc! I've been staying away from it all.

HI Terri, Diane, Susan, Zoe, Sandy, Ruth

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Morning all!

Well I had a great W/I on Saturday, the best I have had for a long time! After recommiting and following the Wendie plan, stepping up my Cardio and everything else I was down 6.8 lbs on Saturday... you should have seen the gals face that did my W/I! She was so surprised that she almost feel off her chair! She asked me what I had done and I told her... it paid off and it was just what I needed. My total lost is 42.6 lbs... I have 28 more to go to hit my WW goal... but I will see how I feel once I get to that goal and figure out if I want to go further.

E's: The Wendie plan staggers your points per day... like I weigh in on Saturday morning so Saturday is a super high points day and then I stagger it from there, one low and one high. There is a formula that a gal named Wendie came up with when she lost a bunch of weight and then hit a wall... she figured it out to boost her metabolisim (sp?). It is located in the general WW forum I believe but will double check and let you know where to find it.

Jen: You are off to a great start! We fired up the grill on Sunday and it felt awesome to cook out.

I have to run but will check back later on.

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WOW Susan!!!!!! 6.8 WOOHOO I can see why the weigh-in girl almost fell off her chair. Do you use all your points allowance?

Jen, I guess one of the reasons why I like winter is because I can hide behind layers of clothes. I wish I had a grill. In the apartments we're not allowed. I see a lot of people have them anyway so maybe I'll get one when the weather gets warm.

My knee is still swollen. I'm scheduled for my MRI this Thursday.

My son got engaged. His fiance is very sweet. They haven't set a date yet but they want to get married in one year so I really have to get serious about losing weight. I can't do it on my own. I'm going to rejoin.

I had to take a few sick days. I'll check in later.

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Old 03-13-2007, 01:24 PM   #21
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Just stopping by for a fast check in.

E's: Yes, I always use all of my points... I love to eat using them all is never a problem for me... using to many is normally my issue. So sorry to hear that you are still having knee issues... I really hope they get that taken care of soon for you.

I have to run but will check back later on.
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Lots of celebrating here!
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Susan...congrats on the awesome loss ! The effort and commitment paid off. I'm thrilled for you!

Es... David's engaged!!!! How does Mom feel about that? If I remember correctly, you were happy with who he was dating? Details, girl!!!! Don't hold back. What an exciting time. And this will provide the boost you've been looking for. You'll be a beautiful mother of the groom!! Congratulations!

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Jen: Thanks! I was pretty happy also but I may pay for that big loss with a bit of a gain, not sure why but the scale is up again a couple of pounds... I have to skip this weekends W/I as we are doing a college visit with my DS but the following Saturday should be an interesting W/I.

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I had the injection in my back this moring...OMG it was so painful. Between the back & the knee I'm walking like a 90 year old lady.
Anyway, enough of the pitty party.

Jen, Dave's fiance is from Ecuador. He's 9 years older than her. No kids. Still lives at home with her parents & sister. I like her a lot. I always said as long he finds someone that makes him happy. The wedding date is April 12, 2008 Have to lose AT LEAST 30 lbs. It's going to be hard this time because I can't exercise. It's exciting. I'm starting Wendie's Plan this week.(Sat.)

Susan, you might be surprised your next weigh-in. Even if you have a tiny gain it won't be a big deal right?

What happened to our group?

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I had the injection in my back this moring...OMG it was so painful. Between the back & the knee I'm walking like a 90 year old lady.
Anyway, enough of the pitty party.

Jen, Dave's fiance is from Ecuador. He's 9 years older than her. No kids. Still lives at home with her parents & sister. I like her a lot. I always said as long he finds someone that makes him happy. The wedding date is April 12, 2008 Have to lose AT LEAST 30 lbs. It's going to be hard this time because I can't exercise. It's exciting. I'm starting Wendie's Plan this week.(Sat.)

Susan, you might be surprised your next weigh-in. Even if you have a tiny gain it won't be a big deal right?

What happened to our group?

Gotta go.

