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cbmare 10-27-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by citizenoftheworld (Post 4087270)
I had my post-op visit yesterday and all was well. I also had my first (and hopefully last) bout of reflux/vomiting that lasted almost two hours. Sorry to disgust, but this is my first experience of reflux ever. Most likely my own fault for eating too much to quickly. It was horrible. I was at the clinic for most of the afternoon and should have planned ahead by bringing something small. I will start carrying a granola bar or something for such occasions.

I am going to try to eat more frequent smaller meals which will require more planning on my part. So today, I have had coffee and yogurt for breakfast, and at noon today I ate half a frozen meal and some green beans and am still full at 4 p.m. I don't know yet how I will get 1500 calories a day in. Luckily for me, I have plenty of fat reserves, LOL!

All part of the learning process, I guess.

Yuck! I've never had reflux and I don't think I want to experience it. I absolute detest upchucking. 1500 cals? Have a couple of glasses of wine.

Bargoo, thanks. I'm interested in these things as well.

cbmare 10-28-2011 01:04 PM

As expected, I got turned down. It all surrounds around the fact that I can no longer walk for 15 minutes. That is not due to my weight. It is strictly due to the fact that I have A Fib because of those blasted (the word I wanted to use starts with a "d") Icy Hot Patches.

I did tell her about how I learned what I did. You may have someone named Joan in here following you. She's the coordinator for the Stanford study.

Did you know that the people in the previous study have to wear the belt 9 hrs per day? It charges when they sleep. You are lucky in that you only wear it for a half hour a couple of times per week.

I will be here cheering you on. I will be with you in spirit and if you need a cyber hand to hold at any time, grab mine.

Pittypat 10-29-2011 01:29 PM

Wow! So glad I found this forum. I'm heading down to the University of Minnesota mid November for my Vbloc screening. I think I'm a pretty good candidate, my BMI where they want it to be, and I'm perfectly healthy, just fat! I can't believe the amount of trips they want us to make there. I don't live in the metro area, and it's going to be 7,500 miles total on my car for all the trips there and back. And the Northstar line doesn't connect to the U yet. So, we'll see.

My biggest concern is that with the other device they tested, the results of the active device was no different than the inactive device. Going to have to do lots of 'splaining to convince me that this one is different. Darn it, I understand how to read statistics! lol.

citizenoftheworld 10-29-2011 05:06 PM

Thought I would follow up now that I am ten days post-implant. I am slowly trying to figure out what and how to eat so as not to suffer GERD. It seems to be helpful to chew everything to mush and eat very slowly. So far apples don't seem to sit well, nor does eating quickly. I must be a food inhaler so I am doing my best to slow it down.

I am on a 1600 calorie goal and so far haven't come close to eating that many calories a day. Just not that hungry. Study staff would like me to drink 64 oz a day and that seems a task as well. In order to get all my calories in, I am going to have to pace myself and eat every couple of hours. I will ask at my next appointment if I should eat the 1600 calories or eat as my hunger dictates, which to date, would be less.

So far the biggest annoyance is the discomfort I have in sleeping. I just can't seem to find the position that doesn't hurt. Back sleeping isn't my thing. Sometimes I find myself a bit sore in the morning.

I know for some of you the trip back and forth to the study site will be an inconvenience. For me, it is walking distance from work, about a mile.

Hope all of you are doing well and what works best for you!

Cheers,
Citizen

citizenoftheworld 10-30-2011 06:34 AM

Veronica,
All great questions. I never had GERD before. Slowly, I am finding that I need to eat smaller, more frequent meals...and chew, chew, chew! I too was a voracious water drinker, but it feels like my stomach is too full much of the time to take in much liquid. This just has to be a learning process. A typical meal for me is 1/2 a frozn Weight Watchers or Lean Cuisine meal and half a bag of frozen vegetables. That seems to go fine if I don't drink with the meal and really take the time to chew the food to absolute mush. I aim for 20 to 30 chews. Breakfast is either yogurt or a pouch of oatmeal. In between I will try for some small snacks of crackers with a bit of cheese. Frozen snacks go down well, usually fruit bars or low fat ice cream.

