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KO 09-01-2009 11:31 AM

5 Day Pouch Test Day 1-5
 
I figured I'd Post the Pouch Test Experience for a Step By Step (or indeed sip by sip) account in case anyone wants to try it
I'm on Day 1
Had 1/2 cup of 1% Milk with my vities
20 oz coffee with whole Milk (from the fluffly coffee place next door) and 2 scoops of isopure for Breakfast
I'm sipping on my 5 cup bottle of watery iced tea I can't do straight water
I brought baggies with 2 scoops of isopure each in them and 2 snapple bottles with 8-10 oz of Crystal light sunrise.
and a 5.5 oz can of v8 in case I get the woozies
So far not hungry a little burpy and feelign my legs start to unswell.

This scale this AM read 146 and my ankles are the size of Navel Oranges.
I took My Time Sipping My Creamsicle Protein shake and found myself a bit overfull on 10-12 oz of Crystal light and 2 scoops isopure

its about 2:17 pm in a relatively high pressure day Normally I'd be eating something now and be darn hungry for it so far I'm not and I'm holding off on Shake #3 until my body asks for it

Leenie 09-01-2009 01:18 PM

So its a liquid protein diet? If you can tolerate it you can probably drink V8 and stuff like that?

I'm thinking of doing this too..

KO 09-01-2009 01:30 PM

The first 2 days is liquids
the 3rd is soft protein like eggs/tuna
the f4th is firm protein like ground meat
and the 5th and final is solid protein

no drinking 1/2 before and after and the non liquid meals are supposed to last around 15 min.
Kaye the lady who developed this has all kind of soup recipes and whatnot for the liquid days
and you can have protein shakes all the way through if you like
or soft proteins on the firm and solid days and so on
I'm going out to lunch on day 4 :eek: however the place we're going to makes Italian tuna salad. so I'm good to go.
The whole point is to shrink your pouch/banded area, show you how little it takes to be comfy and kill the cravings.

I do think my new name should be Tinkles the clown!

annie175 09-01-2009 01:41 PM

I am going to try this too, maybe starting it next week. Too much hoopala going on right now.

Leenie 09-01-2009 01:45 PM

Yeah.... sounds like a good plan to me, sensible.

Thanks for bringing this up again KO :hug: I think it would be good to make this a sticky.

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KO 09-01-2009 03:24 PM

http://www.5daypouchtest.com/
There is the URL for interested parties

KO 09-02-2009 07:38 AM

I had a strange Hypoglycemic thing happen yesterday. . .that's been happening for a while so adding in more milk today
Made a chocolate shake last night soooo goood
2 tbsp of cocoa Powder
3-4 tbsp splenda
Trader Joes vanilla
8 oz of milk
2 scoops Isopure

Whisk cocoa splenda 2 oz of milk and vanilla into slurry (I used a fork) then add in remaining milk then protein
Surprisingly good and the alcohol Free vanilla made the difference!
on to day 2!

KO 09-02-2009 12:14 PM

My fibro is hittign pretty hard today
I had a Choc protein shake for breakie and I just had a creamsicle shake for AM snack
if one of my gfs hits the grocery at lunch I'm going to get a soup at hand and just drink the broth
then have a vanilla shake this afternoon. . .milk and protein when my sugars usually drop
Little shaky today but not sure if its day 2 or the fibro
not cravy just a little weak

I ended up eating the soup at hand and the noodles no adverse effects but I don't feel like I'm dying
she does allow for carbs I just didn't have time to make her soups

KO 09-03-2009 11:06 AM

Last Night I got home and made a PB protein shake
which I ate 2/3 of (I just added 2 tbsp PB to my normal Vanilla)

Later last night I made 3 oz of Tuna with a tbsp of LF Mayo b/c I got really weak and was kinda scary foggy
(I think if I took the time to make her carby soups I would not hav had this happen)
I'm down 3 pounds today (Think from Legs unswelling) and my pouch is definitely more sensitive so Little sips and bites today!

