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Originally Posted by Mel
OK, but you are training vastly differently and with different goals than most people here. The rep/set schema you use is designed for maximum strength gains, not necessarily maximum muscle growth or endurance which are also conflicting goals. As you said, it is based on the success of Olympic power lifters. How long do you rest between sets?
I train chest that way when I'm prepping for a bench pressing contest. It is very effective for strength gains.
Most of the people posting on this board are lifting to gain muscle, burn fat, general fitness and aren't doing olympic lifts. I don't think that's the optimum training plan for that goal. But that's why this sport is so wonderful...whatever your goals are, there is a way to personalize and design a plan to meet them.
I'm not sure I agree with you though, that doing 95% of 1 rep max sets is any less taxing or less likely to lead to overtraining. Depending on the lift, that still heavy and the reason my hands constantly ache, I have tendonitis in both elbows and am currently taking an extended vacation from bench pressing!
Mel
I rest for as long as i think i need to to recover from the previous sets. When I am training at 95%1RM that is close to 5 min.
Yes, this is aimed at gaining strength. I am currently dieting severely enough (1,500 Cal/day), that I can't really expect to gain size, but I want to hang onto as much muscle as I can AND make some strength gains. My end of year strength goal is a bodyweight overheadpress, which is going to take some combination of strength-gain and weight-loss totaling about 60#.
There certainly is a big difference in the intensity experienced doing sets of 10-12 to failure versus 2-3 to failure. I just wanted to point out that you really don't have to train to failure to make good strength gains, and that you might actually progress farther without failure. My wife has experienced a dramatic improvement in her bone density and overall muscle tone from training with dumbells and machines at a very modest intensity level. She hasn't gained all that much strength, but the health benefits have been considerable.
IMHO, the best way to get started in bodybuilding is to build up a considerable base of strength before focusing on size and shape. It has sort of worked out for me that i started lifting a few years ago, without really dieting, and I dropped 30# of weight while putting on quite a bit of muscle. Now I am focusing on getting my bodyfat levels down while holding onto the muscle. It is pretty much impossible to add muscle AND lose fat at the same time.
One basic strength goal Stuart McRobert's recommends aiming for is working up to a RAW Class II Powerlift total in the "Big Three" (Squat, Deadlift and Bench); for a 198# man this would be 1200# or a 400# squat, 300# bench, and 500# Deadlift. For a 132# woman this would be a 600# total for the three lifts. Only after that strength goal is achieved through focusing on building strength on basic exercises does McRoberts' recommend focusing on refining the physique.
After I get my weight down I plan on working on a higher volume/lower intensity approach to try to make some size gains.
What are you doing instead of benching? I am currently doing OHP 3xweek, Incline press 1xweek and the pec-deck 1xweek, but not benching. I lack the recovery ability to really push the bench and OHP while dieting this severely.