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cakegirl 07-06-2004 05:50 PM

I really need help
 
Is there anyone who can help me because I know longer have any idea as to what to do.

I was reading my old blog today, which I just recently stopped keeping. I started it as a way to track my personal journey in weightloss over three years ago, and in re-reading, I kept coming across three years worth of 'light-bulb moment' entries in which I'd FINALLY REALIZED what I needed to do in order to lose weight and how I'd FINALLY turned the corner FOR REAL this time. It was so depressing because in each of these many entries I was fervent and I really did mean it. I can tell how much I wanted it to be true.

But do you know what I've lost? A whole lot of not much. Two years ago, I joined Weight Watchers. 1.5 years of trying to stay on their plan brought me down 9 pounds, and, in breaking up with my longterm boyfriend this spring, I gained back all of it plus 2. So I joined Jenny Craig because, hey, if WW wasn't working, I needed to try something different. The first two weeks I lost 5 pounds. It was fabulous. I felt possible. I felt like it would all be different this time. Except that it wasn't. It's now been 2.5 months, and I've lost a whopping total of 7 pounds. And I'm not frustrated because I'm not losing a lot of weight, I'm frustrated because I know I'm not 'working the program.' I'm so sick of that food and ALL I want to do is cheat.

Before JC and WW, there were juice fasts I could never get through, the fat flush plan which had me incoherent and too dizzy to stand by the end of the first day, Slimfast, giving up sugar at least three different times, running programs that always fizzled at some point, a Curves membership I never could seem to use, and so much else. I've only really avoided anorexia, bulemia, and diet pills. Luckily. But sometimes... I don't know. I wonder where it WILL stop since it's been spiraling out of control for so many years.

But I desperately want to be different. I HATE being fat. I'm sick of it. I know it's a huge problem - I know I use it as an excuse and as something to hide behind. You know... it's that whole, my life can start once I'm thin thing. I seriously think that a lot of the time. But I'm 28 now. My life HAS started. But I still don't have the confidence I should. There are still things I can't enjoy the way I would want to because I'm overweight. And beyond that it plagues me... it frames how I see my whole life. I think about it constantly, and I am forever charting where I was then and how I'll be there. It makes me miserable.

But what is there to comfort me? Well, food. Food makes me feel safe and okay and happy for a moment and like some things are still in my control (that's the REALLY ironic part since I'm totally out of control with my eating, but somehow I've gotten it in my head that control is when I can eat whatever I want, when certain things (sugar, nachos, bread, etc) are not forbidden to me).

And now I'm moving. To Southern California where everyone is effin' beautiful and perfect. It's such a supposed big deal out there that I'm worried I won't be able to get basic things like housing because I'm not good looking enough. It's awful because there are whole parts of me that are normal and have great self esteem, but then there is this fat, and it's always there, always consuming me, always holding me back.

And I don't know if I can beat it. I don't. I've seen so many false starts and fallen promises. What if I'm not strong enough? And what will it take to do it anyway? After all this stuff that HASN'T worked, what actually will be different? I just don't know.

So I'm posting here because I've watched these forums for awhile and I know that many people do have success, and I don't really know where else to turn. I weigh 210 pounds. I want to weigh somewhere between 130 and 140, which isn't even that small for my height (5'5"). It's something I've wanted since I felt fat at 160, 180, 195, and 200. I have to reverse this cycle, and although I know I'm still relatively young, I somehow feel like I'm running out of time.

StarPrincess 07-06-2004 06:10 PM

Oh, Cakegirl! :grouphug: I've been there. Dozens of times. Where I tell myself "this is it" but then those old habits sneak back in and I get tired of trying so hard and just want to quit and go eat a cheesecake.

The hard thing is that we all have to find our own way. Because a diet will never work. The key is making lifelong changes and you can't do that if you're not happy with what your getting or forking out hundreds of dollars for special food.

Here are the 2 biggest weightloss/health "secrets" that I've learned from my own experiences and reading the experiences of the wonderful "maintainers" we haver here:

1. Eat whole foods. Junk food is junk food regardless of fat, carb, or calorie content. Unprocessed, unrefined, and chock full of nutrients is the way to go. I've found that if I'm getting the right balance of vitamins and minerals from my food, I don't even have to think about portion control. It just happens. And I feel hugely better, too.