KO 09-03-2009 04:30 PM

I'm amazed by how little it takes to be satiated. I was hungry by lunch but waiting the half hour for my water to leave the pouch. Sat down with my tuna muffin I had brought 2 out and was comfortable on 1

around 2:45 my blood sugar or something dropped I got hot but before I started to feel sick grabbed my bag of cashews and was ok
The Cashews are NOT OP I think PB is but I needed somethign More portable
I'm just amazed at how little food it took to fill me
that being said My tuna muffisn had flax parmesan Mozz and cheddar in or on them and 1/4 cup dried minced onion so they were more like Tuna bricks
119 calories and 13 g protein

Leenie 09-03-2009 07:03 PM

WOW, I'm glad its working, I'm looking forward to trying it... you know, the less I eat the better I feel too.. but its hard to get to that point (does that make sense?).

Thanks for all these updates KO... :hug:

KO 09-04-2009 11:34 AM

Not a problem!!! :hug: Day 4 is going to be a challenge I'm working from home
Last night I had 1/2 cup of ff rf beans with spices and shredded cheddar
later on a fudge pop
Today I had a tuna muffin and a while after that Morning Thunder Tea with a little Milk and a scoop of Protein
we're getting takeout coz dh and I are WFH today so Steamed Chicken shrimp or tof with black bean sauce
Tonight going to trader Joes with My gf I hope

The big change that's made the most difference is not drinking with my meals and having the half hour wait between eating and drinking I'm satiated longer
also thirsty enough to motivatedly drink liquid

Leenie 09-04-2009 03:19 PM

COOL !!! I love hearing about your day.. does it seem easier as they pass?

Have fun at Trader Joes... I like that store :D

KO 09-04-2009 03:48 PM

The only tough day was day 2 2 days of liquids is hard but as I said if I made her carb monster soups I wouldn't have been so sick.
Lunch changed up a bit
Today is Firm Protein
So DH wanted Pizza
i can't eat just the top of Pizza. . .it's a trigger
so we went to Grossi In BH they have outdoor seating I ate the inside of part of a cheese steak About a cup of meat with onions peppers and cheese
Ideal no but workable and
Here is the INSANE!!! Part
Normally when I order this somewhere I'm really REALLY tempted by bread and this roll was gorgeous
I noted that it was a gorgeous roll and didn't give in
So my cravings are dying!!
:cb: That being said
if I don't go to the bathroom soon I'm going to need drano.
am hoping if I can get out of work early that DH and I can hit TJS my gf is being a bit pouty so don't know if I'll see her

Leenie 09-05-2009 07:18 AM

Awesome !!! I am so going to do this and will report my days here as well. Maybe it will help w/my acid reflux too :shrug:

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KO 09-05-2009 10:53 AM

Last night I had 1/3 cup of Channa (chick pea) Masala about 3 pieces of paneer and sauce. soo good.
Today My breakfast deviated from the plan b/c I really need to go to the bathroom
so 2/3 cup Trader Joes high Fiber Cereal and 1/4 cup raisins. . .basically I'm waiting to dump.
after that back to the small portions I just can't go without veggies for 5 days!

Leenie 09-05-2009 11:32 AM

Can you drink veggie juice during that time or prune (may be to sugary?) ?

KO 09-05-2009 12:01 PM

Probably not prune but I think veggie you can also have bean soups
but DH isn't on the bean soup wagon unless it's cold out so i didn't make any
Her site is very informative and there's pages of FAQ

even before Surg I had a lot of problems going to the bathroom so it could just be me
My major benefit from this so far
(and I'm not giving up I just had a bowl of high fibr cereal to move things along)
is not drinking with meals
and eating a considerably smaller portion
I think b/c the TJ's cereal has natural sugar and not aspartame I'm not having my bread fixation

Leenie 09-07-2009 08:00 PM

I'm doing the 5 day starting tomorrow.. wish me luck !!! ;)

KO, what do you think about it all now that its done and over and your a few days into normalcy ?