The post op visit was close to two hours. The usual vitals and weigh in with setting up the charging device and instruction on that and about a half an hour with the dietician. Thereafter, I would plan on an hour.

As for Thanksgiving, I would not have been up for it one day after surgery. I spent a night in the hospital and really layed around for the next three days without much else. General anesthesia takes its toll on the body. Plus I felt sorta out of it with the device feeling like a small person sitting on top of my stomach! That feeling has subsided, but in any event it is major surgery. One of the incisions is several inches long. And I was tired!

I went back to work exactly one week after the surgery. I am in a professional position with fairly flexible hours and my work is very sedentary. That being said, there were a few afternoons where I could have put my head down on the desk and gone back to sleep. Yesterday, 10 days post op I was able to get a couple of shopping hours in at MOA, so slowly my stamina is coming back. Today I plan to get out and walk for a half an hour or so.

Best of luck to you as you approach your surgery date. Hopefully our paths will cross soon.

citizen

chubbyhubby 10-31-2011 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by citizenoftheworld (Post 4089301)
Thought I would follow up now that I am ten days post-implant. I am slowly trying to figure out what and how to eat so as not to suffer GERD. It seems to be helpful to chew everything to mush and eat very slowly. So far apples don't seem to sit well, nor does eating quickly. I must be a food inhaler so I am doing my best to slow it down.

I am on a 1600 calorie goal and so far haven't come close to eating that many calories a day. Just not that hungry. Study staff would like me to drink 64 oz a day and that seems a task as well. In order to get all my calories in, I am going to have to pace myself and eat every couple of hours. I will ask at my next appointment if I should eat the 1600 calories or eat as my hunger dictates, which to date, would be less.

So far the biggest annoyance is the discomfort I have in sleeping. I just can't seem to find the position that doesn't hurt. Back sleeping isn't my thing. Sometimes I find myself a bit sore in the morning.

I know for some of you the trip back and forth to the study site will be an inconvenience. For me, it is walking distance from work, about a mile.

Hope all of you are doing well and what works best for you!

Cheers,
Citizen

yeah, finding a comfortable sleeping position post op is pretty tough. I've always been a stomach and side sleeper, but have somehow managed to sleep on my back the last couple of weeks.

chubbyhubby 10-31-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Blossom (Post 4089473)
Citizen,

Thanks for the update. How did your first post op visit go? Did it take long? Did you have GERD or reflux before the implant? I don't think it would be too hard for me to drink 64 oz a day, since I fill a 24 oz water bottle and drain it several times a day at work. How was your first day after the implant? I am trying to decide if I can handle going to Thanksgiving with my family the day after my surgery.

Thanks for putting up with my questions,

Veronica

wow, strange that they would really schedule anyone for this the day before Thanksgiving. I didn't have a whole lot of pain the following day, but not very comfortable moving around. I stayed in bed most of the day. No way would I have been in the mood for entertaining family. Good luck!

chubbyhubby 11-04-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorislosinit (Post 4095750)
Hi everyone! Thank you to chubbyhubby (my favorite Ben&Jerry's flavor!) and citizen for the thorough information on what to expect during and after the surgery. I appreciate everyone's questions, comments and support of one another .... what a positive place.

Well, I made it through all the hoops and got my surgery date (11/15). I meet with the surgeon on Monday, so I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say. I am in Portland, Oregon. I heard there have been about 5 or so devices implanted so far here, and they all went well.

For those in the early stages of the process, I have to tell you that it took what seemed like a long time (45 days or so) to get the ball actually rolling. But, once things started to move, it went fast. Within a 2.5 week span of time, I had my meeting with the doctor and medical team, the barium swallow and the psych evaluation (apparently, I am just **slightly** crazy).

I am appropriately nervous and excited. I am not expecting a miracle, but I am really hoping for a really good tool. I am 265# and tired of being tired.

