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Old 03-22-2015, 05:30 PM   #361  
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Sorry i have not written personals. I am going to do that later today.

Coolmom, I hope you have an awesome trip. I know you will !!!

Thanks to everyone who wrote the kind messages about the death of my friend. I am better now with it all. I believe she is doing well where she is. Just was hard finding out the way I did so late at night. And my concern that I would have to tell her closest relative in the middle east. Because I was likely the only person who had been in very occassional and scant email contact with her. But it turns out there is someone in charge who told me to send her the woman's email address ( no one would have her phone number) My friend had no close family in this country. Even though she grew up here.

I continue to gain. eg: I gained 2 lbs yesterday while eating 1520 calories. My newest theory is that I no longer am suffering from many years of malabsorption ( sorry TMI). So what I eat is causing me to gain.

It looks like I will have to eat less than a thousand a day. I am starting today. Today will be 880 calories. ( tomorrow will be less because the frozen lemon protein stuff with coconut oil will be gone). Hopefully I can lose on that. I guess this will be the new normal until I get back down. I cannot tolerate this continual weight gain. All vegetables will now be eaten without anything on them. I used to use a tsp of oil, lemon, stevia, carrot puree and celtic salt as a dressing. Now there will be unadorned raw celery, cucumber and cooked cabbage ( because of thyroid I can only eat cabbage cooked).

I am sure I will be able to lose with this. It will be boring and annoying. And not the healthiest way to eat. But I cannot stand being around myself like this. The weight gain has to stop. Tomorrow I should be able to reduce intake to 840. I have to lose 6 lbs to get down to where I can fit back into my pants. It will be okay. I can do this. Even if it takes a month, I can do it. I honestly think it will take less than a month.

I hope everyone is having a great Sunday.

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Old 03-22-2015, 06:14 PM   #362  
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Up 2.8lbs to 178.6lbs today.

Breakfast was eggs, razor clams and sardines.

Lunch was fish and salad.

For exercise, I ran 8 miles before breakfast and did 60 minutes weight training before lunch.

Diana, the job offer is a bit confusing at the moment. I applied for a sideways move which I got. But then my current unit wants me to stay and says they will engineer a promotion for me if I do. So I am staying and hoping the promotion works out. Else, it will be a bummer.

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Flower, thanks and good luck with the eating plan. I, too, found I need to eat less than 1000 cals to lose. I have adjusted and don't feel too deprived...most of the time.
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Flower, I don't know how I missed it but I'm sorry about your friend.
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Flower - Sorry for the loss of your friend.
Ian - You deserve a big promotion, angel wings and a paid vacation
Diana - Is Belleruth helping everything?
CoolMom - We're the same height...less than 1000 really is hindend kicker. I've been reading everything. Want to hear the latest?
Oh brother.

Anyhoo, I read "b.harper's" new book. He has a new 3 week plan. 800 cal day for women and 1200 for men. 3 weeks only. It works for people who've been on a forever (5 months for me). Book claims it will not cause the metabolism to slow further because it's only 3 weeks. Here's the reader's digest version.

No carbs after lunch - zero
You can eat 2 meals aday or 3
3 protein servings (100 cal)
3 carb servings (100 cal)
2 fat servings (100 cal)
Grand Total = 800 (sooooo low in calories but 3 weeks only)
Have 1-2 espressos aday. That's my favorite part. Yay.

First thing in the morning. Go for a walk for at least 45 minutes. No high intensity exercise. A walk before breakfast. You can drink water, of course.

Before every meal drink 2 cups (16 oz water)
Have an espresso with your protein, carb, fat
You can't add any artificial sweetner or cream to it though. Plain jane.

Lunch - Protein, Carb, Fat
Supper - Protein and fat only. No carbs at supper.

You can eat all of the free vegetables you want in addition to your 800 calories. Plain unless you saved your fat but the free vegetables have to be eaten at meal times. No snacking between meals is preferred.
Eat one fruit aday and count it as a carb.

Allowed Fruits and the preferred ones

Free Vegetables
Bell Peppers
Bok Choy
Brussels sprouts
Green beans

White and sweet potatoes are a potatoes after breakfast.
16 oz water before each meal

Okey dokey. That's it. It's strict but only 3 weeks. I'm trying it to see if I can get off of this plateau.
For two days now, I've completed the 45 min walk before breakfast.