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KO 09-08-2009 10:54 AM

Good Luck Leens!
I think if I do it again, I'll do 1 day of shakes adn allow for more veggies (and make the bean soups)
Tomorrow I'm goign to see my surgeon b/c of my wierd sugar thign that's happening.
the only problem I encountered from this is due to the lack of veggies
I couldn't go to the bathroom and am now slowly bringing the swelling down on my legs.
a couple days of minute muffins and protein coffee for breakfast is startign to work.
The cereal didn't do jack!

Leenie 09-08-2009 11:08 AM

Good advice KO. And thanks for the Good Luck !! I'll need it. I almost took a bite of my dd's pancake this morning LOL.. old habits ;)

So far so good.

KO 09-09-2009 11:51 AM

I was thinking about being back in "normal" eating mode. and I will say I had some food backlash mentally
meaning oh I couldn't eat this before so lets have it now.

Leenie 09-09-2009 01:59 PM

Thats where it all starts... but its good to be aware of it thats for sure.

Day 2 - going good so far :D

Leenie 09-11-2009 10:29 AM

So far so good...its hard but my body feels good. I'm eating soft food today :D

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Leenie 09-12-2009 04:45 PM

Well that was interesting haaaaaaaa hard too, but I do feel pretty good. I don't thin 5 days was enuf to shrink the pouch but it put a tick in my ear and I know what I need to do ;)


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chattykathy 01-06-2010 03:54 PM

I'm doing the 5 day test to help get me back on track and to see if I need a fill. I'm on day 3 and I want to say the same thing as Leenie did:
"So far so good...its hard but my body feels good. I'm eating soft food today!"

chattykathy 01-07-2010 08:10 PM

Day 4 and I'm eating firm protein. YUM!

I have discovered that I need a little fill in my band. I'm glad I did this test. I think I'll start each month off with it to see where I am and help keep me on track with my food choices.

MIMI1025 07-26-2011 04:05 PM

would love to have recipes for some of your protein shakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KO (Post 2904865)
I figured I'd Post the Pouch Test Experience for a Step By Step (or indeed sip by sip) account in case anyone wants to try it
I'm on Day 1
Had 1/2 cup of 1% Milk with my vities
20 oz coffee with whole Milk (from the fluffly coffee place next door) and 2 scoops of isopure for Breakfast
I'm sipping on my 5 cup bottle of watery iced tea I can't do straight water
I brought baggies with 2 scoops of isopure each in them and 2 snapple bottles with 8-10 oz of Crystal light sunrise.
and a 5.5 oz can of v8 in case I get the woozies
So far not hungry a little burpy and feelign my legs start to unswell.

This scale this AM read 146 and my ankles are the size of Navel Oranges.
I took My Time Sipping My Creamsicle Protein shake and found myself a bit overfull on 10-12 oz of Crystal light and 2 scoops isopure

its about 2:17 pm in a relatively high pressure day Normally I'd be eating something now and be darn hungry for it so far I'm not and I'm holding off on Shake #3 until my body asks for it

Quote:

Originally Posted by KO (Post 2908092)
Last Night I got home and made a PB protein shake
which I ate 2/3 of (I just added 2 tbsp PB to my normal Vanilla)

Later last night I made 3 oz of Tuna with a tbsp of LF Mayo b/c I got really weak and was kinda scary foggy
(I think if I took the time to make her carby soups I would not hav had this happen)
I'm down 3 pounds today (Think from Legs unswelling) and my pouch is definitely more sensitive so Little sips and bites today!

I would love to have your recipe for your creamsicle and PB protein shakes. I am going to try the % day pouch test and the only protein shakes recipes I have contain fruit which is not low carb . Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.