Looking forward to hearing everyone's experiences. Good luck!
Lori

Hi Lori,

Welcome to the club! Yeah, once things start going, they go really quickly. Glad to hear our limited experience gave you some help. I think I'm in the same boat as you as far as the **slightly crazy** club :)
Let us know how it goes

chubbyhubby 11-04-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cbmare (Post 4088186)
As expected, I got turned down. It all surrounds around the fact that I can no longer walk for 15 minutes. That is not due to my weight. It is strictly due to the fact that I have A Fib because of those blasted (the word I wanted to use starts with a "d") Icy Hot Patches.

I did tell her about how I learned what I did. You may have someone named Joan in here following you. She's the coordinator for the Stanford study.

Did you know that the people in the previous study have to wear the belt 9 hrs per day? It charges when they sleep. You are lucky in that you only wear it for a half hour a couple of times per week.

I will be here cheering you on. I will be with you in spirit and if you need a cyber hand to hold at any time, grab mine.

sorry to hear you were turned down mare. I hope you can find another solution that works for you! Let us know how things go.

jiffypop 11-04-2011 01:44 PM

Hi Folks!!

Let me put on my 'moderator' hat to ask you a couple of Qs.

First of all - we're glad you're here - and this won't be a post about where you should be posting and what you should be saying.

Nope. but please let me know a couple of things -

would you like this stickied at the top of the page? as of now, because you're all posting regularly, the thread stays on the top of the list. And that's fine with me, with you, and with everyone. But, if you think you'd like it to be stickied at the top of the page, just let me know.

and the other thing is - there's a 500-post limit for individual threads, so we're going to have to discuss at some point how long you want the threads to be. Remember - longer threads are much harder for anyone - especially newbies - to navigate.

My suggestion - and I'm open to others - is to let this thread run for oh, about 8-10 pages, then close it and start a new one. OR you can start a new thread every month, or even every week.

Just let me know what you'd like, and we'll make it happen!

OK. moderator's hat is off. thanks!

chubbyhubby 11-05-2011 07:40 PM

I'm good with a sticky. I think 20-25 pages is easy to digest (sorry for the pun)

thanks!

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Originally Posted by jiffypop (Post 4096487)
Hi Folks!!

Let me put on my 'moderator' hat to ask you a couple of Qs.

First of all - we're glad you're here - and this won't be a post about where you should be posting and what you should be saying.

Nope. but please let me know a couple of things -

would you like this stickied at the top of the page? as of now, because you're all posting regularly, the thread stays on the top of the list. And that's fine with me, with you, and with everyone. But, if you think you'd like it to be stickied at the top of the page, just let me know.

and the other thing is - there's a 500-post limit for individual threads, so we're going to have to discuss at some point how long you want the threads to be. Remember - longer threads are much harder for anyone - especially newbies - to navigate.

My suggestion - and I'm open to others - is to let this thread run for oh, about 8-10 pages, then close it and start a new one. OR you can start a new thread every month, or even every week.

Just let me know what you'd like, and we'll make it happen!

OK. moderator's hat is off. thanks!


chubbyhubby 11-06-2011 03:37 PM

Hey everyone. How's everything with you guys? Things are going well with my vbloc therapy. I see some gradual weight loss. about 6-8 lbs. it varies all the time, but I'm happy with the results. I have noticed that I don't feel hungry much like I used to and that's a good thing, and I seem to feel full after a much smaller amount of food. I'm a little more active too. I went for a 4 mile walk today for the first time and feel great.

citizen, how are you doing with yours? keep us up to date so we can compare.

Veronica and Lori, getting closer for you huh? Getting anxious?

citizenoftheworld 11-08-2011 09:12 PM

Hello Dear Friends,

I find that things are settling down a bit. Eating too quickly and not chewing enough continue to be problematic for me. I find I must really attend to eating and paying attention to chewing. Digestion begins in the mouth after all!

So far I have lost eight pounds which is pretty good. I try to get out and walk a few times a weeks, but find I must set goals for myself or it doesn't happen.