I'll let you know how it works but there it is for anyone else who wants to give it a whirl.

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E - Walked for 45 min with doggie
B - Tuna, avocado, 1/2 sweet potato, espresso
L - Eggs, mayo, green olives/dill pickles, blackberries, espresso
D - Homemade vegetable beef soup

Maybe a smidge over 800 but even if it's 900, that's really low for me.
Free vegetables bring the total up closer to 900 or more anyway.

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I want to scream because I really want to know what it's going to take to get below 140. It's not even an unrealistic goal and I've been at this 3 years. I knew it wasn't going to be easy but it shouldn't be this hard. If my anxiety disorder wasn't a factor to keep going (cardio keeps it at bay) I would honestly quit at this point.

Now I'm reading that Lipitor could possibly cause weight gain. Wonderful.

I quit the cortisol suppliments because I'm tired of all these pills right now so nothing to report. Maybe I'll try them again another time.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:19 PM   #368  
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Hi Everyone!

volet Hi and welcome to the check-in.

Have a wonderful trip!

Ian Good luck with the job situation. Either way, I hope it works for the best for you. Keep us updated.

Mossy I think Belleruth has been very helpful so far. I am listening to several of her CD's throughout the day/night. One in particular is the one on Grief. I recently remembered something about my Mom that made me feel really good. I have really been stressing about DH's upcoming tests. I can easily stress eat/binge eat. I am usually able to avoid it but the battle literally leaves me exhausted mentally and physically. I have been doing really well with this extra stress right now. I still have the daily battle, but it's not as tough. I'm thinking it's because of the Weight Loss CD as well as the other CD's that emphasize taking care of yourself and your body is your oldest ally, etc. Which CD do you have? I am looking at these CD's like they are my personal therapy sessions. I listen to each of them in their entirety every day. Then if I have extra time I will listen to the affirmations from each one again. The weight loss one is on in between everything else. I also listen to the Weigh Loss affirmations any time I am in the car. I'm not sure if it will help anything in the long run or if I will be totally brainwashed

This will be a quick post tonight. I was limited on my time today. DH stayed with me most of the day since it was raining and he couldn't go hunting. My workout was short, but at least I got it in.

Total Approx 1400 calories +

Breakfast (400 Calories + coffee)
spritz oil in pan
egg 70 cal
egg whites from carton 60 calories
Mediterranean Blend Veggies or Zucchini w/Tri Pepper Blend
1/8 cup feta cheese 40 calories
Rudi's Whole Wheat English muffin 130 calories
1 teaspoon pumpkin butter 25 calories
juice 75 calories
coffee w/sugar and cream

Lunch (450 calories)
chicken salad on wheat bread 450 calories

Dinner (550 calories)
chicken salad on wheat bread 450 calories
apple 100 calories


HHA's Fat Burning Cardio
Oxycise Commuter workout

Waving Hi all around! Enjoy your evening!

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Old 03-22-2015, 11:54 PM   #369  
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E: Nothing. It's Sunday.

B: 1 apple, 1 orange, and a slice of peanut butter toast.
L: 1/2 large potato, 1 cup broccoli, and a light garlic bechamel.
S: 1 chopped carrot, 1 tbsp peanut butter.
D: 2 cups cereal, 1.5 cups almond milk, 1/2 cup juice, 1 triple oreo (I didn't even know they made those!).

Diana: Even if the 160s were temporary for now, if they showed up on the scale that means your average weight is probably trending downward. At least that's what I tell myself when something similar happens.

volet: Congrats on your day!

Mossy: interesting plateau-buster diet. I haven't heard of it. Let us know how it works.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:45 AM   #370  
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for today ...
b: banana, barley coffe
s: slice of bread with vegetarian spread
l: veggie risotto
d: don't know yet - probbably 2 weetabix with ricemilk

exercise: bodypump

so far so good!
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Hi all. Time for personals. I went back to the 20th and started answering from then. So for some people I will be answering lots of things they said over the past few days. Thanks again everyone for your kind words of support about the passing of my friend.