2. You must move. It's non-negotiable. Do you have to go to the gym, or join an aerobics class, or run 10 miles a day? No. Find something you like to do that involves movement and do it. Take a walk, go dancing, join some kids on a playground, lift some dumb bells when you're watching tv, try bellydancing or pilates. There are hundreds of ways to move.

You can do it!

macdeez 07-06-2004 06:19 PM

First of all, thank you for speaking the truth. Your truth. My truth. And the truth of a lot of others. I'm quite certain a lot of people can relate to your story and to your concerns. I certainly can.

While I haven't tried WW and JC, I've often contemplated joining. And then decided on something "better" to spend my $$$ on (meanwhile telling myself "If I just (insert newest fad diet here) I can lose the weight...") but to no avail. And more often than not, that money I could have spent on a weight-loss program is spent at McDonald's or some other fast food joint.

I, too, am an emotional eater. I eat when I'm happy, sad, lonely, bored, when I've achieved something, when I've failed. It's a hideous cycle to live in. And like you, I've grown accustomed to thinking that food is safety and comfort. But then I try and squeeze myself into my largest size of clothing and realize that that is far from comforting. But again, the cycle continues. Melissa can't fit into her clothes. Melissa becomes sad. Melissa binges like mad. Melissa feels guilty. And on and on we go.

While I obviously don't have some miracle plan, I know that I need to get healthy and happy for me... and for my family. I also know what it's like to measure yourself up to "picture-perfect" (my sister was a model and it was wickedly thrown in my face at every opportunity) -- the pressure is beyond ridiculous.

But your goal is attainable! You CAN do this... it may be difficult and you will probably want to throw in the towel. But that's what we're here for. We're all in the same boat as you... wanting to get to a healthier, happier us! :)

Instead of setting larger goals that currently seem far-fetched, start off slow. Set a goal of 10lbs. Then once you get there, aim for 15lbs. And so forth.

Best of luck... and if you need to talk, don't hesitate to msg me! :)

~mel

avery 07-06-2004 09:28 PM

Cakegirl :grouphug:

First, I have to second Macdeez's thank you. Thank you for your honesty. Your post really hit home with me. I was where you were a few years ago--except I had made it up to 350 lbs. I felt like the fattest weight loss expert in the world. I could, off the top of my head, tell you how many calories were in a slice of pizza, apple, peanut butter sandwich, etc. I could design a weight lifting program, draw you the food pyramid, count weight watchers points in my head. I knew all the "tricks": drink 8 glasses of cold water, jog in place at your desk for five minutes, set your fork down between eat bite, "love yourself", etc. etc. Still I weighed 350. I hated myself and felt like I had no self-control. Food was my comfort, but I knew it was killing me.

So what was the magic "pill" that helped me? In some ways it doesn't matter, because like Starprincess said, you have to find what works for you. I spent too long thinking if I just did what the person on the cover of Women's Day did to lose 80 lbs, I could do it too. Except, it never did. Finally, I learned what worked for me. And I've stuck with it.

My only advice to you is to keep trying. Know that you are strong. You wouldn't have posted if you didn't care about yourself (which takes a lot of strength!) Look hard at yourself and decide why you want to do this. You've had "revelations" in the past. What is different this time?

If you need to talk or just need to vent, feel free to im me (plaitleo) on aol.

praytherosary822 07-06-2004 10:17 PM

Hello Cakegirl. I will keep you in my prayers. WE have all been there at one time or another. You may want to try reading a book called the Thin Books. It is 2 books in one. The first part deals with just about all the issues you mentioned. The second part is a daily motivation with a positive action plan. Remember to take things one day at a time. Yesterday is done and gone, no use fretting you can't go back and un do what has or has not been done. Tomorrow is not here yet so there are no knowns. All we have is today and every day is today. Take care and God BLess.

goofgirl 07-07-2004 01:41 AM

You're worth all this!
 
