hope it is ok to post when you doing really bad , today was a bad one for me do any of you go nuts like I did today? yesterday was so hard on WW for me must be that I am not doing it the right way. any way did ok I thought and later on at night time when I should of maybe made some pop corn, I did not do that I had a slice of cheese cake ,that I knew when I got it, it was a silly thing to do, any way, after I had that then I was ok and did not crave any more ,for the rest of the night. then to day got on the scale and yes I know that it is not good to go on it each day, but its hard to teach a old dog new tricks, of cause i was up,

so here I am today, thinking maybe I can not do WW. thought that I would make a good try and have a good breakfast meal so I would not be hungry,had eggs bacon and 1 WW bread, that was ok right?
then we went out shopping and we where going to go some where to eat. any way I was going to have WW meal there ,but it was not open yet, soooooooooooooo hungry by this time hubby said lets pick up a box of chicken, that's what we did , so ashamed to tell you this but I had 5 Pisces, and another slice of cheese cake , yes it did have a coating on the chicken, and it looked like it had a lot of fat there to. I am nuts, when I cooked my bacon and egg for breakfast today I cook my eggs in water so I would not have any fat. and I tried to take as much fat of the bacan to, then I go and do this. why ?
. well I will really give it my best tomorrow, I hope that I can, I do what to try .thanks Jackie o

First off weight loss is a learning game. Really it is. You need to find things that satisify you and that you enjoy. Part of the hunger is in your mind. You need to learn to find things that get your mind off the food, learn to follow a points pie, learn to follow the 8 Great Health Guidelines, and learn to do what you need to do to accomplish the task at hand --- weight loss. The other thing is you need to have 'heard the click.' It may be that you are just not mentally ready for the weight loss...it took me starting and stopping many, many times before I actually heard the 'click' that it took to make my weight loss efforts a reality.

Now having said that you also need to learn to forgive yourself and move on without being racked with guilt. I post this next portion almost on a weekly basis at the official W/W board to help....

Dieting Myth – Believe Setbacks are Fatal

Learning to accept setbacks as a part of being human will help you cause yourself less frustration on the road to success. Setbacks, when viewed as learning tools, actually help dieters achieve their final goals. Just about every person with a great body I’ve encountered experienced a glitch somewhere in their attempt to slim down. Those who succeeded were able to step back, analyze what went wrong, correct the problem(s), and then use it as part of their motivation.

“When I started the final program that became my success, I too pen in hand and listed all the times I had tried to lose weight in my life, and what happened that made me get off track. What I found was that it was the same situation playing itself over and over again.” Chandra, age 51, 58 pounds lost

SETBACKS

It can be a vacation, a weekend of partying, or a major life crisis. All setbacks and lapses prove is we’re human. It’s not fatal. Here’s how to get back on track.

1. Take immediate action. The sooner you start, the easier it will be. Don’t try to analyze it to death.
2. Make it a priority. For the next few days, monitor everything you at, and become proactive in your plan. After getting back on track, you can back to coasting.
3. Create a schedule that will not leave you much time for anything else. Write down your menu, take a class, or get your hair done. Get back to you.
4. Don’t do anything drastic. Don’t try to fast or go crazy with exercise. It’s a form of self-punishment which just won’t work.
5. Avoid temptations. Throw away that part food and liquor, and decline that invitation that may lead to further problems.
6. Don’t wear the bulkiest item you own. This just reinforces the negative feelings you have toward yourself.
7. Forgive yourself and get on with other important issues in your life not involving food.

I don't remember if you were one I posted the PointsPies and 8 Great Health Guidelines for before but here they are again...

8 Great Health Guidelines

For onlines here is how to get to them:

You may visit the Web site and read 8 Great Health Guidelines. After you log in, it can be found in the Select a Resource dropdown menu located in the Shortcuts toolbar on the left hand side of the page. Click on Weight Loss Topics of the Week in the My Plan section of the dropdown menu. On the next page you will see the View Topics Archive link in the box on the upper right side of the page. Click the link to be brought to the topics archive. 8 Great Health Guidelines is the first first link on the archive list.

For e-tools and meeting people it is page 34 in your Week 1 booklet.

Points Pies

Balanced (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 8-9 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 6-7 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 0-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

Higher Protein (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 5-6 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 9-11 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 0-1 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-4 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

Higher Carb (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 9-10 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 5-7 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 1-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 1-2 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

Balanced (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 11 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 10 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 3-4 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

Higher Protein (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 8 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 12 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 2-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 4-5 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

Higher Carb (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 13 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 8 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 2-4 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

Once you start doing this a lot of the 'hunger' will naturally be curbed....