Veil, I hope you had a great time at the cooking party. Sometimes having fun is more important than staying to the diet. Thanks for asking about my friend Laura. She was a really good herbalist. Great reputation. For decades she had an awesome herb shop. That's how I met her and how we became friends. You wrote: "I send out love & calm into the world. I know it will come back to me." Somehow it will. Even if it does not seem so now or in the near future. I just am sorry that things are so difficult at this time in your life.

momwithdogs, so glad you had good food at MOA.

MadeToThrive, I read a recipe where people put the coconut oil with an equal amt of butter into coffee in a blender. It is supposed to be amazing. I got unrefined virgin organic coconut oil. Re: not writing as much on the thread, all things are right at different times. Maybe the amount you can write here is just right, for now. HUGE congrats on the book. I did look it up. The cover of the book is great ! Loved reading what you wrote here. About how proud your grandsons are.

Coolmom, by the time you read this you may be back home. IDK if you will be on this forum while you are away. I am imagining you are having such a good time. And surprising your friends when they see your new awesome body. Although honestly, an awesome self is what is most important. And I have a feeling you have always had that.

Novangel, so glad to hear the good news about your father's successful surgery. I can only imagine how relieved you all are. Glad you are listening to your body and holding back on running. Thats the best way for things to heal. Sorry you are having such a hard time getting below 140.

Syckgirlsfv, thanks for the charts. You rode 26 miles? That puts you hero status as far as I am concerned Glad you rocked the Econ final. Not surprised though.

Kelijpa, if you still are camping I hope you have fun. And I hope it is not too cold.

Diana, Woohoo on getting into the 160s. Okay, well i just read on and it seems that was, for the moment fleeting. You will get back there. I know you will. You wrote in a later post " I can easily stress eat/binge eat. I am usually able to avoid it but the battle literally leaves me exhausted mentally and physically" I hear ya. It is SO exhausting.

PennyB, yes it was hard finding out like that. Thanks. Your diet is very healthy. lots of good choices. Or that's what I think when I read what you write.

Hi Violet, great to meet you. Glad you are here. Is Barley coffee any good? If so, could you please tell me the brand name of it?

Ian, I hope you get that promition. I just know you deserve it.

Mossy, thanks for writing out the eating plan. Why the 2 cups of water before each meal? I thought that waters down digestive enzymes that the body produces. But hey, I do not know much about this stuff. Just curious what his reasoning is. Because I am willing to try that. Nice that you got in that 45 minute walk. AND nice that you have a dog. <3 Sending lots of good energy that the new plateau busting diet works great for you

Fluffy, i hope your weekend was good. And that he who shall not be named, aka the food monster was kept at a distance. <3

If someone posted and I did not see it, I am sorry. Hi to everyone who I did not mention. s wildly and enthusiasticlly

L: Chicken sausage. Salad with lettuce cucumber celery and cooked cabbage with dressing made of an ounce of carrot puree and lemon juice. 300 calories
D: cod fish and salad, same as above 260 calories
S: Lemon protein coconut oil frozen thingy 250 ( I made it the day before. But no more)
S: Cocoa /low acid decaf low taste coffee with a small amount of unsweetened cashew milk. 150

Today I was mindful of my sodium intake. I ate around 960 calories. I know that I will not lose much this way. But at least I will not gain. tomorrow I will have less calories because I decided to stop the coconut oil. If I eat 200 calories I want to enjoy them. Maybe if I lose the weight and stabalize it, then I will reconsider.

I have to get on that jogging trampoline for at least a little while.

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Good Morning, Everyone!

Last night I added on:
Tamilee Webb's Total Body Stretch (standing)
A Meditation for Relaxation & Wellness

No Oxycise, yet. I have to get a move on it this morning. I have to get to the shop early since DH has to take a customer to the airport.

Calories for yesterday: 1400 +
Weigh In: 170.4
Up: .4

Have a great start to your week!
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thanks, everybody
flower123: i use an european brand, so i guess you don't have this particular kind in the states. however, i've looked up the listed ingredients and it's just dissolvable barley extract (i use instant barley coffe) and it's sugar free. to me it tastes almost as coffee, plus it has a lot of vitamines, that coffee doesn't.
some barley coffees have driend fruit in it, but to me it just tasted weird, so i wouldn't recommend that. the basic dried barley coffee is fine too, but you have to cook it and this takes about 15-20 minutes. the basic barley coffee tastes a lot like the instant sugar free version that i drink.
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In The Skinny Rules, celebrity trainer and coach of NBC’s The Biggest Loser Bob Harper delivers the ultimate strategy for healthy, long-term weight loss and “thin maintenance.” But what if you have a big event looming—a reunion, wedding, beach vacation, or other special occasion—and need a fast-acting plan to meet your short-term goals?