Sleep is a bit better, but still find myself in a bit of pain when rolling over or moving "funny". That seems to be from the actual device rather than the pain of healing from the incision site. Do you find that to be true as well Chubbyhubby?

I too find myself eating smaller meals and being fairly satisfied after a meal. All in all, things are going well.

Take care dear friends.

cbmare 11-10-2011 02:31 PM

I'm so happy for all of you.

I'm glad I started this thread, however, IA it should be changed. It certainly could be a sticky at the top. It is up to you. This is now your thread. Also, you can do a monthly one much like those in the exercise section.

I wish you all well. Wish I could have been 1 of you.

chubbyhubby 11-12-2011 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorislosinit (Post 4101455)
Chubbyhubby -- Thanks for your blog update as well. You are a great writer! I tried to post a comment on the blog, but I couldn't (quickly) figure out how to log in. Thanks for the advice on the iphone app. I've been using Lose It, but I'll upload yours and give it a try.
Have a good evening.

Thanks Lori. Sorry, I had it locked down to keep the spammers away, but I guess I over did it. It's fixed now, please feel free to leave a comment whenever you like!

Let us know how the surgery went and what your experiences were like.

Best of luck!

cbmare 11-15-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Blossom (Post 4108085)
Hi everyone. I had my last preop meeting at the hospital today and am ready for surgery on Nov. 30. This will be my last post on this subject tho, and I will not be setting up my blog like I had planned. My nurse informed me today that we are not allowed to blog or write about this stuff because it could jeopardize FDA approval. Enteromedics takes this risk seriously and will kick us out of the study if they find we are blogging. They said the FDA could say the study is skewed if we share too much information at this stage of the study. I want to thank those who have shared, because the information has been valuable to me. But chubbyhubby and others, I would recommend thinking about taking your blog down or at least modifying it so you are not revealing anything that could be suspect for skewing the results.

Thanks again eveyone, and I still plan to meet up with citizen at some point if possible.

Veronica

That is quite interesting. It makes sense. When I went to my meeting and mentioned this thread (didn't say where it was to the entire group) nothing was mentioned about not doing it. Perhaps the others can shed some light as well.

I really hope they don't squelch all conversations for 5 years!

Good luck to all of you.

cbmare 11-15-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Blossom (Post 4109498)
I agree that it would be a shame if nothing could be said for five years. But I think the information I received is credible - I am in Minneapolis; and so is Enteromedics. I was told we are not even supposed to talk amongst ourselves about whether or not we have active or dormant devices. I have made a personal decision to do my best on this because I want VBLOC to be successful. But I am keeping a journal for my own records of this whole process.

Veronica

I completely and totally understand. I was so looking forward to hearing about our results. You could always come back in and say that you live in Eastern Armpit Mongolia and your name is whatever you want and tell us. LOL.

Lorislosinit 11-19-2011 03:40 PM

Well, surgery was Tuesday and it went well. 9:00 check in. 10:30 surgery. Out of surgery by 12:00, home by 3:30. Not too bad! I've been sore, but no more than I would have expected. Day 2 and 3 were the roughest, but I was able to be by myself, no problem. Today, just tired and sore. I'll be able to work on Monday.

I have a 3" incision under my right rib cage and 3 very small incisions around my belly. All incisions were closed with the glue (which is kind of itchy now).

I have my follow up appointment to get the hardware and meet the nutritionists on Tuesday. I asked the surgeon about updating on the boards, and he said he didn't know anything about it. I'll check with the program director on Tuesday.

Happy weekend!

cbmare 11-19-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Blossom (Post 4113656)
Glad to hear it went well. So you went home the same day; I sure hope I can do that. I was told in the informational meetings that we would need to stay overnight. Thanks for checking up on updating on the boards and forums. Hopefully we can do that as long as we don't speculate about who has an active device and who has a dormant one.

Veronica

It is my understanding that you won't know which you have.

We were told that most people go home same day. I guess it has to do with each person.

cbmare 11-19-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorislosinit (Post 4113645)
I have my follow up appointment to get the hardware and meet the nutritionists on Tuesday. I asked the surgeon about updating on the boards, and he said he didn't know anything about it. I'll check with the program director on Tuesday.