Hi cakegirl,

Another hearty "thanks" for your post. First of all, I'd like to ease your fears about southern CA. I live about an hour's drive north of LA. Not everyone here surfs, has blonde hair and goes to the plastic surgeon on a weekly basis. I live about 10 minutes from the beach and can count on one hand the number of times I've been in the last 10 years. This state is full of gorgeous, fat, thin, funny looking, beautiful, pimply, bronzed, short, apple-shaped, pear-shaped, stick-shaped people, just like any where else. I know that's not the image that's projected, but it's true. LA really is a melting pot. I'm glad to welcome you to our state! :flow2:

All of that aside, sometimes we need to take a hard look into why we are who we are, how we got here and why we stay. So much of what you said rings true for me, too. I wonder so often about why I keep on weight. I think, if I was thin, I could do this... If I looked better I could go here... etc. etc. And then I wonder if I stay heavy so I DON'T have the opportunities to do those things. It's so much easier to just exist. What would my excuse be then?

Instead of reading the latest fitness magazine, digesting the newest diet food, becoming experts on glycemic indexes and carb/protein/fat ratios, all the while feeling like we're depriving or punishing ourselves or forcing something to happen, maybe we need to really look at our histories, our fears, our hangups and become experts on ourselves. Maybe if we start to change on the inside, the rest will follow. The struggle will cease to be, and we can enjoy our lives now, not when we lose 20, 30, 80 pounds.

I'll be 28 this year. I'm at 190 but was at 200 about two and a half weeks ago. I'm slowly deciding that I'm tired of being a prisoner in my own body. I'm trying to gain the confidence, the, dare I say it, "self-love" I need to really make lifestyle changes that will affect me inside and out. I don't know if that helps you, but it seems like we might be coming from the same place and I know you deserve to try again, to keep faith in yourself. I know we all will! ;)

vilaraw 07-07-2004 02:50 AM

My Goodness I can not believe how much the things that have been said here sound like me. I want to be smaller so much but at the same time I find myself thinking about how differently people treat me now that I am big. When I was thinner I couldn't seem to hold a female friend because their boyfriends all ended up hitting on me. Now, no worries there. And most of my friends are girls. I am the person they view as safe. SO I end up in this feeling of do I lose weight and be healthy and be able to run and play but have people view me as the competition or do I stay big and (as someone put it earlier) just exist. I know that ultimately loosing weight is what I MUST do but I experience so much self sabotage. Thank you cakegirl for showing that I am not the only one who is stuck.

Highstrung 07-07-2004 02:18 PM

I think we all need to take a long hard look at the excuses we make. And when I say WE...I mean WE...I do it too. We blame our fat on our metabolism, or our genes, or the fact that there are two dozen skinny blondes at the gym that make us too uncomfortable to exercise. RUBBISH!!! It comes down to: we are fat because we have chosen to be fat. We CHOSE to eat a big mac instead of a salad. We CHOSE to drink a soda instead of water. We CHOSE to lay on the couch in sweats watching a tv show we really don't enjoy instead of taking a walk after dinner. We chose to promise we will workout tomorrow, instead of doing something today. We chose to say we are going to start our diet Monday so we can pig out on the weekend, instead of starting right now.
Then when we realize all that, we need to realize how we have used our fat as an excuse in the rest of our lives. I didn't get picked for that promotion because I'm fat...._____dumped me because I'm fat.....and I could go on and on.
Yes we use fat as a sheild...we don't want to blame ourselves for our mistakes, or shortcomings, or poor choices, so we blame the fat. We don't want to change ourselves because we have fallen into the path of least resistence. We don't want to change because it will take X months to lose weight and that's just too long. We want it all we just don't want to work or wait for it. But you know what? We have to. We don't want to change because the fat has become our security blanket. Why would you want to lose weight when you can give only a 50% effort and not have to take responsibility when it doesn't work out? If you were thin you would have to give more effort. No multitude of epiphanies or diet plans or even message boards are going to help unless or until you have set your mind that you will not only lose weight on the outside, but also on the inside. You have to be ready to blow up your life, let the pieces fall where they may and hope they land in smaller jeans.