So you picked up chicken...DH and I get KFC a lot. I just don't eat the skin...a breast without skin even fried/pressure cooked is about 3 points. You learn...remember the beginning of this post I started out about it being a learning process?

we all have days like that.....

thanks, I will keep at it for a time, but like all the other times if I gain more then 5 pounds, I will just go back to low carb, I am thank full to you andreaphilip3, for making me feel that I am not the only one with a big appetite,
I do have the will power thing, like I said I lost over 45 pounds with low carb and keep it off for over 7 years. so I do know about doing with out ,have done that for so long no sweets when others where all having them ,and that was not easy be live me I love sweets, the best pie in the world for me was pecan .which I gave up ,for me and maybe I am not eating stuff the right way but if I have any thing sweet, or with white flour, I just feel that I could eat lots of it and still feel hungry. this is where I have the hard time, I just what more, now if I don't have any .then I do ok, as for the fruit it is the same , sweets . be fore I went on low carb, some days I would just eat for a few days rice cakes. and water and I would never lose one pound,this weight thing I know is different for us all, and for me in my life the only thing that ever really worked was low carb, I love that I was not hungry, and I felt as long as I stayed away from the sweets and white flour. I was in control. that's a great feeling. I don't like it when I do stuff like eating so much food at one time, any way ,I will read the stuff and do the best that I can that is all one can do, I always Said for the last 7 years that I had a tool, which for me worked. that was low carb way of life, and if WW is not doing it for me I can always go back, but I would love to see WW work for me to, I love that you can have more sweets in your life. and pasta, stuff that I do miss. thanks for your time Jackie o

Jackie maybe do the core. I am the same way. I am currently doing sb. I was a ww person for years, but it really did not jwork. When I did the core I saw results. It is similar to sb. Just seems to have no trigger foods. I will eventually go back to it. Good luck you will succeed.

Just some food for thought...jumping back and forth between different diet programs does nothing except really mess up your body.

It really isn't WILLPOWER that I was speaking of. It is the right mindset. Willpower can be done but if you are truly ready to lose and keep it off by MAKING IT A LIFESTYLE change then that is different. It is normal for someone to have 'simple' carbs to want something else but it is not about deprivation it is about learning to have it with foods that keep you satisified.

That was because your body thought it was starving and lowered the metabolism down so it wouldn't ahve to turn to eating itself to sustain life.

Like someone else suggested try doing Core or do what I do and combine the the 2...I need the portion control of Flex but to keep me satisified I eat from basically the Core list with a few sweets once in a while.

20 lashes with a wet noodle to your hubby for suggesting the bucket of chicken. Someone needs to sit him down and explain how to be supportive to a partner on a weight loss program. For shame.

Word.

You need to get him on board, support is a big help on this journey. This is the first time I've ever told my dh about me being on ww. In the past I've tried to do it on my own and have failed. This time he knows, and is supportive because he knows it's what I want

Having said all that, there will always be down days. I will admit my big bad secret. Yesterday...I had Mcdonalds. First time in 6 months. I loved it, or so I thought. I was not loving it later but that's a whole other issue. In any case, I will forgive myself for a minor slip up and move on to today. I can't change yesterday but I can do better now

well I had better tell you all .that I am very lucky with the man in my life, we have been married over 40 years , he is always there for me in what ever I do, he has been eating low carb for over 7 years, and he never com planes. I could have never struck with it if, it was not for him doing it with me,

with WW and please don't think that I am saying any thing bad about WW I truly am not, I would love with all my heart for it to work for me and my dh. but it is the hunger that I feel on WW that makes me go off, the plan, I know that I am not really in to understanding it all yet, and I don't know about all the foods with low fat and I will try to lean about it all in time, I know that it has worked for so many .I do hope that I will become one of them,
hope that you all have nice valentines day. so far to day I have done ok, dh and I are going out for supper so I will do the best I can with the food, that's all any one can do is try there best right? jackie o .

You are right it does take time to learn but low fat foods are all the key. It is a balance that includes dairy (2-3 servings), healthy fats (2 tsp a day), complex carbs and limiting the simple ones (you know whole grains over white, sugar, alcohol) and getting enough protein.

yes trying your best is good but PLANNING, PLANNING, PLANNING will be even better. If you know where you are going in advance look their menu up, plan what you are going to have, don't open the menu when you get there, just order.