Happy weekend!

What do you mean "get the hardware"? I thought that was what they did during the surgery.

Pittypat 11-22-2011 09:20 PM

Well, I'm scheduled for my surgery in December. I'm more than a little freaked out right now. Those of you with the VBloc devices, how is it going? It's really hard to find anything about this on the web, and anything I find is NOT positive. Not really sure if I want to do this or not.

pdxloser71 11-22-2011 10:59 PM

Lorislosinit I'm also in the Portland study (or will be I think) and would love to talk with you. Let me know if you are interested in emailing.

pdxloser71 11-29-2011 11:44 PM

Lori, it says that you have no contact information listed. Can you check out my profile and see if you can view my email information and email me? Thanks!

pdxloser71 11-30-2011 12:02 AM

Ugh! I don't think you can see my contact information, Lori. I have emailed them to see how to make it visible.

In the meantime, I would like to hear an update from you on how you are doing. What can I expect the week after surgery? Tell me if you can feel/see the device and does it hurt? How is your hunger and do you have any side effects?

Sorry for all of the questions, but I am getting nervous. My surgery is on December 15th!

chubbyhubby 11-30-2011 01:15 PM

Hi guys,

sorry, haven't posted much lately. I took my blog down since all of you were being told that it was a big no-no. I don't want to jeopardize my study.

pdxloser71, welcome. No need to freak out :) I've had mine for about 6 weeks now and things are going just fine. No issues whatsoever. I can feel my device, actually can see it, it sticks out on me a bit on the side which seems to be more common for men than women since we store our fat differently. I was told it's not so visible for women. the first month or so, I could feel it kind of moving around in there, not so firmly in place yet, so when I drove and hit bumps, it kind of jiggled around and felt weird. I actually went and purchased an abdominal binder and wore it for a few weeks and it felt much better.
Now, it's much better, I walk, jog, etc with no issues.

I had to go to traffic court recently and had to go through the metal detector. I told them before I went through that I would probably set it off and gave them my card. Sure enough, I set it off. They just walked me through and took me aside and checked me manually. No biggie, but it was interesting.

Again, don't freak out, it's pretty straight forward and not that big of a deal. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask!

pdxloser71 11-30-2011 11:59 PM

Great information, chubbyhubby, thanks! Are you having any issues with nausea or GERD? Are you able to sleep on your left side and stomach? Also, how is your weight loss going?

chubbyhubby 12-01-2011 12:07 AM

no issues at all with nausea or GERD at all. Sleeping on my side was impossible the first couple of weeks, but not an issue anymore. Weight loss is slow but steady (aside from Thanksgiving :0 ). Wish it was more dramatic, but I'm going in the right direction.

chubbyhubby 12-02-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Blossom (Post 4125403)
By the way, do you think the metal detector at court turned your device off? I seem to remember the study docs mentioning that the device could get turned off that way and you would need the clinic to reset it.

Veronica

Hmmm. Interesting. I don't remember hearing this. It's very possible. I should look into this. Thanks for the info

Lorislosinit 12-02-2011 05:30 PM

Well-- our director confirmed Veronica's posts. No posting, no blogging, no discussing, no social networking .... Until after 12 months.

Good luck all!! Take care and be well!

mngal 12-03-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by citizenoftheworld (Post 4082252)
Veronica, I had my surgery at the U of MN too. Hope all goes well for you. A few things I didn't know before surgery -- clear liquid diet 3 days after the procedure and then soft foods like cream of wheat and yogurt until the post op visit.

I feel fairly confident that I have an "activated" device as I feel uncomfortably full most all of the time. I hope that goes away because it makes me feel lethargic.

Hopefully we will bump into each other someday at one of the later group meetings. Best of luck and keep us posted.

I am going to the U of M for surgery Dec 14th, any advice

Veronica Blossom 12-04-2011 07:47 PM

I cannot discuss the study due to study protocol, but I can tell you about my experience at Fairview at the U of M. It basically went quite well and both my roomie and I felt pretty good by the day after surgery. I did have severe shoulder and neck pain which I was told could happen. It has something to do with anesthesia gases.