Luv, Es
Es, I've heard of Wendie's Plan before.. but I don't know what it is? Will you share? I have oh so many pounds to lose and I REALLY did bad today... I hate sunflower seeds.. so addicting! UGH! Type and spit.. type and spit.. sigh!!

I love WW, and was doing well for a bit and fell off the wagon. Here I go ahead to jump back on! lol
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Morning all,

It is rainy and cool here today, not like the sunny 70's and 80's we were enjoying for a couple of days... oh well, spring is coming and that is a wonderful thing.

I took a higher level Pilates class last night and loved it... I sure felt it this morning but nothing hurt too bad so it is all good... I will be signing up for that class once my other classes have ended, if not before.

Getting excited about my trip to Hawaii, less then three weeks to go.

E's: So sorry to hear about the painful shots, that just stinks in the worst way and I hope they get you up and around soon... Not sure what happened to everyone, I am still here and chugging along though with no plans to quit anytime soon

I have to run but will check back in later on and see what is going on.
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SD Gal, if you want we can start this together. I copied it for you.

What is the 'Wendie Plan'?

First of all, let it be known that the Wendie Plan is NOT something different than good old Weight Watchers. Most of the people who regularly visit here are following the WW plan. However, this does not mean that the Wendie Plan can not be easily adapted for people who are using Richard Simmons, and/or counting calories. I suppose even people following a plan such as Atkins could adapt this to their program, however I do not recommend it. The reason is simple. I do not recommend the Atkins program or any other low/no-carb program like that. Why? Because it is not (or SHOULD not) be a lifestyle change, and because it is very dangerous to your health. I cannot advocate any program that would put your health at risk.

The Wendie Plan is very simple. You follow a simple plan of eating. You eat your regular foods that you have on WW. You work within your point range. You drink the water, get some exercise, etc., etc., etc. What is different? You alternate the amount of points you use each day. What could be more simple?

Let us assume for a moment that your point range falls between 22-29 points per day. (This is based on the original 123 plan, not the "Winning Points" plan) WW says that you can eat up to 29 points every day, and still lose weight. Do you? Maybe. Maybe not. Ever notice that on some days you aren't very hungry and on other days you feel you could eat all the points in the universe? After doing extensive research, I have discovered several things that don't always ring true.

At this point, if you are someone who has been doing the program and losing a steady 2+ pounds per week, you don't have to read on any further. Your body is doing what it needs to for you to lose weight. If you are struggling to drop a pound, and no matter how hard you have tried the pounds won't shake loose? Read on...this is for you.

First of all, just because you eat within the points you have been assigned, drink all of your water, exercise at least 20 minutes every day, journal till the cows come home... does not mean that you will lose weight. I don't mean to depress you, but it is the truth. We have countless people here, myself included, who can attest to this. They try really hard, but week after week they are struggling to even lose part of a pound. I see it all the time. So... what are they doing wrong?

Oddly enough, they are doing one tiny little thing wrong. It is one tiny, insignificant thing, but it is keeping them from losing weight faster and at a steady rate. The secret to The Wendie Plan is simple. Alternate your points daily. At the start of your week, alternate the number of points you eat daily. Your rhythm of your week should look like this: low/high/low/very high/very low/high/med. high.

For example. If your range allows you to eat between 22-29 points per day:

Day 1 - 22 points
Day 2 - 28 points
Day 3 - 23 points
Day 4 - 36-39 points
Day 5 - 22 points
Day 6 - 29 points
Day 7 - 27 points

On the WW plan, 22-29 points per day, you will eat between 154 points (low end) 203 points (high end) during the course of the week. On the Wendie Plan, you will eat 190 points during the course of the week. Which falls towards the high end of the range, but not the highest. (Adjust the points to fit your current range).

We have already seen some amazing results using the Wendie Plan. I developed this plan out of sheer frustration. After being on WW for 17 months, and having lost no weight in the last 9 months of program, but being too stubborn to actually quit, I found myself pouring over 17 months of anally kept journals, trying to find the one key which would unlock my door to success. In the first 8 months I was successful. I lost 40 pounds. What happened then to impede my progress? I was still following the program in every way. I was doing everything right, but experiencing no weight loss. Why?