praytherosary822 07-07-2004 08:48 PM

Carol - tell it like it is Girl! You are so right! You sound like you have been there too. You know the comment you made about losing weight not only on the outside but also on the inside made sense to me. Awhile back I had loss over 80 pounds and foolishly put most of it back on, anyway the point of my story is that, after I went from 215.5 to 130, I would go to the store and still go into the plus size clothes straight to the size that I was when I was my heaviest. It was like I loss the weight on the outside and never realized it on the inside. Hmmm. SOmething to meditate on. Anyway have a wonderful evening. God Bless.

fotojunkie 07-07-2004 11:19 PM

Oh, boy! Do your words sound familiar! When I was young, even until I was 30 or so, I had a killer body, I looked and felt beautiful. When I was in my teens and twenties I was a professional model. Imagine living your formative years under THAT pressure! lol I grew up feeling as if I had to look perfect all the time!

Now, at 37 I realize it isn't all about the exterior. Sadly, though, society does judge us on our aesthetic qualities and how we can "dress up the place." For years no one even mentioned my intelligence (I have a 211 IQ!), but they were sure quick to notice my eyes, face, lips, body, legs, backside - everything that can fade with age or be lost in a split second. My confidence grew shakier and shakier as I depended more and more on how I looked. Then, at 30, I realized that I was quickly losing my youth. I wasn't young any longer. So, I packed on the pounds. The self esteem issues, combined with medication for depression (related? Yeah, I think so!) increased my girth by leaps and bounds. The larger I grew, the more insulated from the world I felt. I spent 6 years in that state, hiding from the world - and myself.

I met a wonderful man and he showed me the beautiful woman behind the insulation. At 272 pounds and 6' tall I was a BIG girl. I felt awful, but he found beauty where I only saw ugliness. He saw a spirit in me and found the beautiful woman inside. He accepted me just as I was - more than 100 pounds over my post baby weight. He drew me out.

I buckled down and lost the weight. It wasn't easy, but it was not as difficult as I thought it would be. I researched nutrition and created a diet that I could live with. I created recipes that taste great and have ingredients that "normal" people use. It has now become a way of life.

Now, more than 80 pounds lighter, I have a little sign on my desk (at home) that says, "Would you be more attracted to me if my IQ bounced gently when I walked down the stairs?" Beauty fades, but you can only get smarter.

I lost the weight, but I found a beautiful spirit and mind inside. I found a Stephanie that had been hiding from the world for most of her life.

You can find that person inside yourself. Find her and the rest will fall into place. There is support here, take it. If you EVER need for someone just to hear you, I am here. If you EVER need a shoulder to cry on, I am here. I have been there and I know it is tough, but I have faith in you. More importantly, though, YOU must have faith in yourself.

I know you can do it.

mette 07-08-2004 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cakegirl
in re-reading, I kept coming across three years worth of 'light-bulb moment' entries in which I'd FINALLY REALIZED what I needed to do in order to lose weight and how I'd FINALLY turned the corner FOR REAL this time.

Oh yes. I had journals full of these epiphanies too - moments that just sizzled away...
I finally threw out the journals with the endless, repetitive babbling/daydreaming/whining about how everything would be perfect if I just lost all the weight, if only I could wake up the next morning thin, if only - if only. In the end even I got bored with them: pages upon pages where nothing happened, nothing got done.
Now I have a body log in stead. A log where I write down what I actually *do* to lose weight: my workouts, the food/calories I eat, my plans, goals and rewards, the emotional and cognitive exercises I do aimed to address my hang-ups, motivation, body image, fears, etc. And everything in this log is directed at the "here and now" / "what I'm actually doing" / "the reality" - not the "if only".

And cakegirl - everybody here is right: find your own way, stick with it, and look into why you're who you are, how you got here and why you stay!
Have you read the latest "The Skinny Daily Post"? Juju writes about how the truth of weight loss is never sexy or magical - just plain old hard work! Check it out here: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=109
I wish you the best - and everybody else who have posted here too. You guys are really the best. I've never been at a place with so many motivating and smart people before.