Veronica

Surgery date: Nov. 30, 2011
Starting Weight 239.7
Today's Weight 237.2

Veronica Blossom 12-13-2011 09:58 PM

Today's weight 230.0

mngal 12-13-2011 11:41 PM

Tomorrow morning is the big day

Veronica Blossom 12-14-2011 10:30 PM

I know you were getting the surgery today. I was in the basement at the clinic for my checkup and thinking of you upstairs in the hospital. I would have stopped upstairs if I knew your name, but really who wants a stranger seeing them in the hospital anyways. I hope you are doing well, and just know you may feel terrible now, but you will be much better in a few days. My surgery was on a Wednesday; released on Thursday; went to work all day on Friday. Not recommended - and I took no pain meds while at work - but I survived it fine.

Best Wishes,

Veronica

pdxloser71 12-16-2011 02:58 PM

Had my surgery yesterday. everything went smoothly. I'm sore today, but doing fine if I keep up with the pain meds. I hope you others that had your procedure yesterday are doing well! Hang in there!

mngal 12-16-2011 07:47 PM

Veronica,

Thanks for your reply. It turns out I had a hiatal hernia that needed to be repaired as well so I am very sore and very tired. I am not sure how you skipped the pain meds because going six hours for me is bad. I am incredibly black and blue today. Follow up on Monday due to the holidays being next week.

Veronica Blossom 12-17-2011 11:36 AM

Glad to hear your hernia got repaired. My mom has one and I recently talked her into getting it repaired, but hers has gotten so big that it is currently inoperable due to the need for surgical mesh. They said I have a very small one but I don't know if they fixed it or not - probably so. I can imagine you are tired and sore from getting that additional bit of surgery done. My boyfriend drove me to work on the Friday after surgery and picked me up. I was poppin pain pills in the driveway as we left my office Friday afternoon; the soreness caught up with me and I was really tired (I am no superwoman). My surgery was at the end of November and I still have one bruise. When they gave me the anti-clotting shot in my abdomen, the nurse did a bad job of it and I still have an ugly bruise in that spot.

Just don't push yourself too hard. I hope you have plenty of help and support at home; I think that is what made things so much easier for me. Glad to hear you came through it all well. Isn't this exciting, a new phase of life learning to eat like a 'normal person'. I want to break my food addiction so bad and I know this tool (like any other) is not the solution for every person. But I am hoping I have finally found the one that works for me.

Best of luck to you,

Veronica

Today 228 - woo!!

pdxloser71 12-19-2011 01:33 PM

Veronica: Did the pressure on your side from the weight of the device become less noticable? I feel like my abdomen is distended and tight, which is probably from the surgery, but with the added pressure of the device on my side, I'm feeling pretty miserable and can't get comfortable. Also, I'm curious about the anti-clotting shot they gave you. How did they determine that you needed that? I've been having pain in my left breast and it crossed my mind that I should be aware of the risk of clots.

Veronica Blossom 12-20-2011 12:56 AM

The pressure will ease up, but it will still probably take 2 weeks before you can get comfortable. I think everyone got the anti-clotting shot. I believe I know one reason why you might be having pain in your left breast but I could be wrong (not dangerous). But I don't think I can say why (protocol). Write down when you have the pains, you might see a pattern. I think if it continues you should tell the nurse at the clinic to make sure it isn't something they need to check on.

Veronica

mngal 12-27-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pdxloser71 (Post 4142033)
Veronica: Did the pressure on your side from the weight of the device become less noticable? I feel like my abdomen is distended and tight, which is probably from the surgery, but with the added pressure of the device on my side, I'm feeling pretty miserable and can't get comfortable. Also, I'm curious about the anti-clotting shot they gave you. How did they determine that you needed that? I've been having pain in my left breast and it crossed my mind that I should be aware of the risk of clots.

I am suffering from the same thing, especially at night and I am soooo itchy


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