Why, indeed? The most interesting aspect of my journey came at the end of May, 2000. I weighed in on WW and had reached a 40 pound loss. I decided I was close enough to a 50 pound loss and I wanted to reach it by the 4th of July. That was a reachable goal. So I worked even harder. I dropped my points down to 25 per day, and began exercising more. Everyday I was outside walking through parks or in the fitness center hitting the treadmill. At the end of 5 weeks, I had a net gain of 1.2 pounds! Muscle? To some degree, yes. But, as I never began to look like Arnold Schwarztenager, I realized that something had gone terribly wrong. I had "shrunk" a bit, which was to be expected, but still, at the end of 5 weeks, I was heavier. I continued. I worked out everyday, and kept my points down. This has got to work, right? Not necessarily. At the end of the next 5 weeks, I was down exactly 1.2 pounds. So my net loss for the 10 weeks after Memorial Day was zero!

I continued to work very hard, and by September, I had played around with the same 3 pounds all summer. Up, down, up, down but never gone for good. In October, I celebrated 1 year of WW, by maintaining my 40 pound loss for four months! What was up with this?

I stopped attending WW meetings in October, because first, I was making no headway, and I became so depressed at Monday's weigh-ins that it took until Tuesday afternoon to snap back out of it; and second, I did not get the support I needed through WW. They simply had no answers as to why I was not losing weight even though I was working the program very conscientiously. At the last couple of weigh-ins, when I was going up a pound each week, I got the general impression that my leader felt that I was not really working the program. At that point, I walked out for good.

I tried several things between Halloween and Christmas to shake some pounds loose, but to no avail. I then went back to WW the day after Christmas. It is interesting to note what happened. First, I didn't start the program that first week. I weighed in on Tuesday, and then rather half-heartedly began the program on Friday. When I weighed in on Tuesday, I was down 3.5 pounds! I buckled down and worked very hard on program the next week. I measured everything, exercised, drank my water, and journaled every bite. The following Monday I weighed in and I had GAINED 2 pounds! What is up with that?

It didn't take very long for me to see that going to WW was not going to help me. My body was being incredibly stubborn and was not going to let me lose this weight. Do you see a pattern forming here?

In addition to having 17 months of journals, I also have kept a spreadsheet of my weight losses. I began pouring over my journals and comparing what I did on certain weeks to the amount of weight I lost at the end of that particular week. I made an astonishing discovery.

I have always been a moderate loser. Meaning, I usually lost about a pound a week. Other people may lose 3 pounds a week, but I usually lost a pound, sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I was very consistent in losing. There were some weeks, however, when I did lose more than a pound per week. Interestingly, the weeks I had my biggest losses were weeks when I overate! The weeks were Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years! Christmas Day I ate 43 points! I lost 4.75 pounds that week! Upon further studies, I discovered something else. Every week that I overate one day, I had larger than average losses! How can that be?

It has long been thought that you have use 3500 calories less than you need in order to lose one pound. I simply don't believe it. I know it is mathematical, and mathematics was never my strongest subject, but science has always been an area in which I have excelled. I believe that our bodies are far more complicated than a simple mathematical formula can describe. The body is like a fireplace. If you build a fire, at first it takes awhile to warm up. You add more fuel and it burns more efficiently. The more fuel you add to it, the hotter it burns. Add less fuel, and it begins to cool down.

Our bodies were built for survival. If you go on a "diet" the body can become uncomfortable. This is especially true if you take so much food away from it that it feels as if it is going to starve. There is a lot of talk about not eating too little. Your body will go into "starvation mode" and you won't lose any weight. Well, to a point, this is true. Your body will lose weight if you starve it, but it won't want to, and it will take the weight from places you don't necessarily want to lose it from. That is why some people who lose a lot of weight look "gaunt", and is far more likely to hear comments like "have you been sick"? as opposed to "You look good!"

Why does "The Wendie Plan" work?
Your body has this wonderful little thermostat inside of it. It regulates everything you do. If you feed it lots of food, it turns the thermostat up and burns it as efficiently as possible. This is why you have been able to eat as much fast food before WW and didn't gain the amount of weight that you should have. Your body became more efficient and was able to burn off much of the excess amount of calories. Otherwise, with the amount of food we porked in pre-WW, we should have been gaining 2-3 pounds per day!