Genesis 07-15-2004 11:23 AM

Cakegirl, I understand exactly where you are coming from. Hold your chin up and take baby steps. It's a lot of work, but you can do it!!!!! :)

goeatanapple 07-24-2004 10:52 PM

Cakegirl, we've all been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. You are NOT alone!!

1) Chuck the "fad" diets - you need to remember that your new diet is for LIFE, therefore it has to be something that you could realistically stick to in the long term. YOU can design your own diet, remembering that it is constantly flexible and open to change. What you need to "build" this diet on is the Basics, such as:

- Fruit
- Vegies
- Wholegrain breads and pastas
- Lean meat, chicken breast (sorry no skin!)
- Fish
- Plenty of water!
- Milk, Yoghurt, Cheese (very small servings for cheese)

... etc
The more of this sort of stuff you eat, the better

2) Time to get MOVING! The weight ain't gonna move, and stay off, unless YOU move. And, as an added bonus, you'll start feeling great! As mentioned above, you don't have to run a marathon everyday. Start small, then keep building up and up as your fitness slowly improves.

3) ENJOY THE JOURNEY. The best thing about the journey in losing weight and revealing a new, healthier, slimmer "you" is the self-discovery! It is a profound time in your life, as you discover just how amazing, strong and self-disicplined you are! I myself want to have the sort of body I can look at and feel PROUD of, because it will be the product of very hard work!

4) SUPPORT IS ESSENTIAL ... and you don't have to pay for it, after all, 3fatchicks is FREE FREE FREEEE!

Good luck!

Jen 07-24-2004 11:08 PM

I've also had plenty of those light bulb moments thinking I had finally figured out how I was going to lose the weight that was dragging me down. Ultimately I ended up feeling like a loser when I couldn't lose any weight. I have no magic solutions. A lot of very good advice has already been given here so I won't add anything except to say that the best thing about 3FC is that I feel a lot more accepted in the world knowing that there are plenty of people out there going through the same stuff that I am.

lj_cox 07-25-2004 09:17 AM

What helped me really seriously lose weight and keep it off was reframing. The last time I set out to lose weight I decided that losing weight wasn't going to be what it was about. What it was going to be about was getting fit. Getting fit meant eating healthy day by day, exercising day by day, writing down what I ate honestly even on bad days, drinking water. Every time I did those things it was a win, and I celebrated each winning day. Success breeds success, for each win I wanted another, and gradually it got easier. I have bad days (heck last year was a bad year) but I've never been as heavy as I was 3 years ago, and I'm stronger and in better shape than I ever was.

Look at the weight loss as a side effect of getting fit. Breaking free of the scale as the primary motivator avoids all the rotten feelings of failure when you don't lose quickly enough, or gain even though you're doing everything right. Celebrate the winning steps on your journey. The body log idea above is a great one.

I hope this is helpful.

Linda C.

funniegrrl 07-27-2004 09:30 PM

Quote:

You have to be ready to blow up your life, let the pieces fall where they may and hope they land in smaller jeans.
Exactly, precisely, pithy and true. Which leads me to ...

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Originally Posted by lj_cox
What helped me really seriously lose weight and keep it off was reframing. The last time I set out to lose weight I decided that losing weight wasn't going to be what it was about. What it was going to be about was getting fit. Getting fit meant eating healthy day by day, exercising day by day, writing down what I ate honestly even on bad days, drinking water. Every time I did those things it was a win, and I celebrated each winning day. Success breeds success, for each win I wanted another, and gradually it got easier. ...

Look at the weight loss as a side effect of getting fit. Breaking free of the scale as the primary motivator avoids all the rotten feelings of failure when you don't lose quickly enough, or gain even though you're doing everything right. Celebrate the winning steps on your journey.