Jumpstart to Skinny features thirteen short-term Rules (no one gets thin on mere suggestions) that will supercharge your weight loss. Taking any confusion or decision making out of the equation, Harper also provides a day-by-day plan for success, including his body-toning “Jumpstart Moves” and deliciously slimming recipes specially designed for your get-skinny needs.

Jumpstart to Skinny lets you in on the secrets Bob shares with his red-carpet celebrity clients. This is not a marathon diet; it’s a quick sprint to the finish line. And the victory lap comes when you slip into that sexy dress or swimsuit and feel fantastic. Get started today!


Your Jumpstart Rules: Thirteen must-follow principles to get you ready for your own “big reveal,” including Rule #1, a precise breakdown of the proper protein/carbohydrate/fat proportions for every meal, and Rule #3, which explains why you need to just say no to complex carbs after breakfast during this three-week plan. These are the Rules that Bob Harper and his celebrity clients use to get ready for their big events—and now you’re in on the secrets, too.[

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Rule 1

Take Control with Proper Proportions—*40/40/20

It’s one thing to hand someone a tough battle plan and tell her to “just get going.”

It’s another to give her the tools to execute said plan and win the battle.

I want you to win.

That’s what this rule is about.

The 40/40/20 plan is the nutritional architecture of your Jumpstart eating regimen. And it is easy, especially since I’ve done all the work for you in my menus and recipes!

The 40/40/20 plan is my way of making sure you get the right amount of the three essential macronutrients in your diet: protein, carbohydrates, and fat. Without them, you’d be in trouble. Without them in the right amounts, you’ll stay fat, and you’ll never get into that dress, tux, Speedo, or bikini. (Of course, you also need fiber, which is why I give you license to eat unlimited quantities of Jumpstart veggies.)

I’ve tinkered with this formula to get it right: I’ve tried different percentages, added, subtracted, split things up one week and then tried something new the next. In other words, I have been your guinea pig, and I know this is the formula that will work. Don’t make my effort for nothing—*use what I’ve learned!

But I’ll back up a step and give you a macronutrient primer:

Protein is a dieter’s best friend. Not only does it help maintain muscle while you are losing fat, it can also prevent you from feeling hungry. Why? Because protein helps control blood sugar and insulin—*two elements that, out of balance, can make you feel famished and craving all the wrong things. During your Jumpstart program, 40 percent of your calories will come from protein.

Carbohydrates—*nature’s sugars—*are the body’s fuel. We need them to keep our energy levels up, to keep our thinking sharp, and to replenish starved muscles. But carbohydrates come in two different forms: simple and complex. I’m oversimplifying, but think of it this way: simple carbohydrates are found in fruits and vegetables (which, again, also give us needed fiber) and are, generally, “good.” Complex carbohydrates are what we find in processed starchy food—*breads, baked goods, pastas, crackers, and potatoes. It’s not that complex carbohydrates are evil or that you can never have them again (you can!), but most people rely too heavily on carbohydrates of the complex variety, and don’t get enough simple ones! When we overload on the complex carbs, we wreak havoc on our systems.

If we can control our carb intake—*if we use them rather than abuse them—*we can push our body during exercise, and the carbs we have eaten will replenish our starved muscles. As with protein, you’re going to be eating 40 percent mostly simple carbohydrates (see Rule 3 about when you can have some complex ones) for the next three weeks.

Net Carbs

In addition to simple carbs and complex carbs, there’s one more vocabulary word I need to explain here, folks: net carbs. Net carbs refers to the amount of carbohydrates in the food after you have considered the way in which the fiber in that food offsets the carb number. A food like, say, blueberries, has 21 grams of carbs per cup, but 4 grams of fiber. So, to calculate the net carbs for a cup of blueberries, you subtract the grams of fiber from the carbs: that’s 17 net carbs! You’ll see in Part IV that I list the nutritional value of each recipe. When I list the carbs per serving, I’m talking about net carbs.