The Beekeeper 02-26-2014 08:27 PM

It's so great to read your day-by-day, KO!! :carrot::carrot:

I plan to do the 5DPT soon but need to go to the store to load up on supplies first. Until then, I've been doing Days 3-5 in a rather loose way but working to get in the habit of holding off on my water for 30 minutes prior and 30-45 minutes after. It was truly a big challenge to make that adjustment but it has gotten easier in the past 48 hours. And it really does make the difference in the level & duration of any hunger pangs that come along.

Anyone else who has or is currently doing the 5DPT, I would love to hear from you. When I officially kick off my 5DPT, I'll do my best to post progress reports. ;)

KO 02-26-2014 09:27 PM

Bee I just want to say make sure you have the more solid liquids stuff that has staying power. You don't want blood sugar swings

The Beekeeper 02-27-2014 08:09 PM

Thx, KO. Can you make some recommendations on what kinds of solid liquids? I'm looking at her 5DPT book so if some of those recipes worked for you, please share . . .

DivaToni 04-22-2015 11:42 AM

newbie here
 
hey everyone, in 2010 i did a crazy thing and went to mexico to have a vertical sleeve i know i know i was nuts but desperate to be thin . of course i lost like 40 pds not eating for a whole month would do that . i started gaining it back and i was more depressed than ever . then after 2 years i decided to seek out another dr and found a great one in nj that would help me this time i didnt have to pay out of pocket it was covered by my insurance and it was in usa lol . he takes a look at my xray that was givin to me and it wasnt done correctly sooooooooo he decided to do a bypass on me and i figured this time it would work and guess what ? it didnt am i destined to stay fat ? i think the only time i will have a hot smokin body is when i die and get cremated . i know this isnt a fix blah blah blah and you have to work hard at it blah blah blah but why is it easier for some to just keep it off ? so here i am 55 yrs old 5.4 and 213.8 pds thank God i carry my weight preety well or id look even bigger . so nowq i decided to go back on la weight loss i have all the info so im not spending another penny . i have a great support team at home my husband loves me any old way he doesnt care but i care looking foward for some encourgement and to give back ;-)

QuilterInVA 04-23-2015 09:39 AM

The bypass doesn't do the work, you do. You have to follow the diet to the letter and exercise. You can do this. It's a matter of choices - you either choose to do what results in weight loss, or you don't. Keep a food and exercise diary - myfitnesspal.com is a great place for this. Just log what you are currently eating and then you can see where you need to make modifications. Find some exercise you can do every day, mix it up but find something you enjoy. Walking is fine. You'll get more feedback if you start a new thread.

Jane 04-25-2015 12:24 PM

Divatoni, Susan has given you some very good feedback. Since you are interested in pursuing a different weight loss method than surgery, this forum isn't for you. Here is a link to the Diet Central forum, a place where you can discuss LA weight loss or any other method of non-surgery weight loss options.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/diet-central-102/
Good luck to you!

annrich 07-02-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KO (Post 2905064)
The first 2 days is liquids
the 3rd is soft protein like eggs/tuna
the f4th is firm protein like ground meat
and the 5th and final is solid protein

no drinking 1/2 before and after and the non liquid meals are supposed to last around 15 min.
Kaye the lady who developed this has all kind of soup recipes and whatnot for the liquid days
and you can have protein shakes all the way through if you like
or soft proteins on the firm and solid days and so on
I'm going out to lunch on day 4 :eek: however the place we're going to makes Italian tuna salad. so I'm good to go.
The whole point is to shrink your pouch/banded area, show you how little it takes to be comfy and kill the cravings.

I do think my new name should be Tinkles the clown!

hmmm, i can't live without fruits and vegetables...

xbubloox 08-15-2017 01:13 PM

can i still do this.. i had gb in 2009

kivi nara 09-03-2017 06:39 AM

i do not accept surgery for weight loss

kivi nara 09-03-2017 06:41 AM

because there are a lot of thinks on internet about weight loss

Ramzi 10-26-2017 10:59 PM

Yes I am going to do as-well. Nice plan thanks :)

Julia2189 12-20-2018 01:32 PM

Good luck!


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