BINGO

I've been overweight all my life. All. My. Life. And, despite some losses here and there, over the years I gained and gained. At the age of 39 -- three years ago -- I was nearly 340. There's a very long story behind how I finally decided to try ONE MORE TIME to lose weight, but it boils down to three things:

ONE - I had experienced success with getting some other aspects of my life under control, such as finances. I worked very hard, curbed some of my pleasure-seeking ways, and finally felt like an adult when it came to money. Achievement breeds confidence, and every time I paid an extra $50 on a credit card, or paid off a loan, I patted myself on the back and let myself get a little giddy about it. I made myself pay attention to the real numbers, I made a realistic plan, I stuck to it, and I celebrated small successes. That gave me some confidence that I could acheive difficult tasks with long-range goals which required some change of attitude and personal sacrifice.

TWO - I started taking care of myself a little better. Despite the fact that I was so very overweight, I made sure my clothes weren't sloppy, that I wore makeup, etc. That made me feel better about myself. No one ever succeeded at losing weight by hating and neglecting themselves. After I started a program, I continued on this path. I now get manicures & pedicures, massages, regular hair cuts. I dress up and go out, even though I am still a size 18. I started a yoga class a year ago -- swallowed my apprehension about being the only fat inflexible girl in a room full of size 0 yoginis -- and I LOVED it from the very first class. It meets not only a physical need but a spiritual need as well. In other words, I take care of myself REGARDLESS of my size, both physically and mentally.

THREE -- What Linda said. I was frightened of getting only larger, of looming disability and ill health. I was tired of feeling like cr*p all the time. I was tired of ... eating junk, but I couldn't bring myself to "just eat healthy." Despite the fact that I joined a formal program (more about that in a minute), I did exactly the kind of reframing that Linda discussed. Again, there's a long detailed rationale and strategy here, but the condensed version is that I decided my goal was to reshape my life. That meant working on my compulsive eating (and yes, The Thin Books are GREAT in addressing this issue). That meant developing strategies to understand myself, understand my almost unconscious thought patterns, reshaping my attitudes, examining every aspect of my life and my mind to observe reactions and patterns and come up with solutions to everything that stood in my way. I didn't weigh myself for SIX WEEKS after starting my program. And, I only weighed myself about every 6 weeks after that for the first 6 months. Losing weight wasn't the point. Changing my entire life, my entire BEING, was. The weight comes off as a side effect of that. Adopting a life-time view makes things easier, too, because you let go of that "diet," deadline-driven mentality.

Finally, I have to say ... the program I follow IS JC. I don't think you're lumping JC in with fad diets, but for those who might -- it's not. Yes, you buy their processed food, but only for a while, and it's only a tool. The point is to have flexibility and moderation and build a healthy lifestyle that will last you after you reach goal. I needed weekly one-on-one meetings with someone. If JC hadn't worked, I would have sought out a nutritionist. I've been on it for nearly 3 years, and I am only somewhat tired of the food. :) I go through rebellious periods, but there are ways to deal with that constructively. But, until you find the inner reserves, the inner reasons for doing this, you can wander from program to program for the rest of your life.

Just take solace in the fact that people who successfully lose weight try many times before they succeed. You just have to keep trying. Another book you might pick up is Thin for Life. I read this book before I started JC and it gave me the shot of optimism I needed to walk in the door. I do a lot of reading, studying, researching, etc. outside the JC materials (which are very good). JC (or WW, or whatever) are just doors. It's up to you to walk through the door and discover what's on the other side. All I can tell you is the mental shift from wanting to "stick to a diet" and "lose weight" to "building a healthy lifestyle" is crucial. You have to feel that in your gut. If you don't yet, just keep talking to yourself about it and pondering it. It took me about 6 months of thinking and agonizing before I started my program, but it was time well spent.

niceyone 06-27-2012 10:51 PM

k
 
this is what finally worked for me, try it if you think it could work for you!