We also need fats—*whether in the form of oils or solids. Fats help maintain the essential barriers around our cells, help keep our skin and various other tissues flexible, and provide a dense source of fuel—*120 calories for every tablespoon! Fats are not “bad”—*we just need to use the right ones the right way. If we do, we can reduce feelings of hunger and stay on the path to successful weight loss and an awesome big reveal body. Your Jumpstart diet will allow 20 percent fats.

In the daily menus in Part II (“The Jumpstart Day-*by-*Day Regimen”), I’ve already calculated your macronutrient diet as close to 40 percent protein, 40 percent carbs, and 20 percent fat as possible for each meal. (Remember that because the fiber in fruits and veggies brings their net carb number down, you may sometimes be getting far fewer than 40 percent carbs from my recipes. But I’m assuming you’ll be snacking on fruits and veggies all day long, so you’ll get your needed carbs over the course of the day.) Meaning: these proportions are already basically figured into each meal. All you have to do is fix the meal and eat it. No excuses.

So, this is easy math, right? Made easier because I’ve done the menu planning for you. These proportions—*40/40/20—*are the same ones I use when I’m getting ready for a cover shoot. Thwse are the proportions my celebrity clients use to get red-*carpet ready. And they’re the proportions you’re going to use for your own cover shoot. You’ll have an amazing, for-*the-*ages wedding album, a jealousy-*inducing reunion photo, a bathing-*beauty shot that your spouse just can’t stop looking at!

Last time I checked, 40 plus 40 plus 20 equals 100. And 100 percent of anything is all there is, right? But wait! There’s some good news here: I’m going to give you some free calories above and beyond your 40/40/20 allotment. See page 37 for a list of Bob-*approved Jumpstart veggies. You’ll see in Part II that you’ll have many of these vegetables daily, but feel free to add as many you want—*more than I have called for!—*to your meals. In fact, you’d be crazy not to. These are freebie calories—*no need to think about your 40/40/20 proportion when you are eating them.

In addition to possibly satisfying your urge to just munch on something, these veggies will ensure you are getting lots of fiber. And more of the right kind of fiber means greater—*and healthier—*weight loss.

Rule 2

Cut back on calories. Then cut back again.

Brace yourself for the truth: for this diet to work on time (three weeks!), you should eat 800 calories a day if you’re female and 1,200 calories a day if you’re male.

Why did I say brace yourself? Most diet experts and motivators prefer to keep people in the dark about calorie restriction, but they all know the truth. They dress it up in pretty prose but never tell you the truth about the number of calories it takes (or doesn’t take) to meet your goals. I think you deserve my honesty. You’re an adult: you can take the truth in plain terms.

Are you miffed at me for being so hard on you? That’s OK. I can take it. Remember: I spend most of my time convincing ravenously hungry obese people not to eat! And, believe me, they’ve said some choice things to me about that.

But here’s what they usually say about it later: thanks, Bob, I needed that!

They, like you, get it: special circumstances call for aggressive measures. Jumpstart to Skinny is not a permanent regimen. But it is safe, and it will get you into that dress, Speedo, or bikini.

And that, if I remember right, is what this is all about for you. Keep your eyes on the prize.

Now, where do those numbers—*800 for women, 1,200 for men—*come from? In short, they come from years of experience with clients in your shoes. They come from years of my trying to be accommodating, sensitive, and empathetic when folks said things like, “Can’t you just give me a little more food?” or “Bob, can’t you let me have a tablespoon of peanut butter or something before bed? After all, protein is good for weight loss. Right, Bob?”

Yes, I tried to be compassionate, I tried to be Mr. Sympathy—*and my clients didn’t meet their weight-*loss goals.

There is just no way around it. You’ve got to ratchet your intake way down if you want a skinnier you.

All that said, it’s not just calories in, calories out that makes for weight loss. It’s also what’s in those calories that counts. That’s why—*as you’ll see—*I’m so specific about what you should eat and when you should eat it. The 800/1,200 model works. Trust my process, OK?

Or you could trust the science:

What you’ll be embarking on for the next three weeks is known as a very low-*calorie diet, or VLCD in nutritionist terms. One conventional whack against very low-*calorie diets concerns weight regain—*what happens when you go off the aggressive regimen. A nation of diet relapsers tells us there’s no doubt that regain happens. We are not entirely sure why. But we do now know that regain is not an inevitable outcome of VLCDs.

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