When you go on a "diet" where you dramatically decrease the amount of calories that you consume, your body thinks "Oh-oh, we're going to starve to death here" and immediately turns the thermostat down to conserve energy. After all, your body will do whatever it has to do to ensure that you stay alive. It doesn't know that you don't want to carry those extra pounds around. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to convince my body that I really do want to shed those extra pounds through talking to it.

That is where The Wendie Plan comes in. If I can't get my body to shed the extra pounds by talking to it, then I have to trick it in to letting them go! The Wendie Plan is the trick.

If you are on WW, or even just counting calories, and you stick with a set amount of calories per day, such as 1400 or say, 27 points per day, your body will adjust to that. It will become extremely efficient at using just the amount of calories (energy) that you are giving it. You may lose fairly well at first, but after the first week or so, you will find that your losses may slow ... way... down, and even stop. Isn't it nice to have such an energy efficient body? However, the body isn't extremely fast. If you give it the same amount of food every day, it will adjust itself. But if you change the amount of food it gets every day, it doesn't have time to adjust itself! Which means on that day that you eat 10 points over your highest, it tries to adjust by turning up your thermostat, but it is unable to turn it down for the low points the next day. What you are doing, in essence, is keeping your body guessing. It doesn't have time to adjust the thermostat down, before it needs to turn it back up. What eventually happens is your body will never again feel as though it is going to starve to death, and it will never again try to shut down the thermostat, so you will continue to lose at a more rapid loss. This also means fewer plateaus.

Some people are aghast at the thought of actually eating 10 points over their maximum. I know, its the hardest part for me, too. Again, I just have to plan higher point meals for those days and make sure I actually follow through. If the huge point day isn't done, then the body will not turn the thermostat up high enough. It is all a formula which has to be adhered to high points, as well as low point days.

What about exercise points? What about them? I never use them. I just know that I don't plan any big exercise on my low points days. If I am going on an 8 mile hike, I will probably do it on my high or super-high day, so that I can take advantage of the extra fuel to get me through the exercise. I think WW was using the activity points as a carrot to get people to exercise. More activity, more food. I don't believe in that. Eat what your body needs. Exercise plays a good role in this plan, because exercising increases your metabolic rate. (Which turns up the thermostat even more!) So does increased muscle. Arrange your high point days on the days that you exercise. Or better yet, arrange your exercise around your high point days. My high point days usually fall mid-week. But why? It makes more sense to me to have my highest point day fall on Saturday. That is the most likely day that I will be doing an 8 mile hike. Fit this plan into your lifestyle.

My WW leader told us that it isn't what you do for one meal that causes you to gain or lose, it's what you do for 21 meals that makes a difference. What this is telling me is that I have 7 days, 21 meals, and 217 points to use. How I choose to use them over the course of a week is totally up to me. If I choose to have 42 points on Sunday and 24 points on Monday... I am still on program. Even better, I will probably lose some weight. Do not be afraid to have that one high point day. Just as you shouldn't be afraid to have the low point ones. At the end of the week, you will have lost weight.

Find your normal Weight Watcher POINTS TARGET and then view below it the modified Wendie Plan POINTS RANGE:

You should schedule your SHD (Sper High Day) as FAR away from your weigh in day as possible, due to the fact that you may notice a slight gain the day after your SHD (which WILL go away)

POINTS TARGET - 20 (Weigh Less than 150 lbs)
Day 1 - 20 points
Day 2 - 25 points
Day 3 - 21 points
Day 4 - 35 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 20 points
Day 6 - 24 points
Day 7 - 22 points

POINTS TARGET - 22 (Weigh 150 -174 lbs)
Day 1 - 22 points
Day 2 - 27 points
Day 3 - 23 points
Day 4 - 37 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 22 points
Day 6 - 26 points
Day 7 - 24 points