first off im 5'2. i was 150lbs now im 120lbs. i used to go on starve diets, and liquid diets like the master cleanse. they work but once you stop you gain. i was also big on sugary snacks and would eat cake, donuts whatever. one day i noticed i wasnt interested in pizza or a sugar snack and i wondered why since i always was before, i took a look and seen that it was because my stomach was not hungry enough to break down and eat that stuff. so i thought ok if i never let myself get hungry ill have a better chance of not messing up my diet. i make a diet plan where i would eat 7 small meals round the clock. all meals under 200 calories. in the morning i will have 3 cups of coffee with a dash of milk (calcium & energy). 1 hour later ill have one pack of instant butter grits =100 cals some hours later 8 oz of V* juice =50 cals some hrs later yogurt =100 cals later 4 egg whites, seasoned to my liking, cooked with 1/2 red onion and 2 diced mushrooms =170 cals later single size popcorn =100 cals and so on until i had 7 meals all under 200 cals spaced around the clock. i also drink cups of water, diet soda and teas. i works out every day for at least 30 mins on my treadmill. at first i DID NOT weigh myself and i DID NOT look at myself in the mirror, i was fat but i told myself you are thin!!!! start thinking thin, after two months when my clothes fit loose i weight myself and was happy

LaurieDawn 06-27-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Highstrung (Post 620872)
Yes we use fat as a shield...we don't want to blame ourselves for our mistakes, or shortcomings, or poor choices, so we blame the fat. We don't want to change ourselves because we have fallen into the path of least resistence. We don't want to change because it will take X months to lose weight and that's just too long. We want it all we just don't want to work or wait for it.

Carol, I actually take exception to this. I don't think it's nearly as simplistic as what you've said here. There are lots of people who have health issues that make it very difficult for them to lose/maintain weight. Even without health issues at play, though, it's almost never as simple as choosing a salad over a Big Mac and deciding to take a walk after dinner instead of watching a T.V. show.

I've been on this site on and off for many years, and I have seen people struggle and work hard to lose weight. Most people here (and the advice I've seen on this thread to the OP) seem to believe that the answer lies in working hard and finding what works for you. I did it before. And I'm working hard to do it again, and do it long-term. But it is a long, difficult process to find what works, and to have the courage and stamina to keep trying until you find it. And it's so exciting that the OP is back here after so many "learning experiences" (NOT "failures") still working to find what will work long-term for her.

I understand the appeal of "tough love," as well as the appeal of believing the solution is easy. But it just isn't. At least not for most people. We can definitely do it, and so many people here are/have. But I fear that your sentiments belittle both the struggle and the accomplishment. It sounds like you have a great plan in mind, though. I hope to be able to join and support you in your journey as your hard work pays off.

JohnP 06-28-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LaurieDawn (Post 4386503)
Carol, I actually take exception to this.

I could be wrong but since Carol last posted on this site 8 years ago I don't think she is going to see your response.

LaurieDawn 06-28-2012 12:45 AM

:o:rofl::rofl:

**Sigh**

I'm guessing that from now on, I will be paying more attention to the dates that people post. Thanks for the heads-up.

love2hike 06-28-2012 12:52 AM

Oh how funny and delightful! I never notice dates either! I do wonder how Carol is doing and if she was able to find a way to make weight loss work for her. I hope so!

uselessknowledge 06-28-2012 02:42 AM

Too funny!

But LaurieDawn, it was an interesting discussion and I liked your response. I wouldn't have seen it otherwise, so thank you!

Taeyangtop 06-28-2012 12:48 PM

I think that I have had the opposite problem. I have never kept a food journal or was accountable to myself in anyway. Now I am keeping one, and I really have to hold myself accountable. I write every morning how much I weigh, what I ate throughout the day, and how many steps I took on my pedometer (10,000 is what I aim for).

But before this time, I have tried the same diet over and over and over again. It fails because I like to give myself "breaks." Such as, oh Sam, it's okay if you eat a lot this weekend, you can start your diet on Monday. And then by Wednesday, I will have fallen off the wagon, and I will tell myself that I will try again on monday. It's good to be able to write this down. I have never really thought about why I failed before.

Anyway, good luck with losing weight, I wish you the best!

my2cats 06-30-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotojunkie (Post 621253)
For years no one even mentioned my intelligence (I have a 211 IQ!)

I didn't realize how old this post was when I was starting to reply... but oh well I already googled it. ;)

This seems extremely unlikely since the highest recorded women's IQ was (apparently) 190 back in the 80's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant


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