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Leenie 10-15-2009 10:40 AM

GET FAILURE OUT OF YOUR MIND !!! NOW !!!!

Don't set yourself up sweetie.... trust me :hug:

Your body needs time to adjust and so does your brain... you WILL SUCCEED :D

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ladybugnessa 10-15-2009 10:53 AM

but haven't others lost way more than I have by this time? I know not to compare but come on I feel like i've lost nothing (sorry but ten pounds is NOTHING)...

sindurella 10-15-2009 10:59 AM

Oh dont feel bad. My doc told me I won't be losing this week probably because all of the fluids from surgery are finally gone.
I am not getting in all the liquid either. I am just getting about 40 oz a day and trying to get in protein and eat.
Don't give up ... it will come. We are still adjusting.. and when You do lose it will probably a big old drop quickly.
But do try to get moving more. It will help so much more.

Shannon in ATL 10-15-2009 11:00 AM

I'm no expert, but I think everyone is different. I know two people who had WLS - one lost a lot of weight right away, then slowed to a much slower but more even pace. The other didn't lose much at all for the first two-three months and then lost at a very rapid pace, sometimes so fast it scared us a little. I would bet that there are some old threads on here about just that topic. :hug:

kaplods 10-15-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ladybugnessa (Post 2971606)
"yells" is my term. I don't think he's ever raised his voice in his life. but he will be disappointed if I don't show a decent loss on the 28th I'm sure.

Even a silent look of disappointment from a doctor can be so crushing. I've avoided doctor's appointments in the past to avoid disappointing my doctor - I would almost feel as if I was letting HIM down.

My current doctor is great - often when I'm disappointed in myself, he will cheer me up - telling me to remember how difficult change is, how few people accomplish it, and how every small change does make a difference.

The 28th is still two weeks away, and just because you haven't lost in the last ten days or so, doesn't mean you're not going to lose in the next two weeks. I think you're "borrowing" trouble.

I know it's hard not to feel that a "trend" is going to continue, but it's really unlikely that this is all the weight loss you're going to see from this kind of surgery. The surgeon took a good part of your digestive system off-line; you're going to see more than 10 lbs lost. Metabolism can slow down, but it can't stop, and even the slow down generally takes many weeks or several months.

With or without wls, when you start worrying that you're not losing as fast as "most" people seem to, you can drive yourself nuts. But, remember it's the fast losers that we're more likely to remember, and compare ourselves to - the real statistics may be much different.

I complained to my doctor that "most people" can lose much faster than I can - and he said "who said?" I told him, "well, most people can lose at least 1 or 2% of their body weight per week, or at least 1 to 2 lbs, and my doctor reminded me that "most people" lose nothing at all, because they don't stick with their changes - that it doesn't matter if I lose 1/4 of a lb, I'd still be ahead of "most people" if I stuck it out.

Obviouslyl with wls, you're going to be losing faster than without the wls, but I think it's probably just as dangerous and defeating to compare yourself to your idea of other people's success (without even knowing for sure, the true statistics than for those of us not going through the wls. You might be right in line where most people of your height/weight/age do - or you might even be exceeding those statistics. You're not comparing yourself to the reality - but to your impression of the reality (and doing either could put you through unnecessary trauma).

"It is what it is," and I know that isn't overly encouraging, but all you can do is "do your best, and leave the rest."

Good luck, and hang in there.

jillybean720 10-15-2009 12:54 PM

Almost every WLS patient hits a stall near the end of their first month. Of the 6 months since my surgery, I lost the LEAST in my second month due to stalls. Your body just needs to adjust. Here is a better explanation that I am stealing from a friend (Diana Cox) on OH:

A "stall" at this point is inevitable, and here is why.
Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble, but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4 lbs of water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2 lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy" 10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet.

As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of energy -- like, to outrun a sabertooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble. So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the glycogen that is being reformed and stored.

QuilterInVA 10-15-2009 01:12 PM

Nessa, how is your husband doing? Just curious.