POINTS TARGET - 24 (Weigh 175 - 199 lbs)
Day 1 - 24 points
Day 2 - 29 points
Day 3 - 25 points
Day 4 - 39 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 24 points
Day 6 - 28 points
Day 7 - 26 points

POINTS TARGET - 26 (Weigh 200 - 224 lbs)
Day 1 - 26 points
Day 2 - 31 points
Day 3 - 27 points
Day 4 - 41 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 26 points
Day 6 - 30 points
Day 7 - 28 points

POINTS TARGET - 28 (Weigh 225 - 249 lbs)
Day 1 - 28 points
Day 2 - 33 points
Day 3 - 29 points
Day 4 - 43 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 28 points
Day 6 - 32 points
Day 7 - 30 points

POINTS TARGET - 30 (Weigh 250 - 274 lbs)
Day 1 - 30 points
Day 2 - 35 points
Day 3 - 31 points
Day 4 - 45 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 30 points
Day 6 - 34 points
Day 7 - 32 points

POINTS TARGET - 31 (Weigh 275 - 299 lbs)
Day 1 - 31 points
Day 2 - 36 points
Day 3 - 32 points
Day 4 - 46 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 31 points
Day 6 - 35 points
Day 7 - 33 points

POINTS TARGET - 32 (Weigh 300 - 324 lbs)
Day 1 - 32 points
Day 2 - 37 points
Day 3 - 33 points
Day 4 - 47 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 32 points
Day 6 - 36 points
Day 7 - 34 points

POINTS TARGET - 33 (Weigh 325 - 349 lbs)
Day 1 - 33 points
Day 2 - 38 points
Day 3 - 34 points
Day 4 - 48 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 33 points
Day 6 - 37 points
Day 7 - 35 points

POINTS TARGET - 34 (Weigh more than 350 lbs)
Day 1 - 34 points
Day 2 - 39 points
Day 3 - 35 points
Day 4 - 49 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 34 points
Day 6 - 38 points
Day 7 - 36 points

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A big thanks to E's for digging up the Wendie plan and posting it.

We are doing a college visit this weekend so I will be away for a day and half with my DS and DH to get that taken care of. Should be fun I just dread the drive, even though it is only 4 hours away I just hate the long drives anymore... never used to both me but it does more and more the older I get.

So what is everyone's plan for the weekend?

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Es and Susan,
good luck with the Wendie Plan. Every little bit helps, right? I've heard that many people are succesful with it.

My eyes are burning as I write this....Joe's in the kitchen making horseradish sauce out of the stuff he grows in the yard. It's sooooo hot! The fumes/oil permeate the house.

Tomorrow is our annual St. Patrick's Day Dinner. We're up to about 22 people. This is the first year I've changed it, from a sit-down dinner to a buffet. I hope everyone will be okay with that.
Years ago we began it on a very small scale: Joe, me, our 2 kids and my brother and his wife.
Now it's grown and become an over-nighter for some. We'll have about 10 people spending the night as well.

I love that it's become a tradition, everyone looks forward to it. We've farmed out some of the food. Joe and I cook the corned beef, and everyone else brings the rest of the meal. I can't complain about that!
We always have much more than we need, and I'm packing people up with bags to take home.
Scones, jello-shots, empanadas....we are truly a multi-generational, multi-cultural family, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

And on Sunday, Joe and I are vegging, watching movies. I'll cross-stitch, which is sooo relaxing....the perfect Sunday!

Hope everyone is doing well. Where are you all??? terri? dianne? sandy?? zoe??? ruthie??? I miss all of you.
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:33 AM   #30
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Hello my friends

I've had so many drs. appts. lately I had to start writing the dates in a planner. Never had to do that before. I have a dental appt this morning but I'm thinking on rescheduling. We got hit with a small snow storm & there's black ice everywhere.

Susan, good luck with your 4 hour drive. Be safe.

Jen, sounds like a fun weekend. It would be very hard for me to be around all that food. I love empanadas. I stuff them with ground turkey but David's fiance's family makes them different. They add vegetables & cheese. I tried one & it was so good.

Here I go with Day 1 of the Wendie plan. I'm going to weigh myself in a little while. I'll probably faint when I see how much I've gained.

Be back later.
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