Good advice for you has already been given. Just take some time to let your body heal and establish a pattern of weight loss. It might be a couple of months before your weight loss becomes more consistent.

ladybugnessa 10-15-2009 01:21 PM

Jilly I've seen Diana post that before... and it makes sense. does not make me happy but it makes sense.

Kaplods, thanks for that post it makes sense too... i know one day at a time. well today I did take a walk... yay me.

susan, hubby is doing great. last night he got up looking for a snack and he had a single serving size of DICED CARROTS... who'd have thought it.

his weight last time he weighed on our scale was 388 his high at the doc was 466 so he's doing GREAT!

jillybean720 10-15-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ladybugnessa (Post 2971874)
Jilly I've seen Diana post that before... and it makes sense. does not make me happy but it makes sense.

heh, yeah, knowing the "why" doesn't always make it better, but at least you should know you're not alone, and it sure isn't the end of the road for you!

MyGirlFriday 10-15-2009 09:42 PM

Nessa Girl you are bringing me down!:hug:
You have been through alot during the past few weeks, major surgery, major reaction to steri strips requiring you to have to take steroids....then just think you have to deal with the down side of those steroids. Just taking them plump you up~
Give yourself a break and a few days and you will be dropping the pounds.
Don't get so down on yourself....everyone is different and had different outcomes.
You will be writing a post in a few days about how the weight is just falling off!!
mgf~:flow1:

ladybugnessa 10-16-2009 08:32 AM

oh girl I hope so...

Duckslove 10-16-2009 12:02 PM

No he wont be dissapointed. I am pretty sure that is normal. i have had 2 family members have the surgery, both rny's and they both had the same thing. they felt very similar to how you feel. it will pass. let your body heal and catch up. the weight will start coming off.

jiffypop 10-16-2009 09:14 PM

ladybug - oh dear. everyone's given you such good advice. seriously - you're really doing fine. steroids will truly mess you up. i'm getting an impression that you're feeling that you've done everything and STILL nothing's happening? maybe if you take some ACTION you'll feel better about yourself. and trust me, i'm not talking about anything drastic or weird - just something that'll help you realize that you ARE doing the right thing -

keep a diary. on one side, track your food and water, on the other side, your exercise. look at it. tweak it. learn from it. and take it to your doc appt. he'll be FAR more pleased that you're doing what you're supposed to than with the number on the scale.

sometimes we need these little aids to help us realize that we really ARE doing OK.

and please - don't compare yourself to anyone else. we are ALL so very very different.

ValCom 10-17-2009 12:32 PM

It is still so hard 3.5 weeks from surgery and it sounds like you have been through so much. I had surgery in May -- recently enough for me to remember the difficulties and far enough past it to be so grateful that part is over. Please hang in there! And do NOT worry about your doctor and his reaction, worry about YOURSELF. You are the patient and you need his care, support and guidance. I know this is a very different way of thinking of things, but really, he needs to live up to your expectations, not the other way around.

Is there a nutritionist at your surgeon's office or the hospital that you can speak to and/or email? I emailed and spoke to mine so often in the beginning and it did help. I had a very difficult time in the beginning getting in protein and fluids; it takes a while.

Also, this may not be possible for you, but I will share one more thing that helped me: I really didn't focus on the pounds. I know that may sound ridiculous (after all, why did you go through all of this anyway?), but if you can simply focus on trying to TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF each day, and get in your protein and appropriate fluids, the emphasis will come off the weight, and the weight will come off.

Take care of yourself and best of luck. Hang in there. I promise it gets easier.

nanj 10-17-2009 02:48 PM

Hey Lady: Your system is screwed up right now. Here is my lecture for all newbees. STAY OFF THE SCALES!!! Throw them in the back of the closet and let them stay there or just weigh once a month. The scale will defeat your mind!!! LOL! Are your clothes fitting you better? So many times, I would stall, but my clothe size would change. Just keep doing what you are suppose to do and you CAN'T NOT lose. Don't compare yourself to your DH, because them boogers seem to lose faster than us women. Talk with your NUT. Steroids sure don't help. Are you moving around? Just hang in there...everyone is different. YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE!


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